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I think McNabb has earned a spot in the Hall of Fame (1 Viewer)

Worth mentioning as well from the 'supporting cast' point of view that McNabb hasnt had a great running game to help him out - mitigated in recent years in that he has had a great dual purpose back in Westbrook but it's still up to McNabb to get the passes to him.
Philly has been top-10 in rushing yardage three times in McNabb's career, most recently in 2007. They were #11 in 2006.
Total RUNNING BACK rushing yards from 2001-2007:New England: 11496 yards

Philadelphia: 10465 yards

Basically a difference of 9.2 yards per game.
2020 of those Philly yards come from McNabb though so he's accounting for 20% of the running game.
I guess the CAPS didn't help any, maybe I need bold and larger type too . . .Total RUNNING BACK rushing yards from 2001-2007:

New England: 11496 yards

Philadelphia: 10465 yards

Basically a difference of 9.2 yards per game.
Missed that somehow, apologies.Several different themes to this discussion now, again as far as I'm concerned I wouldnt start to compare McNabb to Brady.

My point is that McNabb has achieved a great deal without always having that much around him. The highest the Eagles have been ranked in rushing with him at QB is 7th in 2002 with 2,220 rush yards in the season. And he contributed 460 of those that season leaving the rest of his team to average a middle of the road 110 per game.

 
While I agree in practical reality that the WRs that the Eagles have rostered or drafted haven't turned out to do much, they have still had players that were drafted fairly high.

Donte Stallworth - 1st round

Freddie Mitchell - 1st round

Charles Johnson - 1st round

DeSean Jackson - 2nd round

Reggie Brown - 2nd round

Todd Pinkston - 2nd round

LJ Smith - 2nd round

Brian Westbrook - 3rd round (he serves as WR a lot of the time)

Kevin Curtis - 3rd round

Terrell Owens - 3rd round

Antonio Freeman - 3rd round

Billy McMullen - 3rd round

Clearly not many of these guys panned out in the long run, but at some point they were somewhat highly doubted as they were all picked in the top 3 rounds of the draft. I suspect if you compare this group to what Brady has had to work with and cnacel out Moss and Owens that Brady had a lot less in terms of WR talent (at least based on their draft day status).

It's not like the Eagles did not try to invest in guys that they felt had skills (or other teams felt had skills too). Not sure what to maje of the fact that they didn't amount to much.
Stallworth also played for the Pats.Ben Watson - 1st round

Daniel Graham - 1st round

Chad Jackson - 1st round

Terry Glenn - 1st round

Jabar Gaffney - 2nd round

Kevin Faulk - 2nd round

Reche Caldwell - 2nd round

Deion Branch - 2nd round

Bethel Johnson - 2nd round

This list excludes Antowain Smith (1st round), Laurence Maroney (1st round), Kyle Brady (1st round), Corey Dillon (2nd round), Andre Davis (2nd round)
Not that it matters but Jackson was a 2nd rounder. As far the RBs, the only one used as a receiver was Faulk. As for the other receivers, Jackson, Glenn, Johnson, and Davis BARELY saw the field (if that much).Some of the guys noted above for the Eagles also fall off the list

In McNabb's case, most of the guys I listed actually played.

Here's the breakdown of the two teams receiving options since they began playing . . .

Eagles 1999-2008 with 50+ receptions (Not all with McNabb):

1 Brian Westbrook 401 receptions (3rd round)

2 L.J. Smith 231 (2nd round)

3 Chad Lewis 216 (undrafted)

3 Duce Staley 216 (3rd round)

5 Todd Pinkston 184 (2nd round)

6 Reggie Brown 168 (2nd round)

7 James Thrash 164 (undrafted)

8 Greg Lewis 127 (undrafted)

9 Terrell Owens 124 (3rd round)

10 Kevin Curtis 110 (3rd round)

11 Charles Johnson 90 (1st round)

11 Freddie Mitchell 90 (1st round)

13 Torrance Small 89 (5th round)

14 Correll Buckhalter 85 (4th round)

15 Cecil Martin 81 (6th round)

16 Hank Baskett 71 (undrafted)

17 Jason Avant 62 (4th round)

18 DeSean Jackson 62 (2nd round)

Patriots 2000-2007 Receptions (Players of 50+):

1 Troy Brown 337 (8th round)

2 Kevin Faulk 260 (2nd round)

3 Deion Branch 213 (2nd round)

4 David Patten 165 (Undrafted)

5 David Givens 158 (7th round)

6 Daniel Graham 120 (1st round)

7 Ben Watson 116 (1st round)

8 Wes Welker 112 (Undrafted)

9 Randy Moss 98 (1st Round)

10 Christian Fauria (2nd round)

11 Antowain Smith (1st round)

12 Patrick Pass 62 (7th round)

13 Reche Caldwell 61 (2nd round)

14 Corey Dillon 52 (2nd round)

Looking at guys with over 100 receptions:

PHI:

0 1st round, 3 2nd round, 4 3rd round, 3 undrafted

NE:

2 1st round, 2 2nd round, 1 7th round, 3 undrafted

(Counted Brown as undrafted since the draft is only 7 rounds now)

Looks pretty close to me.
I've done the same analysis but only counted guys who have started 20+ games and would say that it doesn't look as close. I figured using GS would tell you if a guy drafted in the 2nd round really should be counted or not (if he can't crack the starting lineup, then he was a bust, and not the QB's fault in anyway). I am trying to come up a with a summary statistics that will wrap it up in a neat little package, and would like to see the results compared to other HOF QBs. Any suggestions are appreciated.
 
His career isn't over guys. If he died tonight.........no, he doesn't get in.If he goes on to win a SB this year and wins another one, I think he gets in. If he wins 1, plays a few more years and is pretty solid, it'll be very close.He still needs to do a little more IMO.
:football: What he said.If he finishes strong over the next few years and gets a SB win he is likely in; if he doesn't get a SB win he will need to put up some really solid numbers and get back to the NFCC/SB a couple of times to have any chance.
 
For those that are interested, here are each team's per game rushing averages over the past 10 seasons (which coincides with McNabb joining the league). And let me add in caps again ONLY COUNTING RUSHING YARDAGE FROM RUNNING BACKS. As you can see, PHI does not rank high on the food chain, which likely comes from their fixation on passing.

DEN 119.27

NYG 115.79

PIT 112.89

JAX 110.54

BAL 110.21

KC 109.98

WAS 109.37

SEA 106.89

DAL 106.11

SD 105.41

GB 103.48

MIN 103.19

SF 102.08

IND 101.06

NYJ 100.27

ATL 99.79

NE 99.54

CIN 99.44

TEN 99.21

STL 98.29

CAR 97.91

OAK 97.67

MIA 97.39

TB 95.39

NO 94.25

BUF 93.56

CHI 93.29

PHI 90.78

HOU 90.21

CLE 80.08

DET 77.14

ARI 75.68

 

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