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IF the season is cut short, how is your league handling payouts? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Deamon
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Good, I'm glad. i really am having a hard time understanding your sentences to perhaps give it another go in the morning when the head clears up.
The issue is what to do with fantasy if the season is cancelled, and you're going off on some weird tangent about crews getting sick and doctors testing.
I look forward to some more clear discussion in the morning. You're new here, you get a pass.
Yes, the topic of this forum is how to handle fantasy payouts if the nfl season is cut short. You responded with "if we don't get a meaningful season, the money goes to next year". So I'm asking you what a meaningful season is, and you went off about what the NFL could do and doctors testing, etc. If the NFL runs 6 games and stops, is that a 'meaningess season' and the fantasy money is all moved to next year? What about 12 games? What about 16? What is the standard for a "meaningful season' in order for you to pay out your fantasy winnings for the year?
How are you helping me?
I'm not beefing, I'm genuinely trying to understand your posts but they are quite confusingly written.
So in your league if the NFL plays 9 games and calls it quits, you will move all the money to next year. If the NFL plays 10 games, then you will divide the money up in a certain way?
The Frankman
Footballguy
Not to be off topic, but can you think about what you want to say or edit you posts @Blackbear? You're making double and triple posts here and it's hard to understand.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
If we know they are going to play 10 games, our 3 week playoffs will start in week 8. If they play 11, playoffs begin in week 9, If they play 12, it's week 10, etc. If they play 16 games our playoffs start as normal in week 14. Less than 10 games but more than 6, it will be decided by power rank first, then total points. Less than 7 games and we cancel the season and all money is applied to next year. That is if MFL gives a refund on anything less than 7 games, which I believe is the case.
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habman
Footballguy
What if the season ends abrubtly? Let's say they have played 10 games and suddenly they call it quits. Would you consider it viable to retroactively use the season standings up to week 7 then use the lineups already submitted to run your playoffs from week 8 to 10 to determine a playoff winner? Not saying to do it just wondering if anyone's thought about this scenario.
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Genester
Footballguy
So, this is possible, as @habman said, provided you know in advance when the season will end. Lets assume this is the case. Would you be worried about:
1. Uneven schedule (assuming you don't have an all-play scenario)?
2. Uneven number of bye weeks (i.e. for some in the regular season the star players didn't have byes, for others they did... even more interestingly, how do you handle byes in play-offs - isn't that putting some teams at a huge disadvantage?)
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Valid points. Perhaps there won't be any bye weeks if it's a short season? If there is and it's during our playoffs, we could just say anything less than a 16 game NFL season we use power ranking then total points as long as at least 7 games are played. Anything less than that cancel and apply to next year.Genester said:
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I've thought about this some more and I don't think it would be fair if someone had a player on a bye week during our playoffs. So, I'm now suggesting this.
Anything less than 16 games but more than 6 games, we decide by power rank first then total points. Less than 7 games and we cancel the season and all money is applied to next year. That is if MFL gives a refund on anything less than 7 games, which I believe is the case.
Anything less than 16 games but more than 6 games, we decide by power rank first then total points. Less than 7 games and we cancel the season and all money is applied to next year. That is if MFL gives a refund on anything less than 7 games, which I believe is the case.
Genester
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
MFL's is pretty good. I like their "alternate power rank" best though.
Or you could just use the ALL PLAY record and take matchups right out of it.
habman
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
What setting was it that gives points for your entire team, including your bench, not just your starting lineup?
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habman
Footballguy
I agree. The power rank includes bench points. All play is your record assuming you play every team in a given week using your starting lineup for that week. I like it better than power rank because it doesn’t include bench points and I like it better than total points because it rewards consistency from week to week.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
You're right, I guess I don't. Never used it. I thought it meant scoring for all the players on your team. What was that again?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
This is what I just sent out for a dynasty league I run. I will do something similar for our redraft league without the draft language:
1. If the season does not start, we will roll all league fees over to the 2021 season. I will randomize the rookie draft order and it will be a snake draft rather than a straight draft. I think this is the fairest way to do it, rather than just keep the draft order from this season which would heavily favor teams that drafted at the top.
2. If there are less than 8 games played, we will roll all league fees over to the 2021 season. I will randomize the rookie draft order and it will be a snake draft rather than a straight draft.
3. If there are 8 or more games played but less than a full 13 games, we will roll all league fees over to the 2021 season. The rookie draft will be based on the team’s records and will be a straight draft as usual.
4. If there are 13 or more games played but less than a full 16 games, we will pay out division winners, teams that would have qualified for the wildcard slots and the team with the most points. All remaining league fees will be pushed and paid to the winners of the 2021 season (thus doubling the first, second and third place prizes) and all teams will pay their 2021 fees as normal. The rookie draft will be based on the team’s records and will be a straight draft as usual.
5. If all 16 games are played. Everything is normal.
1. If the season does not start, we will roll all league fees over to the 2021 season. I will randomize the rookie draft order and it will be a snake draft rather than a straight draft. I think this is the fairest way to do it, rather than just keep the draft order from this season which would heavily favor teams that drafted at the top.
2. If there are less than 8 games played, we will roll all league fees over to the 2021 season. I will randomize the rookie draft order and it will be a snake draft rather than a straight draft.
3. If there are 8 or more games played but less than a full 13 games, we will roll all league fees over to the 2021 season. The rookie draft will be based on the team’s records and will be a straight draft as usual.
4. If there are 13 or more games played but less than a full 16 games, we will pay out division winners, teams that would have qualified for the wildcard slots and the team with the most points. All remaining league fees will be pushed and paid to the winners of the 2021 season (thus doubling the first, second and third place prizes) and all teams will pay their 2021 fees as normal. The rookie draft will be based on the team’s records and will be a straight draft as usual.
5. If all 16 games are played. Everything is normal.
habman
Footballguy
Obviously every league does dynasty different. Do you have contracts? If so in situations 1, 2 or 3 (no season) are you advancing contracts one season or not. We have contract length tied with salary so some contracts are good (owners would not want contracts advanced) while other contracts are bad (owners would want to advance the contracts). Just trying to get an idea how other leagues are handling this.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
We do not have contracts.
ETA: imo however if you're saying there's no season I would think the contract should be carried over to the nest season as well.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
I am commish of a 96 team league made up of eight 12-team leagues and we are supposed to disband after this 2020 jackpot season. Buyins were only ~$60 per season but now there is over $23k in the kitty for this last year.
During our rookie/FA draft in May I tried to engage in discussions while everyone was active but got crickets. Those who did respond thought it was too premature to talk about it. Probably some truth to that but my greatest fear is to not have these things laid out clearly beforehand and then have to improvise on the fly.
I agree these things need talked about more in our leagues. I'm probably going to start doing a bunch of informal polls in our league to gauge where people stand on these contingencies.
We are allowing owners to decide for each contract if they want the year to count (older guys that are at the end of their career and don't want to be on the hook for another year) or not (younger guys that have a good contract and don't want the year to count because it wasn't a "counting" season).
This way each individual can decide what best fits them rather than trying to force a once size fits all solution.
Best Ball in a way? Power Rank uses your bench points as a small contributor to your ranking.
All play just takes all matchups out of it. You in theory play every single other franchise every week.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah seriously looking forward to it being done this year. I took over for a guy during the 2017 season so it was all setup already and I am just trying to bring it home. I fear we will push until 2021.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I wouldn't mind hearing some advice from people here about this 96 team league that I commission and that has been built to disband after a jackpot final season that is supposed to be 2020. I'll narrow down my focus of what I'm asking here since it's a convoluted league and I don't want to flood this thread too much but basically I'm thinking about payouts in light of our format. Of course I am looking for my own league mates input and I have told them I don't want to act unilaterally on any of this. I will be sending out polls and there *has* been a bit of conversation about all this on our internal message board and on chat apps, but our format is really unique and problematic. And I value y'alls opinion. So here are the brief format issues that are relevant to how we might payout this year:
Eight 12 team leagues that each operate independently other than the league playoffs that (normally) go weeks 15 and 16 and consist of the top 4 teams from each of the 8 subleagues combining into a 2 week points race, with the top 12/32 getting paid out (in years 2015 to 2019 =$1000 for 1st and $55 for 12th). But the payouts for this final jackpot year 2020 total $23k and pay 25/32 spots with $300 for 25th and a cool $5000 for 1st. Money is in escrow in Leaguesafe.
Each subleague plays H2H weeks 1-13 and top 2 teams from each auto advance past week 14 into the big dance. Seeds 3-6 have a 1 week playoff in week 14 to determine which 2/4 teams advance to the dance. It is FFPC rules with victory points for the regular season.
So.
I'm pretty sure the consensus with my leaguemates is going to be that we really, really want to end this thing in 2020 and not be forced to bump it to 2021. And I agree. But we may not have a choice in the matter.
People aren't going to want to alter the format, but as commish I'm terrified of doing so in real time as a reaction to the news that might happen. I'd rather talk about it now.
If we have to bump to 2021 we will likely have to do another rookie draft but I'm not sure doing the normal FFPC cutdown to 16 would go down so well. It never does. Imagine tracking down 73 owners. You can own multiple teams as long as they're not in the same subleague. I have 5.
So to anyone that is gracious enough to read this long post and has some advice, good or not, I'd appreciate it.
If the 2020 season is abridged I don't know how we would possibly alter our in season format unless we agreed to chop the escrow pot to the top 4 seeds at some point after x weeks. Which would be like $700 for 1 and 2 seeds and maybe $400 for 3 and 4s. And would make me puke in my mouth. Since I am back to back champion and am gunning for multiple top 5 finishes in the jackpot season. Maybe take down like 8 grand.
TLDR version = this sucks and I have zero faith that this season goes off in a practical way for my league. Advice? Thanks in advance.
Eight 12 team leagues that each operate independently other than the league playoffs that (normally) go weeks 15 and 16 and consist of the top 4 teams from each of the 8 subleagues combining into a 2 week points race, with the top 12/32 getting paid out (in years 2015 to 2019 =$1000 for 1st and $55 for 12th). But the payouts for this final jackpot year 2020 total $23k and pay 25/32 spots with $300 for 25th and a cool $5000 for 1st. Money is in escrow in Leaguesafe.
Each subleague plays H2H weeks 1-13 and top 2 teams from each auto advance past week 14 into the big dance. Seeds 3-6 have a 1 week playoff in week 14 to determine which 2/4 teams advance to the dance. It is FFPC rules with victory points for the regular season.
So.
I'm pretty sure the consensus with my leaguemates is going to be that we really, really want to end this thing in 2020 and not be forced to bump it to 2021. And I agree. But we may not have a choice in the matter.
People aren't going to want to alter the format, but as commish I'm terrified of doing so in real time as a reaction to the news that might happen. I'd rather talk about it now.
If we have to bump to 2021 we will likely have to do another rookie draft but I'm not sure doing the normal FFPC cutdown to 16 would go down so well. It never does. Imagine tracking down 73 owners. You can own multiple teams as long as they're not in the same subleague. I have 5.
So to anyone that is gracious enough to read this long post and has some advice, good or not, I'd appreciate it.
If the 2020 season is abridged I don't know how we would possibly alter our in season format unless we agreed to chop the escrow pot to the top 4 seeds at some point after x weeks. Which would be like $700 for 1 and 2 seeds and maybe $400 for 3 and 4s. And would make me puke in my mouth. Since I am back to back champion and am gunning for multiple top 5 finishes in the jackpot season. Maybe take down like 8 grand.
TLDR version = this sucks and I have zero faith that this season goes off in a practical way for my league. Advice? Thanks in advance.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
If the NFL has to cut the season short after x weeks, another option might be to pay out according to VPs but also according to the years 2015 to 2019 and make everybody pay for one more 2021 season. But that also would likely go over like a lead balloon. Might even lose a few owners.
No matter how much everyone wants this to be the payout year it just might not be feasible unless there are some huge concessions. The first thing you need to do is figure out what makes this season "count". I think everyone can agree that if you play 3 games (just picking a low number) that it shouldn't be paid out as that is not a representative sample of a season. Because of this I think you must get a majority ruling on the following things:
- What makes a season? How many games have to be played to be a representative sample for a season. My league has decided on 10 games or more, however we do not have playoffs.
- Next I think you must have a consensus on whether or not you must have playoffs to make the payouts. This is probably the most difficult thing to decide especially with the possibility of the NFL just shutting down with little to no notice.
- Based on answers to the first two bullets you have to decide payouts.
If the season is less than 10 games you roll the season over (keep the records accrued to that point and add them to next season). That way teams that performed well this year don't just lose it. You do get credit for it. Roll over payouts and everyone is paid up already. You get 1-1/2 seasons for the price of one.
Draft - you only have to worry if your league plays less than 10 games. If that is the case I think the draft should be a random order and a snake style. Teams are already getting the benefit (reward) of carrying over their records and you haven't played enough games to do NFL style draft. I know it's not ideal to have the luck of the draw affect the draft but it is theoretically for only one year since it would be your jackpot season. The actual impact should be minimal as most rookies have little to no impact in year 1 anyway.
Payout - I have no ideas since you have such a complicated payouts system. I think that decision has to be yours and the team owners. An outsider really doesn't understand the nuances of that much complication.
Hope this helps.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
You're talking to a bear. Quite frankly, I'm impressed he is so articulate. I've usually only seen them wave a paw, or snort as a form of communication.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
My league has had a contingency plan since it started over ten years ago -
1-4 weeks played = money back
4-9 weeks = split between all play points/nfl play points pay out (1st 25%, 2nd 12.5%, 3rd 7.5%, 4th 5%)
10+ = shorted season with regular playoffs unless the end of season is cut short then revert to 4-9 weeks
1-4 weeks played = money back
4-9 weeks = split between all play points/nfl play points pay out (1st 25%, 2nd 12.5%, 3rd 7.5%, 4th 5%)
10+ = shorted season with regular playoffs unless the end of season is cut short then revert to 4-9 weeks
nittanylion
Footballguy
Anyone have anything new to add?
nittanylion
Footballguy
@Joe Bryant
There's a whole group of Staff dedicated to Dynasty. Would it be possible for you to rally them ASAP and get some thoughtful material generated towards Commisssioners/Leagues regarding general guidelines suggestions for how Dynasty League Commissioners might go about handling their Leagues through the Covid-impacted 2020 Season?
Personally, I'm a bit frustrated right now. I'm dealing with some serious family health issues, and it's tough finding free time, much less time to think clearly about how I'm going to handle this for the League I run (going into it's 20th Season, fwiw). Back in May, when I issued the 2020 State of the League, I told everyone we were going into a holding pattern, akin to what we did during the 2011 work stoppage, and 'when the NFL moves, we move'....but the calendar window is starting to close, and I have to start rolling out 2020. Cant have the August Rookie/UFA Draft without having RFA (which under normal circumstances, takes place after the NFL Draft). Can't have RFA without opening up the League for business (trading), which under normal circumstances, starts before RFA. Can't have trading without 2020 guidelines in place, especially pertaining to Contracts (years, not salaries, in our case) and a definitive plan as to how the 2021 Rookie Draft will be conducted, as 2021 Draft Picks are part of our Leagues tradeable currency. I had high hopes for this Thread, but there hasn't been a new reply for almost 2 weeks. This is a thread that I thought would be so hot it wouldn't leave page 1 for well into the start of the Season. As you were present in this Thread, and commented above, I thought that Staff content/articles might start rolling out in the following days, but it's been almost a month now, and I haven't seen anything yet that I'm aware of. I'm aware that the FBG Staff has at least a few Dynasty Leagues going. Surely the Commissioners and League mates of those Leagues have already made decisions about how to handle things. Wouldn't it be a good idea to pass those vetted, discussed and approved ideas along to the community? Along with the how's and why's of how they decided these were the options/suggestions/guidelines/rules they were going to use for their Staff Leagues?
One or more 'For Dynasty Commissioners: FBG's guidelines, rules and options suggestions for how to run your League during a covid-impacted Season' would really be helpful right about now. It's great to see all the content being generated right now, but, at least to me, content about this issue is a pretty hot-button thing, and ought to have some priority.
Please, and thank you.
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Yes, Sigmund is working on an article along this line for all leagues. Although to be honest, there are tons of super smart folks here that likely have great ideas.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Anyone who either runs and/or plays in a Contract Dynasty League (Years only, NOT Salaries), I'd be most grateful if you'd take the time to narrate how your League(s) is/are handling 2020.
I'll start with what I'm either doing, or considering doing, with the window shrinking every day that I have to put things in place to open the League Year and get offseason tasks completed before the NFL Season begins:
The League I run is a local 14-Team $$$ League, Super Flex with 20-man Rosters and a 50 Year Contract Cap. When Contracts/Cuts are due before the NFL Season starts, all Teams must have 20 Players under Contract, but once the Season has started Rosters can swell/shrink over/under 20 Players, as long as an Owner has Cap space. Players picked up on Waivers are automatically assigned 1-Year Contracts, with the Owner holding on to their Free Agent rights for the following Season's RFA.
We already have unlimited IR, with the caveat that the Player must be on an NFL IR in order to be placed on our IR. Years still count against the Contract Cap. I will be expanding that parameter to include Players impacted by COVID.
We have a Rookie Taxi Squad already in place that can hold up to 5 Players, depending on what they are: RB/WR/TE can be held on Taxi Squad for up to 2 Years, after which they must be assigned a Contract or dropped prior to the Rookie/UFA Draft. QB's can be kept on TS for 3 Years, but for every QB on TS, you must give up 1 additional TS spot, so full Taxi Squads comprise 3-5 Players. I will likely expand Taxi Squads to include any Rookies drafted this year.
Unfortunately, we still run a weekly worst-to-first Waiver Wire, rather than Blind Bidding (one of the perils of a 20-year old League with many Owners who started playing FF in the late-80's, early 90's, haha - some old habits die hard!). However, ours doesn't start until after Week 3, basically to allow Teams to 'find their level', rather than getting lucky by losing in Week 1. I'll probably have to consider starting the Waiver Wire in Week 1. There is no charge to add, just that if you go below/above 20 Players, you get moved to the back of the line. Probably going to have to address that as well.
In addition, I am going to implement an 'all hands on deck' approach, where Owners can use Taxi Squad Players in their Starting Lineups without having to assign them a Contract, if necessity dictates, to offer additional competitive options along with a usually pretty barren Waiver Wire.
I'll likely shift from H2H to All-Play, using only Starting Lineups (no bench scoring), so that in the event of a shortened Season, we won't run into schedule issues (we normally have a 13-Week Season, play every other Team 1 time).
I instituted a 7-Team Playoff Format several Seasons ago when we were a 16-Team League, where the 7th Seed only gets paid out if they win their 1st Round Playoff Game. In the event of a shortened Season, we will not have Playoffs, but pay out 1st-6th place from All-Play/Points (decimal scoring), and eliminate the 7th Seed.
As only 1 Team has a PK under Contract right now (Lutz/1), I'm moving to Team Kickers for this Season, possibly making this permanent next Season, because PK are a pain in the butt, but likely aren't going away.
Probably going to hold a lottery for the Rookie/UFA Draft Order if the Season gets cancelled, or shortened significantly.
Will allow Owners to decide whether Contracts toll or not prior to the start of the 2021 Season.
Considering not requiring Owners to assign Contracts at all, until 2021, in effect an uncapped Year.
Will probably modify League Fees for 2020, if I have them at all (Franchise Fee is $350). It's a local League played by a tight-knit group, and I collect and distribute at the end, so no need to worry about rollovers/refunds. I'll eat the MFL Fee if it comes down to it - thanks to FBG's and Early Bird, it's *only* $60.
If I think of anything else, I'll edit it in here.
TIA for your contributions!
I'll start with what I'm either doing, or considering doing, with the window shrinking every day that I have to put things in place to open the League Year and get offseason tasks completed before the NFL Season begins:
The League I run is a local 14-Team $$$ League, Super Flex with 20-man Rosters and a 50 Year Contract Cap. When Contracts/Cuts are due before the NFL Season starts, all Teams must have 20 Players under Contract, but once the Season has started Rosters can swell/shrink over/under 20 Players, as long as an Owner has Cap space. Players picked up on Waivers are automatically assigned 1-Year Contracts, with the Owner holding on to their Free Agent rights for the following Season's RFA.
We already have unlimited IR, with the caveat that the Player must be on an NFL IR in order to be placed on our IR. Years still count against the Contract Cap. I will be expanding that parameter to include Players impacted by COVID.
We have a Rookie Taxi Squad already in place that can hold up to 5 Players, depending on what they are: RB/WR/TE can be held on Taxi Squad for up to 2 Years, after which they must be assigned a Contract or dropped prior to the Rookie/UFA Draft. QB's can be kept on TS for 3 Years, but for every QB on TS, you must give up 1 additional TS spot, so full Taxi Squads comprise 3-5 Players. I will likely expand Taxi Squads to include any Rookies drafted this year.
Unfortunately, we still run a weekly worst-to-first Waiver Wire, rather than Blind Bidding (one of the perils of a 20-year old League with many Owners who started playing FF in the late-80's, early 90's, haha - some old habits die hard!). However, ours doesn't start until after Week 3, basically to allow Teams to 'find their level', rather than getting lucky by losing in Week 1. I'll probably have to consider starting the Waiver Wire in Week 1. There is no charge to add, just that if you go below/above 20 Players, you get moved to the back of the line. Probably going to have to address that as well.
In addition, I am going to implement an 'all hands on deck' approach, where Owners can use Taxi Squad Players in their Starting Lineups without having to assign them a Contract, if necessity dictates, to offer additional competitive options along with a usually pretty barren Waiver Wire.
I'll likely shift from H2H to All-Play, using only Starting Lineups (no bench scoring), so that in the event of a shortened Season, we won't run into schedule issues (we normally have a 13-Week Season, play every other Team 1 time).
I instituted a 7-Team Playoff Format several Seasons ago when we were a 16-Team League, where the 7th Seed only gets paid out if they win their 1st Round Playoff Game. In the event of a shortened Season, we will not have Playoffs, but pay out 1st-6th place from All-Play/Points (decimal scoring), and eliminate the 7th Seed.
As only 1 Team has a PK under Contract right now (Lutz/1), I'm moving to Team Kickers for this Season, possibly making this permanent next Season, because PK are a pain in the butt, but likely aren't going away.
Probably going to hold a lottery for the Rookie/UFA Draft Order if the Season gets cancelled, or shortened significantly.
Will allow Owners to decide whether Contracts toll or not prior to the start of the 2021 Season.
Considering not requiring Owners to assign Contracts at all, until 2021, in effect an uncapped Year.
Will probably modify League Fees for 2020, if I have them at all (Franchise Fee is $350). It's a local League played by a tight-knit group, and I collect and distribute at the end, so no need to worry about rollovers/refunds. I'll eat the MFL Fee if it comes down to it - thanks to FBG's and Early Bird, it's *only* $60.
If I think of anything else, I'll edit it in here.
TIA for your contributions!
My contract league is a bit simpler than yours, but I've pitched the idea of allowing you to add one year to six players if the season is postponed or cut short. That way you can at least partially recover the year lost for your key players for the extraordinary circumstance. We have 22 man rosters.
Also pitching paying out half the pot based on total points for the top 3 spots on a 25-15-10 basis and carrying over the rest to next year if we don't have a full season, in my keeper/dynasty leagues. This way 2020 isn't a total loss and next year gets a bigger pot to play for. You also get 2 drafts to build your team, though most of it comes this year.
Also pitching paying out half the pot based on total points for the top 3 spots on a 25-15-10 basis and carrying over the rest to next year if we don't have a full season, in my keeper/dynasty leagues. This way 2020 isn't a total loss and next year gets a bigger pot to play for. You also get 2 drafts to build your team, though most of it comes this year.
We leave the contract year counting decision to the owner of the team. We are going for max flexibility because this is such a fluid situation and there is no one way fits all solution. So it is up to the owner if their players contract year counts or not. It is on a per player basis. So you may have someone like Tom Brady where he is old so you want this year to count so you aren't stuck with another year. On the opposite side you might have CMC and shouldn't be harmed by a shortened year taking away your control so you don't have that year count.
This way each owner is in charge of their own path with maximum flexibility. Everyone likes the idea and it was agreed to with 100% buy in.
nittanylion
Footballguy
I'd be interested in knowing if any Dynasty Leagues have made the decision to freeze everything until 2021...
As I posted above, I have yet to open my League for business/trading, and have delayed traditional May RFA. Rookie/FA Draft usually in August, so haven't crossed that bridge yet...but the window is closing each day, as RFA usually takes 3-4 weeks, and I want to give guys some time before that for business/trading and between RFA and the Rookie/FA draft for the same...
Before I give them the 2020 C19 Concessions and Contingency Plans Rollout, I'm going to float the idea of putting 2020 on hold until 2021.
Putting that Rollout together was a nightmare. I had to put together plans for:
1. General protocols for C19 complications
2. What to do if there's no 2020 NFL Season
3. What to do if 7 games or less
4. What to do if more than 7 games, but no ability to do a Playoff Tournament/Championship Game
What a beating
. I fully believe the NFL Season is going to be a clusterf***, based on how it's been handled so far. No way it goes off without several hitches.
I updated everything in the spring: Rosters, Contracts, Fantasy Bucks, Draft Order, RFA's, etc...just like normal, so everyone has had up-to-date info for almost 3 months.
Since everyone had all of 2019 to prepare for 2020 RFA, we could probably conduct it, (or not)...
I think it's almost mandatory that we at least hold our Rookie Draft/UFA Draft, regardless...
Owners submit Contracts(years) and Cuts right before the start of the NFL Season under normal circumstances. Thinking about having them do that in the Spring of 2021 instead, considering that I'm going to give every Owner the choice as to whether Contracts(years) toll or not for all their Players already under Contract (years)...
So we'd have (or not have) RFA, we'd have our Rookie/Free Agent Draft, not play the Season, and push all Contract and Cut decisions to Spring 2021.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks!
As I posted above, I have yet to open my League for business/trading, and have delayed traditional May RFA. Rookie/FA Draft usually in August, so haven't crossed that bridge yet...but the window is closing each day, as RFA usually takes 3-4 weeks, and I want to give guys some time before that for business/trading and between RFA and the Rookie/FA draft for the same...
Before I give them the 2020 C19 Concessions and Contingency Plans Rollout, I'm going to float the idea of putting 2020 on hold until 2021.
Putting that Rollout together was a nightmare. I had to put together plans for:
1. General protocols for C19 complications
2. What to do if there's no 2020 NFL Season
3. What to do if 7 games or less
4. What to do if more than 7 games, but no ability to do a Playoff Tournament/Championship Game
What a beating
. I fully believe the NFL Season is going to be a clusterf***, based on how it's been handled so far. No way it goes off without several hitches.I updated everything in the spring: Rosters, Contracts, Fantasy Bucks, Draft Order, RFA's, etc...just like normal, so everyone has had up-to-date info for almost 3 months.
Since everyone had all of 2019 to prepare for 2020 RFA, we could probably conduct it, (or not)...
I think it's almost mandatory that we at least hold our Rookie Draft/UFA Draft, regardless...
Owners submit Contracts(years) and Cuts right before the start of the NFL Season under normal circumstances. Thinking about having them do that in the Spring of 2021 instead, considering that I'm going to give every Owner the choice as to whether Contracts(years) toll or not for all their Players already under Contract (years)...
So we'd have (or not have) RFA, we'd have our Rookie/Free Agent Draft, not play the Season, and push all Contract and Cut decisions to Spring 2021.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks!
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Here is what I posted in my leagueI'd be interested in knowing if any Dynasty Leagues have made the decision to freeze everything until 2021...
As I posted above, I have yet to open my League for business/trading, and have delayed traditional May RFA. Rookie/FA Draft usually in August, so haven't crossed that bridge yet...but the window is closing each day, as RFA usually takes 3-4 weeks, and I want to give guys some time before that for business/trading and between RFA and the Rookie/FA draft for the same...
Before I give them the 2020 C19 Concessions and Contingency Plans Rollout, I'm going to float the idea of putting 2020 on hold until 2021.
Putting that Rollout together was a nightmare. I had to put together plans for:
1. General protocols for C19 complications
2. What to do if there's no 2020 NFL Season
3. What to do if 7 games or less
4. What to do if more than 7 games, but no ability to do a Playoff Tournament/Championship Game
What a beating
I updated everything in the spring: Rosters, Contracts, Fantasy Bucks, Draft Order, RFA's, etc...just like normal, so everyone has had up-to-date info for almost 3 months.
Since everyone had all of 2019 to prepare for 2020 RFA, we could probably conduct it, (or not)...
I think it's almost mandatory that we at least hold our Rookie Draft/UFA Draft, regardless...
Owners submit Contracts(years) and Cuts right before the start of the NFL Season under normal circumstances. Thinking about having them do that in the Spring of 2021 instead, considering that I'm going to give every Owner the choice as to whether Contracts(years) toll or not for all their Players already under Contract (years)...
So we'd have (or not have) RFA, we'd have our Rookie/Free Agent Draft, not play the Season, and push all Contract and Cut decisions to Spring 2021.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks!
I've thought about this some more and I don't think it would be fair if someone had a player on a bye week during our playoffs. So, I'm now suggesting this.
Anything less than 16 games but more than 6 games, we decide by power rank first then total points. Less than 7 games and we cancel the season and all money is applied to next year. That is if MFL gives a refund on anything less than 7 games, which I believe is the case.
We don't do playoffs so it was easier to come up with what makes a season and what doesn't. We went with 10 games or more. So if that happens we payout and play just like any other full season. However, if it is less than 10 games then the season will get rolled over to next year. The records/points will all get transferred over and next year will be like a season an a half. If it is that way, it will also be up to the owner if the contract year counts or not for each individual player. We are giving max flexibility to the owners so nobody gets screwed over in a one size fits all solution. Everyone is happy with this approach.I'd be interested in knowing if any Dynasty Leagues have made the decision to freeze everything until 2021...
As I posted above, I have yet to open my League for business/trading, and have delayed traditional May RFA. Rookie/FA Draft usually in August, so haven't crossed that bridge yet...but the window is closing each day, as RFA usually takes 3-4 weeks, and I want to give guys some time before that for business/trading and between RFA and the Rookie/FA draft for the same...
Before I give them the 2020 C19 Concessions and Contingency Plans Rollout, I'm going to float the idea of putting 2020 on hold until 2021.
Putting that Rollout together was a nightmare. I had to put together plans for:
1. General protocols for C19 complications
2. What to do if there's no 2020 NFL Season
3. What to do if 7 games or less
4. What to do if more than 7 games, but no ability to do a Playoff Tournament/Championship Game
What a beating
I updated everything in the spring: Rosters, Contracts, Fantasy Bucks, Draft Order, RFA's, etc...just like normal, so everyone has had up-to-date info for almost 3 months.
Since everyone had all of 2019 to prepare for 2020 RFA, we could probably conduct it, (or not)...
I think it's almost mandatory that we at least hold our Rookie Draft/UFA Draft, regardless...
Owners submit Contracts(years) and Cuts right before the start of the NFL Season under normal circumstances. Thinking about having them do that in the Spring of 2021 instead, considering that I'm going to give every Owner the choice as to whether Contracts(years) toll or not for all their Players already under Contract (years)...
So we'd have (or not have) RFA, we'd have our Rookie/Free Agent Draft, not play the Season, and push all Contract and Cut decisions to Spring 2021.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks!
I'm going to suggest to my league that a 7-game season will represent a full season (over half the games of a normal season and no refund from MFL). If the NFL season ends early with no warning, that will be the end of the season and we'll award by current seed. If we have warning then we'll immediately go to playoffs for however many weeks remain (1,2,3). If the season ends before 7 games, then we'll call it a lost season and use PF to determine next year's rookie draft order.
No pro-rating of league fees or anything silly like that. We're either playing or we're not. We've been doing this long enough to understand this season will have challenges and it won't necessarily be equitable, even though we'll do our best to try to make it so.
No pro-rating of league fees or anything silly like that. We're either playing or we're not. We've been doing this long enough to understand this season will have challenges and it won't necessarily be equitable, even though we'll do our best to try to make it so.
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Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
in my 25+ years running auction/salary/keeper league i stayed away from having IR spots to keep the weekly transactions and annual draft as active and meaningful as possible. but as soon as the COVID IR news dropped, we added one IR spot specifically for players who are designated to be IR/COVID. the assumption is (more so the hope is) most players going into this designation hopefully don't get fully sick and will recover quickly.
the new wrinkle to 2020 season now is players who opt out for the season. we have three year running contracts with salary cap implications, so owners will get screwed if one of their key players opt out. So far I saw only Goodwin opted out on the offensive side and we're not IDP.
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