KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I belive Felix Jones won the poll for #4 Rookie... so assuming you had the #4 pick and you have Jones ranked #4, does Dallas Drafting F Jones w/ MBIII already there affect your ranking?
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If F. Jones is Draft by Dallas next Weekend (1 Viewer)
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This is a good topic. I see Dallas drafting either Felix or Chris Johnson. The return ability and a great complement to Barber would make each a good fit. I do think there will be at least one, maybe up to three, RBs taken in better situations. Rice, Forte, Charles, Smith, Choice each could be drafted into a better situation for fantasy. Because of this, I could easily see Rice as 1.04, and one of the others drafted at 1.05. Some fantasy owners will get a steal at that point.
Felix is a polarizing player. Many either love him or think he is overrated from the Razorback offense, and never carrying the load. I suspect that many rookie drafts will differ after the first three picks.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Seems like deja vu, as this is the case every year.
gorf
Footballguy
agreed. my point was that if someone had him at #4 pre-draft (which was the premise), being drafted by dallas shouldn't drop him lower.
been thinking the same thing, if having the 1.3 and seeing Stewart drop down to San Diego, would you still take him??
sorry if that's hijacking the thread. I'd assume it depends on the makeup of your roster, but having to wait on a guy like Turner was tough, and then same thing potentially with Stewart??
honestly, I think whomever Dallas selects will be attractive....as gorf stated.
sorry if that's hijacking the thread. I'd assume it depends on the makeup of your roster, but having to wait on a guy like Turner was tough, and then same thing potentially with Stewart??
honestly, I think whomever Dallas selects will be attractive....as gorf stated.
Lash
Footballguy
true, but waiting on turner meant you KNEW he would be on another team and thus less attractive offense
in stewart's case on san diego he may be the heir apparent
as for the OP question, if Jones is 1.4 on your draft board pre-draft, it'd be a lock to pick him there if he ends up on Dallas
in stewart's case on san diego he may be the heir apparent
as for the OP question, if Jones is 1.4 on your draft board pre-draft, it'd be a lock to pick him there if he ends up on Dallas
No doubt.....unfortunately, it may be 4/5 years down the road, which would be a concern....having to wait tthat long
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
As a Barber owner, if Jones gets drafted by Dallas I will likely try to trade up to #4 to take Jones. If I did not own Barber, I would still likely take Jones #4.
King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
I own the #3 and #4. Hopefully I'll one that can start this year, and one for the future.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
True if the talent is extreme like in the case of ADP last season. Not so much for guys that are "pretty good" like Laurence Maroney, Reggie Bush, and Michael Turner. I don't think Felix is a transcendent player in the mold of ADP or Ladainian. If he's stuck behind Barber, he will be at best what Barber was to Jones. At best.Christo said:
Mustang Man
Footballguy
If it is a dynasty draft without question he should go 1.4 because he could be the starter in Dallas next season . MB3 could end up getting a huge deal from another team if Dallas does not lock him up this year. In a dynasty Jones goes to Dallas it is a perfect fit for him. This season with Barber in the backfield I could see 10-12 carries and if you get points for return yards his value would go up as well.
RaiderBones
Footballguy
I have the 1.04 in a league this year and if Ray Rice who I have ranked higher than Felix Jones anyway gets drafted in to a better situation then it will be Ray Rice at the 1.04 for me.
Reggie Bush??????? Pretty Good?????
Now that I've picked my jaw up from the floor, I'll repeat, always draft talent over situation because the cream rises to the top eventually. And that doesn't only apply to extreme talent.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Nice. Do you think Felix Jones is more talented than Marion Barber?Christo said:
Never thought about it. Probably because MBIII is not available in this year's rookie draft.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I know some are predicting the possability of the top 3 RB's falling, but I could see the top 3 being gone after Chicago or Detroit. Which in my opinion leaves the door open for Felix Jones to go to teams like Detroit, Arizona, Houston or Tampa.
If Felix goes to any of those 4 teams in the 1st then I think it would lock him up (in my opinion) as the #4 rookie pick.
If Felix goes to any of those 4 teams in the 1st then I think it would lock him up (in my opinion) as the #4 rookie pick.
I've been wondering the same...in a 3 keep league with Barber...Since our 1st round is really a 4th round, i would not grab Jones that high, but would make every attempt to nab him later on. I have to admit though, if Dallas takes Johnson or anyone not named McFadden, Mendenhall, Stewart or Rice, I would not really sweat whether I get the rookie they select.
I own Barber, so take this with a grain of salt, but i think he is one of the top 8 RBs in the league talent-wise...so, unless they grab a McFadden, i don't see anyone they could bring in that would relegate barber to the bench (and that includes Stewart and Mendenhal).
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Do you have Rice ahead of Jones?
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
If Felix goes to any pf those teams.. then yeah, hes still #4 in most minds. But almost every Mock I have seen is Dallas taking Jones or Stewart if he falls that far.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Well, your sarcasm isn't supported by facts. Reggie Bush finished 24th last season. Nothing spectacular. He's talented, I'll grant you. Speaking of Grant. Ryan Grant, the castoff from the Giants finished 17th. But yeah, go ahead and keep hawking your nonsense. Bush hasn't shown much for being the most hyped back since Barry Sanders. His reputation far exceeds his skill.Reggie Bush??????? Pretty Good?????Now that I've picked my jaw up from the floor, I'll repeat, always draft talent over situation because the cream rises to the top eventually. And that doesn't only apply to extreme talent.
In my reply I did leave out that I would try to get Jones (in the second sentence), but yes, I do have Rice ahead of Jones. I just get a feeling he Jones is going to be used as a "gamebreaker" like a Norwood (not that it is Jones' fault), whereas Rice is perceived to be able to run inside a little better than Jones and he will get more opportunities. I think talent-wise Jones is a little better, but I think he is going to be a victim of "speedy back" stereotyping early in his career.
Good title of the thread.IF Jones is selected by Dallas next week, he creates a mess in the backfield no different than having Julius J. there.They are similar in their ability, neither one is capable of being "the man" IMO, but each are good enough to command more time than a backup.Killing the FF value of everyone involved.Basically, it would suck if a RB lands in Dallas. But I think they will take TWO D' players myself.Sweet Love said:
The context of the discussion is what people thought about players prior to them ever playing. Not what they did when they finally hit the field. I don't recall anyone thinking that Bush was anything less than a superstar prior to being drafted. In fact, before he was drafted, many people on this board were saying that Bush would be a better pro than AD.Sabertooth said:Well, your sarcasm isn't supported by facts. Reggie Bush finished 24th last season. Nothing spectacular. He's talented, I'll grant you. Speaking of Grant. Ryan Grant, the castoff from the Giants finished 17th. But yeah, go ahead and keep hawking your nonsense. Bush hasn't shown much for being the most hyped back since Barry Sanders. His reputation far exceeds his skill.Reggie Bush??????? Pretty Good?????Now that I've picked my jaw up from the floor, I'll repeat, always draft talent over situation because the cream rises to the top eventually. And that doesn't only apply to extreme talent.
switz
Footballguy
If we are talking about NFL success - Bush has been "pretty good" at best.If we are talking in terms of pure talent - Bush is near tops.The context of the discussion is what people thought about players prior to them ever playing. Not what they did when they finally hit the field. I don't recall anyone thinking that Bush was anything less than a superstar prior to being drafted. In fact, before he was drafted, many people on this board were saying that Bush would be a better pro than AD.Well, your sarcasm isn't supported by facts. Reggie Bush finished 24th last season. Nothing spectacular. He's talented, I'll grant you. Speaking of Grant. Ryan Grant, the castoff from the Giants finished 17th. But yeah, go ahead and keep hawking your nonsense. Bush hasn't shown much for being the most hyped back since Barry Sanders. His reputation far exceeds his skill.Reggie Bush??????? Pretty Good?????Now that I've picked my jaw up from the floor, I'll repeat, always draft talent over situation because the cream rises to the top eventually. And that doesn't only apply to extreme talent.
I agree that you always draft talent over situation. Bush will eventually explode. Why? Because he has all the ability to, he just needs to learn the Pro game.
Same with Felix Jones - I don't doubt he will be one of the best, if not the best, back in this class.
