"If you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, its yo (2 Viewers)

[identikit]

After about 15 minutes, I feel a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Alyssa...."Can I ask you something? Why do you keep contacting my family?"

did you explain to her how this was a cultural thing?

And seriously, whoTF takes a nap at someone's party?

Guys who eat corndogs for lunch in public.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

the party nap was good shtick.

 

[bshell27]

Am I the only one picturing Lebron James in these stories? This thread has probably done more to damage the reputation of LBJ than 'The Decision'

That's what I have been focusing on. That picture couldn't sum up 16's personality any better.

 

[bshell27]

After about 15 minutes, I feel a gentle tap on my shoulder. It was Alyssa...."Can I ask you something? Why do you keep contacting my family?"

did you explain to her how this was a cultural thing?

And seriously, whoTF takes a nap at someone's party?

Ultimate way to show indifference to her presence. Good play. /sarcasm

 

[belljr]

Don't listen to them No. 16. I was in a very similar situation. Living with my then girlfriend, we split up after a couple years, got back together after a few months, dated again for a few years and she is now my wife. We have been married for 10 years now.

The only difference is she wasn't cheating and getting plowed by a PT when we split up. I ended it really for no reason then not wanting to take "the next step" and regretted the decision immediately.

But other than that it's pretty much the same.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there.

It just occurred to me that the ex is presumably still on vacation. Which means that No. 16 is posting his new luvy-duvy updates literally at the same time that she is getting plowed by the PT in a hotel room hundreds of miles away. That makes this whole thing a little more disturbing.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

seems like all those trips to the gym really paid off.

 

[phatdawg]

I love this thread. I can't let it go.

Has there been disappointment? Sure.

Have I wanted to close it and never look at it again? Absolutely.

But ultimately, 16 always comes through for me on a boring work day.

I think this thread may be my Alyssa.

God bless you 16.

 

[Gr00vus]

and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there.

It just occurred to me that the ex is presumably still on vacation. Which means that No. 16 is posting his new luvy-duvy updates literally at the same time that she is getting plowed by the PT in a hotel room hundreds of miles away. That makes this whole thing a little more disturbing.

I wonder if she's wearing coral for the PT while on vacation.

 

[The_Man]

Some highlights:

We knocked, a friend opened the door, I took of my shoes, and then entered the apartment.

This an Asian thing?

After I settled into a chair at the dinner table filled with alcohol, shot glasses, burritos, and salsa where everyone congregated. There was an empty seat next to me and after a quick inventory of the guests...I figured out who it belonged to and just like that I heard the flush of the toilet

Guess she had too many burritos.

For the first couple of hours, things were fine. We even exchanged some small talk about work and updating each other about our families.

Joke’s on her! You already know everything going on with her family because you won’t stop calling them.

This conversation repeated on loop for what seemed like forever, until we reached my car. Once we got inside...her in the passenger seat and me in the driver's seat the discussion continued.

Did you have to blow into the alcohol sensor to unlock the passenger door?

We discussed why we broke up, what we were feeling, how our lives were now. Just everything that we had held inside for the past 6 months. Things that oddly, even though we were no longer together, they were things that we felt only comfortable telling each other even though we had the support of our friends.

“Things that her PT boyfriend can’t be bothered to hear her yapping about, even as he sinks balls-deep into her every night, that she gets to unload on me instead.”

We probably would have hugged each other all night, but then she received a phone call from my GB's GF. My GB and his sister's BF were getting into a fight.

Let me make sure I have this straight. Your friend was getting in a fight with his sister’s boyfriend, so your friend’s girlfriend called her? Actually, never mind, it doesn’t matter. Because there was no fight and she was just calling to get your ex away from you.

07/04/12 6:01 AM

Sorry I don’t follow. Does this mean the text came at 0601 on 07/04/12?

 

[DA RAIDERS]

16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.

Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.

It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.

wait......you guys cried in your car on the 3rd, you saw her on the 4th, went to dinner on the 5th, and saw her again on the 6th? and now she sucking the PT's ####? and you never hit it over those 4 days? you sorry ####### loser. sorry dude. you're a spineless loser that is ##### whipped beyond belief. you have ignored our advice, you deserve the pain that is coming. good luck.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

does the PT utilize the shocker?

 

[The_Man]

After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while.

Won't her mom be disappointed if you don't come to her birthday party?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while.

Won't her mom be disappointed if you don't come to her birthday party?

 

[bshell27]

wait......you guys cried in your car on the 3rd, you saw her on the 4th, went to dinner on the 5th, and saw her again on the 6th? and now she sucking the PT's ####? and you never hit it over those 4 days? you sorry ####### loser. sorry dude. you're a spineless loser that is ##### whipped beyond belief. you have ignored our advice, you deserve the pain that is coming. good luck.

Coors Light Cold Hard Fact of the day

 

[gianmarco]

Let me see if this sums it all up:

Alyssa breaks up with No. 16 and he doesn't know why

We find out why

Then he starts partying too much

And gets in trouble

He meets a cutie at work but blows it

Although he does meet a HI girl coke dealer who may now be the mother of his children

At least now he has time to start improving himself as he completely forgets about her

Although he does have to say his goodbyes to her parents---cultural thing

And refuses to give FIDO back

The wedding arrives....he's there with his boys

Of course, he looks better than any of them

While the girls aren't having nearly as much fun

And then he sees her...in the coral dress

And again at another party

And they realize this is where it's meant to be

Except now she's back with the PT and he's posting here....

Did I miss anything major?

 

[belljr]

And gets in trouble - fix this one please

 

[The_Man]

All of these were great, but this is my favorite

Of course, he looks better than any of them

 

[valhallan]

He meets a cutie at work but blows it

 

[gianmarco]

Man, how could I forget this

 

[Johnny Rock]

 

[belljr]

So I must have missed some pages, apparently 16 is teh Asian

 

[derek245583]

I've been active in the FFA for well over a decade now, and I honestly can't recall a time when literally everybody in a thread agreed on something, yet that seems to be happening in this thread. I mean, the Kate Upton thread actually contains people saying that she's not really that hot -- that's how many contrarians we have around here who argue just for the sake of arguing. But nobody is even trying to make the case the No. 16 is acting prudently or reasonably here. Not one person. This may be a first.

I will have to plow back through the thread pt style, but I remember one person advocating getting her back.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Did I miss anything major?

susan?

 

[Zegras11]

16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.

Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.

It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.

Wake the #### up.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

He meets a cutie at work but blows it

 

[Maude]

And again at another party

I like this one.

 

[bushdocda]

Did I miss anything major?

susan?

Molly?One armed girl?Tremendous work here.

 

[No. 16]

For the record I never contacted her parents. It was just a desire that never materialized after bringing it up to you guys. Since that time her sister had been contacting me and initiating all contact.

The latest update was the hardest to type because I knew this would be the response. I even thought of never replying again...but #### you guys have been here since the beginning and I've told the truth since the beginning so glad some people are getting a kick out of this.

It is what it is. The story of my life. Where ever this goes just know you guys will get the 100% truth.

 

[SteevieG]

I've been active in the FFA for well over a decade now, and I honestly can't recall a time when literally everybody in a thread agreed on something, yet that seems to be happening in this thread. I mean, the Kate Upton thread actually contains people saying that she's not really that hot -- that's how many contrarians we have around here who argue just for the sake of arguing. But nobody is even trying to make the case the No. 16 is acting prudently or reasonably here. Not one person. This may be a first.

I will have to plow back through the thread pt style, but I remember one person advocating getting her back.

I believe it was EYlive but I remember him being the one who always said he be getting back with her when 16 was in the depths of despair. I don't think he was suggesting it was a good thing. But that was probably 30 pages ago so I don't remember exactly.

 

[No. 16]

16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.

Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.

It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.

wait......you guys cried in your car on the 3rd, you saw her on the 4th, went to dinner on the 5th, and saw her again on the 6th? and now she sucking the PT's ####? and you never hit it over those 4 days? you sorry ####### loser. sorry dude. you're a spineless loser that is ##### whipped beyond belief. you have ignored our advice, you deserve the pain that is coming. good luck.

Believe me I tried. We were dry humping and I was fingering her after dinner on the 5th but she stopped it when I tried to advance further. She's genuinely terrified I have an STD. She won't even share a drink with me. Haha. It's funny to hear what she thinks I've been doing. She honestly thinks I'm a man whore.

 

[derek245583]

16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.

Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.

It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.

wait......you guys cried in your car on the 3rd, you saw her on the 4th, went to dinner on the 5th, and saw her again on the 6th? and now she sucking the PT's ####? and you never hit it over those 4 days? you sorry ####### loser. sorry dude. you're a spineless loser that is ##### whipped beyond belief. you have ignored our advice, you deserve the pain that is coming. good luck.

Believe me I tried. We were dry humping and I was fingering her after dinner on the 5th but she stopped it when I tried to advance further. She's genuinely terrified I have an STD. She won't even share a drink with me. Haha. It's funny to hear what she thinks I've been doing. She honestly thinks I'm a man whore.

 

[Angry Beavers]

She does not think you are a man whore. What she thinks is that you are a sucker for putting up with her nonsense.

She is just stringing you along some more letting you think that you are getting somewhere. Have you asked her why if she misses you soooooooooooooo much that she did not cancel her vacation with the PT? Double Standard there for certain.

I think amongst all the terrific humor is the cold hard truth that we have all been there at some point with some broad we were gaga over. Take the collective wisdom of the FFA and run away as fast as you can. NOTHING good can come from this. Seriously. NOTHING.

 

[James Daulton]

16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.

Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.

It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.

wait......you guys cried in your car on the 3rd, you saw her on the 4th, went to dinner on the 5th, and saw her again on the 6th? and now she sucking the PT's ####? and you never hit it over those 4 days? you sorry ####### loser. sorry dude. you're a spineless loser that is ##### whipped beyond belief. you have ignored our advice, you deserve the pain that is coming. good luck.

Believe me I tried. We were dry humping and I was fingering her after dinner on the 5th but she stopped it when I tried to advance further. She's genuinely terrified I have an STD. She won't even share a drink with me. Haha. It's funny to hear what she thinks I've been doing. She honestly thinks I'm a man whore.

Can you anwer a simple question please. How can you possibly take her back, knowing that she left you for some other guy and is currently on vacation with the same guy? At some point you have to have some pride, right? Also, whenever you're with her, won't you be thinking of the ripped-up dude she left you for and who plowed her for many months? It'd be different if you could simply jump in, have some fun, then jump out. But you have genuine feelings for this chick. If you were my kid, I'd scream "Have Some Self Respect!"

 

[rail]

16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.

Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.

It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.

wait......you guys cried in your car on the 3rd, you saw her on the 4th, went to dinner on the 5th, and saw her again on the 6th? and now she sucking the PT's ####? and you never hit it over those 4 days? you sorry ####### loser. sorry dude. you're a spineless loser that is ##### whipped beyond belief. you have ignored our advice, you deserve the pain that is coming. good luck.

Believe me I tried. We were dry humping and I was fingering her after dinner on the 5th but she stopped it when I tried to advance further. She's genuinely terrified I have an STD. She won't even share a drink with me. Haha. It's funny to hear what she thinks I've been doing. She honestly thinks I'm a man whore.

Wait, what? Now you're the bad guy? This girl is good.And you are dumb.

 

[jomar]

We were dry humping and I was fingering her after dinner on the 5th but she stopped it when I tried to advance further. She's genuinely terrified I have an STD. She won't even share a drink with me. Haha.

dude....you are a better man than I. this might have set me off. I'd suggest to her that she get tested as well. whore is terrified of you having the std? granted, she could be right but SHE is the one who was boning a dude behind your back. who knows what that guy has?ah well, who cares? she's stringing you along pretty good and you're buying hook, line and sinker. 99% chance this doesn't end pretty but keep holding out for that 1%, you hopeless romantic, you.

 

[bshell27]

"She honestly thinks I'm a man whore."

Holy ####!!!!!! You just stuck your fingers in P/T putty but she is worried about where you have been?

GL with the rest of the story I am out. You should have called her out on it and ended it right there. You are hopeless.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Fapfapfapfap

 

[DA RAIDERS]

16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.

Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.

It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.

wait......you guys cried in your car on the 3rd, you saw her on the 4th, went to dinner on the 5th, and saw her again on the 6th? and now she sucking the PT's ####? and you never hit it over those 4 days? you sorry ####### loser. sorry dude. you're a spineless loser that is ##### whipped beyond belief. you have ignored our advice, you deserve the pain that is coming. good luck.

Believe me I tried. We were dry humping and I was fingering her after dinner on the 5th but she stopped it when I tried to advance further. She's genuinely terrified I have an STD. She won't even share a drink with me. Haha. It's funny to hear what she thinks I've been doing. She honestly thinks I'm a man whore.

You have of course told her everything you've done, right? while refusing to hear a single detail of her exploits witht he PT. Did you remind her that she's had the PT's poll in every one of her orifices? That she's had his 3-4 oz(he is a PT after all) swishing around her mouth? Man whore my ###.

 

[No. 16]

She does not think you are a man whore. What she thinks is that you are a sucker for putting up with her nonsense. She is just stringing you along some more letting you think that you are getting somewhere. Have you asked her why if she misses you soooooooooooooo much that she did not cancel her vacation with the PT? Double Standard there for certain.I think amongst all the terrific humor is the cold hard truth that we have all been there at some point with some broad we were gaga over. Take the collective wisdom of the FFA and run away as fast as you can. NOTHING good can come from this. Seriously. NOTHING.

She says she just needs the time to relax since her day to day life since we broke up has been terrible. Believe me I protested but hey I have some Vegas trips planned so it is what it is. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not (mid august, labor day weekend, and late September). I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...one of the biggest things weighing on her mind is if she should move back to SoCal to be near her family. She's actually already put a down payment on a house down there and had turned down a full time position at the hospital.Acording to her she was set on moving back until we started talking again.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Believe me I tried. We were dry humping and I was fingering her after dinner on the 5th but she stopped it when I tried to advance further. She's genuinely terrified I have an STD. She won't even share a drink with me. Haha. It's funny to hear what she thinks I've been doing. She honestly thinks I'm a man whore.

Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others originate those feelings.[1] Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted unconscious impulses or desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them. An example of this behavior might be blaming another for self failure. The mind may avoid the discomfort of consciously admitting personal faults by keeping those feelings unconscious, and by redirecting libidinal satisfaction by attaching, or "projecting," those same faults onto another person or object.

 

[placebo]

I must be as big of a sucker as #16 because I really thought he would get over her at some point.

I just don't get why anyone would stay with a cheater. You're always going to wonder about her even when things are good. She's going to know she can get away with just about any behavior and take advantage of it. Everyone wants a 10/10 relationship right? Even best case scenario, this one's not getting there.

 

[valhallan]

it is what it is

..and it has been since day one of this thread.

 

[jomar]

She says she just needs the time to relax since her day to day life since we broke up has been terrible. Believe me I protested but hey I have some Vegas trips planned so it is what it is. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not (mid august, labor day weekend, and late September). I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...one of the biggest things weighing on her mind is if she should move back to SoCal to be near her family. She's actually already put a down payment on a house down there and had turned down a full time position at the hospital.Acording to her she was set on moving back until we started talking again.

oh, SHE needs the time to relax? then, by all means, go on vacation with this dude you cheated on me with. I'll be here waiting for you, dear.just stop with the vegas plans. you get back with this chick, which you seem hellbent on doing, you are not going to Vegas.

 

[Dragons]

She does not think you are a man whore. What she thinks is that you are a sucker for putting up with her nonsense. She is just stringing you along some more letting you think that you are getting somewhere. Have you asked her why if she misses you soooooooooooooo much that she did not cancel her vacation with the PT? Double Standard there for certain.I think amongst all the terrific humor is the cold hard truth that we have all been there at some point with some broad we were gaga over. Take the collective wisdom of the FFA and run away as fast as you can. NOTHING good can come from this. Seriously. NOTHING.

She says she just needs the time to relax since her day to day life since we broke up has been terrible. Believe me I protested but hey I have some Vegas trips planned so it is what it is. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not (mid august, labor day weekend, and late September). I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...one of the biggest things weighing on her mind is if she should move back to SoCal to be near her family. She's actually already put a down payment on a house down there and had turned down a full time position at the hospital.Acording to her she was set on moving back until we started talking again.

Your vegas trips /= her going on vacation with the guy she cheated on you with.

 

[Kenny Blankenship]

She does not think you are a man whore. What she thinks is that you are a sucker for putting up with her nonsense. She is just stringing you along some more letting you think that you are getting somewhere. Have you asked her why if she misses you soooooooooooooo much that she did not cancel her vacation with the PT? Double Standard there for certain.I think amongst all the terrific humor is the cold hard truth that we have all been there at some point with some broad we were gaga over. Take the collective wisdom of the FFA and run away as fast as you can. NOTHING good can come from this. Seriously. NOTHING.

She says she just needs the time to relax since her day to day life since we broke up has been terrible. Believe me I protested but hey I have some Vegas trips planned so it is what it is. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not (mid august, labor day weekend, and late September). I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...one of the biggest things weighing on her mind is if she should move back to SoCal to be near her family. She's actually already put a down payment on a house down there and had turned down a full time position at the hospital.Acording to her she was set on moving back until we started talking again.

Help her pack and tell her good luck in her future endeavors. We all know you are not going to do this but its the best advice I can give. This woman is playing you like a fiddle and you are falling for it. I went through a very similar situation and realized after it failed the second time how big of a chump I was being. Don't be a chump. Sure you are lonely and miss the companionship but its better than having a skank bang some other dude and call you out on STD's then screw with your emotions, which is what she is going to do until the next PT wants to take her for a ride. A woman will never respect a man who cant respect himself and she is going to enjoy walking all over you since she knows you will come crawling back. Its a shame, I was rooting for you but you sir made the wrong choice.

 

[Quint]

waitwaitwaitwaitwait.

she knows about all of your exploits post-breakup? and she believes you have an STD [haha?]? and she's going on vacation with the PT?

dude. look at this from the outside: her life is great. two guys (maybe more?) are fawning all over her. she gets "physical support" from the PT and emotional support from you (as much as you proclaim she doesn't). she may tell you how much she missed you and how much you mean to her, but she knows you're flat-out hooked on the idea of "us" happening again so there's no need for her to do more than throw her cat at you (and then pull it away) a couple of times to keep you on the chain. where is her motivation to change anything? she's gotta be LOLing her ### off at both you and the PT behind your backs with all her friends.

take control of your life.

 

[Slapdash]

16 > you are lying to yourself. You didn't have the self-control to abort, you wanted to see her again.

Exactly.Blocking her texts, but your 'curiosity' forces you to look at them. Keeping the dog.Wanting to talk to her parents.Spending hours dressing to impress/show her what she's missing.You're not over her; you want her back.

It's a slippery slope, I admit, but I truly did have the intentions to move on. Now I can't say that truthfully. We'll see where this goes. We hung out on the 4th before my BBQ started, had dinner on 5th, and then I saw her for a bit on the 6th before she left for "vacation"... yes the PT will be there. She said she would rather not go, but it's already paid for and since they're going in a such a large group it should be easy to avoid him. Whatever. After her vacation she'll stay home for a few more days for her mother's bday so we really haven't had much contact and won't for a while. In the mean time, I'm just seeing where this goes but also approaching it with a guarded heart. I'm still keeping all my plans to go to Vegas this summer and will actively keep looking online and in real life. She's just one of many now and while she does have an edge... it's not a lock. I don't know if I could ever trust her so we'll see. Downside, I get some regular action... upside... who knows.

wait......you guys cried in your car on the 3rd, you saw her on the 4th, went to dinner on the 5th, and saw her again on the 6th? and now she sucking the PT's ####? and you never hit it over those 4 days? you sorry ####### loser. sorry dude. you're a spineless loser that is ##### whipped beyond belief. you have ignored our advice, you deserve the pain that is coming. good luck.

Believe me I tried. We were dry humping and I was fingering her after dinner on the 5th but she stopped it when I tried to advance further. She's genuinely terrified I have an STD. She won't even share a drink with me. Haha. It's funny to hear what she thinks I've been doing. She honestly thinks I'm a man whore.

You've already been trapped. You've probably been trapped all along.

 

[JFT Ben]

She says she just needs the time to relax since her day to day life since we broke up has been terrible. Believe me I protested but hey I have some Vegas trips planned so it is what it is. I'm going on those trips whether she likes it or not (mid august, labor day weekend, and late September). I'll find out soon enough where our relationship stands...one of the biggest things weighing on her mind is if she should move back to SoCal to be near her family. She's actually already put a down payment on a house down there and had turned down a full time position at the hospital.Acording to her she was set on moving back until we started talking again.

No. 16, we all appreciate the honesty. That's the god honest truth.A few thoughts - you aren't together any more, and talked to her for a couple days. It doesn't mean you're back in a relationship with her, but it reads like you are ("I'm going whether she likes it or not" reads like you need to get permission from your non-girlfriend to go). For the love of your sanity, let her move back to SoCal and each of you start a non-codependent life again - clean break - let it happen.

 

[jomar]

I just don't get why anyone would stay with a cheater. You're always going to wonder about her even when things are good. She's going to know she can get away with just about any behavior and take advantage of it. Everyone wants a 10/10 relationship right? Even best case scenario, this one's not getting there.

I'll give 16 a glimmer of hope here. a friend of mine dated this girl through most of college. they graduated, got jobs, and she ended up cheating with a co-worker. He stayed with her and they eventually married. they now have two kids and have a seemingly happy life together. she's never cheated again and is a genuinely sweet girl who admittedly made a horrible mistake.of course, she didn't go to Hawaii with the co-worker or date him for months while stringing my buddy along. She told him about the tryst because she felt horrible about it, apologized profusely, begged him to not leave, and has been a great partner since. None of the manipulating I've seen in this thread, but anyway, just wanted to point out that cheaters can change. doesn't happen often, but it can happen.