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Hulk Hogan transcripts leaked - racismamania running wild brother (1 Viewer)

Rayderr said:
Quez said:
What are the financial & licensing issues with this? Doesn't WWE own rights to everything Hulk Hogan? Do they still own it, but just won't sell any HH merchandise? Or is this just severing his limited appearance contracts?
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Actually, Marvel owns it. Both WWF and WCW had to negotiate with Marvel for Hogan to call himself Hulk.
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I think Terry Bollea (Hulk Hogan) actually owns the rights now. Marvel used to own it but there was a lawsuit when the rights contract expired and now he owns it.

 
Wwe should have worked with hogan here. Lots of "what about this" stuff will now come to light.

Like, what about this about the warrior who they tied to Connor the crusher with his essays against gays?

 
"Good said:
Capella said:
Abraham said:
Denton has made it clear that he doesn't have 100 million. Every trick in the book is worth doing to try to save his business.
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They aren't losing that suit. He's made himself and his sex life a public display in the past.
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So does one have Cart Blanche to steal and disseminate private images/videos of, say, an adult film star?
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Did gawker do that? I was under the impression that they did not.

 
Smack Tripper said:
Wwe should have worked with hogan here. Lots of "what about this" stuff will now come to light.

Like, what about this about the warrior who they tied to Connor the crusher with his essays against gays?
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Stone Cold beat the crap out of his wife a few times.

 
Think about the downward spiral that is The Hulkster's life the past decade:

- Bitter divorce

- Ex walks away with half his fortune

- Ex starts banging a teenage version of you

- Your son essentially killed a kid

- Your son serves prison time

- An embbarrassing sex tape leaks where you're banging your friend's wife while aswering calls from your daughter.

- Now an embarrassing tape leaks where you go so far past the point of acceptable that an apology won't suffice.

- You're now a social pariah

- The industry you were a legend in has begun scrubbing it's connections to you.

- And you've likely lost your ability to earn any money (I can't see promoter's putting him on a card, and no company will touch him as a product endorser.)

And the Hulkster is only 61 years old. He has some life to live on outcast island.

 
shadyridr said:
John Bender said:
cstu said:
Rayderr said:
Not all that surprisng really, WWF back in the 80's really was racism central. Look at the characters the black wrestlers played. Papa Shango - a Voodoo Doctor, Kamala - Big stupid black guy from africa controlled by a white guy under a mask, Bad News Brown - Street thug from Harlem, Virgil - a servant to a rich white guy, Slick - the inner city street hustler and so on.
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I think every character was a stereotype, regardless of race - Rowdy Roddy Piper, Sargent Slaughter, etc.
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Yokozuna, Tito Santana
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Ricky the dragon steamboat
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Certainly not The Iron Sheik or Nikolai Volkoff

 
Poor dumb ******* probably could've killed someone and bounced back quicker, easier.

Maybe even smoked crack and become Mayor somewhere...but now, he's persona non grata.

I find it interesting how a few words can do that.

 
Gary Coal Man said:
Think about the downward spiral that is The Hulkster's life the past decade:

- Bitter divorce

- Ex walks away with half his fortune

- Ex starts banging a teenage version of you

- Your son essentially killed a kid

- Your son serves prison time

- An embbarrassing sex tape leaks where you're banging your friend's wife while aswering calls from your daughter.

- Now an embarrassing tape leaks where you go so far past the point of acceptable that an apology won't suffice.

- You're now a social pariah

- The industry you were a legend in has begun scrubbing it's connections to you.

- And you've likely lost your ability to earn any money (I can't see promoter's putting him on a card, and no company will touch him as a product endorser.)

And the Hulkster is only 61 years old. He has some life to live on outcast island.
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He'd still pack arenas in the south.

 
tdoss said:
Poor dumb ******* probably could've killed someone and bounced back quicker, easier.

Maybe even smoked crack and become Mayor somewhere...but now, he's persona non grata.

I find it interesting how a few words can do that.
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Sigh.

The problem with Hogan, as with a guy like Donald Sterling, is not the 30 second or 5 minute mistake of saying things they shouldn't say. Everyone has done that and people will usually forgive it. It's what the expression of those sentiments reveals about the person's character.

Plenty of people say mean or stupid things. Plenty of people make mistakes in judgment due to temptation or anger or whatever. But if you say the things that Hogan and Sterling said you didn't just make a mistake out of anger or intoxication (like say Riley Cooper arguably did). You calmly revealed that you're a racist POS. Nobody else would say stuff like what those guys said.

Think about it- do you know anyone you could envision saying stuff like that? I don't, and the few people who might get within a hundred foot pole of expressing that sort of sentiment are the worst people I know.

 
I'm going to offer a slightly different opinion here: His actions in the past were deplorable, and should not be condoned in any way. That being said, I've noticed that if someone is accused of something in popular culture, they're ostracized with no chance to redeem themselves. Let's be honest here, there are things in our past which we'd like to have remain buried, and they differ for everyone. Michael Richards hasn't been seen in any halfway decent role since his debacle, and that's coming up on a decade in the past, I think. Again, there are no excuses for words/actions like this, and he should suffer some type of punishment/ discipline as a result, but if he (or anyone else, for that matter) is genuinely contrite about the mistakes they've made, they deserve forgiveness.

Now, that doesn't mean he should be immediately welcomed back with open arms, but after a cooling off period, if they have made a legitimate change to their behavior, they should be allowed to interact with polite society again. If convicted felons can be rehabilitated, then people can change their behavior and once again be productive members of society.

 
I think the comments were more disparaging to small black people. He wouldn't of minded if some big, rugged black guy was dating her. Just not a skinny, small one.

 
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Eminence said:
I'm certain none of us have ever said the 'n word' before.
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Again, it's not just about using the N word. Riley Cooper did that and he was welcomed back by the Eagles (and their black players) after some cursory racial sensitivity training and a fine. It's about doing it in a calm, casual conversation while also sharing thoughts that obviously show you think one race is inferior to other races. It's not a "mistake," it's a horrible character flaw.

 
Virgil -- one of the most iconic black wrestlers ever -- says the Hulk Hogan he considered a mentor and a friend never showed any signs of racism in all the years he's known him.

Virgil tells TMZ Sports he was saddened Friday morning when he read about Hogan's N-word rant on a sex tape, and says he doesn't condone racism or racist behavior one bit.

But Virgil tells us, "You can only judge a person based on past experience. Hulk Hogan has never given me a reason to believe he is a racist."

Hogan has since apologized for the comments he made on the sex tape -- which was recorded 8 years ago.

 
So the guy that helped build the WWF into a financial monster is erased from the organizations history as though he never existed. That may be a slight overreaction by the organization that has had known wife beaters and drug abusers within its ranks, all of whom are still ok in their book.

 
Cold Dead Hands said:
So the guy that helped build the WWF into a financial monster is erased from the organizations history as though he never existed. That may be a slight overreaction by the organization that has had known wife beaters and drug abusers within its ranks, all of whom are still ok in their book.
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Welcome to 2015.

 
Cold Dead Hands said:
So the guy that helped build the WWF into a financial monster is erased from the organizations history as though he never existed. That may be a slight overreaction by the organization that has had known wife beaters and drug abusers within its ranks, all of whom are still ok in their book.
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Of course it is. A mild suspension and large fine would have been sufficient punishment. But you've got to deal with the group of lunatics that would go all fire and brimstone until he was publicly executed.

 
Cold Dead Hands said:
So the guy that helped build the WWF into a financial monster is erased from the organizations history as though he never existed. That may be a slight overreaction by the organization that has had known wife beaters and drug abusers within its ranks, all of whom are still ok in their book.
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I'm guessing the WWE wanted to get Hulk off their website and payroll right now so that people can't say he represents the company today. Hogan is way too big a part of their video library and history for him to be erased from it.

 
The craziest thing about this revolves around how Gawker got the tapes. The destruction of Hulk Hogan wasn't even intended.

Bubba th Love Sponge was the target. A rival radio host conspired with a former member of Bubbas morning show (Spice Boy) to sell/leak the tape. They all worked for Cox Media at the time. It actually worked too. The radio station fired Bubba and replaced him with Cowhead. However, in the depositions it came out that the rival hosts (Cowhead) lawyer was the one who was shopping the tape. So all this to take down Bubba has ended up taking down Hogan.

 
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I"m not so sure that at it's base....BASE.......Hogan's comments aren't something that most people feel (aside from the rampant use of N-Word). If given a choice between an athlete or someone who gets their money from their dad....who wouldn't want their kid to marry the athlete?

ETA: Also...isn't Hogan (more or less) just repeating what Chris Rock said 15 years ago about the stratification of classes within the African American community and how the upper classes resent the lower class making a spectacle of themselves and ruining if for the upper class?

ETA: I'm not changing my avatar either.

 
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Thunderlips said:
I"m not so sure that at it's base....BASE.......Hogan's comments aren't something that most people feel (aside from the rampant use of N-Word). If given a choice between an athlete or someone who gets their money from their dad....who wouldn't want their kid to marry the athlete?

ETA: Also...isn't Hogan (more or less) just repeating what Chris Rock said 15 years ago about the stratification of classes within the African American community and how the upper classes resent the lower class making a spectacle of themselves and ruining if for the upper class?

ETA: I'm not changing my avatar either.
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Keep the avatar, but change your name to ######lips.

 
Doug B said:
I know the "I have black friends" doesn't convince anyone ... but I had thought that Hulk Hogan was close to both Mr. T and the Junkyard Dog in real life.
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I have never understood why people think that it is impossible for an individual to say bad things about many people of a race and still have friendships or relationships with members of that same race.

There are millions of blacks who will say derogatory things about whites and still have some white friends. There are millions of whites who think there is a ghetto black population that they want nothing to do with and can't stand and educated middle class America blacks that they get along with just fine.

 
Quez said:
Virgil -- one of the most iconic black wrestlers ever -- says the Hulk Hogan he considered a mentor and a friend never showed any signs of racism in all the years he's known him.

Virgil tells TMZ Sports he was saddened Friday morning when he read about Hogan's N-word rant on a sex tape, and says he doesn't condone racism or racist behavior one bit.

But Virgil tells us, "You can only judge a person based on past experience. Hulk Hogan has never given me a reason to believe he is a racist."

Hogan has since apologized for the comments he made on the sex tape -- which was recorded 8 years ago.
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Virgil still a servant to a rich white man I see.

 
Rayderr said:
Quez said:
Virgil -- one of the most iconic black wrestlers ever -- says the Hulk Hogan he considered a mentor and a friend never showed any signs of racism in all the years he's known him.

Virgil tells TMZ Sports he was saddened Friday morning when he read about Hogan's N-word rant on a sex tape, and says he doesn't condone racism or racist behavior one bit.

But Virgil tells us, "You can only judge a person based on past experience. Hulk Hogan has never given me a reason to believe he is a racist."

Hogan has since apologized for the comments he made on the sex tape -- which was recorded 8 years ago.
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Virgil still a servant to a rich white man I see.
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You can rent Virgil out to appear at your white guy bachelor party...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZq1i7BZL4

 
Gary Coal Man said:
Rayderr said:
Quez said:
Virgil -- one of the most iconic black wrestlers ever -- says the Hulk Hogan he considered a mentor and a friend never showed any signs of racism in all the years he's known him.

Virgil tells TMZ Sports he was saddened Friday morning when he read about Hogan's N-word rant on a sex tape, and says he doesn't condone racism or racist behavior one bit.

But Virgil tells us, "You can only judge a person based on past experience. Hulk Hogan has never given me a reason to believe he is a racist."

Hogan has since apologized for the comments he made on the sex tape -- which was recorded 8 years ago.
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Virgil still a servant to a rich white man I see.
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You can rent Virgil out to appear at your white guy bachelor party...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZq1i7BZL4
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:lmao: at one of the videos to the side. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyXn24iAVYY

 
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