I think it should be federal law..... (1 Viewer)

[jerry jones]

.....fill in the blank all you anti-trumpers!

here's one to start:

.....that the entire first family must live at one residence.

 

[IC FBGCav]

.....fill in the blank all you anti-trumpers!

here's one to start:

.....that the entire first family must live at one residence.

Why is this anti Trump, it is just common sense.

 

[Cjw_55106]

I couldnt care less where the first family lives. 

 

[jerry jones]

I couldnt care less where the first family lives. 

Me neither, just poking fun at all the freaking out going on daily

 

[joffer]

Me neither, just poking fun at all the freaking out going on daily

good one

 

[wlwiles]

to pass a drug test to receive Welfare

 

[-OZ-]

I couldnt care less where the first family lives. 

Of course not, you're reasonable.  But I do object to us paying so much for security.  Not strenuously.

 

[Koya]

How about just respecting the current laws and constitution, not impeding investigations into possible espionage/treason and have a modicum of freakin' decorum in international affairs?

I'd be happy with that. 

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Of course not, you're reasonable.  But I do object to us paying so much for security.  Not strenuously.

I agree. I'm curious to know how they come up with those figures. It's an insane amount of money

 

[Koya]

Of course not, you're reasonable.  But I do object to us paying so much for security.  Not strenuously.

On this issue, if the President wants to have his family live in their own residence, full time, so be it.

But don't expect the tax payers to foot the bill for that choice. It's simply not the right thing to do (regardless of legal, which I don't see how it would not be).  And by tax payers, I mean Federal and the City you "call" home - yet have no problem burdening with your selfish behavior and decisions. 

 

[Cjw_55106]

How about just respecting the current laws and constitution, not impeding investigations into possible espionage/treason and have a modicum of freakin' decorum in international affairs?

I'd be happy with that. 

Doubtful. 

 

[roadkill1292]

Me neither, just poking fun at all the freaking out going on daily

It's a hoot, man! You should post more often!

 

[urbanhack]

to pass a drug test to receive Welfare

pass a drug test to get mortgage interest deduction.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Stop all dependent and child care tax breaks, you have them you pay for them.

 

[MikeIke]

Medicare for everyone.

 

[Godsbrother]

Stop all dependent and child care tax breaks, you have them you pay for them.

Eliminate all tax breaks.   

 

[Cjw_55106]

Stop all dependent and child care tax breaks, you have them you pay for them.

Why limit it to parents?

Credits for Individuals

Family & Dependents

Earned Income Tax Credit

Child and Dependent Care Credit

Adoption Credit

Child Tax Credit

Credit for the Elderly or Disabled

Health Care

Premium Tax Credit (Affordable Care Act)

Health Coverage Tax Credit

Income and Savings

Earned Income Tax Credit

Saver's Credit

Foreign Tax Credit

Excess Social Security and RRTA Tax Withheld

Credit for Tax on Undistributed Capital Gain

Nonrefundable Credit for Prior Year Minimum Tax

Credit to Holders of Tax Credit Bonds

Education

Lifetime Learning Credit

American Opportunity Tax Credit

Homeowners

Mortgage Interest Credit

Residential Energy Efficient Property Credit

Nonbusiness Energy Property Credit

Low-Income Housing Credit (for Owners)

Subtract tax deductions from your income before you calculate the amount of tax you owe. 

Deductions for Individuals

Work-Related

Deductible Business Expenses

Standard Mileage Rates

Home Office

Business Use of Car

Business Travel Expenses

Bad Debt

Business Entertainment Expense

Depreciation and Amortization

Investments

Sale of Home

Individual Retirement Arrangements (IRAs)

myRA

Capital Losses

Education

Student Loan Interest

Tuition and Fees Deduction

Work-Related Educational Expenses

Teacher's Educational Expenses

Health Care

Medical and Dental Expenses

Health Savings Account (HSA)

Itemized Deductions

Standard Deduction

Deductible Taxes

Property Tax

Real Estate Tax

Sales Tax

Charitable Contributions

Gambling Loss

Miscellaneous Expenses

Interest Expense

Home Mortgage Interest

Union/Club Expenses

Moving Expenses

Miscellaneous Deductions

Alimony Paid

Casualty, Disaster and Theft Losses

 

[IC FBGCav]

Why limit it to parents?

I'm good with that but parents are the rake of the tax system.

 

[Cjw_55106]

I'm good with that but parents are the rake of the tax system.

Im no tax expert, but that doesnt seem to be the case at all:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/06/the-biggest-u-s-tax-breaks/

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I agree. I'm curious to know how they come up with those figures. It's an insane amount of money

It's got to be mostly in the salaries of the secret service people stationed there, right?  But I don't think they hired new agents to cover that area, just re-assigned existing ones that would be paid the same either way, right?

Yeah I'd love to see a breakdown of where the figures come from.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Im no tax expert, but that doesnt seem to be the case at all:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/06/the-biggest-u-s-tax-breaks/

They are in 1, 6, and 9.  Pay for your own brats.

 

[IC FBGCav]

They are in 10 too.   I am appalled. 

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Eliminate all tax breaks.   

 

[IC FBGCav]

Don't even get me started on schools.  Great, I get to pay out the butt for that too.  

 

[Captain Fantastic]

On this issue, if the President wants to have his family live in their own residence, full time, so be it.

But don't expect the tax payers to foot the bill for that choice. It's simply not the right thing to do (regardless of legal, which I don't see how it would not be).  And by tax payers, I mean Federal and the City you "call" home - yet have no problem burdening with your selfish behavior and decisions. 

Just to play devil's advocate, didn't the "leaked tax docs" indicate Trump pays around $30mil/year in taxes? So theoretically, he's probably covering more of his security out of his own pocket than any president in history, right?  

Note - For what it's worth, I have no dog in this hunt. People are gonna overreact on both sides. To an insane level. It's the world we live in and has been since the innernets was founded. Best to just laugh at the right and laugh at the left and pray that the middle finds a way to keep the country from falling apart. 

 

[AAABatteries]

That March 29th be declared Steak and BJ day.

 

[AAABatteries]

That March 30th be declared Steak and BJ day II

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Don't even get me started on schools.  Great, I get to pay out the butt for that too.  

you're upset you have to pay for schools?

 

[Koya]

Doubtful. 

Fair enough. 

I'd be happy with that as a start.  And ecstatically more pleased than this disaster we have currently (and that has nothing to do with ideological differences, mind you... just respecting current law and governing appropriately and transparently)

 

[IC FBGCav]

you're upset you have to pay for schools?

Yeah, I don't have any kids, why do I need to pay for yours?   The parents should pay the bills.  Free market.

 

[Koya]

Just to play devil's advocate, didn't the "leaked tax docs" indicate Trump pays around $30mil/year in taxes? So theoretically, he's probably covering more of his security out of his own pocket than any president in history, right?  

Note - For what it's worth, I have no dog in this hunt. People are gonna overreact on both sides. To an insane level. It's the world we live in and has been since the innernets was founded. Best to just laugh at the right and laugh at the left and pray that the middle finds a way to keep the country from falling apart. 

To play devil's advocate's devil's advocate, that was likely a cherry picked single year of taxes... so who knows.  Regardless, it's costing U.S. taxpayers, and especially NY and NYC taxpayers a ton. Again, it may be Trump's right to do so, but that does not make it right to do so, if that makes sense.

And I can't think of another President in my lifetime that would even consider putting such a burden not only on the federal tax payer (all the while screaming about small gov't!), but their own hometown.  

Man, do I miss W.  At least with him we could actually debate and discuss the policies... and even when there was strong disagreement, he seemed to (not seemed, he DID) CARE.  So I guess I'd like the President to I dont know, care about all Americans, not just those who support and benefit him the most.  Really don't see this as asking too much. 

 

[Cjw_55106]

They are in 1, 6, and 9.  Pay for your own brats.

Are you not also in #1? 

 

[IC FBGCav]

Are you not also in #1? 

I am but I don't ask for it.   I send a check giving back the break I get to the IRS every year.   I don't want anyone footing my bill.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Yeah, I don't have any kids, why do I need to pay for yours?   The parents should pay the bills.  Free market.

Plenty of people with kids that dont use public schools. 

 

[IC FBGCav]

Plenty of people with kids that dont use public schools. 

It should be supply and demand.   We need to quit footing the bill for these schools, they do a horrible job.   The free market will sort it out.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Yeah, I don't have any kids, why do I need to pay for yours?   The parents should pay the bills.  Free market.

Is that how your parents did it when you went to school?

 

[AAABatteries]

There's societal benefits to having an educated populace.  I have no issues with everyone paying for that - I also have kids so feel free to take MO with a grain of salt.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Plenty of people with kids that dont use public schools. 

The honorable ones don't.

 

[Cjw_55106]

It should be supply and demand.   We need to quit footing the bill for these schools, they do a horrible job.   The free market will sort it out.

You think society would be better off not providing schools? I really dont need to add anything to this. 

 

[IC FBGCav]

Is that how your parents did it when you went to school?

Yep, went to St. Vitus then Kennedy Christian.

 

[sublimeone]

... that if you don't pay taxes you don't get to vote.

 

[Thorn]

Eliminate all tax breaks.   

A boy can dream

 

[IC FBGCav]

Yep, went to St. Vitus then Kennedy Christian.

The priests were really hands on there.

 

[belljr]

I moved to our town because of the school district.   If you don't want to pay for top public schools don't live in our town.

 

[roadkill1292]

In a serious vein, I think universal health care should be part of the federal operating budget.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I moved to our town because of the school district.   If you don't want to pay for top public schools don't live in our town.

I have some hasidic friends that might prove you wrong.

 

[RandyDB]

New Simplified Tax Form

Line 1 How much did you make?

Line 2 How much do you have left?

Line 3 Send Line 2

 

[Gachi]

to pass a drug test to receive Welfare

Waste of money and a ploy for drug testing companies to make money that the governor gets a piece of. That's the only reason that it was pushed in Florida. 

 

[NutterButter]

Waste of money and a ploy for drug testing companies to make money that the governor gets a piece of. That's the only reason that it was pushed in Florida. 

Seems to make sense at face value, but if its going to cost more than it saves, what's the point.    

 

[IC FBGCav]

Seems to make sense at face value, but if its going to cost more than it saves, what's the point.    

The point is to ridicule and humiliate someone who is down to make yourself feel better.