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In this thread I rank my favorite post-Beatles Beatles songs: 291-1. (2 Viewers)

Haven't listened to that song in almost 40 years. My mom, knowing what a Beatles/McCartney fan I was, bought me the 45 for Spies Like Us - legit 45...in 1986.  I didn't own a record player as I had been listening to cassettes for years.  Appreciate the thought Mom, but have you really not been paying attention??? Anyway, we did have a record player in the house.  It was one of those giant furniture pieces from the 60s.  I listened to that 45 a few times and found myself bored with Spies Like Us after a few listens, but digging the groove of My Carnival.  Always loved the way Paul pronounced "carnival" and the rollicking good time they seemed to be having.  Neither is in my top 100, but My Carnival would have had a better chance than Spies Like Us.

 
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The Spies Like Us theme song was another example of how tough it was to be a Paul fan in the mid 80s. He put more effort into goofing around with Chase and Aykroyd in the video than he did into the song.

 
krista4 said:
---INTERLUDE – The Traveling Wilburys---
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This truncated quote is from an excellent write-up, one worthy of publication in almost any rock journal (I have read far too many of these, and not many quite so good). That's not blowing smoke, that's a real primer you wrote about the Wilburys. Now I know where it all came from.

Oh, and Happy Belated Birthday, by the way. I hope it was enjoyable.

 
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rockaction said:
This truncated quote is from an excellent write-up, one worthy of publication in almost any rock journal (I have read far too many of these, and not many quite so good). That's not blowing smoke, that's a real primer you wrote about the Wilburys. Now I know where it all came from.

Oh, and Happy Belated Birthday, by the way. I hope it was enjoyable.
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Thanks for the compliment, which means a lot in particular because you're a great writer.  And thanks for the birthday wishes.  I had a fun day!

 
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Pip's Invitation said:
The Spies Like Us theme song was another example of how tough it was to be a Paul fan in the mid 80s. He put more effort into goofing around with Chase and Aykroyd in the video than he did into the song.
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I remember the movie but I have no recollection of Paul singing the theme song. 

 
OrtonToOlsen said:
National Lampoon magazine had a hilarious send up of the wilburys circus 1988 (the mag was very hit or miss by this time but this parody was great) called...

The Wandering Dingleberries. 

The line up was (iirc)

Slim Whitman

Boxcar Willie

Zamfir

Kenny Rogers

and just as an extra dig... Jeff Lynne.
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I remember that. The tagline was "screw me to the wall" instead of "handle me with care" and they left the "overexposed, commercialized" line intact. 

 
Per Wikipedia 

Beatle George Harrison cited Whitman as an early influence: "The first person I ever saw playing a guitar was Slim Whitman, either a photo of him in a magazine or live on television. Guitars were definitely coming in." When a young Paul McCartney purchased his first guitar, the left-handed musician was unsure how to play an instrument that was manufactured and strung for a right-handed player. It was not until McCartney saw a picture of Whitman playing left-handed that he re-strung his guitar so that he too could play left-handed.
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krista4 said:
Could we save it all for the "In This Thread I Rank My Favorite Slim Whitman Songs 204-1" thread?
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Down in the valley

Valley so low

Late in the evenin'

Hear the train blow

Hear the train blow, love

Hear the train blow

Late in the evenin'

Hear the train blow

Write me a letter

Send it by mail

Send it in care of

Birmingham Jail

Birmingham Jail, love

Birmingham Jail

Send it in care of

Birmingham Jail

 Roses love sunshine

Violets love dew

Angel in Heaven

Know I love you

Know I love you-ou

Know I love you-ou, ou-ou, ou-ou-ou-ou

Angels in Heaven

Know I love you

Down in the valley

The valley so low

Late in the evenin'

Hear the train blow

Hear the train blow, love

Hear the train blow

Late in the evenin'

Hear the train blow

&

:headbang:

 
Morton Muffley said:
Ok, let's just move along everybody.
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I may be right or wrong
The story's in my song
It sure seems like we've
Come a long, long way

We've been through so many changes
All along the way
Maybe that's the way
Maybe that's the reason we're here
Today

Movin' on, movin' on
(Movin' on) everyday
(Movin' on) keep on movin'
Movin' on tomorrow is another day
On and on and on

&

 
I was thinking maybe I would live-blog watching Give My Regards To Broad Street here tomorrow (sorry, Morton), but then realized it's going to be John RIP Day in the thread.  Maybe Sunday instead, if I don't go out and drink too much.  Wait, especially if I go out and drink too much.

 
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Oh, also today I did two thread-related tasks:

1.  Fixed all the inconsistencies in italics vs. no italics in the ---INTERLUDES---.  Sheesh, you guys could have told me how sloppy I'd been.

2.  Copied all my song write-ups and ---INTERLUDES--- into a Word document in case this thread/board goes away.  So far it's 64 pages long.  :lol:  

 
krista4 said:
Oh, also today I did two thread-related tasks:

1.  Fixed all the inconsistencies in italics vs. no italics in the ---INTERLUDES---.  Sheesh, you guys could have told me how sloppy I'd been.

2.  Copied all my song write-ups and ---INTERLUDES--- into a Word document in case this thread/board goes away.  So far it's 64 pages long.  :lol:  
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Did you bold all yer ampersands? 

Asking for a Binky... 

Also, Derby Day tomorrow too! 

That still a thing for you since you left? 

 
krista4 said:
Oh, also today I did two thread-related tasks:

1.  Fixed all the inconsistencies in italics vs. no italics in the ---INTERLUDES---.  Sheesh, you guys could have told me how sloppy I'd been.

2.  Copied all my song write-ups and ---INTERLUDES--- into a Word document in case this thread/board goes away.  So far it's 64 pages long.  :lol:  
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1. Love the commitment

2. Put me down for a copy.  Although, I'd prefer the redacted one...y'know without the Broadstreet  live blog.  Do me that favor at least.

And @Pip's Invitation am gonna take issue with your comment about the Spies video and the three of them having fun.  I have only two recollections of that video though both are seared into my brain from the trauma:

  1. Paul's hideous wardrobe
  2. None of the three were on set at the same time to film the video.  I could be wrong but that is my recollection*
 
krista4 said:
Oh, also today I did two thread-related tasks:

1.  Fixed all the inconsistencies in italics vs. no italics in the ---INTERLUDES---.  Sheesh, you guys could have told me how sloppy I'd been.

2.  Copied all my song write-ups and ---INTERLUDES--- into a Word document in case this thread/board goes away.  So far it's 64 pages long.  :lol:  
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I notice font inconsistencies and such in my own writing (and professionally), but I pay no attention to how other people format their posts on message boards. So I had no idea.

I've got the Neil countdown entries on Facebook, which will presumably never go away in my lifetime, but I should probably make a plan for the rest of that thread. 

 
Morton Muffley said:
1. Love the commitment

2. Put me down for a copy.  Although, I'd prefer the redacted one...y'know without the Broadstreet  live blog.  Do me that favor at least.

And @Pip's Invitation am gonna take issue with your comment about the Spies video and the three of them having fun.  I have only two recollections of that video though both are seared into my brain from the trauma:

  1. Paul's hideous wardrobe
  2. None of the three were on set at the same time to film the video.  I could be wrong but that is my recollection*
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I'm just going by vague memories of 35 years ago. No way in hell am I watching all 4 minutes of that now. 

 
Man of Constant Sorrow said:
Did you bold all yer ampersands? 

Asking for a Binky... 

Also, Derby Day tomorrow too! 

That still a thing for you since you left? 
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I have a friend who has a Derby party every year.  Oddly enough, she's from Atlanta, but I think it's just a way for her to connect to her Southern-ish roots.  This year no party, and I didn't know until yesterday that the Derby was happening tomorrow!  Not really newsworthy here.  My stepmother mentioned it in an email.  Are you going to be in your Sunday finest?

 
I'm still struggling with my Paul top 100.  Just put the 10 finalists for the last six slots into a playlist and am going to listen until the losers have been vanquished.

 
krista4 said:
I have a friend who has a Derby party every year.  Oddly enough, she's from Atlanta, but I think it's just a way for her to connect to her Southern-ish roots.  This year no party, and I didn't know until yesterday that the Derby was happening tomorrow!  Not really newsworthy here.  My stepmother mentioned it in an email.  Are you going to be in your Sunday finest?
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oh yeah.

I'll be the guy spikin' the punch.  

 
krista4 said:
I'm still struggling with my Paul top 100.  Just put the 10 finalists for the last six slots into a playlist and am going to listen until the losers have been vanquished.
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I don't like my bottom 7-8, so am relying on you to turn me onto a half dozen songs. Don't let me down!  Otherwise I may need Paul to produce 1-2 more albums!

 
krista4 said:
I have a friend who has a Derby party every year.  Oddly enough, she's from Atlanta, but I think it's just a way for her to connect to her Southern-ish roots.  This year no party, and I didn't know until yesterday that the Derby was happening tomorrow!  Not really newsworthy here.  My stepmother mentioned it in an email.  Are you going to be in your Sunday finest?
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Yeah, I understand the not-know'n the date. This year is been weird; to say the least. 

As you know, I've lived by the track since '93 - can see the horses run from my house - so, I'm usually in the thick of it.

 But, since I moved in with Mom, I have put my house in a state of hibernation.

Also, there are no spectators allowed in, but there are protests scheduled for my neighborhood *which include armed militias from bof sidz. (won't say no more to keep it apolitical) 

Now, in other circumstances, I'd have my camera out to document, but since Mom really needs me now, I'm gonna be smart, safe & stay far away. 

Oh...I will be wearing my Sunday finest hat! 🎩

 
Morton Muffley said:
I don't like my bottom 7-8, so am relying on you to turn me onto a half dozen songs. Don't let me down!  Otherwise I may need Paul to produce 1-2 more albums!
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First round and I've designated three as definitely in, three as definitely out, and four in the middle.  A little work yet to do.  I can't say I'm going to argue for whichever three make it out of that last group of four, as I won't feel strongly about them either.  I also have one making it as #100 for sentimental reasons only. 

"Tug Of War" was one of the bottom 7-8, right?

 
krista4 said:
First round and I've designated three as definitely in, three as definitely out, and four in the middle.  A little work yet to do.  I can't say I'm going to argue for whichever three make it out of that last group of four, as I won't feel strongly about them either.  I also have one making it as #100 for sentimental reasons only. 

"Tug Of War" was one of the bottom 7-8, right?
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Correct

Another of the 7-8 is a canon top 10 that I dislike immensely save for one or two moments/elements.

 
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Loved the Wilbury's write up. I knew a lot of that but learned some new things too. I agree the second album is lacking something the first had which I always thought was just Orbison's vocals but now I am thinking it may also be that they all lost a bit of something when he was gone.

 
icecat4270 said:
Loved the Wilbury's write up. I knew a lot of that but learned some new things too. I agree the second album is lacking something the first had which I always thought was just Orbison's vocals but now I am thinking it may also be that they all lost a bit of something when he was gone.
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Nice to see a new face in the thread!

I remember reading something about how they had recorded "Handle With Care," and then when they wanted to do the full album and have a real band, George and Lynne went to Orbison's show in LA and asked him just before the show if he'd officially join the band, and he said yes.  Then through the whole show, they were poking each other and saying giddily, "He's going to be in our band!!"  Petty might have been there, too - I'm forgetting the details at the moment.  But Orbison was just a little bit older than the rest (remember the Beatles had opened for him the early 60s), and even though the rest of them admired each other, they were just blown away by working with him.  So it's just my theory that they lost a little of that luster when he died, but it seemed like it...

 
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krista4 said:
Morton Muffley said:
Krista dropping knowledge all over the place with that write-up.  Another great write-up.  And I had no idea that George was the driving force behind the Wilbury's.  I figured it was Jeff Lynne, due to his ex producing skills, that brought them together.  But the biggest shock to me was reading that Orbison was 52!  I am 52 now and if you asked me now, then or anytime in between "how old was Orbison when he died in '88?" I'd have said 68 or 70.  52?  WTF!

And yeah, totally weird to think that 60% of the Wilbury's are dead and yet Keith Richards lives on.  Crazy world.
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I had exactly the same reaction when I looked that up.  I would have thought he was 70.  
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add me to the list. Wow. 

Great writeup.

 
Pip's Invitation said:
I notice font inconsistencies and such in my own writing (and professionally), but I pay no attention to how other people format their posts on message boards. So I had no idea.

I've got the Neil countdown entries on Facebook, which will presumably never go away in my lifetime, but I should probably make a plan for the rest of that thread. 
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You need to save it somewhere better than Facebook!  Really, so much work in that.  Please do.  In case it wasn't obvious, I've put a lot more work into this one than the Beatles thread, which was more seat-of-my pants.  I'm happy with the product.  :)

 
As a reminder, tomorrow the thread is a memorial for John.  I'll be posting about his last two albums, Double Fantasy and Milk and Honey, and then talking about his last days and murder.  I'll follow that with just one song for the day, as it doesn't feel right to do anything more than that one John song.

I wrote all of this up a few days ago, and I'm still somewhat emotional about it.  As I mentioned at the beginning of the Beatles thread, I came to the Beatles very late - well after John's death.  Maybe I haven't worked through his death as fully as someone who's loved him for the duration.  It's still raw every time I think about it.  These were very hard to write.

I'm taking solace that the one song I'll post is an exuberant, happy reflection of his last months on Earth.

 
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@Uruk-Hai, the floor is yours.  ;)  
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(blows out)

Jeff  Lynne......... good ol' Jeff..........my buddy.....

I'm drawn to melody in music more than any other aspect. So, ELO's '70s stuff appealed to me. And it sounded good (still does).

Lynne's songs were relatively concise unlike many of his fellow Art Rockers (Yes, ELP, Tull). But they were still bombastic as hell and I've come to like bombast less-and-less as the years have gone on. On the other hand, our boy Jeff knew how to write pop music hooks and - my God - did he stuff his records with them. 

Jeff Lynne has spent the last 50 years rewriting the Beatles Sgt Pepper-to-Abbey Road run.  In fact, ELO's entire recorded output could be considered a knockoff of the Abbey Road medley. I thought of him as a coattail rider, especially when the Wilburys came out. This used to bother the hell out of me for some reason, as if Mr Lynne was the only person ever to rip off the Beatles or latch onto someone more famous and talented than he was. 

I don't care anymore, mainly because it's a stupid-### thing to get worked up about and also - as @krista4's excellent essay shows - because Lynne helped facilitate a George rebirth as well as bringing Orbison back into the spotlight for one last glorious minute. George may have been the driving force, but I think Jeff Lynne may have been the glue once things got rolling.

(blows in)

 
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