Blackjacks
Footballguy
Just wanting to get an opinion. 2 horrible teams here but they are both NFL teams. The Pats are GRET but could they beat a merged team? Let me hear your thoughts just for fun.
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If we put the Dolphins and the Jets together (1 Viewer)
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ultramattman
Footballguy
As long as the Jetphins can play all 22 starters at the same time.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
No way, No quarterback.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Patriots 49
Jetphins 17
Jetphins 17
Are Cameron and Mangini combined, or are they co-coaches? Either way, it ain't pretty.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
What if we made it the whole AFC EAST and added in the Bills?
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
If you added the Bills yes.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Still no quarterback.
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Trent Edwards > JP Losman >Kellen Clemens > Chad Pennington > Cleo Lemon > John Beck
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
That score was assuming no head coach.If they went with both coaches
ual coaches : Cam CamerginiPatriots 67Jetphins 3.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
The Jelphins would be very bad.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Give Buffalo Laverneus Coles, Ellis and a couple DBs from the Jets and you'd have a pretty strong team. No participation from the Dolphins required.
Panzer
Footballguy
that pretty much sums up the dolphins' season so far
QB-- JP Losman, Chad Pennington, Trent Edwards
RB-- Marshawn Lynch, Leon Washington
RB-- Ronnie Brown (IR), Ryan Neufield
WR-- Lee Evans, Laveranues Coles, Ted Ginn JR.
WR-- Jerricho Cotchery, Josh Reed, Marty Booker
TE-- Chris Baker, Robert Royal
OT--Jason Peters, LJ Shelton, Langston Walker
OT--Vernon Carey, D'Brickshaw Ferguson
G--Rex Hadnot, Brandon Moore
G--Derrick Dockery, Adrian Clarke
C--Nick Mangold, Melvin Fowler
DT--Vonnie Holliday, Kyle Williams, Larry Triplett
DT--Dewayne Robertson, Keith Traylor
DE--Aaron Schobel, Shaun Ellis
DE--Jason Taylor, Kenyon Coleman
OLB--David Harris, Victor Hobson
OLB--Angelo Crowell, Bryan Thomas, Channing Crowder
MLB--Joey Porter, Eric Barton
CB-- Darelle Revis, Jabari Greer, David Barrett
CB--Terrence McGee, Will Allen
SS--Donte Whitner, Lance Schulters
FS--Kerry Rhodes, Jason Allen
P--Brian Moorman
K--Mike Nugent
The Bilphinets would have to focus on a strong ground game, occasionally allowing Losman to stretch the field deep to Lee Evans and Cotchery to force the safetys to stay back and to keep eight Pats out of the box. If Brown is healthy, the Bilphinets will have a great 1-2 RB combo with Lynch and Brown. Brown can also play a little fullback and Leon Washington can come in as a great third down RB. The combined offensive line is fairly impressive and should at least hold its own with the Patriots. Depth is also helpful, with rotation schemes allowing the OT's a breather every now and then.
On defense, there are quite a few decent LB's. with Hobson, Barton and Thomas able to come off the bench. The front four is fairly stout and the Schoebel-Taylor combo of ends give the Bilphinets two guys who can get upfield and penetrate. The secondary is still the weakspot, with neither Revis nor McGee able to go heads up on Moss. Revis will have to give help to the side Moss lines up on, leaving the other in a one-on-one matchup. Whitner can fill up running lanes, but that probably isn't necessary against the Pats, so the Bilphinets will call on Dante to give the WR's a couple of licks to make them a little more leary of crossing routes.
Prediction: The Bilphinets are built around the running game, an area that has had success against the Pats. However, Losman is not effective enough to keep the defense honest, so Harrison can slide up to support the run. When the Bilphinets throw deep, Samuel comes down with at least one pick, killing a drive and leading to easy points. When the Pats have the ball, Brady is hurried in the pocket, but can throw quick slants to the WR's. The combined D stiffens twice in the red zone, but Moss breaks two long ones and Welker has another.
Lynch scores twice and Cotchery hauls a bomb in, but Nugent goes 0-2 from 45+ yards and the Pats win by a score of 27-21.
Edit: Filled out the depth chart, corrected typos...
RB-- Marshawn Lynch, Leon Washington
RB-- Ronnie Brown (IR), Ryan Neufield
WR-- Lee Evans, Laveranues Coles, Ted Ginn JR.
WR-- Jerricho Cotchery, Josh Reed, Marty Booker
TE-- Chris Baker, Robert Royal
OT--Jason Peters, LJ Shelton, Langston Walker
OT--Vernon Carey, D'Brickshaw Ferguson
G--Rex Hadnot, Brandon Moore
G--Derrick Dockery, Adrian Clarke
C--Nick Mangold, Melvin Fowler
DT--Vonnie Holliday, Kyle Williams, Larry Triplett
DT--Dewayne Robertson, Keith Traylor
DE--Aaron Schobel, Shaun Ellis
DE--Jason Taylor, Kenyon Coleman
OLB--David Harris, Victor Hobson
OLB--Angelo Crowell, Bryan Thomas, Channing Crowder
MLB--Joey Porter, Eric Barton
CB-- Darelle Revis, Jabari Greer, David Barrett
CB--Terrence McGee, Will Allen
SS--Donte Whitner, Lance Schulters
FS--Kerry Rhodes, Jason Allen
P--Brian Moorman
K--Mike Nugent
The Bilphinets would have to focus on a strong ground game, occasionally allowing Losman to stretch the field deep to Lee Evans and Cotchery to force the safetys to stay back and to keep eight Pats out of the box. If Brown is healthy, the Bilphinets will have a great 1-2 RB combo with Lynch and Brown. Brown can also play a little fullback and Leon Washington can come in as a great third down RB. The combined offensive line is fairly impressive and should at least hold its own with the Patriots. Depth is also helpful, with rotation schemes allowing the OT's a breather every now and then.
On defense, there are quite a few decent LB's. with Hobson, Barton and Thomas able to come off the bench. The front four is fairly stout and the Schoebel-Taylor combo of ends give the Bilphinets two guys who can get upfield and penetrate. The secondary is still the weakspot, with neither Revis nor McGee able to go heads up on Moss. Revis will have to give help to the side Moss lines up on, leaving the other in a one-on-one matchup. Whitner can fill up running lanes, but that probably isn't necessary against the Pats, so the Bilphinets will call on Dante to give the WR's a couple of licks to make them a little more leary of crossing routes.
Prediction: The Bilphinets are built around the running game, an area that has had success against the Pats. However, Losman is not effective enough to keep the defense honest, so Harrison can slide up to support the run. When the Bilphinets throw deep, Samuel comes down with at least one pick, killing a drive and leading to easy points. When the Pats have the ball, Brady is hurried in the pocket, but can throw quick slants to the WR's. The combined D stiffens twice in the red zone, but Moss breaks two long ones and Welker has another.
Lynch scores twice and Cotchery hauls a bomb in, but Nugent goes 0-2 from 45+ yards and the Pats win by a score of 27-21.
Edit: Filled out the depth chart, corrected typos...
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Q :If the Bilphinets can't beat the Patriots,how can the Jets beat the Patriots ?We're not talking about the Cowjets here,or even the Packjets..... it's just the lowly New York Jets.The Jets are WINNING this weekend....HATERS
greenline
Footballguy
FIXED.Q :If the Bilphinets can't beat the Patriots,The Jets are WINNING this weekend....
HATERS
how can the Jets beat the Patriots ?
We're not talking about the Cowjets here,
or even the Packjets..... it's just the lowly New York New Jersey Jets.
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Blackjacks
Footballguy
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Try to keep up, it is now the juggernaut of the Bilphinets.
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
There is NO WAY that the Pats score on those 22 defensive starters!! 
thesurfshop19
Footballguy
Another question -- who would be favored in a game between the 2007 Dolphins and 2007 Patriots if the Dolphins were playing 12 on 11 in all three phases of the game?
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
Dolphins.thesurfshop19 said:
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Blackjacks
Footballguy
It's for fun you jackas#
Shrek
Having a great season
To illustrate how truly awful the Dolphins really are...
If the Jets combined with the Dolphins, the overwhelming majority of players would still be Jets (assuming we are playing the best at each position).
Jason Taylor and possibly Vonnie Holliday on defense (although they run different schemes). Zach Thomas? When both are healthy, you couldn't take him above Vilma. You might be able to consider Porter, but honestly, his stats are fairly comparable to Victor Hobson. I see no one on the offensive side who I would put above their Jet counterpart. Possibly David Martin at TE, but I would call him a push with Chris Baker.
Plus, if you combined those teams together, it woudl create a rip in the space/time continuum. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together- mass hysteria!
If the Jets combined with the Dolphins, the overwhelming majority of players would still be Jets (assuming we are playing the best at each position).
Jason Taylor and possibly Vonnie Holliday on defense (although they run different schemes). Zach Thomas? When both are healthy, you couldn't take him above Vilma. You might be able to consider Porter, but honestly, his stats are fairly comparable to Victor Hobson. I see no one on the offensive side who I would put above their Jet counterpart. Possibly David Martin at TE, but I would call him a push with Chris Baker.
Plus, if you combined those teams together, it woudl create a rip in the space/time continuum. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together- mass hysteria!
Reaper
Footballguy
I was going to point this out as well.....Taylor would be nice to stick in there... And at this point with the WR injuries, Ginn may get out on the field...... Other than that, the Miami roster doesn't help much other than some depth.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think this team could give it a go. The QB situation is a wreck, though. And it assumes that both teams are healthy (see: Bell & Brown)
Offense
QB - Chad Pennington
RB - Ronnie Brown/Thomas Jones
WR - Laveranues Coles/Jerricho Cotchery/Ted Ginn/Marty Booker
TE - Chris Baker/David Martin
OT - D'Brickashaw Ferguson
OG - Rex Hadnot
C - Nick Mangold
OG - Adrien Clarke
OT - Vernon Carey
Defense
DE - Jason Taylor
DT - Dewayne Robertson
DT - Kenyon Coleman
DE - Shaun Ellis
OLB - David Harris
MLB - Zach Thomas
OLB - Jonathan Vilma
CB - Darrelle Revis
CB - Will Allen
SS - Kerry Rhodes
FS - Yeremiah Bell
Offense
QB - Chad Pennington
RB - Ronnie Brown/Thomas Jones
WR - Laveranues Coles/Jerricho Cotchery/Ted Ginn/Marty Booker
TE - Chris Baker/David Martin
OT - D'Brickashaw Ferguson
OG - Rex Hadnot
C - Nick Mangold
OG - Adrien Clarke
OT - Vernon Carey
Defense
DE - Jason Taylor
DT - Dewayne Robertson
DT - Kenyon Coleman
DE - Shaun Ellis
OLB - David Harris
MLB - Zach Thomas
OLB - Jonathan Vilma
CB - Darrelle Revis
CB - Will Allen
SS - Kerry Rhodes
FS - Yeremiah Bell
Reaper
Footballguy
And Zach THomas is out... The rest are questionable upgrades....the real difference and healthy guy would be having the use of Jason Taylor who they might line up at OLB, that would be nice!!!
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Oh yeah. Thomas too.I didn't want to bother figuring out how it would work with a 3-4. The personnel available might be better suited to that scheme, but I still understand how a 4-3 works better.
Sulla
Marius hates me
Instead of the Jetphins, I suggest this name for the combined Dolphins - Jets: the Dolts.
oddball
Smart
Sorry, Sulla, but OddibeMcD is a step ahead of youInstead of the Jetphins, I suggest this name for the combined Dolphins - Jets: the Dolts.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think the Ninerphinets would struggle.
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maxwelledison
Footballguy
At football?
