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I'm Starting K. Cousins Over... (1 Viewer)

nastynate said:
Man, picked him up, but not sure I can bring myself to start him over Stafford.

Worth noting, significant rain in the forecast in the DC metro this Sunday.
Not sure where you got that. I just looked at Accuweather and it's supposed to be 74 degrees and cloudy with a 30% chance of a shower.
Local news station...I live in the area. Never know until it gets here, but rain and 20+ MPH winds in the forecast. Worth keeping an eye on as the week progresses. Could be soggy from DC to NY
I live in the area too and haven't seen any of that reported. Maybe I missed something?

 
Can't seem to put him in my lineup with Stafford and Romo. I made it this far with them and would kick myself if Cousins (who is still unproven) puts up a stinker.

Btw, weather just north of Landover is supposed to be in the 60s with a 30% chance of showers on Sunday.

 
Cousins over Cam against NO.

Slightly on the fence but I think I am going with Cousins.
was considering the same. CAR & NO are the most UNDER team in the nfl this year. going against each other is a guaranteed dud/boring game. Cousins does have a lot of upside. It will be London Fletchers last home game & against the cowboys in 60+ degree weather.. Considering Cousins is trying to make a name for himself to offer his product this could be a shootout

 
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From a points perspective I believe he will most likely outscore Kaepernick who I am starting over him. The reasoning, my SB opponent has both Crabtree and Vernon D. Sound logic?

 
From a points perspective I believe he will most likely outscore Kaepernick who I am starting over him. The reasoning, my SB opponent has both Crabtree and Vernon D. Sound logic?
No. If you think Cousins will score more then you start Cousins. Crabtree and VD don't matter.

1) You are talking about giving up points. To what, equalize the game? You don't want equal. You want more points.

2) WRs typically get rewarded at a higher rate than QBs for production. There is a good chance that Crabtree and VD account for a lot of Kaepernick's production. So you stand to be on the losing end of that combination.

Start Cousins if you think he will score more points. Who will score more should be your biggest priority.

 
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Stafford has been my starter all year... I had a "bye" during the snowpocalypse game and survived his stinker last week...

Waiver wire is open throughout the year, up to the Championship game... Cousins and Luck were on it, so I grabbed them both..

Now I'm contemplating... Stafford vs Cousins.. Detroit homer, but also huge MSU homer, so that doesn't help ;)

I just can't believe Stafford would put up THREE stinkers in a row... he's gotta go off against the ####ty Giants at home, doesn't he?? :scared:

 
For sure starting him over Romo. (Romo traditionally plays poorly against the Skins). Probably over Ben. But still contemplating that one.

 
Ridgelake said:
For sure starting him over Romo. (Romo traditionally plays poorly against the Skins). Probably over Ben. But still contemplating that one.
After another day of investigation and reading every article and rankings list, I am loosing faith in Romo.

I have Cam, Romo, and I picked up Cousins so that my opponent would not start him over Brady. I have currently placed Cousins in to Start. :shrug:

In other league, I am confidently starting Cutler over Cousins.

 
My opponent is starting Cousins over....Brees! Crazy, right? ...RIGHT?!
Not that crazy really. You've seen the Cowboys pass defense right? Cousins will throw a ton against a porous defense. It's in his and the Skins best interest for him to amass huge stats over the three games he starts.

 
My opponent is starting Cousins over....Brees! Crazy, right? ...RIGHT?!
Not that crazy really. You've seen the Cowboys pass defense right? Cousins will throw a ton against a porous defense. It's in his and the Skins best interest for him to amass huge stats over the three games he starts.
I own Brees and Cousins and I'm seriously thinking of making this switch myself. The Cowboys did is becoming historically bad with every passing week and Cousins is currently the Redskins show pony. The only thing actually holding me back is the fact that he doesn't really have a ton of weapons. Oh, and also the fact that I'd be sick if I made the switch and Brees had a better game. I made it this far with my current starters, don't see the logic of messing with success now.

 
My opponent is starting Cousins over....Brees! Crazy, right? ...RIGHT?!
He's messing with you, & it appears to be working
I will probably bench Brees and put in Rivers. Brees is on the road with a tough game against Carolina's near league best pass defense. Brees is one of the biggest studs in the league, but still only has thrown a non-steller 11-TD's in 7 road games. Rivers is at home against a weak Raiders pass defense. Better weather, weaker pass defense, and at home. Seems an easy decision despite where experts rate them.

 
I would risk staring Cousins over Cam in what may prove to be a defensive battle in Carolina.

But to start Cousin over Romo, I can not agree.

Romo has something to prove.

The Boys are playing for something.

Romo's Defense will make this a shoot out.

Starting Romo over Cousins.
Either you don't know anything about Romo and the Cowboys or you think this year is going to be a lot different than all the other years he had something to prove. Maybe if you're lucky, he'll put up more than 9.8 points he put up against them when they played earlier this year.

Edit: I can't believe what I'm seeing in here. This is too comical. You guys go ahead and bench Brees, Brady and Rodgers (if he plays) for Kirk Cousins the guy starting his 2nd game this season behind one of the worst offensive lines and one of the worst receiving corps and in a division game that is always closer than people expect. Go ahead and start that in your championship over your 1st or 2nd round pick that you've been starting every game this year.

 
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Starting him over Cutler. Did it last week and it paid off, so why not try it again.
i too started cousins over cutler last week but that was mainly because cutler was coming off injury. Given both have strong matchups I am going with cutler this week.
 
From a points perspective I believe he will most likely outscore Kaepernick who I am starting over him. The reasoning, my SB opponent has both Crabtree and Vernon D. Sound logic?
No. If you think Cousins will score more then you start Cousins. Crabtree and VD don't matter.

1) You are talking about giving up points. To what, equalize the game? You don't want equal. You want more points.

2) WRs typically get rewarded at a higher rate than QBs for production. There is a good chance that Crabtree and VD account for a lot of Kaepernick's production. So you stand to be on the losing end of that combination.

Start Cousins if you think he will score more points. Who will score more should be your biggest priority.

I understand the reasoning here. My question is if there is any merit in hedging vs your opponents players? For what it's worth in my league QB's are as valuable as any position, 6pts per td and very good yardage bonuses. If Crabtree and Vernon go off I am almost guaranteed to keep close with Kaep. And I really like the matchup for Kaep vs Atlanta.
 
Over Alex Smith and Andrew Luck.
Care to unpack your logic? Same decision I have to make and here is where I stand: Smith has been consistent, posting QB1 numbers over the last month; ceiling is lower, but floor is higher. Struggling with fact that this is still only Cousins' third start, and, while Cowboys D has been putrid, it is still a rivalry game with playoff implications. Maybe I'm just playing it safe, but would like to hear more.

 
Just posted this in the "Romo is Unstartable" thread since it seems like many are grappling with a Cousins vs. Romo decision:

Ok, this is a good start. The Anti-Romo momentum for this week seems to be building...and this will probably add fuel to the fire.

FBG fantasy points allowed data shows that WASH allows 22.1 pts to QBs on average. This is a little deceptive though. Another site's data shows that while WASH ranks 24th in allowing pts to QBs, they are actually ranked 8th and 3rd over the last five and three games. So there is improvement here.

Backing the above up, you can see that the WASH pass D got walloped in weeks 1 - 3 by Vick (w rushing yards/td), Rodgers (480 yards, 4 TDs), and Stafford (380, 2TDs). Weeks 4 - 9 is where Romo laid an egg against Washington in Dallas and Manning predictably bombed them. Rivers also had a nice day as well.

* Week 10: Ponder -- 17-24-2-1. Pretty good actually for Ponder.

* Week 11: N. Foles 17-26-298, no TDs (did rush for one...I don't think that's likely for Romo)

* Week 12: Kaepernick 3 TDs

* Week 13: Eli 22-28-235-1-1

* Week 14: A. Smith - 14-20-137-2

* Week 15: M. Ryan - 29-38-210-1-1

The data I see is not overly damning for those that are looking to start Romo, but on the other hand it doesn't really paint a picture of huge upside.

Would be curious to know what the Redskins insiders think of this pass D and if there's any explanation for improved performance during the 2nd half of the season.

Regardless, I have Romo and I'm struggling with him or Cousins. This data definitely didn't push me towards the Romo camp.

KY

 
Newest weather report for the skins v boys -- high 60's, 60% chance of rain with potentially severe thunderstorms and 20 MPH winds.

I'll take my chances with Stafford having a bounce back game vs a bad Giants team that seems to have packed it in, @ home, indoors.

 
Newest weather report for the skins v boys -- high 60's, 60% chance of rain with potentially severe thunderstorms and 20 MPH winds.

I'll take my chances with Stafford having a bounce back game vs a bad Giants team that seems to have packed it in, @ home, indoors.
Don't go too far out on that limb now.

 
I starting Romo over Cousins, the redskins have five turnovers last week, three by Cousins. If Dallas every shows up this is the week, or else lots of people on the hot seat in big D. The skins are just playing out the season, shanny will be gone, and who knows who stays for players. I think the boys blitz Cousins like crazy, maybe he can handle it, but I wouldn't bet the bank on it.

 
I would risk staring Cousins over Cam in what may prove to be a defensive battle in Carolina.

But to start Cousin over Romo, I can not agree.

Romo has something to prove.

The Boys are playing for something.

Romo's Defense will make this a shoot out.

Starting Romo over Cousins.
Either you don't know anything about Romo and the Cowboys or you think this year is going to be a lot different than all the other years he had something to prove. Maybe if you're lucky, he'll put up more than 9.8 points he put up against them when they played earlier this year.

Edit: I can't believe what I'm seeing in here. This is too comical. You guys go ahead and bench Brees, Brady and Rodgers (if he plays) for Kirk Cousins the guy starting his 2nd game this season behind one of the worst offensive lines and one of the worst receiving corps and in a division game that is always closer than people expect. Go ahead and start that in your championship over your 1st or 2nd round pick that you've been starting every game this year.
You've convinced me!

 
From a points perspective I believe he will most likely outscore Kaepernick who I am starting over him. The reasoning, my SB opponent has both Crabtree and Vernon D. Sound logic?
No. If you think Cousins will score more then you start Cousins. Crabtree and VD don't matter.

1) You are talking about giving up points. To what, equalize the game? You don't want equal. You want more points.

2) WRs typically get rewarded at a higher rate than QBs for production. There is a good chance that Crabtree and VD account for a lot of Kaepernick's production. So you stand to be on the losing end of that combination.

Start Cousins if you think he will score more points. Who will score more should be your biggest priority.

I understand the reasoning here. My question is if there is any merit in hedging vs your opponents players? For what it's worth in my league QB's are as valuable as any position, 6pts per td and very good yardage bonuses. If Crabtree and Vernon go off I am almost guaranteed to keep close with Kaep. And I really like the matchup for Kaep vs Atlanta.
6 pts per TD pass does help. But what about yardages? Generally it is 2 to 1 or more in favor of WRs and TEs.

I still think you should go with the guy you think will put the most points up. Hedging isn't going to help you if Cousins scores more than Kaepernick. It will hurt you.

That said, I would like the matchup against Atlanta too.

One other consideration. How do you think your team matches up in other areas? If you feel you have a distinct advantage then maybe go with the safe, hedge play. If you think you are at a disadvantage then I'd roll with Cousins, who you think will score more points than Kaepernick.

 
Over Luck and Dalton, not a tremendously difficult decision.
I have Dalton in for the moment over Cousins. Vikings are third worst against the pass, have allowed the most passing TDs and Dalton isn't starting his third NFL game. I think the reason to consider Cousins over Dalton is that the Bengals could build a big lead and run the ball, while I would expect the Cowboys and Redskins to be a blow for blow game. Not an easy decision IMO.

 
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Would start Cousins over Wilson, but not over Cutler or Rodgers (if he plays).
I'm really torn on the Cousins/Cutler debate.
Same here. I'm leaning towards Cutler but I already have Forte AND Jeffery. Something about having 3 players on the same team scares me. Plus... I'm starting to hear reports that the weather in both games (Washington vs. Dallas) is going to be somewhat crappy in terms of the wind.

 
I would risk staring Cousins over Cam in what may prove to be a defensive battle in Carolina.

But to start Cousin over Romo, I can not agree.

Romo has something to prove.

The Boys are playing for something.

Romo's Defense will make this a shoot out.

Starting Romo over Cousins.
Either you don't know anything about Romo and the Cowboys or you think this year is going to be a lot different than all the other years he had something to prove. Maybe if you're lucky, he'll put up more than 9.8 points he put up against them when they played earlier this year.

Edit: I can't believe what I'm seeing in here. This is too comical. You guys go ahead and bench Brees, Brady and Rodgers (if he plays) for Kirk Cousins the guy starting his 2nd game this season behind one of the worst offensive lines and one of the worst receiving corps and in a division game that is always closer than people expect. Go ahead and start that in your championship over your 1st or 2nd round pick that you've been starting every game this year.
 
Totally agree! Brees will be out for blood this week

Warm weather on the road but he'll be more than fine

He got me here and I'm sticking with him

 
So...if Dallas and GB win then nobody rests. .

If Dallas wins and GB loses then Chicago rests but Philly does.

If Dallas loses and GB wins then Philly rests players.

If Dallas and GB lose then it will be a crappy resting game for both teams?

I assume it would be a good idea to stash Bush and Brown?

I think if you are looking at Cousins, Foles and Cutler you have to start Cousins or go safe with Big Ben or someone like that that plays at 4:30.

My head hurts...

 
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Over Alex Smith and Andrew Luck.
Care to unpack your logic? Same decision I have to make and here is where I stand: Smith has been consistent, posting QB1 numbers over the last month; ceiling is lower, but floor is higher. Struggling with fact that this is still only Cousins' third start, and, while Cowboys D has been putrid, it is still a rivalry game with playoff implications. Maybe I'm just playing it safe, but would like to hear more.
I am a Chiefs fan and I just am not sure that they will be pulling out all of the stops to win this week. If they do, it'll be on Jamaal's legs rather than Alex's arm. The fact that neither team has anything to play for and that they are playing again in two weeks scares me.

 
From a points perspective I believe he will most likely outscore Kaepernick who I am starting over him. The reasoning, my SB opponent has both Crabtree and Vernon D. Sound logic?
No. If you think Cousins will score more then you start Cousins. Crabtree and VD don't matter.

1) You are talking about giving up points. To what, equalize the game? You don't want equal. You want more points.

2) WRs typically get rewarded at a higher rate than QBs for production. There is a good chance that Crabtree and VD account for a lot of Kaepernick's production. So you stand to be on the losing end of that combination.

Start Cousins if you think he will score more points. Who will score more should be your biggest priority.

I understand the reasoning here. My question is if there is any merit in hedging vs your opponents players? For what it's worth in my league QB's are as valuable as any position, 6pts per td and very good yardage bonuses. If Crabtree and Vernon go off I am almost guaranteed to keep close with Kaep. And I really like the matchup for Kaep vs Atlanta.
6 pts per TD pass does help. But what about yardages? Generally it is 2 to 1 or more in favor of WRs and TEs.

I still think you should go with the guy you think will put the most points up. Hedging isn't going to help you if Cousins scores more than Kaepernick. It will hurt you.

That said, I would like the matchup against Atlanta too.

One other consideration. How do you think your team matches up in other areas? If you feel you have a distinct advantage then maybe go with the safe, hedge play. If you think you are at a disadvantage then I'd roll with Cousins, who you think will score more points than Kaepernick.

Thanks for the input. You bring up a good point about the rest of our rosters and yes at least on paper I like my players/matchups better than my opponent and don't feel I need to swing for the fences at QB.
 
romo is the line and last guy you start cousins over. some of these other guys mentioned: brees, cutler, rivers, etc all need to be started

 
Wombat x said:
Might chicken out and start Newton. Anyone else with this same decision? What way you going?
I'm in same boat, Cam Newton or Cousins. (also have Romo but have now cut him out of debate)

Cam Newton:

Running ability should net him an extra 6-10-pts

NO Defense 4th Best against QB but not on road.

Newton Toe injury could slow him?......

Steve Smith has yet to net over 100-yds a game.

Over/Under is 45, this shows sharks believe this could be 21-24 game.

Cam is heaven and earth more talented than Cousins.

Kirk Cousins:

Dallas Defense is bad. So bad that this is really that main reason why Cousins has so much hype this week as a QB1. Dallas D allowed Matt Flynn to look amazing and Cousins universally is thought to be better than Flynn. I believe Ray Lewis or Ditka, somebody made the comment last week or week before, that this Dallas Defense could be the Worst Defense he has ever seen. The game is projected to be the 2nd Highest Scoring game of the week with Over/Under at 53. (Bears and Eagles at 56 & Denver at Houston is also at 53)

I don't like Newton more than Cousins as a QB, but I do believe that Dallas D may help Cousins get to 300-yds 3TD. Whereas a tough Divisional Game in Carolina could mean Newton will get 170 1TD, 50-YdsYrushing (we have seen it before)

As of Sunday evening, I do not see Cousins Floor as low as Newtons Floor.

 
I'm leaning Cousins over Fitzpatrick and Russel Wilson. I've had Wilson all this year but them resting him last week has freaked me out!
Really leaning towards Fitzpatrick over Cousins and Luck. Fitzpatrick may not hit it out of the park, but the weather may make Cousins a bad play.

 
I have Cousins and Dalton. Over the last 5 weeks the Vikings have given up the most points to FF QB's than any other team. Dalton going against the Vikings. Starting Dalton over Cousins.

 

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