I just got hosed! (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Good advice

 

[crnerblitz]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

I think this is the very best option to be given.

 

[yellowdog]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Good advice

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

I think this is the very best option to be given.

All in favor,

 

[buck naked]

I would bolt fast from the league. I would send an e-mail to the rest of the leaguemates explaining the situation and that because of the Commish's decision (the person who benefitted from the LJ trade AND the rule change), you chose not to join this year. Go out with class, but with resolve.

 

[Shipshewana Psychos]

Glock has it right. I think that's the classiest thing you can do, but at the same time if the Commish doesn't reverse the trade or allow you and everyone else to keep three, you pick up your stuff and leave.

You know on the way out the door the commish will be begging you to stay, this gives you another chance to say, "I told you what needs to happen for me to stay." If he agrees to correct the issue, play the year out, kick all their cans and then find a new league.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

I love this advice. if you're tight friends with some of the guys, they may think it's a little jerky to drop AT the draft, but stick to your guns. you're not the problem, the commish is.

in the meantime, inquire with some of your other friends/colleagues for an opening in a replacement league, if necessary.

 

[cowpie]

Major changes to the structure of the league should take effect the following year/season, not immediately. This sort of thing would make me go a little snakey too. You basically traded LJ for Bush, or LJ for Owens. If they had given you a full year in advance like a properly run league would do, there is no way you make that trade. Tell the league you are still in and bail out on draft nite. Give them no warning, see how they like it.

hahaahah, i love this. text them write them a note right at draft night and say that you are giving them the same last minute notice that they gave. you. write your complaint in writing and say that you will not be playing and why. hey, you are not in there next year anyways right. why not. if you like the league and can stay in it a few more years, then i would not do this.Dear fellow "league name" players,I strategically planned for a 3 player keeper league and traded LJ for bush Or LJ for owens (i would say Bushin this case owens is too old). Regardless of the performance of either player in years to come this will affect my team and there is nothing i can do to take back the trade at this point. Thanks for the last minute notice (after the trade). Had this been decided before hand, me and maybe others would have done different. A change of this magnitude should be set up one season in advance. I am now giving you the same notice you gave me and considering that you did not give me enough notice to alter my decision, i am giving you the same respect I was given. not only that, but you are kicking me out of the league next year because i have complained that i feel i was mistreated. i will not be at today's draft and hope you now know how it feels to be cheated of advance notice and time to prepare. too bad these last 8 years are down the drain. ex player. .........to the guy that got screwed. as far as the $75 from $50 ol well, it was voted on and so what it is only $25 its not like it went to $200. sorry but, over 16 weeks tha tis only like 1.5 a week. buy one less pop or water each week, or one less beer every other.

 

[Ninersfan]

I also agreed with the suggestion of leaving at the draft but I doubt the league will change back to the prior rule. If they do then you've got what a few owners that can have a 3rd keeper right then and the rest of the folks have planned their own teams based on two. Even if I thought you were wronged there's no way I'd vote to give you another keeper right before the draft. It's not right but it's human nature.

I would make the point that the commish is the one who benefitted from your trade.

 

[Tough As Nails]

Fantasy football is supposed to be fun. If this situation makes it so that you're not having fun anymore...leave. If you know you'll still have fun, then play. It's really that simple. Hemming and hawing and complaining and arguing about a rule change doesn't sound fun to me. It's just a few dollars between friends. If it makes you (or the commish or whoever) have ill-feelings toward each other...then you shouldn't be playing.

 

[cowpie]

So, you are getting booted next year by the league? Sounds like the perfect scenario to tank the season and leave your team in shambles for the next sucker they will hose over. Subtle deals that won't get vetoed are in order for you this year. Trade your 1st round pick next year to the team of your choice. Draft a good team, then trade it away, piece by piece. Make sure you leave no worthy keepers, and no picks in the first 5 or so rounds next year. Become a complete ##### during the season by submitting good lineups, then bad ones. Do whatever you can to force the commish into a heart attack. Yes, it is quite easy to ruin an entire league. The rule change alone means this league already sucks.

what are the exact reasons you are getting booted??that is pretty unfair. its not like you were cheating.

 

[cowpie]

Glock has it right. I think that's the classiest thing you can do, but at the same time if the Commish doesn't reverse the trade or allow you and everyone else to keep three, you pick up your stuff and leave.You know on the way out the door the commish will be begging you to stay, this gives you another chance to say, "I told you what needs to happen for me to stay." If he agrees to correct the issue, play the year out, kick all their cans and then find a new league.

acutally this i probaby the best bet. I understand WHY they went to 2 keeper. because they have 2 buddies that want in and it gives them a better start, but considering it was an off season trade and an off season rule change, i would problaby say, ok, i will agree to the 3 to 2 keeper league, but i am out unless the trade is reversed. I would submit the e-mail to the entire league basicallly saying that you have been told you are being kicked out of the league next year, but you will stay so you don't screw them this year, but only if the trade is reversed. otherwise they need to find a new player.

 

[stevegamer]

I think the commish is at least partly doing this because he improves his keepers?

Look at the upsaide for Mr. Commish:

1. Improved keepers this year.

2. Get a couple buddies in to the league by expanidng just for them, they may see it as a favor.

3. Screw over one of your biggest rivals, and then boot him next year when he won't be so screwed any more.

I'd make sure everyone has a copy of your position going into it. If you're up for it, leave & form/find a new league.

This guy should NOT be a commish.

 

[Pipes]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

 

[Crusaderfan]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

I think I like this approach the best. Regardless of what you choose to do, I hope somehow you can show the commish and maybe all of your league-mates this thread. The commish needs to see that a lot of people think he's acting like a ####.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I agree with others that have said if they don't postpone the rules for a season you should bail. Unless your friends are the ones screwing you, would they be open to forming another league with you?

What I strongly disagree with is you saying you'll join and then bailing at the last second. It's immature and it makes you as childish as the commish is being. Being an adult is about doing what's right, even when things aren't going your way.

 

[CiscoKid]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

I have to disagree with this - the commish is being the tool, not him, particularly because the commish is the one that made this 2 for 1 trade with him in the offseason. Now the commish is going to change the rules 'casue he only has 2 keepers and no longer has 3? I think in this situation the advice that was given is the best. I'd go to the draft and have the rules put to a vote (in addition to thoughts of me being "tossed" the following year). If the rules didn't revert to what they were supposed to be, I'd walk with my $ in my pocket.

 

[*****]

Glock has it right. I think that's the classiest thing you can do, but at the same time if the Commish doesn't reverse the trade or allow you and everyone else to keep three, you pick up your stuff and leave.You know on the way out the door the commish will be begging you to stay, this gives you another chance to say, "I told you what needs to happen for me to stay." If he agrees to correct the issue, play the year out, kick all their cans and then find a new league.

acutally this i probaby the best bet. I understand WHY they went to 2 keeper. because they have 2 buddies that want in and it gives them a better start, but considering it was an off season trade and an off season rule change, i would problaby say, ok, i will agree to the 3 to 2 keeper league, but i am out unless the trade is reversed. I would submit the e-mail to the entire league basicallly saying that you have been told you are being kicked out of the league next year, but you will stay so you don't screw them this year, but only if the trade is reversed. otherwise they need to find a new player.

This is the way to handle it with class. A last minute walk out actually does make you a bit of a tool. The addition of new owners makes the move from 3 keepers to 2 keepers a good idea. But, the LJ trade should probably be reversed.I expect that there will be resistance because some other owner will say his trade from last October should be undone because THAT trade was done with 3 keepers in mind as well. Maybe yes. Maybe no. But, I think its reasonable to undo an off-season trade since you will never get any of the benefit of your bargain. The in season trade at least got to use their players for part of a season.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

I have to disagree with this - the commish is being the tool, not him, particularly because the commish is the one that made this 2 for 1 trade with him in the offseason. Now the commish is going to change the rules 'casue he only has 2 keepers and no longer has 3? I think in this situation the advice that was given is the best. I'd go to the draft and have the rules put to a vote (in addition to thoughts of me being "tossed" the following year). If the rules didn't revert to what they were supposed to be, I'd walk with my $ in my pocket.

This is a terrible idea because he becomes the bad guy. The commish screwed him over, he's really the wronged party...but everyone will have the image of him hurting the league by "gathering up his stuff" and walking out like a baby. There's no "head held high." It's "Oh, you came here to walk out and punish your friends? What a crybaby. Let the loser leave." What do you think people are going to say live and in person? "Hey, good job walking out on us right now?" Is that what you think will happen?He could send out a league e-mail asking for them to reconsider, but to stage a walkout in person sounds very lame. That person would be mocked during their walk of shame, and if they're a "friend" they'd never live down the day they picked up their football and ran home to mommy over a $75 fantasy football league.

Again, I agree that he's the wronged party. But walking out at the draft is overly-dramatic. It sounds good on a message board (they really do deserve it) but this isn't a play. That would come off as very lame in real life.

 

[Jack Burton]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

I have to disagree with this - the commish is being the tool, not him, particularly because the commish is the one that made this 2 for 1 trade with him in the offseason. Now the commish is going to change the rules 'casue he only has 2 keepers and no longer has 3? I think in this situation the advice that was given is the best. I'd go to the draft and have the rules put to a vote (in addition to thoughts of me being "tossed" the following year). If the rules didn't revert to what they were supposed to be, I'd walk with my $ in my pocket.

This is a terrible idea because he becomes the bad guy. The commish screwed him over, he's really the wronged party...but everyone will have the image of him hurting the league by "gathering up his stuff" and walking out like a baby. There's no "head held high." It's "Oh, you came here to walk out and punish your friends? What a crybaby. Let the loser leave." What do you think people are going to say live and in person? "Hey, good job walking out on us right now?" Is that what you think will happen?He could send out a league e-mail asking for them to reconsider, but to stage a walkout in person sounds very lame. That person would be mocked during their walk of shame, and if they're a "friend" they'd never live down the day they picked up their football and ran home to mommy over a $75 fantasy football league.

Again, I agree that he's the wronged party. But walking out at the draft is overly-dramatic. It sounds good on a message board (they really do deserve it) but this isn't a play. That would come off as very lame in real life.

Why should he give a crap what they think. They obviously dont give a crap about him getting screwed over. This turn the other cheek BS is for suckers. If I got the shaft the way he did, they would hear about it.

 

[glock]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

I have to disagree with this - the commish is being the tool, not him, particularly because the commish is the one that made this 2 for 1 trade with him in the offseason. Now the commish is going to change the rules 'casue he only has 2 keepers and no longer has 3? I think in this situation the advice that was given is the best. I'd go to the draft and have the rules put to a vote (in addition to thoughts of me being "tossed" the following year). If the rules didn't revert to what they were supposed to be, I'd walk with my $ in my pocket.

This is a terrible idea because he becomes the bad guy. The commish screwed him over, he's really the wronged party...but everyone will have the image of him hurting the league by "gathering up his stuff" and walking out like a baby. There's no "head held high." It's "Oh, you came here to walk out and punish your friends? What a crybaby. Let the loser leave." What do you think people are going to say live and in person? "Hey, good job walking out on us right now?" Is that what you think will happen?He could send out a league e-mail asking for them to reconsider, but to stage a walkout in person sounds very lame. That person would be mocked during their walk of shame, and if they're a "friend" they'd never live down the day they picked up their football and ran home to mommy over a $75 fantasy football league.

Again, I agree that he's the wronged party. But walking out at the draft is overly-dramatic. It sounds good on a message board (they really do deserve it) but this isn't a play. That would come off as very lame in real life.

I still say that confronting the issue in person- straight up, no chaser is the best option. The OP is looking at getting the boot after the season based on the actions of this wienie of a commish. No friend would blame him for walking out. While this suggestion had nothing to do with staging drama, I can't help but chuckle at the thought of the deafening silence after the OP walked out....

:crickets:

 

[AnonymousBob]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

I have to disagree with this - the commish is being the tool, not him, particularly because the commish is the one that made this 2 for 1 trade with him in the offseason. Now the commish is going to change the rules 'casue he only has 2 keepers and no longer has 3? I think in this situation the advice that was given is the best. I'd go to the draft and have the rules put to a vote (in addition to thoughts of me being "tossed" the following year). If the rules didn't revert to what they were supposed to be, I'd walk with my $ in my pocket.

This is a terrible idea because he becomes the bad guy. The commish screwed him over, he's really the wronged party...but everyone will have the image of him hurting the league by "gathering up his stuff" and walking out like a baby. There's no "head held high." It's "Oh, you came here to walk out and punish your friends? What a crybaby. Let the loser leave." What do you think people are going to say live and in person? "Hey, good job walking out on us right now?" Is that what you think will happen?He could send out a league e-mail asking for them to reconsider, but to stage a walkout in person sounds very lame. That person would be mocked during their walk of shame, and if they're a "friend" they'd never live down the day they picked up their football and ran home to mommy over a $75 fantasy football league.

Again, I agree that he's the wronged party. But walking out at the draft is overly-dramatic. It sounds good on a message board (they really do deserve it) but this isn't a play. That would come off as very lame in real life.

Why should he give a crap what they think. They obviously dont give a crap about him getting screwed over. This turn the other cheek BS is for suckers. If I got the shaft the way he did, they would hear about it.

This turn the other cheek stuff is not BS, nor is it for suckers. You shouldn't only act with class when things are going your way-any moron can do that. It's how you act once you've been wronged that shows your character. This needs to be resolved BEFORE draft day. Walking out on these people is f'd up. Doesn't matter how much you've been wronged, it's not cool to leave them hanging like that. Let's all remember-while he was wronged, this is still fantasy football. The commish didn't kill the OP's dog or sleep with his wife. If you can't handle this relatively minor issue in a league of fantasy football without throwing a tantrum then there's something wrong with you.

He got screwed. If the league won't right the wrong then he can and should walk. But for crying out loud, be a man about it-this running out on draft day nonsense is something you shouldn't seriously consider if you're over the age of 16.

 

[j3r3m3y]

I can't believe the commish has the nerve to say you can play this year but then you're kicked out -- like he is doing you a favor!

If it weren't for this I would say quit today, and let them find a replacement.Because of this I say just don't show on draft day, screw them.I wouldn't want to participate in a league that makes rule changes like this for the current year. We have a rule that you can only trade draft picks for the next draft, not beyond. This gives us the ability to allow any rule changes to take affect with everyone having a clean slate.

 

[Lehigh98]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

I have to disagree with this - the commish is being the tool, not him, particularly because the commish is the one that made this 2 for 1 trade with him in the offseason. Now the commish is going to change the rules 'casue he only has 2 keepers and no longer has 3? I think in this situation the advice that was given is the best. I'd go to the draft and have the rules put to a vote (in addition to thoughts of me being "tossed" the following year). If the rules didn't revert to what they were supposed to be, I'd walk with my $ in my pocket.

This is a terrible idea because he becomes the bad guy. The commish screwed him over, he's really the wronged party...but everyone will have the image of him hurting the league by "gathering up his stuff" and walking out like a baby. There's no "head held high." It's "Oh, you came here to walk out and punish your friends? What a crybaby. Let the loser leave." What do you think people are going to say live and in person? "Hey, good job walking out on us right now?" Is that what you think will happen?He could send out a league e-mail asking for them to reconsider, but to stage a walkout in person sounds very lame. That person would be mocked during their walk of shame, and if they're a "friend" they'd never live down the day they picked up their football and ran home to mommy over a $75 fantasy football league.

Again, I agree that he's the wronged party. But walking out at the draft is overly-dramatic. It sounds good on a message board (they really do deserve it) but this isn't a play. That would come off as very lame in real life.

I still say that confronting the issue in person- straight up, no chaser is the best option. The OP is looking at getting the boot after the season based on the actions of this wienie of a commish. No friend would blame him for walking out. While this suggestion had nothing to do with staging drama, I can't help but chuckle at the thought of the deafening silence after the OP walked out....

:crickets:

He definitly needs to bring a microphone just so he can drop it on the floor before he walks.

SEXUAL CHOCOLATE!

 

[Jack Burton]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

I have to disagree with this - the commish is being the tool, not him, particularly because the commish is the one that made this 2 for 1 trade with him in the offseason. Now the commish is going to change the rules 'casue he only has 2 keepers and no longer has 3? I think in this situation the advice that was given is the best. I'd go to the draft and have the rules put to a vote (in addition to thoughts of me being "tossed" the following year). If the rules didn't revert to what they were supposed to be, I'd walk with my $ in my pocket.

This is a terrible idea because he becomes the bad guy. The commish screwed him over, he's really the wronged party...but everyone will have the image of him hurting the league by "gathering up his stuff" and walking out like a baby. There's no "head held high." It's "Oh, you came here to walk out and punish your friends? What a crybaby. Let the loser leave." What do you think people are going to say live and in person? "Hey, good job walking out on us right now?" Is that what you think will happen?He could send out a league e-mail asking for them to reconsider, but to stage a walkout in person sounds very lame. That person would be mocked during their walk of shame, and if they're a "friend" they'd never live down the day they picked up their football and ran home to mommy over a $75 fantasy football league.

Again, I agree that he's the wronged party. But walking out at the draft is overly-dramatic. It sounds good on a message board (they really do deserve it) but this isn't a play. That would come off as very lame in real life.

Why should he give a crap what they think. They obviously dont give a crap about him getting screwed over. This turn the other cheek BS is for suckers. If I got the shaft the way he did, they would hear about it.

This turn the other cheek stuff is not BS, nor is it for suckers. You shouldn't only act with class when things are going your way-any moron can do that. It's how you act once you've been wronged that shows your character. This needs to be resolved BEFORE draft day. Walking out on these people is f'd up. Doesn't matter how much you've been wronged, it's not cool to leave them hanging like that. Let's all remember-while he was wronged, this is still fantasy football. The commish didn't kill the OP's dog or sleep with his wife. If you can't handle this relatively minor issue in a league of fantasy football without throwing a tantrum then there's something wrong with you.

He got screwed. If the league won't right the wrong then he can and should walk. But for crying out loud, be a man about it-this running out on draft day nonsense is something you shouldn't seriously consider if you're over the age of 16.

Did you even read the original post? He is being told to hit the road but oh yeah, we still need you this year because we havent found your replacement yet and we want your seventy five bucks. We are also going to change the rules to screw you over, just in case you dont get the hint. I would not take that sitting down.

If you let them do you that way, thats exactly how they'll treat you. I say fight fire with fire. That doesnt mean throwing a tantrum, It means give them a dose of...

 

[Angry Beavers]

The Commish is a jerkoff

I would form another league with your other friends

I would not draft or pay $ 75.00.

I would let the commish know exactly what I think

I would demand UNDOING the offseason transaction in which you traded LJ if you are going to even consider sticking around.

 

[Civil]

I think either way the Commish is a jerk and you should quit the league, so here is my suggestion:

If by some miracle you can reverse the trade and get LJ back.... You should drop him from your keeper list just to piss the commish off, then still quit but do it next year.

 

[Demons]

$75.00 and the value of your time indicate that you should leave before the cash is paid and you waste your time doing a draft and setting a roster all season. The kicker for me is that you are being booted out after this season anyway. I can't understand the one season warning, since it allows for all sorts of stuff, none of it good.

I am in the minority, in that I think you did better on the trade by getting Bush. But I'm not high on LJ.

Something else to consider, thinking constructively, is to trade Westbrook and Owens to a team that needs two keepers and has Stephen Jackson, or another player along those lines. Or trade for a draft pick.

If you decide to play out the season, trade your future to win now. Every last 2008 pick you can reasonably trade should be traded to upgrade your roster for this season.

Still, when all is said and done, I would wait until the last possible moment to pay, before skipping the draft and not paying. Maybe ask that the draft be pushed out until the final weekend before the season starts, due to a scheduling conflict. If you do pay the money you can become the biggest ##### in the world, since you won't be playing next year anyway.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

I was actually in this situation before as the commish of a league of long time friends. I think that ee voted on changing from a serpentine draft order every round to 1-16, 1-16, 16-1 for the first three rounds and serpentine every round after that, and voted for it to be implemented the upcoming season, not the following season. We voted for this at the payout party, six months or so before the season starts. The payout party is where the voting happens. But the actual rule is irrelevant at this point.

Since we determine our draft order by place the season before everyone knew their draft position before the vote, and the outcome after the vote. One owner in particular (I think he was picking like 13th?) didn't like that he had to wait all those extra picks, and actually thought we were all out to get him. The thing was, EVERONE'S draft position changed, some for better, some for worse. It's all about where you prefer drafting I guess.

So he is #####ing and moaning on the message boards about it and I basically tell him "We voted, sorry".

Anyway, he shows up to the draft, and sits in his assigned seat (we sit around the table in draft order). Before each draft we go over new rules and bull#### a little. He chimes in that he doesn't like the new rule as that he "got hosed" so to speak. I again tell him we're not changing anything right before the draft. He argues his point for a bit to no avail. Then he gets up and leaves with his "chin held high". We were all like then looked over to an owners brother (Ex-college football player) that came the draft and said "you wanna take over his team". He was in in a heartbeat and came in 4th his second year. We like him better. He is not baby and understands some things are more important than Fantasy Football, like the opportunity to hang out with all you old buddies, even if it's only once or twice a year.

The End.

 

[DWidmar]

I am a bit in the minority here with some of this stuff but as far as the rule changes goes, it was not the commish who did this, the league voted and the majority changed it. Secondly, I am sure he did not make the only trade last year with the thought of who his 3 keepers would be and some other owners are gettins screwed as well. Also everyone has to pay $75.00 not just him. The rules changed for the other 9 owners in the league why is he the only one with the issues?

On the "this is your last year" part, I would politely decline to play this year. Why would you want to make trades and changes to a team that won't even be yours next year. Also like some others have said, be classy and don't be a tool because you think the changes are wrong. Just email the league and tell them your thoughts and concerns, ask them to reconsider the changes until next year and if they decline, submit your resignation.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Go to the draft. Cooly articulate your/our position to the entire league regarding the league changes and the commish's decision to "let" you play this year, but toss you for next (I still don't get THAT one at all BTW- for what? Arguing aggressively about what went down?). Do not let them know that you are considering leaving now if the pertinent changes are not put off til next season.

When done, ask that the owners reconsider as a group. If they all decide not to or the commish then runs interference wish them all the best, pick up your beer and bail with your $75...

...with your head held high.

Just quit the league. If you show up to the draft and walk out you've just become the tool...don't be that guy.

I have to disagree with this - the commish is being the tool, not him, particularly because the commish is the one that made this 2 for 1 trade with him in the offseason. Now the commish is going to change the rules 'casue he only has 2 keepers and no longer has 3? I think in this situation the advice that was given is the best. I'd go to the draft and have the rules put to a vote (in addition to thoughts of me being "tossed" the following year). If the rules didn't revert to what they were supposed to be, I'd walk with my $ in my pocket.

This is a terrible idea because he becomes the bad guy. The commish screwed him over, he's really the wronged party...but everyone will have the image of him hurting the league by "gathering up his stuff" and walking out like a baby. There's no "head held high." It's "Oh, you came here to walk out and punish your friends? What a crybaby. Let the loser leave." What do you think people are going to say live and in person? "Hey, good job walking out on us right now?" Is that what you think will happen?He could send out a league e-mail asking for them to reconsider, but to stage a walkout in person sounds very lame. That person would be mocked during their walk of shame, and if they're a "friend" they'd never live down the day they picked up their football and ran home to mommy over a $75 fantasy football league.

Again, I agree that he's the wronged party. But walking out at the draft is overly-dramatic. It sounds good on a message board (they really do deserve it) but this isn't a play. That would come off as very lame in real life.

Why should he give a crap what they think. They obviously dont give a crap about him getting screwed over. This turn the other cheek BS is for suckers. If I got the shaft the way he did, they would hear about it.

This turn the other cheek stuff is not BS, nor is it for suckers. You shouldn't only act with class when things are going your way-any moron can do that. It's how you act once you've been wronged that shows your character. This needs to be resolved BEFORE draft day. Walking out on these people is f'd up. Doesn't matter how much you've been wronged, it's not cool to leave them hanging like that. Let's all remember-while he was wronged, this is still fantasy football. The commish didn't kill the OP's dog or sleep with his wife. If you can't handle this relatively minor issue in a league of fantasy football without throwing a tantrum then there's something wrong with you.

He got screwed. If the league won't right the wrong then he can and should walk. But for crying out loud, be a man about it-this running out on draft day nonsense is something you shouldn't seriously consider if you're over the age of 16.

Did you even read the original post? He is being told to hit the road but oh yeah, we still need you this year because we havent found your replacement yet and we want your seventy five bucks. We are also going to change the rules to screw you over, just in case you dont get the hint. I would not take that sitting down.

If you let them do you that way, thats exactly how they'll treat you. I say fight fire with fire. That doesnt mean throwing a tantrum, It means give them a dose of...

Did you even read my posts? I have not once said he shouldn't leave the league if they won't appease him in some way. I'm simply saying that walking out on them come draft day is f'd up. Yes, they screwed him but he doesn't need to give them a taste of their own medicine. There is no reason he shouldn't be able to resolve things BEFORE draft day. Again, if they won't do anything to help him from being screwed at the last minute then I would walk away-I just wouldn't show up and at the last second shoot out on them.

Some of you are entirely too quick to start burning bridges. If you go in swinging at everyone I highly doubt anything of a positive note will be accomplished. Calmly, before draft day, express your concerns and why you feel you are getting the raw end of things (email would likely work best). I agree almost completely with what Glock posted, I simply disagree over WHEN it should be done. The actual method he suggested was IMO the best possible solution.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I was actually in this situation before as the commish of a league of long time friends. I think that ee voted on changing from a serpentine draft order every round to 1-16, 1-16, 16-1 for the first three rounds and serpentine every round after that, and voted for it to be implemented the upcoming season, not the following season. We voted for this at the payout party, six months or so before the season starts. The payout party is where the voting happens. But the actual rule is irrelevant at this point.Since we determine our draft order by place the season before everyone knew their draft position before the vote, and the outcome after the vote. One owner in particular (I think he was picking like 13th?) didn't like that he had to wait all those extra picks, and actually thought we were all out to get him. The thing was, EVERONE'S draft position changed, some for better, some for worse. It's all about where you prefer drafting I guess.So he is #####ing and moaning on the message boards about it and I basically tell him "We voted, sorry".Anyway, he shows up to the draft, and sits in his assigned seat (we sit around the table in draft order). Before each draft we go over new rules and bull#### a little. He chimes in that he doesn't like the new rule as that he "got hosed" so to speak. I again tell him we're not changing anything right before the draft. He argues his point for a bit to no avail. Then he gets up and leaves with his "chin held high". We were all like then looked over to an owners brother (Ex-college football player) that came the draft and said "you wanna take over his team". He was in in a heartbeat and came in 4th his second year. We like him better. He is not baby and understands some things are more important than Fantasy Football, like the opportunity to hang out with all you old buddies, even if it's only once or twice a year.The End.

This is what I mean. No matter how badly he was hosed, the league will see taking his ball and going home as being a crybaby. People are imagining an "Animal House" parade-style comeback in the end where the league is stunned as he wreaks havoc on draft day by walking out. None of that will happen. They'll be like "You're leaving? Okay, wimp. Adios." And that's it. He's in the right, so there's no reasn to make himself look bad.I normally believe in being a good sport, but the way he was treated I'd totally support being a no-show and letting those idiots deal with it. But actually showing up, hanging out, then making a plea to change things and walking out? No. It shows you have nothing better to do than create some drama.The better thing to do would have your cell phone on, and when they call, say. "Oh, I changed my mind. I decided not to participate. But...can you call back later? I'm in the middle of another draft. Thanks." Then hang up.

 

[JAA]

you are getting hosed

 

[Addai's Adidas]

you are getting hosed

 

[flranger]

you are getting hosed

 

[glock]

I was actually in this situation before as the commish of a league of long time friends. I think that ee voted on changing from a serpentine draft order every round to 1-16, 1-16, 16-1 for the first three rounds and serpentine every round after that, and voted for it to be implemented the upcoming season, not the following season. We voted for this at the payout party, six months or so before the season starts. The payout party is where the voting happens. But the actual rule is irrelevant at this point.Since we determine our draft order by place the season before everyone knew their draft position before the vote, and the outcome after the vote. One owner in particular (I think he was picking like 13th?) didn't like that he had to wait all those extra picks, and actually thought we were all out to get him. The thing was, EVERONE'S draft position changed, some for better, some for worse. It's all about where you prefer drafting I guess.So he is #####ing and moaning on the message boards about it and I basically tell him "We voted, sorry".Anyway, he shows up to the draft, and sits in his assigned seat (we sit around the table in draft order). Before each draft we go over new rules and bull#### a little. He chimes in that he doesn't like the new rule as that he "got hosed" so to speak. I again tell him we're not changing anything right before the draft. He argues his point for a bit to no avail. Then he gets up and leaves with his "chin held high". We were all like then looked over to an owners brother (Ex-college football player) that came the draft and said "you wanna take over his team". He was in in a heartbeat and came in 4th his second year. We like him better. He is not baby and understands some things are more important than Fantasy Football, like the opportunity to hang out with all you old buddies, even if it's only once or twice a year.The End.

Not exactly the same thing. You are talking about draft order changed 6 months prior to the draft.The OP complained about votes held THIS WEEK- within a week of the draft- AFTER an offseason of trading wherin he established his keepers...and perhaps did too well for some people- including the commish.At this time of year there is no getting everyone together in person before the draft and sometimes "in person" is the only way to deal with a situation. IMHO this is one of those situations. Of course there is more to life than fantasy football. But I would have a real hard time playing with people who didn't give a rats ### about basic FF decorum, or me for that matter. As for your substitute owner? I'm glad he was areal swell guy and that worked out for you. The guy he replaced WAS being a baby. But again, apples/oranges with the OP's situation.