Most Embarrassing Thing Someone in Your Family Does? (1 Viewer)

[Jayrod]

Before my sister-in-law got divorced, her husband could be the source of some embarrassment. He's a nice guy but has a bit of a cluelessness vibe about him which would lead to him saying or doing embarrassing things. One time we were at the beach with my wife's side of the family. I don't remember the exact specifics, but for some reason my wife and our kids were there earlier than the rest, so we're hanging out on beach chairs near the ocean in our bathing suits. Brother-in-law walks up, excitedly says how he loves the ocean, then proceeds to walk into the surf fully clothed (including jean shorts and sneakers) to play in the waves. And his idea of playing in the waves was apparently to stand right where they are breaking and just get knocked over repeatedly. This went on for at least 5 minutes. I was really surprised the lifeguards didn't do anything, but he's a pretty strong guy so I guess they figured it was fine. Or maybe they were just as confused as I was.

That is just bizarre.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

A pseudo-peeve of mine is that northbound when it changes from car lanes vs. truck lanes to Eastern spur vs. Western spur, you have to keep left for Eastern and right for Western. Then they cross over each other. My brain always says, WTF, East is supposed to be right and West is supposed to be left.

We used to have one of those in Houston, where US 290 starts at Loop 610. You had to exit right (to the east) to go west. The roads crossed over. No one ever believed me, even though I was local and the navigator. That got fixed when the interchange got rebuilt.

 

[General Malaise]

Below is an excerpt of a letter my wife wrote to me a year or so ago when things were going very VERY poorly amidst my family:

'I look at my family and I know you did not have the same experiences as me, even though we both came from a two parent household. I like to think we take after my parents, pray that we work hard enough to never become yours, and it's important you know that you are not like your father.'

I share that because I saw this thread title and I was instantly over whelmed with how to respond. My first thought was 'uhhhh, everything.' I feel in a weird place now as my dad passed this past winter and my mom has now mostly recovered from heart surgery late spring. I feel obligated to invite her again in our kids activities, but now it'll entail overnight stays as she can't drive more than a couple hours per day, so I don't want to include her. Because what embarrasses me about her? As it turns out, existing, and I only write that with some hyperbole.

Damn man, that's deep. Like, really deep. Sorry friend.

 

[msudaisy26]

My mother in-law does two things.

First one is when she hosts a holiday or get together. She will tell everyone that they are eating all wrong. Put gravy on your piece of turkey? You ruined it, didn’t have any fruit salad because you are allergic to strawberries? You are missing out and should try it anyways, how bad could it really be.

The second thing is she goes garage sale shopping at everyone else's house. It doesn't matter if it is a three dollar candle holder or a 2000 dollar set of patio furniture. She will let you know that if you ever want to "give" it away she will take.

Both of these things happen to everyone zhe speaks with. It doesn't matter if she has known you for 50 years or 15 minutes. My whole face turns red every time she does it.

 

[titusbramble]

At least one of the folks still believes mainstream media as a news source, and the other at least watches it

 

[Keith R]

My mom wanted to give the grandkids some cash for college so I took her to the bank where she says “I WANT TO TAKE TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS OUT” so loud that everyone in the entire bank can hear. No concept of being discreet.

I dunno, maybe that says more about me/my jadedness of others.

That reminded me of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiUjb2HRxEY

 

[JohnnyU]

A bad habit of mine that I have to be conscious of, that pisses my wife off, is not to walk in front of her when leaving a restaurant. Not sure why I do that and I’m trying not to do it. I try to walk next to her or behind her. That is good manners.

A friend of mine embarrasses me in public due to using the F word. I call him out for it too. Just a habit of his.

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

 

[nirad3]

It's not embarrassing, but it's annoying. My dad leaves the TV on in every room in the house when we go on vacation or visit his house or vice versa. At times the TV will be on in the Family Room, basement, his bedroom, and wherever else he can find one. Nobody around, no reason to leave it on, nobody watching it including him, and hell we might be leaving for dinner for a few hours. But dammit those TVs are not going off. He also watches QVC, which is in fact embarrassing.

Hmm... when I travel for work I don't think I turn off the TV (ESPN) for the duration of my hotel stay. Overnight included. I know I'm gonna want to watch it while I'm there and it's usually a process to turn the TV on, find the channel guide and then find ESPN. A lot of hotels have TVs that have auto shut-off. Those suck.

Also, not a family member and bless his heart, but a GB of mine has a habit of asking the names of bartenders or servers whenever we go out. And he always says it like... "and your first name again?" I guess it's to establish some kind of rapport but it's kinda funny / semi-embarrassing.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's not embarrassing, but it's annoying. My dad leaves the TV on in every room in the house when we go on vacation or visit his house or vice versa. At times the TV will be on in the Family Room, basement, his bedroom, and wherever else he can find one. Nobody around, no reason to leave it on, nobody watching it including him, and hell we might be leaving for dinner for a few hours. But dammit those TVs are not going off. He also watches QVC, which is in fact embarrassing.

Hmm... when I travel for work I don't think I turn off the TV (ESPN) for the duration of my hotel stay. Overnight included. I know I'm gonna want to watch it while I'm there and it's usually a process to turn the TV on, find the channel guide and then find ESPN. A lot of hotels have TVs that have auto shut-off. Those suck.

Also, not a family member and bless his heart, but a GB of mine has a habit of asking the names of bartenders or servers whenever we go out. And he always says it like... "and your first name again?" I guess it's to establish some kind of rapport but it's kinda funny / semi-embarrassing.

I went on vacation and forgot to turn off the gas fireplace for a week. Man, was it burning up in the house when we returned. Could have burned the place down.

 

[Jayrod]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

 

[JohnnyU]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

 

[Don Quixote]

Sister decided last minute not to fly out to my wedding. She was in bridal party. She posted her decision not to attend on her Facebook before my wife even knew that the bridal party was going to be short one, so learned about through Facebook. Same sister also missed my son’s baptism because, while we told her baptism was at 9:30am, she showed up at the church at 9:45am (with another sister of mine who was staying with her and trusted that she would ever be on time for something).

 

[Zow]

A bad habit of mine that I have to be conscious of, that pisses my wife off, is not to walk in front of her when leaving a restaurant. Not sure why I do that and I’m trying not to do it. I try to walk next to her or behind her. That is good manners.

If we are doing some self-introspection, I'm terrible at introducing my wife to people and it drives her nuts. It's not intentional, I just forget and immediately start talking to the person about some issue.

 

[Zow]

Sister decided last minute not to fly out to my wedding. She was in bridal party. She posted her decision not to attend on her Facebook before my wife even knew that the bridal party was going to be short one, so learned about through Facebook. Same sister also missed my son’s baptism because, while we told her baptism was at 9:30am, she showed up at the church at 9:45am (with another sister of mine who was staying with her and trusted that she would ever be on time for something).

Was she in jail or in the hospital? If not, what could have been her basis?

 

[Golden Gopher]

I haven't read through this topic, but the opening post made me think of someone I know, and their ordering habits when eating out. It is virtually IMPOSSIBLE for them to order anything without somehow altering the menu item. And, usually, the item is altered in no less than 4-5 ways. Example....

"I'd like the Asian Chicken Salad. No onions, please. And, could I get the mandarin oranges on the side? Is there any way I could get extra mandarin oranges? Also, instead of the regular Asian dressing, could I get ranch? Oh, and make that extra ranch. On the side, please. Just water to drink. With extra lemon wedges, please. Oh, and could we get more bread? But just the white rolls, not the other ones."

Then, the food comes out, at which point they would ask "Is there cilantro in the salad?" (Waiter nods his head yes). "Oh, OK. Yeah, I can't have any cilantro. I'll break out all over." (Waiter takes the salad back to the kitchen). "I'm pretty sure I told him no cilantro."

Meanwhile, I'm thinking "No you didn't. In the midst of your seven other special requests, you forgot that part."

Secondly, drivers who follow too closely and cause everyone behind them to brake every 5 seconds.

 

[Don Quixote]

Sister decided last minute not to fly out to my wedding. She was in bridal party. She posted her decision not to attend on her Facebook before my wife even knew that the bridal party was going to be short one, so learned about through Facebook. Same sister also missed my son’s baptism because, while we told her baptism was at 9:30am, she showed up at the church at 9:45am (with another sister of mine who was staying with her and trusted that she would ever be on time for something).

Was she in jail or in the hospital? If not, what could have been her basis?

Concerned about snow in the forecast that weekend and flight back getting cancelled on Sunday, causing her to have to miss work on Monday. (Though, in fact, flight would have gone off without issue and had many traveling to/from same city.)

 

[JohnnyU]

I haven't read through this topic, but the opening post made me think of someone I know, and their ordering habits when eating out. It is virtually IMPOSSIBLE for them to order anything without somehow altering the menu item. And, usually, the item is altered in no less than 4-5 ways. Example....

"I'd like the Asian Chicken Salad. No onions, please. And, could I get the mandarin oranges on the side? Is there any way I could get extra mandarin oranges? Also, instead of the regular Asian dressing, could I get ranch? Oh, and make that extra ranch. On the side, please. Just water to drink. With extra lemon wedges, please. Oh, and could we get more bread? But just the white rolls, not the other ones."

Then, the food comes out, at which point they would ask "Is there cilantro in the salad?" (Waiter nods his head yes). "Oh, OK. Yeah, I can't have any cilantro. I'll break out all over." (Waiter takes the salad back to the kitchen). "I'm pretty sure I told him no cilantro."

Meanwhile, I'm thinking "No you didn't. In the midst of your seven other special requests, you forgot that part."

Secondly, drivers who follow too closely and cause everyone behind them to brake every 5 seconds.

Try dining with a vegan. Talk about 10,000 questions.

 

[elguapo07]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

 

[Zow]

Sister decided last minute not to fly out to my wedding. She was in bridal party. She posted her decision not to attend on her Facebook before my wife even knew that the bridal party was going to be short one, so learned about through Facebook. Same sister also missed my son’s baptism because, while we told her baptism was at 9:30am, she showed up at the church at 9:45am (with another sister of mine who was staying with her and trusted that she would ever be on time for something).

Was she in jail or in the hospital? If not, what could have been her basis?

Concerned about snow in the forecast that weekend and flight back getting cancelled on Sunday, causing her to have to miss work on Monday. (Though, in fact, flight would have gone off without issue and had many traveling to/from same city.)

Wow.

Yeah, that's embarrassing.

 

[Zow]

I haven't read through this topic, but the opening post made me think of someone I know, and their ordering habits when eating out. It is virtually IMPOSSIBLE for them to order anything without somehow altering the menu item. And, usually, the item is altered in no less than 4-5 ways. Example....

"I'd like the Asian Chicken Salad. No onions, please. And, could I get the mandarin oranges on the side? Is there any way I could get extra mandarin oranges? Also, instead of the regular Asian dressing, could I get ranch? Oh, and make that extra ranch. On the side, please. Just water to drink. With extra lemon wedges, please. Oh, and could we get more bread? But just the white rolls, not the other ones."

Then, the food comes out, at which point they would ask "Is there cilantro in the salad?" (Waiter nods his head yes). "Oh, OK. Yeah, I can't have any cilantro. I'll break out all over." (Waiter takes the salad back to the kitchen). "I'm pretty sure I told him no cilantro."

Meanwhile, I'm thinking "No you didn't. In the midst of your seven other special requests, you forgot that part."

So, you know my MIL as this is nearly verbatim to my post.

 

[Dezbelief]

It's not embarrassing, but it's annoying. My dad leaves the TV on in every room in the house when we go on vacation or visit his house or vice versa. At times the TV will be on in the Family Room, basement, his bedroom, and wherever else he can find one. Nobody around, no reason to leave it on, nobody watching it including him, and hell we might be leaving for dinner for a few hours. But dammit those TVs are not going off. He also watches QVC, which is in fact embarrassing.

Hmm... when I travel for work I don't think I turn off the TV (ESPN) for the duration of my hotel stay. Overnight included. I know I'm gonna want to watch it while I'm there and it's usually a process to turn the TV on, find the channel guide and then find ESPN. A lot of hotels have TVs that have auto shut-off. Those suck.

Also, not a family member and bless his heart, but a GB of mine has a habit of asking the names of bartenders or servers whenever we go out. And he always says it like... "and your first name again?" I guess it's to establish some kind of rapport but it's kinda funny / semi-embarrassing.

The sleep timer is on, you can go into settings and turn it off.

 

[ChiefD]

A bad habit of mine that I have to be conscious of, that pisses my wife off, is not to walk in front of her when leaving a restaurant. Not sure why I do that and I’m trying not to do it. I try to walk next to her or behind her. That is good manners.

If we are doing some self-introspection, I'm terrible at introducing my wife to people and it drives her nuts. It's not intentional, I just forget and immediately start talking to the person about some issue.

I introduce my wife to everyone hoping the person I am introducing her to will also say THEIR name since I am terrible at remembering names.

 

[ChiefD]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

I trust that was a last and final date. She revealed who she was.

 

[El Floppo]

A bad habit of mine that I have to be conscious of, that pisses my wife off, is not to walk in front of her when leaving a restaurant. Not sure why I do that and I’m trying not to do it. I try to walk next to her or behind her. That is good manners.

If we are doing some self-introspection, I'm terrible at introducing my wife to people and it drives her nuts. It's not intentional, I just forget and immediately start talking to the person about some issue.

I introduce my wife to everyone hoping the person I am introducing her to will also say THEIR name since I am terrible at remembering names.

Ditto

 

[rockaction]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

I realized how old school I was when I began to notice things like that. I realized I was even more old school when it sorta bothered me (not the hat thing, but other archaisms).

 

[Jayrod]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

 

[Dezbelief]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

I was recently on a tour of a state capital. I was asked to remove my hat before the tour entered the house floor.

 

[General Malaise]

I haven't read through this topic, but the opening post made me think of someone I know, and their ordering habits when eating out. It is virtually IMPOSSIBLE for them to order anything without somehow altering the menu item. And, usually, the item is altered in no less than 4-5 ways. Example....

"I'd like the Asian Chicken Salad. No onions, please. And, could I get the mandarin oranges on the side? Is there any way I could get extra mandarin oranges? Also, instead of the regular Asian dressing, could I get ranch? Oh, and make that extra ranch. On the side, please. Just water to drink. With extra lemon wedges, please. Oh, and could we get more bread? But just the white rolls, not the other ones."

Then, the food comes out, at which point they would ask "Is there cilantro in the salad?" (Waiter nods his head yes). "Oh, OK. Yeah, I can't have any cilantro. I'll break out all over." (Waiter takes the salad back to the kitchen). "I'm pretty sure I told him no cilantro."

Meanwhile, I'm thinking "No you didn't. In the midst of your seven other special requests, you forgot that part."

Secondly, drivers who follow too closely and cause everyone behind them to brake every 5 seconds.

Try dining with a vegan. Talk about 10,000 questions.

Dining? Try being married to one.

 

[Jayrod]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

I was recently on a tour of a state capital. I was asked to remove my hat before the tour entered the house floor.

In full confession, I cannot leave my hat on when praying or during worship time at church. I've tried because I think it is legalistic but my skin crawls and I always take it off. I do wear a hat in church and leave it on during the sermon.

I guess the whole National Anthem thing as well. I would expect men wouldn't wear a hat at a funeral, a wedding or in court either.

Maybe it is just that the dinner table isn't as important or sacred an occasion?

 

[rockaction]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

I was recently on a tour of a state capital. I was asked to remove my hat before the tour entered the house floor.

In full confession, I cannot leave my hat on when praying or during worship time at church. I've tried because I think it is legalistic but my skin crawls and I always take it off. I do wear a hat in church and leave it on during the sermon.

I guess the whole National Anthem thing as well. I would expect men wouldn't wear a hat at a funeral, a wedding or in court either.

Maybe it is just that the dinner table isn't as important or sacred an occasion?

Jayrod, you are much more religious than I am but please take the hat off in church. You might not care, but if not out of propriety’s sake then because they’re talking about you in the car and telling their kids to “not be like Jayrod” when they’re at the dinner table or out to dinner.

Then again, I think tradition and manners are absolutely pillars of order and decency and you just don’t kick out particular ones without serious assurance that they’re the right ones to kick out. Hats are pretty benign, but there’s a sense of majesty, respect, and awe that you’re feeling and conveying to others, especially impressionable ones. They need the order and the attention to punctilio. Nobody is giving them that these days. You can help be that guy in that community that is being better.

Be a living example of the ordered and directed soul that shows every possible respect to that which you yourself hold sacred. You believe in a nature, a soul, an ordered one with a direction towards the ultimate, both in spirit and nature.

If you are bald or your hair is unsightly, think of Christ washing leprous feet—and look at pictures of leprosy—and you’ll get over it in a second. Never forget about the warnings against comfort and the first cardinal sin of pride.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

I realized how old school I was when I began to notice things like that. I realized I was even more old school when it sorta bothered me (not the hat thing, but other archaisms).

I hate strict dress codes, but it always bothered me that a woman who used to report to me would sometimes wear T-shirts to the office. I'm all for business casual, but that's not it.

Eventually I said to my boss (a woman), "I think it's odd that she does this and I can't imagine I'm the only one. If anyone from above ever makes a stink about it, I would like you to address it with her because I am not comfortable telling a woman what she can and can't wear." No one from above ever made a stink about it, and she left during the pandemic.

I did find it amusing that in advance of the company's return-to-office-for-2-days-a-week policy, HR sent out a memo reminding people what should not be worn in the office (T-shirts were on the list). I suspect that was because we have quite a few employees who were hired out of college during the pandemic and had never worked in an office until this year.

 

[comfortably numb]

Get belligerently drunk and start spouting pollical tirades to the point its time to shut it down...cause we can't have nice things

 

[Zow]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

I was recently on a tour of a state capital. I was asked to remove my hat before the tour entered the house floor.

In full confession, I cannot leave my hat on when praying or during worship time at church. I've tried because I think it is legalistic but my skin crawls and I always take it off. I do wear a hat in church and leave it on during the sermon.

I guess the whole National Anthem thing as well. I would expect men wouldn't wear a hat at a funeral, a wedding or in court either.

Maybe it is just that the dinner table isn't as important or sacred an occasion?

I almost posted about this earlier. I went to church (Catholic - albeit at a Newman center church so a bit more "liberal") this past weekend and saw several men wearing baseball hats. I even knew one of them and knew him to be a successful guy and the local golf coach, professional, etc. He even sat front row and nobody said anything.

When I was a good Catholic boy attending east coast churches, a priest would have stopped the mass to tell a guy to take a his hat off. Genuinely surprised me that this wasn't a big deal this past Sunday.

I grew up being told "no hats at the dinner table" so I still abide by that but doubt I'd care or even notice if somebody wore a hat at my table. I do take my hat off during the national anthem but I am philosophically opposed to the required recital of the National Anthem (and generally oppose any sort of national anthems or pledges) so I wouldn't care if somebody left theirs on.

 

[Jayrod]

Jayrod, you are much more religious than I am but please take the hat off in church. You might not care, but if not out of propriety’s sake then because they’re talking about you in the car and telling their kids to “not be like Jayrod” when they’re at the dinner table or out to dinner.

Then again, I think tradition and manners are absolutely pillars of order and decency and you just don’t kick out particular ones without serious assurance that they’re the right ones to kick out. Hats are pretty benign, but there’s a sense of majesty, respect, and awe that you’re feeling and conveying to others, especially impressionable ones. They need the order and the attention to punctilio. Nobody is giving them that these days. You can help be that guy in that community that is being better.

Be a living example of the ordered and directed soul that shows every possible respect to that which you yourself hold sacred. You believe in a nature, a soul, an ordered one with a direction towards the ultimate, both in spirit and nature.

If you are bald or your hair is unsightly, think of Christ washing leprous feet—and look at pictures of leprosy—and you’ll get over it in a second. Never forget about the warnings against comfort and the first cardinal sin of pride.

I understand what you are saying. I am still of age that I remove/don't wear a hat often for many of the things I mentioned above, including active prayer and times of worship. I also don't think I've ever worn a hat on a Sunday morning for those traditional reasons. But on a Wednesday night or some special Friday night or Saturday service I'll have one on occasionally as a matter of style or convenience. I don't feel it diminishes my walk with God in any way or His work in the church body. I may at some point feel differently, but this is actually something I've put some thought into.

That said, there has been a large push over the past few decades to remove the ideas of church being filled with superficial rules, which I believe "no hats" falls squarely in that category. Our church has made a conscious decision to move beyond formal dress (pastor used to wear suit and tie & choir wore robes) and make the church a casual environment so as to welcome everyone as they are. It is heavily focused on outreach to the lost and anyone that would get in the car and tells their kids to "not be like Jayrod" left our church years ago because that in no way is what our church does. We have members of the worship team on stage wearing hats on occasion and a lot of young staff members wearing hats, even on Sundays. I think our drummer wears a hat more often than not.

Christ washing feet (never a reference to lepers feet, just his disciples) was about the Lord showing how to humble yourself, not be concerned with pomp and circumstance and love and serve others no matter what your position. He was modeling servant leadership in a fashion that didn't presuppose anything based on social status. He was their leader and the night before he died he chose to stoop down and get on the ground and do for them what only a lowly servant did in those days, including Judas who he knew was to betray him. It was 100% about love and in a way the move towards allowing hats and T-shirts and shorts in church embodies that more than towing some man made line about appropriate attire for worship.

 

[-fish-]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

I was recently on a tour of a state capital. I was asked to remove my hat before the tour entered the house floor.

In full confession, I cannot leave my hat on when praying or during worship time at church. I've tried because I think it is legalistic but my skin crawls and I always take it off. I do wear a hat in church and leave it on during the sermon.

I guess the whole National Anthem thing as well. I would expect men wouldn't wear a hat at a funeral, a wedding or in court either.

Maybe it is just that the dinner table isn't as important or sacred an occasion?

I almost posted about this earlier. I went to church (Catholic - albeit at a Newman center church so a bit more "liberal") this past weekend and saw several men wearing baseball hats. I even knew one of them and knew him to be a successful guy and the local golf coach, professional, etc. He even sat front row and nobody said anything.

When I was a good Catholic boy attending east coast churches, a priest would have stopped the mass to tell a guy to take a his hat off. Genuinely surprised me that this wasn't a big deal this past Sunday.

I grew up being told "no hats at the dinner table" so I still abide by that but doubt I'd care or even notice if somebody wore a hat at my table. I do take my hat off during the national anthem but I am philosophically opposed to the required recital of the National Anthem (and generally oppose any sort of national anthems or pledges) so I wouldn't care if somebody left theirs on.

Taking off your hat indoors was historically a sign of respect to the host. It's impolite not to, whether it's church, someone's house, whatever. Particularly at a dinner table.

My golf club has a dress code that includes no hats indoors...they aren't going to throw you out over it, but the bartenders won't serve you if you have a hat on. Same thing as removing your hat after a round of golf to shake hands with your playing partners. It's respectful and just being polite.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Some of this stuff is grounds for divorce. Well WELL done steak? With ketchup?

That's irreconcilable differences.

 

[Zow]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

I was recently on a tour of a state capital. I was asked to remove my hat before the tour entered the house floor.

In full confession, I cannot leave my hat on when praying or during worship time at church. I've tried because I think it is legalistic but my skin crawls and I always take it off. I do wear a hat in church and leave it on during the sermon.

I guess the whole National Anthem thing as well. I would expect men wouldn't wear a hat at a funeral, a wedding or in court either.

Maybe it is just that the dinner table isn't as important or sacred an occasion?

I almost posted about this earlier. I went to church (Catholic - albeit at a Newman center church so a bit more "liberal") this past weekend and saw several men wearing baseball hats. I even knew one of them and knew him to be a successful guy and the local golf coach, professional, etc. He even sat front row and nobody said anything.

When I was a good Catholic boy attending east coast churches, a priest would have stopped the mass to tell a guy to take a his hat off. Genuinely surprised me that this wasn't a big deal this past Sunday.

I grew up being told "no hats at the dinner table" so I still abide by that but doubt I'd care or even notice if somebody wore a hat at my table. I do take my hat off during the national anthem but I am philosophically opposed to the required recital of the National Anthem (and generally oppose any sort of national anthems or pledges) so I wouldn't care if somebody left theirs on.

Taking off your hat indoors was historically a sign of respect to the host. It's impolite not to, whether it's church, someone's house, whatever. Particularly at a dinner table.

My golf club has a dress code that includes no hats indoors...they aren't going to throw you out over it, but the bartenders won't serve you if you have a hat on. Same thing as removing your hat after a round of golf to shake hands with your playing partners. It's respectful and just being polite.

Wow. I definitely take my hat off on the 18th green for the handshake but I haven't seen the bold occur in the private clubs I've been in.

Local highest end club does require a dinner jacket at certain times but they'll generally supply you with one.

 

[Drunken knight]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

My father THINKS he likes his steak medium or medium rare. In reality, he is a medium well guy.

A steak is almost always going back when we go out.

Less egregious is that he puts a lot salt on everything before tasting it.

 

[rockaction]

Jayrod, you are much more religious than I am but please take the hat off in church. You might not care, but if not out of propriety’s sake then because they’re talking about you in the car and telling their kids to “not be like Jayrod” when they’re at the dinner table or out to dinner.

Then again, I think tradition and manners are absolutely pillars of order and decency and you just don’t kick out particular ones without serious assurance that they’re the right ones to kick out. Hats are pretty benign, but there’s a sense of majesty, respect, and awe that you’re feeling and conveying to others, especially impressionable ones. They need the order and the attention to punctilio. Nobody is giving them that these days. You can help be that guy in that community that is being better.

Be a living example of the ordered and directed soul that shows every possible respect to that which you yourself hold sacred. You believe in a nature, a soul, an ordered one with a direction towards the ultimate, both in spirit and nature.

If you are bald or your hair is unsightly, think of Christ washing leprous feet—and look at pictures of leprosy—and you’ll get over it in a second. Never forget about the warnings against comfort and the first cardinal sin of pride.

I understand what you are saying. I am still of age that I remove/don't wear a hat often for many of the things I mentioned above, including active prayer and times of worship. I also don't think I've ever worn a hat on a Sunday morning for those traditional reasons. But on a Wednesday night or some special Friday night or Saturday service I'll have one on occasionally as a matter of style or convenience. I don't feel it diminishes my walk with God in any way or His work in the church body. I may at some point feel differently, but this is actually something I've put some thought into.

That said, there has been a large push over the past few decades to remove the ideas of church being filled with superficial rules, which I believe "no hats" falls squarely in that category. Our church has made a conscious decision to move beyond formal dress (pastor used to wear suit and tie & choir wore robes) and make the church a casual environment so as to welcome everyone as they are. It is heavily focused on outreach to the lost and anyone that would get in the car and tells their kids to "not be like Jayrod" left our church years ago because that in no way is what our church does. We have members of the worship team on stage wearing hats on occasion and a lot of young staff members wearing hats, even on Sundays. I think our drummer wears a hat more often than not.

Christ washing feet (never a reference to lepers feet, just his disciples) was about the Lord showing how to humble yourself, not be concerned with pomp and circumstance and love and serve others no matter what your position. He was modeling servant leadership in a fashion that didn't presuppose anything based on social status. He was their leader and the night before he died he chose to stoop down and get on the ground and do for them what only a lowly servant did in those days, including Judas who he knew was to betray him. It was 100% about love and in a way the move towards allowing hats and T-shirts and shorts in church embodies that more than towing some man made line about appropriate attire for worship.

But, Dude, I rented that soap box for like $30 a paragraph. If I want Jesus washing leper feet then Jesus is washing leper feet. My lap dances come with moralizing tendentiousness and rescue attempts. Now shake that **** like your *** is on fire.

 

[ChiefD]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

I trust that was a last and final date. She revealed who she was.

Well, after the sex of course.

 

[JohnnyU]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

I trust that was a last and final date. She revealed who she was.

Well, after the sex of course.

First date sex answers the question best.

 

[-fish-]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

I trust that was a last and final date. She revealed who she was.

Well, after the sex of course.

with the old German waitress. she knows her stuff.

 

[-fish-]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

I was recently on a tour of a state capital. I was asked to remove my hat before the tour entered the house floor.

In full confession, I cannot leave my hat on when praying or during worship time at church. I've tried because I think it is legalistic but my skin crawls and I always take it off. I do wear a hat in church and leave it on during the sermon.

I guess the whole National Anthem thing as well. I would expect men wouldn't wear a hat at a funeral, a wedding or in court either.

Maybe it is just that the dinner table isn't as important or sacred an occasion?

I almost posted about this earlier. I went to church (Catholic - albeit at a Newman center church so a bit more "liberal") this past weekend and saw several men wearing baseball hats. I even knew one of them and knew him to be a successful guy and the local golf coach, professional, etc. He even sat front row and nobody said anything.

When I was a good Catholic boy attending east coast churches, a priest would have stopped the mass to tell a guy to take a his hat off. Genuinely surprised me that this wasn't a big deal this past Sunday.

I grew up being told "no hats at the dinner table" so I still abide by that but doubt I'd care or even notice if somebody wore a hat at my table. I do take my hat off during the national anthem but I am philosophically opposed to the required recital of the National Anthem (and generally oppose any sort of national anthems or pledges) so I wouldn't care if somebody left theirs on.

Taking off your hat indoors was historically a sign of respect to the host. It's impolite not to, whether it's church, someone's house, whatever. Particularly at a dinner table.

My golf club has a dress code that includes no hats indoors...they aren't going to throw you out over it, but the bartenders won't serve you if you have a hat on. Same thing as removing your hat after a round of golf to shake hands with your playing partners. It's respectful and just being polite.

Wow. I definitely take my hat off on the 18th green for the handshake but I haven't seen the bold occur in the private clubs I've been in.

Local highest end club does require a dinner jacket at certain times but they'll generally supply you with one.

It's not a big deal. They'll point at their head as a reminder to take off the hat. But they won't serve you with a hat on. This place just recently allowed jeans in the dining room.

 

[-fish-]

I will wear a hat in a dive bar, so apparently there are boundaries to my hypocrisy.

 

[Zow]

My granddaughter’s boyfriend wearing a hat at our dinner table. I only had to tell him once.

Wait, what? I guess if you are old enough to have a granddaughter who dates that makes some sense but that is about the most old fashioned thing I've seen around these parts.

My granddaughter is 25 years old. It’s good manners to take your hat off at the table. I don’t care at the bar and grille, but at Thanksgiving dinner at my table, then no hat. I also see people wearing a hat at a fine dining restaurant and I think that is bad manners. Sports bar type places, or dive places are fine wearing a hat while eating, or sitting outside. Good manner are becoming a thing of the past.

I get it and I think most everyone above a certain age had that ingrained in their heads. My grandparents and my mother-in-law (74) have made comments before.

I imagine it came from some concept based on who wore hats and why (they were mostly worn outdoors and were utilitarian) but that has faded from our society. Nowadays hats are mostly fashion accessories. I think of them similar to watches, jewelry or hair bows. We don't require people to take those things off at the table so why hats?

I was recently on a tour of a state capital. I was asked to remove my hat before the tour entered the house floor.

In full confession, I cannot leave my hat on when praying or during worship time at church. I've tried because I think it is legalistic but my skin crawls and I always take it off. I do wear a hat in church and leave it on during the sermon.

I guess the whole National Anthem thing as well. I would expect men wouldn't wear a hat at a funeral, a wedding or in court either.

Maybe it is just that the dinner table isn't as important or sacred an occasion?

I almost posted about this earlier. I went to church (Catholic - albeit at a Newman center church so a bit more "liberal") this past weekend and saw several men wearing baseball hats. I even knew one of them and knew him to be a successful guy and the local golf coach, professional, etc. He even sat front row and nobody said anything.

When I was a good Catholic boy attending east coast churches, a priest would have stopped the mass to tell a guy to take a his hat off. Genuinely surprised me that this wasn't a big deal this past Sunday.

I grew up being told "no hats at the dinner table" so I still abide by that but doubt I'd care or even notice if somebody wore a hat at my table. I do take my hat off during the national anthem but I am philosophically opposed to the required recital of the National Anthem (and generally oppose any sort of national anthems or pledges) so I wouldn't care if somebody left theirs on.

Taking off your hat indoors was historically a sign of respect to the host. It's impolite not to, whether it's church, someone's house, whatever. Particularly at a dinner table.

My golf club has a dress code that includes no hats indoors...they aren't going to throw you out over it, but the bartenders won't serve you if you have a hat on. Same thing as removing your hat after a round of golf to shake hands with your playing partners. It's respectful and just being polite.

Wow. I definitely take my hat off on the 18th green for the handshake but I haven't seen the bold occur in the private clubs I've been in.

Local highest end club does require a dinner jacket at certain times but they'll generally supply you with one.

It's not a big deal. They'll point at their head as a reminder to take off the hat. But they won't serve you with a hat on. This place just recently allowed jeans in the dining room.

Funny - every private club I know will permit hats but not jeans.

 

[gianmarco]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

I trust that was a last and final date. She revealed who she was.

Well, after the sex of course.

With the German waitress?

 

[ChiefD]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

I trust that was a last and final date. She revealed who she was.

Well, after the sex of course.

With the German waitress?

She was happy with my weinerschnitzel

 

[Zow]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

I trust that was a last and final date. She revealed who she was.

Well, after the sex of course.

With the German waitress?

She was happy with my weinerschnitzel

She probably thought you were a brat.

 

[gianmarco]

My wife orders her steak "well WELL" done.. as if one "well" isn't enough.

SIL teams them to burn it. When we went to a high end steakhouse the waiter told her they won’t burn her steak.

Totally unrelated but similar:

Took a date to a high end steakhouse in Kansas City. She ordered her steak fine - medium. But then asked for steak sauce.

The old german waitress looked at her and in a thick accent said:

“This is one of the finest steaks in the world. I bring no steak sauce.”


I smiled inside.

I trust that was a last and final date. She revealed who she was.

Well, after the sex of course.

With the German waitress?

She was happy with my weinerschnitzel

She probably thought you were a brat.

That's the wurst.