If Dez Bryant is the first pick in PPR leagues then... (1 Viewer)

[comet909]

I know they say talent always shines thru and rises to the top but it's possible that he ends up on a team that wastes his talent. Either because of poor QB play or no offensive line or a terrible OC. So which team would knock him out of the top spot for you? Or would you draft him regardless and hope for the best?

The only one that really comes to mind for me would be Oakland. Although you'd think that Russel's days are numbered and that would be the biggest road block.

(Four more days... )

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Raiders/Buffalo/Vikings/Eagles

 

[Moonlight_Graham]

Oakland Raiders would be the one team that would cause me not to draft Bryant.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...3&hl=Bryant

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...528445&st=0

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...2&hl=Bryant

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...5&hl=Bryant

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...&hl=spiller

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...47&hl=draft

Also, do a search on Rookie in the title. Jeter23 does a poll on each pick every year.

NONE of those threads answered what his question asked if you read it.

 

[Moonlight_Graham]

Also, do a search on Rookie in the title. Jeter23 does a poll on each pick every year.

NONE of those threads answered what his question asked if you read it.

You're right, sorry about that. Oakland is the only one that would make me think twice about drafting Bryant.

 

[EBF]

I'll put a different spin on it.

Whether or not Bryant goes at 1.01 will be less about Bryant and more about Spiller and Mathews. I know that the early polls say people will take Dez at 1.01, but that could change very quickly if either RB lands in a plum spot.

Imagine Spiller and/or Mathews going to one of these teams:

San Diego

Houston

Seattle

New England

Green Bay

Detroit

I have a hard time believing that everyone who voted for Bryant at 1.01 in those polls could pass on a first round RB in one of these situations with the 1.01 pick.

 

[massraider]

I'll put a different spin on it. Whether or not Bryant goes at 1.01 will be less about Bryant and more about Spiller and Mathews. I know that the early polls say people will take Dez at 1.01, but that could change very quickly if either RB lands in a plum spot. Imagine Spiller and/or Mathews going to one of these teams:San DiegoHoustonSeattleNew EnglandGreen BayDetroitI have a hard time believing that everyone who voted for Bryant at 1.01 in those polls could pass on a first round RB in one of these situations with the 1.01 pick.

Me too.If Matthews goes to San Diego, people are going to pass on him for Dez? People with the first pick (who we can assume don't have a great stable of RB)?

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

I'll put a different spin on it.

Whether or not Bryant goes at 1.01 will be less about Bryant and more about Spiller and Mathews. I know that the early polls say people will take Dez at 1.01, but that could change very quickly if either RB lands in a plum spot.

Imagine Spiller and/or Mathews going to one of these teams:

San Diego

Houston

Seattle

New England

Green Bay

Detroit

I have a hard time believing that everyone who voted for Bryant at 1.01 in those polls could pass on a first round RB in one of these situations with the 1.01 pick.

guess that depends on how you've built your team and if you've been moving aging studs for high draft picks. if done right, any of the top three picks could be owned by team with a solid RB corps looking to add talented depth to their WR corps.

 

[massraider]

guess that depends on how you've built your team and if you've been moving aging studs for high draft picks. if done right, any of the top three picks could be owned by team with a solid RB corps looking to add talented depth to their WR corps.

That's right, but if we are talking about Dez getting taken number one in the polls, does that mean the majority of people holding the #1 rookie pick are brilliant owners with a truckload of RB?I'm gonna go ahead and say 'no'.

 

[FUBAR]

guess that depends on how you've built your team and if you've been moving aging studs for high draft picks. if done right, any of the top three picks could be owned by team with a solid RB corps looking to add talented depth to their WR corps.

That's right, but if we are talking about Dez getting taken number one in the polls, does that mean the majority of people holding the #1 rookie pick are brilliant owners with a truckload of RB?I'm gonna go ahead and say 'no'.

OTOH, many of those with the #1 pick are in a rebuild phase, do you take Spiller or Mathews or Bryant as a cornerstone to a rebuild? Depends on philosophy almost as much as your opinion of their talents. All I know is I have a #1 pick and almost certainly will take Dez. If you care, I don't need a RB but would take him even if I did.

 

[twr]

guess that depends on how you've built your team and if you've been moving aging studs for high draft picks. if done right, any of the top three picks could be owned by team with a solid RB corps looking to add talented depth to their WR corps.

That's right, but if we are talking about Dez getting taken number one in the polls, does that mean the majority of people holding the #1 rookie pick are brilliant owners with a truckload of RB?I'm gonna go ahead and say 'no'.

OTOH, many of those with the #1 pick are in a rebuild phase, do you take Spiller or Mathews or Bryant as a cornerstone to a rebuild? Depends on philosophy almost as much as your opinion of their talents. All I know is I have a #1 pick and almost certainly will take Dez. If you care, I don't need a RB but would take him even if I did.

all depends on the league and the generation of players you play with. older guys tend to value RBs more, where as younger guys tend to value WRs more... you have to judge your league, and find out what THEY think is more valuable... dez and spiller are very talented... spiller will need to go to the right place to succeed. CJ is so great because of 2 reasons... his skills, and the coaching staff he plays for.with that said, WRs bust more often than RBs do... id also lean out on the limb to say its alot harder to aquire a stud RB than it is to luck into a STUD WR... rice was waiver fodder... devin thomas can be had for cheap, meachum could be had for cheap, royal can be had for cheap... want my personal opinion? i would swing for the fences going for dez... but iv liked spiller for 2.5 years running... but i value WRs higher than RBs in PPR leagues.... because RB is easier to contribute as rookies.

 

[Comer]

Oakland,Cleveland,Buffalo,Jacksonville,Miami is now off the list due to the Marshal trade.

 

[FUBAR]

all depends on the league and the generation of players you play with. older guys tend to value RBs more, where as younger guys tend to value WRs more... you have to judge your league, and find out what THEY think is more valuable... dez and spiller are very talented... spiller will need to go to the right place to succeed. CJ is so great because of 2 reasons... his skills, and the coaching staff he plays for.

If I'm picking 1.01 and for whatever reason can't trade down, it doesn't matter at all who my leaguemates think is more valuable.

with that said, WRs bust more often than RBs do... id also lean out on the limb to say its alot harder to aquire a stud RB than it is to luck into a STUD WR... rice was waiver fodder... devin thomas can be had for cheap, meachum could be had for cheap, royal can be had for cheap...

RBs: Out of the big 4, only Peterson was a high 1st round pick. The rest of the top 10 could have been had cheaper (TJones was a high pick but was beyond cheap a few years ago). The majority of the top 20 were not high 1st round draft picks. WRs: at least 3 of the top 4 were high 1sts (Moss, AJ, Fitz), then you have quite a few that you could have lucked into.

Maybe a study has been conducted but off hand I don't think it's that much riskier to take a WR high or harder to find a RB. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems right.

want my personal opinion? i would swing for the fences going for dez... but iv liked spiller for 2.5 years running... but i value WRs higher than RBs in PPR leagues.... because RB is easier to contribute as rookies.

You allude to why I take Dez if building, most likely he isn't all-world next year and you get another high first, then you take the RB.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Dez in Dallas would scare me ... because I think they want to lock up Austin long term as well.