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I took Eddie Lacy 1.01 in 0.5 PPR. Anyone else with me? (1 Viewer)

Would love OP's team in dynasty. In redraft he needs a lot to go right and very very little to go wrong. I like having some youth with big potential but prefer layering it with some of the old and faithful.

 
Bobby Guano said:
I like Lacy but I dont see the big bump in production some of you guys are predicting in this thread.

GB is a pass first team and I have a feeling the amonut of times GB passes for TDs well inside of the five yardline is going to give some Lacy owners a lot of heartache this season.

Rodgers will get his first and Lacy will get the scrapps( which is prob in the 8 -12 range which isnt bad at all) hats how their O runs. I will crap my pants if Lacy gets 20 TDs this season.
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Well, yeah. 20 Tds by a RB is a very rare thing. What truly separates the men from the boys in FF at the position is the RBs who get 16 or so total TDs vs. the ones that seem to hover at the 10TD mark.

Make no mistake: Eddie Lacy has an excellent shot at 14-16 total this year and that makes him as good a candidate as any RB in fantasy to be an elite top 3.

Draft position totally and completely justified, especially when the weather turns and teams begin to run more and punish defenses. Look at the Pittsburgh game last year and remember. §

 
biju said:
I personally think Lacy is getting over-drafted this year. It has been making me wonder if I'm missing the boat a bit but I don't think that's the case--I just wouldn't be satisfied with Lacy as a RB1 unless I was getting a high WR, meaning drafting him at the turn of the 1st and 2nd.
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That's what happened to me. My league is a QB-friendly scoring system, so we had 3 QBs and 3 WRs go in the top of the draft. And I guess others just liked Lynch more than Lacy. I had him as #2 overall even in a non-PPR, so this was an utter gold mine for me.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
KellysHeroes said:
I could see it in dynasty but no way in re-draft; I'm not touching him at his current ADP.

Personally I will never again reach for a 2nd yr back,dynasty or redraft. Been burned too many times.
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The bust rate on 2nd year running backs coming off a strong rookie year has got to be the most overlooked thing in fantasy. It's massive, and almost always comes at the expense of a very early pick.

It's interesting that there is a whole saying about "proving it on the field" that people constantly cite in regards to rookie RBs, when 2nd year RBs probably have a higher bust rate than rookies and at a significantly higher cost, no less.
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Just to follow up on this with some recent history....... see Muscle Hamster circa 2013.

 
Vector said:
FreeBaGeL said:
KellysHeroes said:
I could see it in dynasty but no way in re-draft; I'm not touching him at his current ADP.

Personally I will never again reach for a 2nd yr back,dynasty or redraft. Been burned too many times.
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The bust rate on 2nd year running backs coming off a strong rookie year has got to be the most overlooked thing in fantasy. It's massive, and almost always comes at the expense of a very early pick.

It's interesting that there is a whole saying about "proving it on the field" that people constantly cite in regards to rookie RBs, when 2nd year RBs probably have a higher bust rate than rookies and at a significantly higher cost, no less.
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Just to follow up on this with some recent history....... see Muscle Hamster circa 2013.
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you expect him to go on IR?

 
MrSoup said:
But if you like Lacy more than Charles, McCoy, and Peterson, why shouldn't you draft him before them? If you like AJ more than Calvin, why wouldn't you draft AJ before Calvin? Because experts say not to? That's dumb.
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bc you should not like those guys more than the others. you should not expect them to score more. it has nothing to do with what the experts say. there are reasons the experts have those guys higher.

 
No. But his YPC was abysmal before he was hurt. He would have been a bust in any regard.

 
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cvnpoka said:
MrSoup said:
But if you like Lacy more than Charles, McCoy, and Peterson, why shouldn't you draft him before them? If you like AJ more than Calvin, why wouldn't you draft AJ before Calvin? Because experts say not to? That's dumb.
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bc you should not like those guys more than the others. you should not expect them to score more. it has nothing to do with what the experts say. there are reasons the experts have those guys higher.
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this argument could have been used last yr on ppl who took Forte over Martin or Spiller. It's not a compelling argument imo

 
Buffaloes said:
cvnpoka said:
MrSoup said:
But if you like Lacy more than Charles, McCoy, and Peterson, why shouldn't you draft him before them? If you like AJ more than Calvin, why wouldn't you draft AJ before Calvin? Because experts say not to? That's dumb.
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bc you should not like those guys more than the others. you should not expect them to score more. it has nothing to do with what the experts say. there are reasons the experts have those guys higher.
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this argument could have been used last yr on ppl who took Forte over Martin or Spiller. It's not a compelling argument imo
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spiller had all kinds of concerns and martin got hurt and forte had a career yr. hey man, just about any player can finish higher than any other player so i guess there is no reason to even rank them. i just use a dart board. its as compelling as your argument.

 
It was one game, it was Seattle, but Lacy just doesn't look like a special back. He'll get some opportunities because he's in the Green Bay offense, but today not only were his runs not impressive, he got his one goal line opportunity given to Kuhn, and split a lot of time with Starks (15 touches to 9). Absolutely no reason to believe he could be the #1 RB (as opposed to Lynch, who could be).

 
cvnpoka said:
MrSoup said:
But if you like Lacy more than Charles, McCoy, and Peterson, why shouldn't you draft him before them? If you like AJ more than Calvin, why wouldn't you draft AJ before Calvin? Because experts say not to? That's dumb.
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bc you should not like those guys more than the others. you should not expect them to score more. it has nothing to do with what the experts say. there are reasons the experts have those guys higher.
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You should just go auto draft and let the experts decide everything.

 
Possible buy low opportunity in Week 3 for Lacy. Coming off a poor game and injury in Week 1, then Packers play the Jets and visit the Lions. Both good run stuffing teams (last year anyway) then it's a juicy matchup against the Bears (again, it was last year's defense that was poor).

 
Godsbrother said:
I took him 1.06 thinking he was the safe pick. Oof..
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I still see him as safe. Any player (manning, Peterson, anyone) can get hit hard and go through the concussion tests, etc.

Just a really tough opener. Had they opened at home against the Falcons, this would probably be a very different story. The other Packers reflected bad games too. Lacy just happened to be the one that got the hit but come Sunday that could be Brandon Marshall or Andre ellington just as easily.

Off topic but I bet the people REALLY saying OOF this morning are the ones that let Lynch slide to the 2nd round.

 
Crappy game, but geez talk about Chicken Little. Last year's RB4 (Moreno), RB5 (Lynch) and RB9 (Johnson) all had comparable week one scores. This was against the best defense in the league. The Kuhn TD sucked, but I don't believe that's indicative of their game plan at the goal line moving forward. The concussion is scary as is the Bulaga injury but word is that he will be fine and Lacy has 10 days to recover. Take a deep breath and put Larry on ignore for the next 10 days. Good lord.

 
Talk about overreaction...Yeah, Lacy had a bad game on opening night against the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks + a defense that is shaping up to be historically good. Did anyone expect him to come out and drop 180 yds and score two TD's.? Put this game in perspective. Lacy will bounce back probably as soon as week 2 (he has 10 days to get over his concussion) and be without question a top 5 running back going forward.

P.S. The Seattle defense is so good that owners are going to have to think long and hard about playing any rb (and anyone else for that matter) against them.

 
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Saboo said:
Talk about overreaction...Yeah, Lacy had a bad game on opening night against the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks + a defense that is shaping up to be historically good. Did anyone expect him to come out and drop 180 yds and score two TD's.? Put this game in perspective. Lacy will bounce back probably as soon as week 2 (he has 10 days to get over his concussion) and be without question a top 5 running back going forward.

P.S. The Seattle defense is so good that owners are going to have to think long and hard about playing any rb (and anyone else for that matter) against them.
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yea until he sticks his face into the middle of a pile.. Guy literally launched his body into a pile of 6 guys head first... WTF is that? I didn't expect 180 and 2 tds but I did expect him to be involved a little bit more, and what's up with the KUHN 1 yard td.. GB looked like crap big time and the line couldn't block SH** and I will not rant but I did expect 90 and a td with about 3 catches for 25 yards or so

 
Maybe after 2 concussions in one calendar year maybe he will stop thinking he is just a tank that is invincible.. Coach em up Mccarthy you don't jump head first thru DLINEMAN :help: :scared:

 
Lacy 1 overall is looking terrible.. I at least took him 1.5 which was about where he was goin, just a dumb pick by both of us obviously. Charles/shady should have been top 2 unanimously.

 
If you are a Lacy owner, don't panic. I know it sucks to get a start like this out of your 1st rounder, and the concussion on top of it. But Seattle's Defense is nasty. They are going to do this to a lot of teams this year.

 
I still think he's a good pick late in the first. I never considered him over the big 4. If you did, obviously at your own risk.

 
Is the season over already? I thought there were a few more games to go before we could really dive into hindsight.

 
Da Guru said:
ponchsox said:
I still think he's a good pick late in the first. I never considered him over the big 4. If you did, obviously at your own risk.
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Did Lacy look slow last night? Looked like T-Rich.
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I don't think he looked particularly slow, but compared to Marshawn, he looked uncreative. There wasn't a lot of running room but he didn't make guys miss or break many tackles. The best Green Bay run by far was by Starks.

Lacy will have a lot of games where the running lanes are open and he'll probably do fine. But then, so would Starks.

 
Any great fantasy GM will tell you to live and die by your conviction.

I'll admit that my conviction is partially fueled with a bias toward being a contrarian but I didn't expect Lacy to light up the leagues #1 defense by any means...

If he comes back from his concussion 10 days from now, there's still 15 games to prove the haters wrong

 
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this exactly what happened last season in week 1 at SF? Lots of knees jerking here.

I contemplated Lacy at third overall in a redraft as well. Didn't go with him, but he is still a pretty safe RB pick. A game in seattle is pretty much the worst matchup in the NFL right now.

 
Da Guru said:
ponchsox said:
I still think he's a good pick late in the first. I never considered him over the big 4. If you did, obviously at your own risk.
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Did Lacy look slow last night? Looked like T-Rich.
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no. his first 3 carries went for 24 yards. then his oline fell apart with injuries in game and a few days before the game. loosing your starting center and tackle on the road against a good defense isn't going to help your rushing totals. please stop with t-rich comparison already. starks runs were later in the game mostly when the game was out of hand and they weren't expecting runs.

crazy week 1 over reaction.

 
None of the so-called stud RB's have done much so far, Alex smith has more rushing yards than Charles. Too early to get upset about any one of them.

 
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traderallenpoe said:
Where you at Larry!?
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Are you really self-bumping after 4 crappy games and one good one, like this was a good call? It's obvious that Lacy will get some scoring opportunities in that offense. It's equally obvious that he's a mediocre back who shouldn't have been taken #1 overall.

 
CalBear said:
traderallenpoe said:
Where you at Larry!?
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Are you really self-bumping after 4 crappy games and one good one, like this was a good call? It's obvious that Lacy will get some scoring opportunities in that offense. It's equally obvious that he's a mediocre back who shouldn't have been taken #1 overall.
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Do you mean like all the chest thumping that happened prior to last nights game? What about his 8+ypc, 100+ yards, 3/3 receptions and 2 TDs made him look obviously mediocre to you?

 
unckeyherb said:
CalBear said:
traderallenpoe said:
Where you at Larry!?
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Are you really self-bumping after 4 crappy games and one good one, like this was a good call? It's obvious that Lacy will get some scoring opportunities in that offense. It's equally obvious that he's a mediocre back who shouldn't have been taken #1 overall.
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Do you mean like all the chest thumping that happened prior to last nights game? What about his 8+ypc, 100+ yards, 3/3 receptions and 2 TDs made him look obviously mediocre to you?
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James Starks had a game last year with 168 total yards, four receptions and a TD. So what? It's not hard to run when there are gaps all over the place.

This was his first game (out of 5) where he topped 3.5 ypc this year. That's mediocre. Trent Richardson beat that twice in the first four games. Has Eddy Lacy shown he's better than Rashad Jennings or Alfred Morris? No.

 
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