IDP Spotlight: Terrell Suggs (Group 5) (1 Viewer)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

2008 IDP Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: Terrell Suggs, DE, Baltimore Ravens

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[Aaron Rudnicki]

anyone have some thoughts on Suggs?

 

[SugarNuts]

anyone have some thoughts on Suggs?

Well, the only thoughts I have are that he didnt sign a long term deal. He will be playing for a mega contract this year, so I have a feeling he dominates this year. Im not gonna take a guess with stats, but he is a guy I would target this year. IIRC, he started slow last year not recording a sack in like the 1st 5 games. He then went on to have a pretty monster season from there on. I think he goes all out this year.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Suggs averaged about 10 sacks per season prior to last year, when he only had 5. He is remarkably consistent tackle wise, with 46, 47, 47, and 52 the last four years.

I expect a typical Suggs year with him getting back to the 10 sack area. Solid mid DL1.

50 solos

24 asst

10 sacks

3 FF

2 FR

1 INT

7 PD

 

[Duckboy]

Watch how your league designates him and what the scoring is. Top line DL, middle of the road LB unless big play scoring is in effect.

Playing for a contract is always a motivator, with the bonus of the team trying to reclassify him to get a cheaper deal. I expect a very good year from him, with better tackle numbers than most of the sack specialists.

55 tackles

20 assists

12 sacks

2 FF/FR

5 PD

Top 5 DL.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Where do you rank Suggs among DL going into this season? Top-5, Top-10, or somewhere lower? Does the added time playing LB explain his dropoff in sacks last year? If so, do you think he can get back to double digit sacks or is he more likely to top out around 7 or 8?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Where do you rank Suggs among DL going into this season? Top-5, Top-10, or somewhere lower? Does the added time playing LB explain his dropoff in sacks last year? If so, do you think he can get back to double digit sacks or is he more likely to top out around 7 or 8?

 

[T Bell]

Where do you rank Suggs among DL going into this season? Top-5, Top-10, or somewhere lower? Does the added time playing LB explain his dropoff in sacks last year? If so, do you think he can get back to double digit sacks or is he more likely to top out around 7 or 8?

I'm not aware of any "added time playing LB" last year. Maybe I missed that. It looked to me like a down year for that entire front 7, which meant that more offensive attention could be paid to Suggs. He's certainly top-10 among DE's, with upside that gets him into the top-5 if he returns to form. I like him to return to form with double digit sacks, though nothing earth-shattering, like the 10-11 range.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I'm not aware of any "added time playing LB" last year. Maybe I missed that. It looked to me like a down year for that entire front 7, which meant that more offensive attention could be paid to Suggs.

I couldn't find a link from a quick search and I'm not aware of any data available to chart something like this, but my understanding was that he spent more time at OLB last year than he had in prior years. Back when Adalius Thomas was still on the team, I believe Suggs spent more time playing like a traditional DE. That, along with not having an effective complementary pass rusher like Thomas or Trevor Pryce available for most of the season, likely limited his sack opportunities.

 

[T Bell]

I'm not aware of any "added time playing LB" last year. Maybe I missed that. It looked to me like a down year for that entire front 7, which meant that more offensive attention could be paid to Suggs.

I couldn't find a link from a quick search and I'm not aware of any data available to chart something like this, but my understanding was that he spent more time at OLB last year than he had in prior years. Back when Adalius Thomas was still on the team, I believe Suggs spent more time playing like a traditional DE. That, along with not having an effective complementary pass rusher like Thomas or Trevor Pryce available for most of the season, likely limited his sack opportunities.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't see how you could really tell the difference given that in either event he's rushing from the weak side, and was alternating at various times between being in a two-point and a three-point stance. I just don't know where his role has really changed, and the whole flap about whether he'd officially be designated as a DE or a OLB seemed to be opportunism on the part of the Ravens rather than a true reflection of how he was being used.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't see how you could really tell the difference given that in either event he's rushing from the weak side, and was alternating at various times between being in a two-point and a three-point stance.

you don't think playing OLB vs DE will impact a player's numbers?

 

[T Bell]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't see how you could really tell the difference given that in either event he's rushing from the weak side, and was alternating at various times between being in a two-point and a three-point stance.

you don't think playing OLB vs DE will impact a player's numbers?

That's not what I'm saying at all. I just don't think he was in fact playing a different position last year versus prior years. Again, I'm interested in any information that conflicts with that, but that was my impression.