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IDP Spotlight: Aaron Schobel (Group 1) (1 Viewer)

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2008 IDP Spotlight Series

One of Footballguys best assets is our message board community. The IDP Forum here has grown quickly over the past few years and is probably the best place on the internet to discuss, debate and analyze all things related to IDPs. In what we hope to make an annual tradition, the IDP Spotlight series will be a key part of our preseason effort this year. As many of you know from what has been done with offensive players over the years, we consider the Player Spotlight threads the permanent record for analyzing the fantasy prospects of the player in question. This year, we hope to publish IDP Spotlights for approximately 50-60 players, which should account for most of the key IDP starters for this year and possibly years to come.

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Thread Topic: Aaron Schobel, DE, Buffalo Bills

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do most people think Schobel's sack numbers will rebound this year or was last year a sign of things to come?

 
The Man With No Name said:
Rebound47 solo15 asst12 sacks 1 int- he's due for one
Id agree with these numbers. Schobel will greatly benefit from finally having a dominant DT in the middle (Stroud). No more double teaming him. FWIW, I see the other DE in Kelsay having a pretty good year also.
 
I think he will rebound as well.

Certainly should be able to garner 10+ sacks.

I'm not worried about his age in regards to ability - only in regards to injury/recovery/health.

The Bills will offer a steady platform both offensively and defensively for him to get his pass rush on.

The tackles may not be stupendous, as the LBs and DBs behind him are going to chew into those numbers.

Tackles: 33

Assists: 14

Sacks: 12

 
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.

 
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I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore. I'm going to go withSolo 40Assist 8Sack 5Interception 0PD 3ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
He had almost doublt that sack amount last year, and that was with a mediocre DL. He now has a premier DT in Stroud. People will have to put 2 guys on Stroud, so Schobel will get at LEAST what he got last year - guaranteed. :goodposting:
 
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
He had almost doublt that sack amount last year, and that was with a mediocre DL. He now has a premier DT in Stroud. People will have to put 2 guys on Stroud, so Schobel will get at LEAST what he got last year - guaranteed. :rolleyes:
Sorry to disagree but here was his stats for last year45 solo 12 assist 1 fumble recovery 5 Forced Fumbls 0 Interceptions sacks 6.5 Passes defensed 5

 
The big question...was last year a fluke?? Well...Schobel inked a $50mm deal and proceeded to crap down his leg. At age 31, Schobel will be a fun player to debate heading into the '08 season. I believe he'll fall somewhere between his '06 and '07 seasons.

40-15

10 sacks

 
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
He had almost doublt that sack amount last year, and that was with a mediocre DL. He now has a premier DT in Stroud. People will have to put 2 guys on Stroud, so Schobel will get at LEAST what he got last year - guaranteed. :coffee:
Sorry to disagree but here was his stats for last year45 solo 12 assist 1 fumble recovery 5 Forced Fumbls 0 Interceptions sacks 6.5 Passes defensed 5
I stand corrected. Not wure why I thought he had 10 last year... Anyway, with Stroud in the middle, I still think he puts up more than 10 sacks...
 
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
He had almost doublt that sack amount last year, and that was with a mediocre DL. He now has a premier DT in Stroud. People will have to put 2 guys on Stroud, so Schobel will get at LEAST what he got last year - guaranteed. :)
Sorry to disagree but here was his stats for last year45 solo 12 assist 1 fumble recovery 5 Forced Fumbls 0 Interceptions sacks 6.5 Passes defensed 5
I stand corrected. Not wure why I thought he had 10 last year... Anyway, with Stroud in the middle, I still think he puts up more than 10 sacks...
You could be right and I could be wrong - time will tell :coffee:
 
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
I'm not sure he will rebound. He's been down for a couple years now. It could be he is just not the player he used to be. He is very very streaky so its hard to even know when to start him or not anymore.

I'm going to go with

Solo 40

Assist 8

Sack 5

Interception 0

PD 3

ETA The only way I see his numbers going up is if he has a lot of big plays - forced fumbles/recoveries etc.
He had almost doublt that sack amount last year, and that was with a mediocre DL. He now has a premier DT in Stroud. People will have to put 2 guys on Stroud, so Schobel will get at LEAST what he got last year - guaranteed. :)
Sorry to disagree but here was his stats for last year45 solo 12 assist 1 fumble recovery 5 Forced Fumbls 0 Interceptions sacks 6.5 Passes defensed 5
I stand corrected. Not wure why I thought he had 10 last year... Anyway, with Stroud in the middle, I still think he puts up more than 10 sacks...
You could be right and I could be wrong - time will tell ;)
Indeed it will. But the main thing to consider here, is while Schobel didnt have a great year last year, they were absolutely decimated with injuries. This year, with everyone healthy again, that alone should return him to a very respectable level. Add in Stroud in the middle, and they simply must put 2 bodies on him. Doing that will free up the DEs a bit more, meaning better play from both Schobel AND Kelsay. Just a bit of my thoughts, but as you said, time will tell. :)

 
Like a lot of others here, I just can't see how Schobel could fail to have a good year with the addition of Stroud. Stroud will occupy 2 blockers most of the time which will free up Schobel for more tackles and more sacks.

43 solos

19 assists

11 sacks

3 FF

2FR

3 PD

this would make him a top 10 DE in most leagues.

 
I sincerely believe Stroud's affect on Schobel's stats (especially sacks) is being vastly over-rated.

Run-stuffing DT's do not normally get double-teamed when the opposition is passing b/c they offer little threat to develop a pass-rush. The "wide bodies" primarily get double-teamed on running plays when a push needs to be made. When the opposition drops back to pass, Schobel will see a double-team before Stoud will. Heck, Stroud will probably even get yanked in the nickle/dime formations. The LB's (Poz, in particular) will see a much larger cushion with Stroud's presence. If anything, the emergence of McCargo and his ability to create an interior pass-rush will have a bigger effect on Schobel's stat-line over Stroud.

Take a look at the Vikings DE last year. Kevin and Pat Williams are arguably the top DT tandem in the NFL. The Vikings allowed a league-best 74 rushing yards/game and were ranked #2 in yards/carry (3.1). With that being said, Udeze and Edwards led the Vikings DE's with only 5 sacks apiece.

Prior to Stroud moving to BUF, he was teamed with Big John Henderson in JAX. It had nearly no affect on the Jags DE's and their ability to create sacks.

 
Schobel's stats were actually pretty decent the second half of the season. He had 4 sacks and 21 solos in December so I doubt age was much of a factor.

 

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