that seems like a good deal and would be a fairly fun car to driveLooking at these now as a "sensible" second car, relegating the wrangler to nice weather / weekend driving.
Pretty well set on the 4.6L 8cyl. Test drove one Sunday and was very impressed. Very good ride and the thing was FAST. Nearly 400HP and 0-60 in 5.5sec is the claimed time and I believe it.
Crossed over 100mph on the on-ramp before I was fully merged onto the freeway. Smooth even at that speed. Interior is pretty well loaded at the price point (power everything, heated/cooled seats, smart cruise control (sensors keep distance), rain sensing wipers,
I'm not big on tying up a ton of cash in a depreciating asset, but I've got a dealership with a formal offer of a 2010 in cherry condition with 55k miles for under $16k ($16,499 off the lot). Car was ~$40k new and KBB is $21ish, as is NADA.
There are a few issues to watch for (2009 rear suspension was a bit rough), Early 2012 V8s "drink" oil, Pre 2013 Nav systems can crap out on occasion, etc.... but overall owners seem to be very happy with them.
I would too... but only if I was a communist.next time that I am in the car market, I am going to give them a hard look.
2013 is available in AWD, yep. But most models are RWD.The sedan has AWD as an option.these are AWD ?
The do have the Azera between the Sonata and Genesis but they do a poor job advertising it. It's a really nice car.It's a pretty big jump from a Sonata to a Genesis or Equus, right? Why doesn't Hyundai make a luxury division like Acura, Audi and Lexus?
Maybe the Koreans are more egalitarianian. The Equus is the car that wealthy SKs have drivers for.It's a pretty big jump from a Sonata to a Genesis or Equus, right? Why doesn't Hyundai make a luxury division like Acura, Audi and Lexus?
You're right, that is nice.The do have the Azera between the Sonata and Genesis but they do a poor job advertising it. It's a really nice car.It's a pretty big jump from a Sonata to a Genesis or Equus, right? Why doesn't Hyundai make a luxury division like Acura, Audi and Lexus?
Sonata has been creeping upmarket as well... it's in the 20's and low 30's range. Genesis is 40's and low 50s range.It's a pretty big jump from a Sonata to a Genesis or Equus, right? Why doesn't Hyundai make a luxury division like Acura, Audi and Lexus?
Is that like how the Altima got nicer and eventually replaced the Maxima from Nissan?Sonata has been creeping upmarket as well... it's in the 20's and low 30's range. Genesis is 40's and low 50s range.It's a pretty big jump from a Sonata to a Genesis or Equus, right? Why doesn't Hyundai make a luxury division like Acura, Audi and Lexus?
Looking at a veracruz this weekend. They're no longer in production but have good reviews and are affordable. We need a midsize suv that's dependable.I bought a 2013 Sante Fe. Hyundai is really impressing me. Better at more things than the other mid-class car companies right now.
Yeah their leases are terrible given the hard depreciation hits they're still seeing. Lexus is killing the lease game right now in comparison.The lease also wasn't very attractive, but we looked at it right after it was redesigned.
The Maxima is getting a long overdue revamp for 2016.Is that like how the Altima got nicer and eventually replaced the Maxima from Nissan?Sonata has been creeping upmarket as well... it's in the 20's and low 30's range. Genesis is 40's and low 50s range.It's a pretty big jump from a Sonata to a Genesis or Equus, right? Why doesn't Hyundai make a luxury division like Acura, Audi and Lexus?
Bought a 2010 Veracruz last March for 15k. Love it. Comfortable ride with lots of room. Not the most agile but it is a land cruiserLooking at a veracruz this weekend. They're no longer in production but have good reviews and are affordable. We need a midsize suv that's dependable.I bought a 2013 Sante Fe. Hyundai is really impressing me. Better at more things than the other mid-class car companies right now.
Wow! They disappeared a couple years ago, thought they stopped the model.The Maxima is getting a long overdue revamp for 2016.Is that like how the Altima got nicer and eventually replaced the Maxima from Nissan?Sonata has been creeping upmarket as well... it's in the 20's and low 30's range. Genesis is 40's and low 50s range.It's a pretty big jump from a Sonata to a Genesis or Equus, right? Why doesn't Hyundai make a luxury division like Acura, Audi and Lexus?
That's great to hear. Seems like the best deal out there.Bought a 2010 Veracruz last March for 15k. Love it. Comfortable ride with lots of room. Not the most agile but it is a land cruiserLooking at a veracruz this weekend. They're no longer in production but have good reviews and are affordable. We need a midsize suv that's dependable.I bought a 2013 Sante Fe. Hyundai is really impressing me. Better at more things than the other mid-class car companies right now.
Take a test drive. Don't bring your checkbook though. You'll prob leave with a car if it's a step up from the Genesis.Equus is pretty tempting.
Hyundai has been overcoming a lowly reputation and changing minds by delivering value and quality. They seem to do a lot of things differently in order to change those minds. I think offering the Genesis in the Hyundai brand is about that same thing- changing peoples minds about Hyundai. I think it is working.It's a pretty big jump from a Sonata to a Genesis or Equus, right? Why doesn't Hyundai make a luxury division like Acura, Audi and Lexus?
Getting a 2009 Veracruz this week.Bought a 2010 Veracruz last March for 15k. Love it. Comfortable ride with lots of room. Not the most agile but it is a land cruiserLooking at a veracruz this weekend. They're no longer in production but have good reviews and are affordable. We need a midsize suv that's dependable.I bought a 2013 Sante Fe. Hyundai is really impressing me. Better at more things than the other mid-class car companies right now.
There's not a month that goes by that I don't mention to the GF how much I love the Genesis while driving around. Such a fun car to drive. Still get compliments every time someone gets in it.Where do we stand on these now, and had anyone picked up the Equus?
Do the miles between 10k and 50k devalue a car that much? I just bought a 2013 Infinity G37x with 32k miles and a 6 year bumper to bumper warranty for $27.5k out the door. Based on the above, I think I got a pretty good deal unless the 22k miles betwen our cars makes a huge difference.Shopped for a while and pulled the trigger on a 2014 Genesis 5.0L r-spec with 9,500 miles on it. Out the door for $30k was a great deal imo and it is truly a blast to drive. I don't like spending that much for a car but I don't think this deal will be there the next time I'm shopping. It does guzzle gas but I'm very happy with the purchase so far. Thanks for the heads up, [icon]!
I don't know if the infinity is apples to apples with the Genesis r-spec. A very quick Google implies the Genesis wins in engine, ride, sound system, reliability, and handling. The r-spec is around $50k new and suppoesd to be a good value at that price for its class.Do the miles between 10k and 50k devalue a car that much? I just bought a 2013 Infinity G37x with 32k miles and a 6 year bumper to bumper warranty for $27.5k out the door. Based on the above, I think I got a pretty good deal unless the 22k miles betwen our cars makes a huge difference.
I've been out of the car game for a while, so are Hyundai's now on par with Toyota, Nissan, Honda?I don't know if the infinity is apples to apples with the Genesis r-spec. A very quick Google implies the Genesis wins in engine, ride, sound system, reliability, and handling. The r-spec is around $50k new and suppoesd to be a good value at that price for its class.
Absolutely yes.I've been out of the car game for a while, so are Hyundai's now on par with Toyota, Nissan, Honda?
I am a convert to say yes on this and IMO you get much more bang for your buck because you are not buying the brand.I've been out of the car game for a while, so are Hyundai's now on par with Toyota, Nissan, Honda?
I am a convert to say yes on this and IMO you get much more bang for your buck because you are not buying the brand.
Shopped for a while and pulled the trigger on a 2014 Genesis 5.0L r-spec with 9,500 miles on it. Out the door for $30k was a great deal imo and it is truly a blast to drive. I don't like spending that much for a car but I don't think this deal will be there the next time I'm shopping. It does guzzle gas but I'm very happy with the purchase so far. Thanks for the heads up, [icon]!
That means the secret has gotten out.
~15k miles and a little over a year later and I still absolutely LOVE my '10 Genesis 4.6. Fantastic ride, ridiculous sound system, plenty of pep. When I purchased it there was absolutely nothing in the ballpark from Toyota/Nissan/etc at the same price point. I am sold.
My father (Lexus LS400/430 fanboy for the last 20 years or so) loves it as well and has said his next car will likely be a Genesis.
Only downside is the MSRP is creeping up closer to their more comparable models from MB/Lexus/etc.
That seems like a ridiculous deal.Shopped for a while and pulled the trigger on a 2014 Genesis 5.0L r-spec with 9,500 miles on it. Out the door for $30k was a great deal imo and it is truly a blast to drive. I don't like spending that much for a car but I don't think this deal will be there the next time I'm shopping. It does guzzle gas but I'm very happy with the purchase so far. Thanks for the heads up, [icon]!
Not yet but :drool:Anyone have one of the newly named Genesis G80/G90?
Yep… Unfortunately the Genesis is no longer the easy SOD ... but for that caliber vehicle is still prevents solid valueBase model starts at $41k which is a little but fully loaded it's still $10k cheaper than the $$$$ luxury brands it competes with.
This is the type of vehicle that I think is a great used purchase. More than likely it wont be beat up or abused, it will have been a leased vehicle and have low mileage. I love having someone else eat the deprecation for meYep… Unfortunately the Genesis is no longer the easy SOD ... but for that caliber vehicle is still prevents solid value
Why would someone buy one of these vehicles and not beat it up?This is the type of vehicle that I think is a great used purchase. More than likely it wont be beat up or abused, it will have been a leased vehicle and have low mileage. I love having someone else eat the deprecation for me
In Pa we have places called "Car Sense". They are one of those used car lots that are no haggle and sell a ton of prior leased vehicles. Vehicles in this class much like Volvo, BMW etc that get leased are more often leased by an older crowed and thus treated better.Why would someone buy one of these vehicles and not beat it up?
OK, ya, I guess that makes sense. My dad (72) has a leased BMW currently. I'd definitely be happy buying that off lease knowing how he took care of it.In Pa we have places called "Car Sense". They are one of those used car lots that are no haggle and sell a ton of prior leased vehicles. Vehicles in this class much like Volvo, BMW etc that get leased are more often leased by an older crowed and thus treated better.
Exactly. I know I take much better care of my vehicles now compared to when I was in my twenties. I also would have never wanted to drive a "luxury" sedan back then.OK, ya, I guess that makes sense. My dad (72) has a leased BMW currently. I'd definitely be happy buying that off lease knowing how he took care of it.
Now, if I leased any sort of sporty vehicle knowing I'd be turning over the keys after a few years, I'd feel sorry for the sucker that bought that next.