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"If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, its yo (2 Viewers)

get her back, 16!!!! GET. HER. BACK.

for effect, you can wait until she's walked down the aisle and is up at the altar with PT. you storm into the church, make up some sappy speech, the PT realizes he can't stand in the way of true love, and you and Alyssa get married right then and there. the two of you can start spitting out kids in marital bliss for about 5-6 years before she starts banging one of your neighbors and we can repeat this whole thread. good luck.
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16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.
Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.
 
16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.
Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.
It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.
 
:lmao:

You've already forgiven her by even having contact with her again.

You may never fully trust her, but you will be giving her that chance again.

Only next time she cheats on you will be 10 years down the road when you are married with kids.

 
We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him.
I don't quite follow this. Did she and the PT break up, or are they still a couple and going on vacation together?
 
16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.
Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them.

Keeping the dog.

Wanting to talk to her parents.

Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.

You're not over her; you want her back.
It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while.

In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.
Riiiiiiight :rolleyes:
 
We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him.
I don't quite follow this. Did she and the PT break up, or are they still a couple and going on vacation together?
They are still together and he is still pounding that meat like a line cook at Denny's.
 
"Well, it's already paid for, so I might as well go get railed constantly. But I'll be thinking of you and it'll be easy to avoid him (when he isn't defiling me)!"

 
:lmao:

Great you got to see her before she leaves for vacation with the PT she cheated on you with. Don't forget to feed her dog, get her mail and wash her car while she's gone to really impress her and win her back.

I don't know how you can even type this stuff out without your head exploding.

 
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Seriously No.16, do you want her back or not? Could you ever trust her again? You need to figure that out before you go down that road again, otherwise you'll just get sucked in and be the doormat in the relationship. Couple years on you'll be in the same place you were when she cheated on you. I'm not seeing anything from you so far indicating you've really learned much from this experience.

 
FFA is right as always.There is another guy. Personal Trainer, no college degree! HA! Doesn't live in the area. They met when she went back home for Christmas.My best friend's girlfriend, who is my ex's roommate now relayed the news.Good riddance! Just makes things a whole lot easier.
You really need to go back to post #313 and read what she did to you. I can't believe you're letting this woman back into your life.
 
Good luck 16 but from an outside perspective it seems like she is stringing you along. With texts such as "I Miss You" and telling you that yes she is going on vacation with the PT but really doesn't want to and will try to avoid him it sounds like she may be trying to keep you hanging on while continuing the relationship with PT.

 
Am I the only one picturing Lebron James in these stories?

This thread has probably done more to damage the reputation of LBJ than 'The Decision'

 
We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while.
So let me get this straight. You schedule a trip with her to Hawaii but she breaks it off and goes with the PT instead but she won't break her engagement with the PT because its already "paid for"? Seems just a little more than just slightly ####ed up. What am I missing here?
 
The next time you think about wanting to share some news with her, because she was your best friend and rainbows and skittles, think about how sweaty that personal trainers balls were when he was bending her over like a dog and trying to destroy her uterus. Think about her laying there chewing on a pillow with her ### in the air getting drilled, and loving every minute of it, and yelling "YES YES YES", because let's face it, dude is in great shape and was probably wearing that thing out like it hadn't been worn out in a long time. And think about how much she liked it. And then how she probably licked the sweat off of his balls while he was trying to finish on her dome. This tramp isn't worth your time 16. It's painful to see you falling into the same thing thousands and thousands of other suckers have fallen for in the past. :thumbdown:
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It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.
I think you're going to regret this. It takes a long time to get over someone who you've been with so long. It probably took me a couple years to get over one of mine to the detriment of other relationships, but eventually it happens. I think she's going to have a hard time respecting you if you take her back. However this shakes out good luck, maybe it works out fine, maybe not. Still not too late to cut all contact, give her back her dog, stop with the family stuff, but we all know that's not what's going to happen.
 
I feel for No. 16

He wants her back in the worst way, always has.

He most likely will take her back after some more heart to heart talks in what he thinks will be on "his" terms of an understanding that things will be better in regards to her attitude towards him and her faithfulness.

Hopefully they live happily ever after, but it just seems she will enter the relationship again with some humility early on knowing fully she has and always will have the upper hand and can pretty much do/say anything she wants, until 16 can't take enough.

Good luck man

 
The next time you think about wanting to share some news with her, because she was your best friend and rainbows and skittles, think about how sweaty that personal trainers balls were when he was bending her over like a dog and trying to destroy her uterus. Think about her laying there chewing on a pillow with her ### in the air getting drilled, and loving every minute of it, and yelling "YES YES YES", because let's face it, dude is in great shape and was probably wearing that thing out like it hadn't been worn out in a long time. And think about how much she liked it. And then how she probably licked the sweat off of his balls while he was trying to finish on her dome. This tramp isn't worth your time 16. It's painful to see you falling into the same thing thousands and thousands of other suckers have fallen for in the past. :thumbdown:
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I feel for No. 16He wants her back in the worst way, always has.He most likely will take her back after some more heart to heart talks in what he thinks will be on "his" terms of an understanding that things will be better in regards to her attitude towards him and her faithfulness.Hopefully they live happily ever after, but it just seems she will enter the relationship again with some humility early on knowing fully she has and always will have the upper hand and can pretty much do/say anything she wants, until 16 can't take enough.Good luck man
I feel bad for him too. Before the internet and cell phones it was much easier to cut off contact and get over someone after time. Now, with so many ways to stay in touch, it's nearly impossible unless you REALLY want to. 16 has never really wanted to. Unfortunately, as you say, he'll go back with her and always be the beta in the relationship. Lapdog. Meanwhile he'll probably miss that woman that would have been a great match, whom he would always be able to trust and might have a happy, healthy relationship with. It's been obvious from Day 1 but is all the more evident after his last post.It's over Johnny!
 
I feel for No. 16He wants her back in the worst way, always has.He most likely will take her back after some more heart to heart talks in what he thinks will be on "his" terms of an understanding that things will be better in regards to her attitude towards him and her faithfulness.Hopefully they live happily ever after, but it just seems she will enter the relationship again with some humility early on knowing fully she has and always will have the upper hand and can pretty much do/say anything she wants, until 16 can't take enough.Good luck man
I'm sure EG will come up with something, but the only way this works is if he takes her back, lets her get comfortable and kicks her to the curb hard. I did this to the one chick who cheated on me (in HS) and never felt better or looked back, felt so awesome. Though I recognize different circumstances here. They'll have the rebound sex, everything will be lovey dovey for a couple months until old patterns are reestablished. If you do get back together, please read the MMSL/sex as a weapon thread and stop being a beta in the relationship if you really think it has a chance of working out.
 
Nice job, man. Way to continue to ignore the advice of 50-60 different guys, a majority of which seem to have been in your position before (and based on the way you've decribed this chick, who knows just how accurate THAT statement is). Prepare to enjoy yet even more sloppy seconds. :thumbup:

She's going on a vacation with PT (AGAIN!) to get drilled non-stop (AGAIN!) and you STILL want to keep some contact, cling to some hope?

This has gone well beyond the morbid curiosity of watching a train-wreck unfold and into one of those god-awful videos where you see someone actually getting murdered or something. Jesus ******* Christ.

 
'No. 16 said:
After about 15 minutes, I feel a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Alyssa...."Can I ask you something? Why do you keep contacting my family?"
did you explain to her how this was a cultural thing?
 
:lmao:

Great you got to see her before she leaves for vacation with the PT she cheated on you with. Don't forget to feed her dog, get her mail and wash her car while she's gone to really impress her and win her back.

I don't know how you can even type this stuff out without your head exploding.
I wrote her off for the tenth time today

And practiced all the things I would say

But she came over, I lost my nerve

I took her back and made her dessert

Now I know I'm being used

That's okay man 'cause I like the abuse

Well, I know she's playing with me

That's okay 'cause I've got no self esteem

Oh wayo, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah

We make plans to go out at night

I wait till 2 then I turn out the light

This rejection's got me so low

If she keeps it up I just might tell her so

Oh wayo, yeah, yeah

Oh, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah

Oh, yeah, yeah

When she's saying, all that she wants only me

Then I wonder why she sleeps with my friends

When she saying, all men are like a disease

Then I wonder how much more I can spend

Well I guess, I should stick up for myself

{ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/o/offspring-lyrics/self-esteem-lyrics.html }

But I really think it's better this way

The more you suffer

The more it shows you really care, right? Yeah

Now I'll relate, this little bit

That happens more than I'd like to admit

Late at night, she knocks on my door

She's drunk again and looking to score

Now I know, I should say no, but

That's kind of hard when she's ready to go

I may be dumb, but I'm not a dweeb

I'm just a sucker with no self esteem

Oh wayo, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah

When she's saying, all that she wants only me

Then I wonder why she sleeps with my friends

When she's saying, all that I'm like a disease

Then I wonder how much more I can spend

Well I guess, I should stick up for myself

But I really think it's better this way

The more you suffer

The more it shows you really care, right? Yeah
 
:lmao:

Great you got to see her before she leaves for vacation with the PT she cheated on you with. Don't forget to feed her dog, get her mail and wash her car while she's gone to really impress her and win her back.

I don't know how you can even type this stuff out without your head exploding.
I wrote her off for the tenth time today

And practiced all the things I would say

But she came over, I lost my nerve

I took her back and made her dessert

Now I know I'm being used

That's okay man 'cause I like the abuse

Well, I know she's playing with me

That's okay 'cause I've got no self esteem

Oh wayo, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah

We make plans to go out at night

I wait till 2 then I turn out the light

This rejection's got me so low

If she keeps it up I just might tell her so

Oh wayo, yeah, yeah

Oh, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah

Oh, yeah, yeah

When she's saying, all that she wants only me

Then I wonder why she sleeps with my friends

When she saying, all men are like a disease

Then I wonder how much more I can spend

Well I guess, I should stick up for myself

{ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/o/offspring-lyrics/self-esteem-lyrics.html }

But I really think it's better this way

The more you suffer

The more it shows you really care, right? Yeah

Now I'll relate, this little bit

That happens more than I'd like to admit

Late at night, she knocks on my door

She's drunk again and looking to score

Now I know, I should say no, but

That's kind of hard when she's ready to go

I may be dumb, but I'm not a dweeb

I'm just a sucker with no self esteem

Oh wayo, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah

Oh yeah, yeah

When she's saying, all that she wants only me

Then I wonder why she sleeps with my friends

When she's saying, all that I'm like a disease

Then I wonder how much more I can spend

Well I guess, I should stick up for myself

But I really think it's better this way

The more you suffer

The more it shows you really care, right? Yeah
:thumbup: :goodposting:

Awesome song

 
Future update predicitons:

- PT proposes to ex on this upcoming vacation

- 16 declares he is REALLY over her this time (no, REALLY)

- Ex comes to 16 a month before the wedding, and he once again gives into his lustful animal urges and hugs the ever-lovin' #### out of her

- "I can't believe she is still going through with the wedding...we...hugged"

- 16 bursts into the church as the wedding ceremony is going on, fights the father, knocks out the PT, picks up the dog, spins a few choice dance moves, and steals away with the ex on the next bus to Fresno....happily...ever...after.

 
I feel for No. 16

He wants her back in the worst way, always has.

He most likely will take her back after some more heart to heart talks in what he thinks will be on "his" terms of an understanding that things will be better in regards to her attitude towards him and her faithfulness.

Hopefully they live happily ever after, but it just seems she will enter the relationship again with some humility early on knowing fully she has and always will have the upper hand and can pretty much do/say anything she wants, until 16 can't take enough.

Good luck man
I'm sure EG will come up with something, but the only way this works is if he takes her back, lets her get comfortable and kicks her to the curb hard. I did this to the one chick who cheated on me (in HS) and never felt better or looked back, felt so awesome. Though I recognize different circumstances here. They'll have the rebound sex, everything will be lovey dovey for a couple months until old patterns are reestablished. If you do get back together, please read the MMSL/sex as a weapon thread and stop being a beta in the relationship if you really think it has a chance of working out.
No one ever listens.No. 16 will get back together with this girl and be happy for a week or two, and slowly he'll start to realize the inevitable. That things are irrevocably changed, he can't trust her, he can't shake the idea of her being with someone else, etc. The only reason he wants her back is to prove his own self-worth, whether subliminally or otherwise. He'll figure out his mistake soon enough.

The only question then is whether he wants to utilize his new-found position to exact a swift and harsh revenge. If so, I'll be here, waiting patiently.

 
'No. 16 said:
It was around 2400 (0000), so I decided to take a nap on the sofa to get some rest while my brother continued drinking. After about 15 minutes, I feel a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Alyssa...."Can I ask you something? Why do you keep contacting my family?""I didn't. Your sister was the one who contacted me.""Well why are you contacting them?""This isn't the time or place to discuss this." I told her. She was a little drunk and the apartment is not a large place. Hell, one of my friend's girlfriends was seated on the right next to me. "I'm just asking you why are you contacting them?""Really, we shouldn't be talking about this now."I could tell she wouldn't let this go. So I asked her if she wanted to discuss this outside.
JMHO, whether you would admit it or not, looks like your insistence to keep contact with the family 'for cultural reasons' had exactly the outcome you were hoping for... ongoing interaction/confrontation with the ex. Curiously, she appears to not share your cultural beliefs.
 
can we just fast forward this story to December where, after making beautiful coitus under a Harvest moon during the Autumnal Equinox and finally getting back together, #16 finds an "unusual text" on the GF's phone from "some guy"?

 
Future update predicitons:

- PT proposes to ex on this upcoming vacation

- 16 declares he is REALLY over her this time (no, REALLY)

- Ex comes to 16 a month before the wedding, and he once again gives into his lustful animal urges and hugs the ever-lovin' #### out of her

- "I can't believe she is still going through with the wedding...we...hugged"

- 16 bursts into the church as the wedding ceremony is going on, fights the father, knocks out the PT, picks up the dog, spins a few choice dance moves, and steals away with the ex on the next bus to Fresno....happily...ever...after.
You forgot...CRACKIN' !!!

 
No. 16, taking her back at this point would be like giving Biedrins ANOTHER $37 million on a NEW multi-year deal, when you just drafted 3 potentially superior players, and you have UNLIMITED draft picks in a deep talent pool.

 
Few things in life are more frustrating than knowing something, trying to convince someone that you know it, then realizing the person you're trying to convince is already convinced they know differently.

At least the thread has gotten funny again.

 
'No. 16 said:
It was around 2400 (0000), so I decided to take a nap on the sofa to get some rest while my brother continued drinking. After about 15 minutes, I feel a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Alyssa...."Can I ask you something? Why do you keep contacting my family?""I didn't. Your sister was the one who contacted me.""Well why are you contacting them?""This isn't the time or place to discuss this." I told her. She was a little drunk and the apartment is not a large place. Hell, one of my friend's girlfriends was seated on the right next to me. "I'm just asking you why are you contacting them?""Really, we shouldn't be talking about this now."I could tell she wouldn't let this go. So I asked her if she wanted to discuss this outside.
JMHO, whether you would admit it or not, looks like your insistence to keep contact with the family 'for cultural reasons' had exactly the outcome you were hoping for... ongoing interaction/confrontation with the ex. Curiously, she appears to not share your cultural beliefs.
Exactly. He thinks the parents are desperate to somehow maintain a relationship with him, and meanwhile they're obviously asking her WTF is up with this guy you dumped still calling us?Most of my girlfriends' parents didn't like having me around that much even while I was dating their daughter. They sure as hell didn't want me hanging around after it was over.
 
'No. 16 said:
It was around 2400 (0000), so I decided to take a nap on the sofa to get some rest while my brother continued drinking. After about 15 minutes, I feel a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Alyssa...."Can I ask you something? Why do you keep contacting my family?""I didn't. Your sister was the one who contacted me.""Well why are you contacting them?""This isn't the time or place to discuss this." I told her. She was a little drunk and the apartment is not a large place. Hell, one of my friend's girlfriends was seated on the right next to me. "I'm just asking you why are you contacting them?""Really, we shouldn't be talking about this now."I could tell she wouldn't let this go. So I asked her if she wanted to discuss this outside.
JMHO, whether you would admit it or not, looks like your insistence to keep contact with the family 'for cultural reasons' had exactly the outcome you were hoping for... ongoing interaction/confrontation with the ex. Curiously, she appears to not share your cultural beliefs.
Exactly. He thinks the parents are desperate to somehow maintain a relationship with him, and meanwhile they're obviously asking her WTF is up with this guy you dumped still calling us?Most of my girlfriends' parents didn't like having me around that much even while I was dating their daughter. They sure as hell didn't want me hanging around after it was over.
This is spot on. They are like WTF is up with this dude?
 
Good luck 16 but from an outside perspective it seems like she is stringing you along. With texts such as "I Miss You" and telling you that yes she is going on vacation with the PT but really doesn't want to and will try to avoid him it sounds like she may be trying to keep you hanging on while continuing the relationship with PT.
:goodposting:If you want to try to work things out with her.. first of all.. Don't. ( i could not personally overcome that kind of betrayal, but hey, to each their own) If you are going to ignore that advice she needs to show you that she is committed to you and that starts by not having any contact with the PT whatsoever. If she is not willing to do that, you have no business even talking to her.
 
'No. 16 said:
It was around 2400 (0000), so I decided to take a nap on the sofa to get some rest while my brother continued drinking. After about 15 minutes, I feel a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Alyssa...."Can I ask you something? Why do you keep contacting my family?""I didn't. Your sister was the one who contacted me.""Well why are you contacting them?""This isn't the time or place to discuss this." I told her. She was a little drunk and the apartment is not a large place. Hell, one of my friend's girlfriends was seated on the right next to me. "I'm just asking you why are you contacting them?""Really, we shouldn't be talking about this now."I could tell she wouldn't let this go. So I asked her if she wanted to discuss this outside.
JMHO, whether you would admit it or not, looks like your insistence to keep contact with the family 'for cultural reasons' had exactly the outcome you were hoping for... ongoing interaction/confrontation with the ex. Curiously, she appears to not share your cultural beliefs.
Exactly. He thinks the parents are desperate to somehow maintain a relationship with him, and meanwhile they're obviously asking her WTF is up with this guy you dumped still calling us?Most of my girlfriends' parents didn't like having me around that much even while I was dating their daughter. They sure as hell didn't want me hanging around after it was over.
This is spot on. They are like WTF is up with this dude?
I don't even care what their reaction to it is. To me this is about 16 being honest with himself about his motives. Seems plain as day this was the very predictable outcome, and if he's honest, 16 knows this. It's pretext for ongoing interaction with the ex. This cultural absurdity is the definition of stinky bait. Congratulations, it worked. Your reward is more torture, and well deserved at this point I'd say.
 
I've been active in the FFA for well over a decade now, and I honestly can't recall a time when literally everybody in a thread agreed on something, yet that seems to be happening in this thread. I mean, the Kate Upton thread actually contains people saying that she's not really that hot -- that's how many contrarians we have around here who argue just for the sake of arguing. But nobody is even trying to make the case the No. 16 is acting prudently or reasonably here. Not one person. This may be a first.

 
I've been active in the FFA for well over a decade now, and I honestly can't recall a time when literally everybody in a thread agreed on something, yet that seems to be happening in this thread. I mean, the Kate Upton thread actually contains people saying that she's not really that hot -- that's how many contrarians we have around here who argue just for the sake of arguing. But nobody is even trying to make the case the No. 16 is acting prudently or reasonably here. Not one person. This may be a first.
I guess the Mayan end of the world is coming if what you're saying is true.It's like in Dumb and Dumber, where Lloyd is talking to Mary, and it's that 1 in a million chance things could work out, and No. 16 is just thinking "so you're saying there's a chance!" plowing ahead anyway.

 

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