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Hugo Chavez is dead (1 Viewer)

Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)

But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.

 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Ok, Tim. I sure am glad he sent some Katrina money. Good job, Hugo.
 
Wow, what a relief.

Not since Fidel Castro or Daniel Ortega or maybe Manuel Noriega has there been such a horrible Latin/South American boogeyman whose policies and actions caused such terror and detriment to the American way of life.

Now that he is gone, perhaps our long national nightmare will be over.

 
Wow, what a relief.Not since Fidel Castro or Daniel Ortega or maybe Manuel Noriega has there been such a horrible Latin/South American boogeyman whose policies and actions caused such terror and detriment to the American way of life.Now that he is gone, perhaps our long national nightmare will be over.
It will be nice to finally be able to go to bed without worrying about Venezuela.
 
Wow, what a relief.Not since Fidel Castro or Daniel Ortega or maybe Manuel Noriega has there been such a horrible Latin/South American boogeyman whose policies and actions caused such terror and detriment to the American way of life.Now that he is gone, perhaps our long national nightmare will be over.
I have friends that live in Venezuela. My guess is that your flippant viewpoint would be a lot different if you actually lives there or knew people that live there.
 
Chavez falls in the category of evil leaders like Mugabe, who have done more to harm their country & people than help it. The world is better off with him in the hot place where he now rests for eternity.

 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Are you being serious?
Sure. That money and aid helped out. People's lives were affected in a positive way as a direct result. Very few people are completely evil. I think that when somebody does something positive it deserves to be acknowledged. Does it make Chavez a good man? Of course not. Does it negate all the terrible stuff he's done? Absolutely not. But it still deserves to be acknowledged.
 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Cliff notes on what made him a bad guy?
 
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Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Are you being serious?
Sure. That money and aid helped out. People's lives were affected in a positive way as a direct result. Very few people are completely evil. I think that when somebody does something positive it deserves to be acknowledged. Does it make Chavez a good man? Of course not. Does it negate all the terrible stuff he's done? Absolutely not. But it still deserves to be acknowledged.
I'm sure he had no ulterior motive at all.
 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Cliff notes on what made him a bad guy?
First off, IMO anyone who holds political power in the form of a dictatorship, shuts off free speech, and holds opponents as political prisoners is generally a bad guy. More specifically in Chavez' case, he has given aid, money, and refuge to terrorist organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and al Qaida. These are not nice people.
 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Are you being serious?
Sure. That money and aid helped out. People's lives were affected in a positive way as a direct result. Very few people are completely evil. I think that when somebody does something positive it deserves to be acknowledged. Does it make Chavez a good man? Of course not. Does it negate all the terrible stuff he's done? Absolutely not. But it still deserves to be acknowledged.
I'm sure he had no ulterior motive at all.
I'm sure he did, but what of it?
 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Are you being serious?
Sure. That money and aid helped out. People's lives were affected in a positive way as a direct result. Very few people are completely evil. I think that when somebody does something positive it deserves to be acknowledged. Does it make Chavez a good man? Of course not. Does it negate all the terrible stuff he's done? Absolutely not. But it still deserves to be acknowledged.
I'm sure he had no ulterior motive at all.
Governments operate on ulterior motives. The U.S. no less than Venezuela.
 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Before I even opened this thread I knew what your response would be. I think sometimes you take this pollyanna, both-sides-of-the-fence, shtick just to far. Are you ever absolute in any opinions you form? Chavez was a minor player, a weaker Manuel Noriega if you will; your praise isn't what upsets me, it is more your need to always try to counter your own points. Chavez was a doosh that did very little for his people except to drive away foreign dollars. Hugo could not of been that good if he still had to rig his elections. The fact that he made some symbolic donation is along the lines of Yassar Arafat (who died of AIDS :unsure: ) donating blood to the Red Crescent after 9/11. These guys are more harmful to the people they lead than any "war" they wage against the U.S.; your faint praise of him is pitiful.
 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)

But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Before I even opened this thread I knew what your response would be. I think sometimes you take this pollyanna, both-sides-of-the-fence, shtick just to far. Are you ever absolute in any opinions you form? Chavez was a minor player, a weaker Manuel Noriega if you will; your praise isn't what upsets me, it is more your need to always try to counter your own points. Chavez was a doosh that did very little for his people except to drive away foreign dollars. Hugo could not of been that good if he still had to rig his elections. The fact that he made some symbolic donation is along the lines of Yassar Arafat (who died of AIDS :unsure: ) donating blood to the Red Crescent after 9/11. These guys are more harmful to the people they lead than any "war" they wage against the U.S.; your faint praise of him is pitiful.
But he donated some money
 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Are you being serious?
Sure. That money and aid helped out. People's lives were affected in a positive way as a direct result. Very few people are completely evil. I think that when somebody does something positive it deserves to be acknowledged. Does it make Chavez a good man? Of course not. Does it negate all the terrible stuff he's done? Absolutely not. But it still deserves to be acknowledged.
I'm sure he had no ulterior motive at all.
I'm sure he did, but what of it?
Come on man. With the condition Venezuela is in and the poverty his own people live in, it's pretty clear that it was nothing more than a publicity stunt to help bolster worldwide public opinion of him. If anything, it makes him MORE evil that he took money that would have done more good in his own country and rightfully belonged to his own people instead of using it as a PR stunt.Hitler made the Winterhilfswerk a priority to help the poor and less fortunate. Guess we should give him some credit too.
 
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Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)

But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Are you being serious?
Sure. That money and aid helped out. People's lives were affected in a positive way as a direct result. Very few people are completely evil. I think that when somebody does something positive it deserves to be acknowledged. Does it make Chavez a good man? Of course not. Does it negate all the terrible stuff he's done? Absolutely not. But it still deserves to be acknowledged.
Thanks for clearing this up. You would be the guy who interrupts someone speech on the evils of Hitler, to remind everyone he was kind to stray animals.
 
Not a great guy necessarily, but not sure he entirely deserves the terrible reputation he has in America. Just browsing on Wikipedia, it seems he was fairly successful in addressing the countries' issues with poverty, malnutrition, illiteracy, while growing the economy.

 
Generally a very bad guy, and certainly no friend to the United States (at least not to our governments.)

But he does deserve credit for sending money and aid during Katrina.
Are you being serious?
Sure. That money and aid helped out. People's lives were affected in a positive way as a direct result. Very few people are completely evil. I think that when somebody does something positive it deserves to be acknowledged. Does it make Chavez a good man? Of course not. Does it negate all the terrible stuff he's done? Absolutely not. But it still deserves to be acknowledged.
Thanks for clearing this up. You would be the guy who interrupts someone speech on the evils of Hitler, to remind everyone he was kind to stray animals.
Charles Manson once let an old lady at the Supermarket move in front of him in line. Let's not forget that.

 

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