I'm starting Harvin tonight...over (1 Viewer)

[Avery]

the point is simple. Harvin isn;t a #1 WR. He had a nice rookie season when S rice and Shiancoe were around to take the heat off, but the fact stands......Harvin is a great athlete and this site in particular has a massiva man-crush on his "elite talent". However, he still doesnt understand the playbook, runs wrong/poor routes and is constantly battling some nagging injury.

He is? We all know the risk of the migraine issues other than that, not to discount the potential severity of that issues, I don't remember anything but a sprained ankle.

yes. every single week there is a report about a migraine, a muscle pull, his heart stopped, etc etc. EVERY SINGLE WEEK!!

Really? You sure you're not exaggerating here based on a clear dislike you have for him for some reason?

i really like him. i want him to succeed. he battled migraines every week last year and all off-season. it is a fact.

I understand the fact that he has migraine issues. I think we all understand that fact.I also understand that the Vikings have brought in the best in the field this year to try to alleviate the issue. They say they believe they now have the issue under control. Believe it or not, but it's a fact his doctors said that.

Other than that, you mentioned Harvin is "constantly battling some nagging injury". Other than the migraines, which is a condition, what other injuries is he constantly battling?

 

[thatguythere]

the point is simple. Harvin isn;t a #1 WR. He had a nice rookie season when S rice and Shiancoe were around to take the heat off, but the fact stands......Harvin is a great athlete and this site in particular has a massiva man-crush on his "elite talent". However, he still doesnt understand the playbook, runs wrong/poor routes and is constantly battling some nagging injury.

He is? We all know the risk of the migraine issues other than that, not to discount the potential severity of that issues, I don't remember anything but a sprained ankle.

yes. the migraines dont count???

In the hospital after he collapsed this preseason, Harvin was diagnosed with sleep apnea and Dr.'s have determined that it was the underlying cause of his migraines. Harvin is off the meds for migraines and should be good to go as far as the migraine issue is concerned.

 

[thehornet]

Other than that, you mentioned Harvin is "constantly battling some nagging injury". Other than the migraines, which is a condition, what other injuries is he constantly battling?

why does it have to be something else?

 

[killrobotkill]

every single week there is a report about a migraine, a muscle pull, his heart stopped, etc etc. EVERY SINGLE WEEK!!

Other than that, you mentioned Harvin is "constantly battling some nagging injury". Other than the migraines, which is a condition, what other injuries is he constantly battling?

why does it have to be something else?

 

[thehornet]

every single week there is a report about a migraine, a muscle pull, his heart stopped, etc etc. EVERY SINGLE WEEK!!

Other than that, you mentioned Harvin is "constantly battling some nagging injury". Other than the migraines, which is a condition, what other injuries is he constantly battling?

why does it have to be something else?

im not going to do the research for you. this guy has an injury history dating back to florida. he was on the injury report alomst every week last year with migraines, ankle injuries in college and the pros, flu at the rookie symposium, heel injuries/surgery in the past, sore shoulder Week 5, 6 and 7last year.....the list goes on and on. its not a mystery.

 

[farroki]

When your heart stops during sleep due to sleep apnea, it can cause migraines throughout the day. He now sleeps with a C-Pap machine, and hasn't had migraines since.

I am confident that the migraines are behind him, and that he will hopefully produce like we expect him to come week 3 or so once he warms up his rapport with Favre.

I expect him to improve next week, but not tremendously. Maybe 3 or 4 catches for 50 or so yards. I do expect a very nice performance in week 3 however against Detroit.

 

[Avery]

every single week there is a report about a migraine, a muscle pull, his heart stopped, etc etc. EVERY SINGLE WEEK!!

Other than that, you mentioned Harvin is "constantly battling some nagging injury". Other than the migraines, which is a condition, what other injuries is he constantly battling?

why does it have to be something else?

im not going to do the research for you. this guy has an injury history dating back to florida. he was on the injury report alomst every week last year with migraines, ankle injuries in college and the pros, flu at the rookie symposium, heel injuries/surgery in the past, sore shoulder Week 5, 6 and 7last year.....the list goes on and on. its not a mystery.

You seem to not want a choose a stance here.First he has all sorts of injuries.Then it's just migraines, but those are bad.Now it's back to all sorts of injuries.I could be wrong, but aside from migraines he really doesn't have a significantly more daunting injury history above that would set him apart from most football players. If you claim it to be so, be prepared to back up your claims and backing away with "im not going to do the research for you" is pretty weak. Your assertion. Back it up.Again, I could be wrong but I'd like to see evidence to the contrary... and an occasional injury report is not evidence that he is a player who is "constantly battling some nagging injury". Brett Favre appears on the injury reports too.

 

[thehornet]

I could be wrong, but aside from migraines he really doesn't have a significantly more daunting injury history above that would set him apart from most football players. If you claim it to be so, be prepared to back up your claims and backing away with "im not going to do the research for you" is pretty weak. Your assertion. Back it up.Again, I could be wrong but I'd like to see evidence to the contrary... and an occasional injury report is not evidence that he is a player who is "constantly battling some nagging injury". Brett Favre appears on the injury reports too.

i just did back it up with everything i listed. harvin has injury problems. sorry you dont want to believe it.

 

[Avery]

I could be wrong, but aside from migraines he really doesn't have a significantly more daunting injury history above that would set him apart from most football players. If you claim it to be so, be prepared to back up your claims and backing away with "im not going to do the research for you" is pretty weak. Your assertion. Back it up.Again, I could be wrong but I'd like to see evidence to the contrary... and an occasional injury report is not evidence that he is a player who is "constantly battling some nagging injury". Brett Favre appears on the injury reports too.

i just did back it up with everything i listed. harvin has injury problems. sorry you dont want to believe it.

You listed some injuries he's had. That is not evidence that he is "constantly battling some nagging injury" any worse than any other football player and saying it's so doesn't make it so.Separated left shoulder, injured elbow, thigh bruise, sprained ankle, broken thumb, not to mention drug addictions. Does that prove that Favre is "constantly battling some nagging injury"? See what I did there?I'll let this go because it's becoming a pissing match and not adding anything to the conversation at this point.You want to assess that Harvin is some major injury risk including and in addition to his migraine issue and you saying it should be evidence enough to make it so. Fine.

 

[Clifford]

Knox, Smith(CAR) and Welker

Trifecta...ouch

 

[Sabertooth]

The Min offense looked pretty lost w/o Rice last night if you ask me. There was no other WR (not counting Shiancoe) that seemed capable of beating 1 on 1 coverage vs. even the Saints CBs, who while not horrible I don't think anyone would say are great. Harvin continues to be one of the most overrated players in fantasy right now IMO. He is light years from being a WR1 in the NFL.

well Light Years is a looooooooong time; even if singular. If I was going to bet on a player, and I did, it would be one who had already spent a year with a QB and turned in a ROY performance. Harvin obviously had a bad game and he and Favre (who skipped nearly all of training camp) were clearly not on the same page. This coaching staff leaves a lot to be desired though. Peterson comes out in the second half and runs his first touch for a first down then sees the ball out of the backfield two more times? Childress does not know how to put his players in a position to win. Why the heck isn't he using Harvin out of the backfield more getting him closer to the QB for the occasional hand off or dump pass. Harvin clearly has physical skills, not WR 1 skills (yet?), but he is a talented player worth rolling the dice on.

I disagree with the bolded.

 

[footballsavvy]

I love this thread. I'm soooo buying Harvin in all my leagues. The Saints have the best cornerbacks (duo) in the league and Malcom Jenkins is the real deal. They man up a ton allowing Harvin to be shadowed most of the night. Not many teams cna get away with this as much as the Saints. As the season rolls on Camarillo will get in a groove and other teams won't be as successful doing this without Camarillo making them pay for it. They made the Saints pay for it with Shianco until the Saints mad a pretty slick half time move. Even then, Favre only slightly over threw Shianco for yet another big play in the second half.Anyway, my point is that y'all are crazy if you think Harvin will suck all year. The Saints secondary is one of the best (if not the best) in the NFL. Harvin will get his routes/timing down and other teams won't be able to play them the way the Saints did without getting burned by other options.

Harvin also found himself singled up on LBs and Ss on occasions when they moved him to the slot and still didn't get open or simply ran the wrong pattern. Of course Harvin will have better games than this. I don't think anyone is saying this is dooms day. We are just stating the observations from last nights game.

Actually, it appears that a lot of people are saying this is doomsday.... unless you started reading the thread from the bottom up and replied when you got to my post.I don't expect anyone to give him to me for nothing, but I feel confident that I could get him at a 25-30% discount after last night.

 

[Clavin]

I've never hard about hearts stoppng during sleep apnea. That's pretty big. I have sleep anea, and my issue is with my breathing stopping (thus the CPAP which keeps the airway open). This lack of breathing affects oxygen to the brain and can have cardiac issues (see Reggie White). For mye, I can have the microsleeps (choking followed by brief waking to restart brathing0 10 or more time an hour, preventing deep sleep.

Your heart stopping for several seconds sounds rather fatal.

 

[John 14:6]

Actually, it appears that a lot of people are saying this is doomsday.... unless you started reading the thread from the bottom up and replied when you got to my post.I don't expect anyone to give him to me for nothing, but I feel confident that I could get him at a 25-30% discount after last night.

Just like every year people are over reacting to the first game of the season.

 

[jurb26]

Actually, it appears that a lot of people are saying this is doomsday.... unless you started reading the thread from the bottom up and replied when you got to my post.I don't expect anyone to give him to me for nothing, but I feel confident that I could get him at a 25-30% discount after last night.

Just like every year people are over reacting to the first game of the season.

No, I've read through this entire thread. I don't think anyone is saying it's dooms day. Maybe a few isolated overreactions but this thread is dominated by people thinking Harvin will bounce back and people hoping his price drops. Harvin's price inflated beyond any value when the news about Rice broke IMO. Far too many folks seemed to think that Harvin would simply take those targets and not look back. He never held any real value. I see people who are thinking this game may provide the proper regression in price to possible pursue Harvin again.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Is it too late to change my grade for the quality of this year's Shark Pool in Joe's thread?

 

[cheese]

I love this thread. I'm soooo buying Harvin in all my leagues. The Saints have the best cornerbacks (duo) in the league and Malcom Jenkins is the real deal. They man up a ton allowing Harvin to be shadowed most of the night. Not many teams cna get away with this as much as the Saints. As the season rolls on Camarillo will get in a groove and other teams won't be as successful doing this without Camarillo making them pay for it. They made the Saints pay for it with Shianco until the Saints mad a pretty slick half time move. Even then, Favre only slightly over threw Shianco for yet another big play in the second half.Anyway, my point is that y'all are crazy if you think Harvin will suck all year. The Saints secondary is one of the best (if not the best) in the NFL. Harvin will get his routes/timing down and other teams won't be able to play them the way the Saints did without getting burned by other options.

Even if I agreed that the Saints have the best CBs in the league, that isn't the reason Harvin sucked last night. Besides getting his routes/timing down like you pointed out, his skill set requires that the Vikings get creative on offense. I understand maybe playing generic in week 1, but this guy is dependent on them drawing up plays that allow him to make big plays. He will never be a Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison type route runner. He has to be given chances in other ways.It is a problem that limits his consistency and long-term prospects in the league compared to someone like Roddy White who makes a ton of plays within the flow of the normal offense.

 

[John 14:6]

Is it too late to change my grade for the quality of this year's Shark Pool in Joe's thread?

I already voted D+. Threads that are actually useful are few and far between.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Is it too late to change my grade for the quality of this year's Shark Pool in Joe's thread?

I already voted D+. Threads that are actually useful are few and far between.

Me too!

 

[heidbrink]

Is it too late to change my grade for the quality of this year's Shark Pool in Joe's thread?

I already voted D+. Threads that are actually useful are few and far between.

Me too!

Don't let the door hit you in the ###.

 

[thehornet]

Is it too late to change my grade for the quality of this year's Shark Pool in Joe's thread?

I already voted D+. Threads that are actually useful are few and far between.

Me too!

Don't let the door hit you in the ###.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

The Min offense looked pretty lost w/o Rice last night if you ask me. There was no other WR (not counting Shiancoe) that seemed capable of beating 1 on 1 coverage vs. even the Saints CBs, who while not horrible I don't think anyone would say are great. Harvin continues to be one of the most overrated players in fantasy right now IMO. He is light years from being a WR1 in the NFL.

well Light Years is a looooooooong time; even if singular. If I was going to bet on a player, and I did, it would be one who had already spent a year with a QB and turned in a ROY performance. Harvin obviously had a bad game and he and Favre (who skipped nearly all of training camp) were clearly not on the same page. This coaching staff leaves a lot to be desired though. Peterson comes out in the second half and runs his first touch for a first down then sees the ball out of the backfield two more times? Childress does not know how to put his players in a position to win. Why the heck isn't he using Harvin out of the backfield more getting him closer to the QB for the occasional hand off or dump pass. Harvin clearly has physical skills, not WR 1 skills (yet?), but he is a talented player worth rolling the dice on.

I disagree with the bolded.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

i don't buy the "childress constantly misuses talent" for Harvin's failure in this game. Harvin had to play more as conventional outside Wr this game from absence of Rice and vikes trying to protect Favre this time. Harvin is awesome in the slot/in motion/gadget plays when everything around him is clicking and he can shake someone 1on1 who can't bump and run him. Childress did use him correctly last year(same way Meyer did), but without Rice and not really a suitable player to fill Rice's spot, Harvin simply may not be able to return or duplicate that role. if just Favre or Childress were barking at him u could push fault onto one of them, if both then its a Harvin issue. timing being off is one thing and something that can literally get much better over a course of a week/s. running the wrong routes and having trust issues with QB/coach and being pulled from games are a much bigger issue(Devin Thomas).

 

[Ever Present Lurker]

When your heart stops during sleep due to sleep apnea, it can cause migraines throughout the day. He now sleeps with a C-Pap machine, and hasn't had migraines since.

I am confident that the migraines are behind him, and that he will hopefully produce like we expect him to come week 3 or so once he warms up his rapport with Favre.

I expect him to improve next week, but not tremendously. Maybe 3 or 4 catches for 50 or so yards. I do expect a very nice performance in week 3 however against Detroit.

When your heart stops during sleep, it's not sleep apnea. It's death.

Sleep apnea is a respiratory issue, and yes, the sleep interruptions it causes can trigger migraines. When one suffers from Sleep apnea, the difference a CPAP makes is marked, to say the least.

 

[Clavin]

When your heart stops during sleep due to sleep apnea, it can cause migraines throughout the day. He now sleeps with a C-Pap machine, and hasn't had migraines since.

I am confident that the migraines are behind him, and that he will hopefully produce like we expect him to come week 3 or so once he warms up his rapport with Favre.

I expect him to improve next week, but not tremendously. Maybe 3 or 4 catches for 50 or so yards. I do expect a very nice performance in week 3 however against Detroit.

When your heart stops during sleep, it's not sleep apnea. It's death.

Sleep apnea is a respiratory issue, and yes, the sleep interruptions it causes can trigger migraines. When one suffers from Sleep apnea, the difference a CPAP makes is marked, to say the least.

Absolutely. My docotr said I was essentially running a marathon each night. I used to fall asleep on the drive to work and sit at lights slapping myself in the face. CPAP made a HUGE difference. So, if I spent a pick on Harvin, I would wait to see how it stabalizes his issues.

 

[footballsavvy]

I love this thread. I'm soooo buying Harvin in all my leagues. The Saints have the best cornerbacks (duo) in the league and Malcom Jenkins is the real deal. They man up a ton allowing Harvin to be shadowed most of the night. Not many teams cna get away with this as much as the Saints. As the season rolls on Camarillo will get in a groove and other teams won't be as successful doing this without Camarillo making them pay for it. They made the Saints pay for it with Shianco until the Saints mad a pretty slick half time move. Even then, Favre only slightly over threw Shianco for yet another big play in the second half.Anyway, my point is that y'all are crazy if you think Harvin will suck all year. The Saints secondary is one of the best (if not the best) in the NFL. Harvin will get his routes/timing down and other teams won't be able to play them the way the Saints did without getting burned by other options.

Even if I agreed that the Saints have the best CBs in the league, that isn't the reason Harvin sucked last night. Besides getting his routes/timing down like you pointed out, his skill set requires that the Vikings get creative on offense. I understand maybe playing generic in week 1, but this guy is dependent on them drawing up plays that allow him to make big plays. He will never be a Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison type route runner. He has to be given chances in other ways.It is a problem that limits his consistency and long-term prospects in the league compared to someone like Roddy White who makes a ton of plays within the flow of the normal offense.

Well, its no big deal, but I disagree completely. Harvin is the exact opposite of the receiver you portray him as. He just needs the ball in his hands and after that he creates a LOT on his own. He's very strong and fast and his YAC were high last season. In fact, when it was assumed Favre would not be back every expert on every fantasy site agreed that Harvin would be the receiver least affected by Favres departure. This was because he simply needs the ball in his hands ti produce. He doesn't need artistic, genius plays that spring him wide open 20 yards down the field.

 

[footballsavvy]

Is it too late to change my grade for the quality of this year's Shark Pool in Joe's thread?

I already voted D+. Threads that are actually useful are few and far between.

Me too!

Ahhh, the elite fantasy snobs. This pass time has finally become popular enough to have full representation.

 

[Avery]

When your heart stops during sleep due to sleep apnea, it can cause migraines throughout the day. He now sleeps with a C-Pap machine, and hasn't had migraines since.

I am confident that the migraines are behind him, and that he will hopefully produce like we expect him to come week 3 or so once he warms up his rapport with Favre.

I expect him to improve next week, but not tremendously. Maybe 3 or 4 catches for 50 or so yards. I do expect a very nice performance in week 3 however against Detroit.

When your heart stops during sleep, it's not sleep apnea. It's death.

Sleep apnea is a respiratory issue, and yes, the sleep interruptions it causes can trigger migraines. When one suffers from Sleep apnea, the difference a CPAP makes is marked, to say the least.

Absolutely. My docotr said I was essentially running a marathon each night. I used to fall asleep on the drive to work and sit at lights slapping myself in the face. CPAP made a HUGE difference. So, if I spent a pick on Harvin, I would wait to see how it stabalizes his issues.

True, but abnormal heart rhythms can be associated... to quote myself from another thread...

In terms of abnormal heart rhythms associated with sleep apnea, arterial fibrillation (kinda a low beat fluttering) is more common, but some patients have shown excessive slowing of heart rymthms as they struggle to overcome the airway collapse to the point of asystoles (where the heart completely stops). So although asystoles is not the primary symptom of sleep apnea, it can be an associated symptom.

In terms of all this being associated with migraines, sleeping issues in general can trigger migraines to a migraine sufferer so this is very much related.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Is it too late to change my grade for the quality of this year's Shark Pool in Joe's thread?

I already voted D+. Threads that are actually useful are few and far between.

Me too!

Ahhh, the elite fantasy snobs. This pass time has finally become popular enough to have full representation.

If you don't like a thread move along there is plenty of good and bad stuff on this message board, and it is not that hard to identify both.

 

[Ever Present Lurker]

When your heart stops during sleep due to sleep apnea, it can cause migraines throughout the day. He now sleeps with a C-Pap machine, and hasn't had migraines since.

I am confident that the migraines are behind him, and that he will hopefully produce like we expect him to come week 3 or so once he warms up his rapport with Favre.

I expect him to improve next week, but not tremendously. Maybe 3 or 4 catches for 50 or so yards. I do expect a very nice performance in week 3 however against Detroit.

When your heart stops during sleep, it's not sleep apnea. It's death.

Sleep apnea is a respiratory issue, and yes, the sleep interruptions it causes can trigger migraines. When one suffers from Sleep apnea, the difference a CPAP makes is marked, to say the least.

Absolutely. My docotr said I was essentially running a marathon each night. I used to fall asleep on the drive to work and sit at lights slapping myself in the face. CPAP made a HUGE difference. So, if I spent a pick on Harvin, I would wait to see how it stabalizes his issues.

True, but abnormal heart rhythms can be associated... to quote myself from another thread...

In terms of abnormal heart rhythms associated with sleep apnea, arterial fibrillation (kinda a low beat fluttering) is more common, but some patients have shown excessive slowing of heart rymthms as they struggle to overcome the airway collapse to the point of asystoles (where the heart completely stops). So although asystoles is not the primary symptom of sleep apnea, it can be an associated symptom.

In terms of all this being associated with migraines, sleeping issues in general can trigger migraines to a migraine sufferer so this is very much related.

Well, I'm not a MD. But I am a nurse. And I do have sleep apnea. So while I'm far from an authority on the subject, I do know a bit about sleep apnea. I've pulled out several textbooks and reviewed some case studies online. I'm not finding any sources that would indicate Asystole is associated with sleep apnea, in an otherwise healthy individual.

Now if we're talking about someone with a pre-existing heart block of some kind, then I can agree with you. Do you have any information along these lines that you could share? I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around this.

 

[farroki]

One thing that's important I think to note is that Harvin HIMSELF told NBC Sports that his heart stopped, not a doctor. I spoke to my friend who is an anesthesiologist, and he said that technically your heart doesn't stop from sleep apnea, but you can lose a pulse. Your heart still has electrical activity, it's called pulseless electrical activity. Harvin isn't a doctor, so I'm sure he took what the doctor told him and translated it to his heart stopping to kind of over embellish the seriousness of what happened.

"The scary part, Harvin told Andrea Kremer of NBC Sports, is that after he was taken from the Vikings' practice field to a nearby hospital, his heart stopped for 10 seconds."

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/09/11/percy-h...ifying-practic/

 

[Avery]

When your heart stops during sleep, it's not sleep apnea. It's death.

Sleep apnea is a respiratory issue, and yes, the sleep interruptions it causes can trigger migraines. When one suffers from Sleep apnea, the difference a CPAP makes is marked, to say the least.

Absolutely. My docotr said I was essentially running a marathon each night. I used to fall asleep on the drive to work and sit at lights slapping myself in the face. CPAP made a HUGE difference. So, if I spent a pick on Harvin, I would wait to see how it stabalizes his issues.

True, but abnormal heart rhythms can be associated... to quote myself from another thread...

In terms of abnormal heart rhythms associated with sleep apnea, arterial fibrillation (kinda a low beat fluttering) is more common, but some patients have shown excessive slowing of heart rymthms as they struggle to overcome the airway collapse to the point of asystoles (where the heart completely stops). So although asystoles is not the primary symptom of sleep apnea, it can be an associated symptom.

In terms of all this being associated with migraines, sleeping issues in general can trigger migraines to a migraine sufferer so this is very much related.

Well, I'm not a MD. But I am a nurse. And I do have sleep apnea. So while I'm far from an authority on the subject, I do know a bit about sleep apnea. I've pulled out several textbooks and reviewed some case studies online. I'm not finding any sources that would indicate Asystole is associated with sleep apnea, in an otherwise healthy individual.

Now if we're talking about someone with a pre-existing heart block of some kind, then I can agree with you. Do you have any information along these lines that you could share? I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around this.

I asked someone in a sleep clinic to forward over some studies / or open case reports. Unfortunately, only abstracts of most studies are openly available online.In the meantime, these from the world wide web might be helpful:

Cardiac asystole during an hypoxic drive study in a normal subject, CHEST Journal from the American College of Chest Physicans

Sleep Apnea: From the Nose to the Heart, Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine

I fear I have helped take this thread on a big left turn.

Back to the point... I shouldn't of started Harvin.

 

[LittlePhatty]

I really can't wait for the games tomorrow, mostly because we'll have something else to talk about and this thread's heart will stop beating.

 

[Ever Present Lurker]

I asked someone in a sleep clinic to forward over some studies / or open case reports. Unfortunately, only abstracts of most studies are openly available online.

In the meantime, these from the world wide web might be helpful:

Cardiac asystole during an hypoxic drive study in a normal subject, CHEST Journal from the American College of Chest Physicans

Sleep Apnea: From the Nose to the Heart, Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine

I fear I have helped take this thread on a big left turn.

Back to the point... I shouldn't of started Harvin.

I took the discussion to PM, don't want to derail!

 

[shortbow]

I started Harvin as my WR2 in my return yards league and was of course disappointed in Favre's ability to throw the ball and Childress' ability to have Berrian on the field.

On his medical issues, everyone has a mild form of sleep apnea but most peoples bodies realize it while were sleeping and we begin breathing again, obviously Percy has a more severe case, but people are making a big deal out of nothing here, hes going through a lot for sure, but he will play no doubt. Migraines are no joke, I have chronic migraines and once or twice a month im bed ridden because they are debilitating. But people don't seem to realize, this isn't a new condition for Percy hes had them forever and even though he has a history of injury hes always managed, they happen so rarely that it should affect his game day performance unless of course he has a migraine but its so unlikely that I chose to not worry about it.

 

[C-Bound]

I started him as my WR3 but in a 10 team league it could prove disastrous. :(

 

[NatronIsMean]

Bottom line - those of us with Vikings WRs have to wait 3-4 weeks for this situation to get clearer and Favre to get in better shape. He'll get in sync with 1-2 guys in addition to Shiancoe. He'll work himself into game shape. Until then, I'm not letting Vikings WRs or Favre near my starting lineup.

 

[Sweetness_34]

This thread is hilarious....so much comedy thanks to all the hype over a glorified punt returner. People actually started him over Steve Smith/Car and Wes Welker/Pats? LMAO .... what a bunch of guppies. This is why I kill FF in general. So many people out think themselves trying to find the next jewel that they miss the obvious play that involves solid veterans. Do not believe me? Watch how many people have sold out on James Jones this year over Donald Driver. The same thing used to happen every year in years past with Jimmy Smith/Jax; Rod Smith/Broncos and Rudi Johnson/Bengals.

 

[Avery]

This thread is hilarious....so much comedy thanks to all the hype over a glorified punt returner. People actually started him over Steve Smith/Car and Wes Welker/Pats? LMAO .... what a bunch of guppies. This is why I kill FF in general. So many people out think themselves trying to find the next jewel that they miss the obvious play that involves solid veterans. Do not believe me? Watch how many people have sold out on James Jones this year over Donald Driver. The same thing used to happen every year in years past with Jimmy Smith/Jax; Rod Smith/Broncos and Rudi Johnson/Bengals.

Your Awesome! Thanks for adding to the discussion...

 

[thatguythere]

This thread is hilarious....so much comedy thanks to all the hype over a glorified punt returner. People actually started him over Steve Smith/Car and Wes Welker/Pats? LMAO .... what a bunch of guppies. This is why I kill FF in general. So many people out think themselves trying to find the next jewel that they miss the obvious play that involves solid veterans. Do not believe me? Watch how many people have sold out on James Jones this year over Donald Driver. The same thing used to happen every year in years past with Jimmy Smith/Jax; Rod Smith/Broncos and Rudi Johnson/Bengals.

We're not talking about Hester here, go back to the Bears forum.

 

[C-Bound]

This thread is hilarious....so much comedy thanks to all the hype over a glorified punt returner. People actually started him over Steve Smith/Car and Wes Welker/Pats? LMAO .... what a bunch of guppies. This is why I kill FF in general. So many people out think themselves trying to find the next jewel that they miss the obvious play that involves solid veterans. Do not believe me? Watch how many people have sold out on James Jones this year over Donald Driver. The same thing used to happen every year in years past with Jimmy Smith/Jax; Rod Smith/Broncos and Rudi Johnson/Bengals.

LOL schtick

 

[thehornet]

I understand the fact that he has migraine issues. I think we all understand that fact.I also understand that the Vikings have brought in the best in the field this year to try to alleviate the issue. They say they believe they now have the issue under control. Believe it or not, but it's a fact his doctors said that.

Vikings coach Brad Childress revealed Wednesday that Percy Harvin was not at practice due to a recurrence of his migraines.Harvin's hip injury is just a blip on the radar screen now. The Vikings believed they could prevent further migraines after diagnosing them as a byproduct of sleep apnea during the preseason. Apparently, they were wrong. Harvin almost certainly won't play in Week 3, and there has to be concern that he could be shut down for awhile if the latest episode is severe. Stay tuned for updates. Source: Tom Pelissero on Twitter

 

[todisco1]

Thinking of dropping him in my redraft for DHB. Can't believe I just typed that.

 

[packersfan]

Thinking of dropping him in my redraft for DHB. Can't believe I just typed that.

Hester, Murphy, D.Thomas, Manningham and Holmes are all available in mine. We use blind bidding and I'm dropping Harvin and making a run at one of them. We have tight roster limits and I'm done with Harvin. I need to get someone who's producing in that roster spot or at least has the potential to produce (such as Holmes).

 

[richn]

Det this week......any Minn WR's worth a shot?????

 

[C-Bound]

What a ####storm my team has become since I optimistically thought Harvin would produce week 1 lol.

 

[richn]

What a ####storm my team has become since I optimistically thought Harvin would produce week 1 lol.