Kiddnets
Footballguy
Take it out of the tens of millions he "earned"
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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (2 Viewers)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That entire statement was self-serving BS.
So he told the Jets immediately he wanted to keep playing but now a month or so later doesn't know if he wants to keep playing?
He basically contradicted himself within the same statement and isn't smart enough to realize it.
Let’s not forget—he had 37.5 million reasons to want to stay on the field.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Love how Aaron Glenn just shut him down. Fantastic.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
and he still could earn close to that if he wanted to.
Plus he said in his statement - "it's not about the money" (so maybe he lied about that as well?)
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RC94
Footballguy
Aaron Glenn is a high character person, not just in the way he behaves but also in what he values in the people around him. He isn't a passive aggressive coward who talks behind people's backs. Instead Glenn has the respect to handle things the right way. I'm not at all surprised this didn't resonate with Rodgers. Maybe he would have preferred it if Brick told Rodgers thru the NY media that he was being cut...
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Glenn remining me of Parcells so far....Im really optimistic on him
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Rodgers tried to clown Glenn of course - nothing could ever be his fault
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I loved him here in Detroit. High character, leader of men, no nonsense approach, not going to put up with any distractions or other bull****. Going to build it the right way. You guys got the right guy imo.
sheerterror
Footballguy
You mean the manipulative master of semantics is being disingenuous???? No way....Rodgers tried to clown Glenn of course - nothing could ever be his fault afterall.
Anyone that thinks that it went down the exact way Rodgers said it did (20 seconds) is nuts.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Stretch run for the draft few thoughts
Mocks have been mostly Membou and Warren - both Id be happy with - but I could def see these as smoke screens or easy to pivot to. Also with Membou stock rising he may go earlier -
Im pretty confident the top 3 are locked in but if any drop Id be thrilled to land Ward, Hunter or Abdul.
Out of the rest -
Campbell - def need OL and he hs been mocked at the top but could fall due to small arm syndrome - he would have to play RT which may give the team pause but hes a blue chip and id be ok with him
Jeanty - Ive seen this mentioned along with dealing Breece - not a fan. Dont recall a team winning it all by drafting a top 10 RB recently - thats more if the team is already set. Extending Breece would probably be just under $10M per yr while paying Jeanty as a top 10 pick would be around 6.5M - Id rather stick with Breece
Mason Graham - one of the few Def picks Id be ok with - tired of seeing teams run all over the D. Q and Mason would be a darn good inside tandem.
Tet McMillan - huge hole as #2 WR - would be a very nice weapon and tandem with GWill for yrs - Id be ok with it.
Sanders - do they go QB if he falls to them - gotta trust the regime and if they can get a possible future franchise QB at #7 without giving up the farm its worth the shot even though I have concerns
Banks - been seeing him slowly rise and he has common roots with Glen. He could end up being the best OL in draft but valuer wise I would want them to drop a few spots if possible
If they drop more than 2-3 spots not sure who they would be targeting and im not as familar but besides Graham Im pushing for any offensive help. If they insist on continuing to hire Defensive specialist coaches they need to trust them to win on scheme/coaching - they shouldnt need all these 1st rders on D. O has been terrible for a decade - if they go O 1st 3 picks it would go a long way to rebuild to respectable.
Mocks have been mostly Membou and Warren - both Id be happy with - but I could def see these as smoke screens or easy to pivot to. Also with Membou stock rising he may go earlier -
Im pretty confident the top 3 are locked in but if any drop Id be thrilled to land Ward, Hunter or Abdul.
Out of the rest -
Campbell - def need OL and he hs been mocked at the top but could fall due to small arm syndrome - he would have to play RT which may give the team pause but hes a blue chip and id be ok with him
Jeanty - Ive seen this mentioned along with dealing Breece - not a fan. Dont recall a team winning it all by drafting a top 10 RB recently - thats more if the team is already set. Extending Breece would probably be just under $10M per yr while paying Jeanty as a top 10 pick would be around 6.5M - Id rather stick with Breece
Mason Graham - one of the few Def picks Id be ok with - tired of seeing teams run all over the D. Q and Mason would be a darn good inside tandem.
Tet McMillan - huge hole as #2 WR - would be a very nice weapon and tandem with GWill for yrs - Id be ok with it.
Sanders - do they go QB if he falls to them - gotta trust the regime and if they can get a possible future franchise QB at #7 without giving up the farm its worth the shot even though I have concerns
Banks - been seeing him slowly rise and he has common roots with Glen. He could end up being the best OL in draft but valuer wise I would want them to drop a few spots if possible
If they drop more than 2-3 spots not sure who they would be targeting and im not as familar but besides Graham Im pushing for any offensive help. If they insist on continuing to hire Defensive specialist coaches they need to trust them to win on scheme/coaching - they shouldnt need all these 1st rders on D. O has been terrible for a decade - if they go O 1st 3 picks it would go a long way to rebuild to respectable.
This plus he looked bad last year. I'd much rather have Fields for a year. Aaron Glenn is trying to change the culture and doesn't need the distraction or drama that Rodgers brings.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
Personally it would be Membou or trade down for me assuming none of the consensus top 3 fall. Please don't take a TE or RB with the number 7 pick. Warren is not Bowers and Jeanty is not Barkley. Even if they were it would be the same story as Barkley with the Giants. Great players, bad draft management that will lead to bad cap management before they could possibly help you win.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I don’t think they’ll even have a chance to draft Jeanty - he’s going to Jacksonville or Las Vegas.
I like Warren but think they’d have to trade back for it to make sense to take him - I won’t be that upset if they take him at 7 though.
I like Warren but think they’d have to trade back for it to make sense to take him - I won’t be that upset if they take him at 7 though.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
I'm a firm no on either. If they pick one of them at 7 it will 100% be part of the story when people are calling for Mougey's head in 3-4 years.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
problem is they need interest in a team trading up as well which sometimes doesnt happen - I agree #7 is a bit high for both but if they rate a player that high then im ok with it.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Unless they are good.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Anyway - the Jeanty talk was PURE speculation based on the rumors Hall may get traded. I don't want to speak in an absolutes - but I don't think there's any way they draft Jeanty even if the do move Hall before or after the draft.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
3-4 years? They're doing it now. Jet Nation is completely unreadable with all of the negativity. It began when Mougey was believed to be the guy and got worse in free agency.
What you wrote is true though, but it will be no matter what he does. The narratives are already pre-written depending on whom Mougey takes.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
Fans are insufferable, but I was more talking about the beat writers and those on social media that monetize their coverage of the Jets. The same ones that are now talking about Warren being a tantalizing prospect will absolutely kill Mougey for the pick in a few years and rightfully call it a misuse of draft assets despite them advocating for it now.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
That is a good point about trading down. It's easy for me to say they should trade down and collect a king's ransom for the pick but if no one else wants to give you much for it then their hands are tied. I definitely won't be too optimistic if the pick is Warren though.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
Saquon was good for the Giants and it was still a bad use of the pick. That's exactly what it would be here for the Jets at 7.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I was thinking more about Warren with that statement - since the Jets are desperate for pass catchers, if Warren does contribute, no one will call it a bad pick. Personally I will not be upset if it happens - but get that trading back to do so would be ideal (but as pointed out that's not always available).
The Jets, that are a borderline playoff team at best (yeah I said it again) - should not be taking a RB at 7 (when it's already a position of strength). That would make me lose some faith in this new regime already.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Top 10 picks should definitely be a "premium position" - QB, WR, DL, T, CB - we went through this with Jamal Adams. Picked a safety at #6 and while he was all pro early it still was not considered a premium position and taken way too high. Mahomes was taken at #10 at Jets passed to work on Hackenberg who never played a snap in a game. Luckily Seatltle bailed them out on Adams with that haul.
Tight ends are not premium positions - all these "generational" TEs taken top 10 mostly were average - the best so far Bowers was taken outside the top 10. That being said Ive seen a lot of Warren watching Penn St and can see why AG would love him. Absolute beast, constant motor, playmaker, leader - everything youd want to reset the culture. I just hope they trade down a bit to get him if possible.
RB in top 10 usually doesnt pan out for the team drafting him - they wind up still being mid and not pay the talent who shines elsewhere like Barkley and CMC. Swapping Breece for Jeanty would be a little more than a push and not a good move IMO
Rooting for OL or if Mason falls shore up that DL run D. Heard rumblings of a CB but that would be a waste after signing their #2 CB for 2 yrs at decent $.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
Pitts had a 1000 yard rookie season just like Bowers. How much better off would the Falcons have been taking any number of guys at more valuable positions? (Sewell, Chase, Waddle, Surtain, Parsons) I am a fan of Warren and the way he plays, but he's had 1 year of elite production and TEs that produce enough to be impactful difference makers in the NFL are few and far between. I personally see a far greater chance that Warren is a "good TE" and still not worth the 7th pick than there is that he's the next Travis Kelce, Gronk, Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, etc... and a reason the Jets turn this thing around. If they draft him I hope I'm wrong, but I won't be counting on it.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’d prefer o-line, and I’d much prefer a trade down before taking Warren, but if they do take him at 7, I’d imagine they would be planning on utilizing his versatility and he’d be a big part of the offense that needs weapons.
I surely see your points though - and I don’t think they actually will take him at 7. While it may seem silly, the franchise’s past failures of taking TEs too early may just make the new regime think twice before adding to that list.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Some famous Jet 1st rd TEs - Johnny Mitchell, Kyle Brady - with the entire arena clamoring for Warren Sapp. and Anthony Becht. Not great
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Some recent chatter on Javon Walker - as stated by many Id much rather have offense but I watched some highlights of this guy and he is a beast - reminded me of Marvin Jones in his prime at Fl St. Would definitely be a weapon
Trying to just trust the new regime - they know how crucial this pick is
Trying to just trust the new regime - they know how crucial this pick is
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Definitely some all time blown picks - two of my faves:
NYJ select "fullback"....."oh no!!"...."Roger Vick
the entire arena chanting for Warren Sapp and they go with Kyle Brady after picking a TE in the 1st rd 2 yrs prior
Lets be serious tho - all teams could have a video of blown picks like this - only difference is it is "fun" to kick the Jets. Also their fans over the top reactions make good video - but lets stop acting most other teams havent blown several similar picks over the years
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
This is where I am - there seems to be a bunch of great options at 7 and I'm not going to claim to know which will be busts and which will be all-pros. I'm going to trust these guys to get it right,
I would only question the new regime if the pick is Jeanty (but it's looking like he may be gone before 7 anyway). While I wouldn't question the pick necessarily, I would also be bummed if they went QB at 7.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Like WTF is a Johnny "Lamb" Jones?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Like it
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The oline looks good on paper and I expect the team to run a lot next year.
Some good WRs should be available in round two - of course they don’t have a good track record with round two WRs.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
They definitely have one of the worst WR groups in the league right now. I’m not sure what the plan is there. Hope they can find help in the draft.
zamboni
Footballguy
Membou hit the spot. Conor Hughes is usually pretty solid, but I think he’s getting ahead of himself here:
jwb
Footballguy
Probably a bit of a reach, but I do love the pick and the way this line now looks. Far cry from where it was.
I know it's the same old / same old "win the offseason"/etc, but the new regime has been impressive so far. I can't help but be optimistic. Now pick us a nice pass catcher at #2.
Crash Davis
Footballguy
Burden, Higgens, Taylor, Bech, Harris. Still plenty of playmakers out there and the OT pool is depleted. The Jets played the board correctly. Now let's see what they do at 42. Love the potential of the O-Line now. Young, talented and there is some depth with the FA signings. If they can just stay healthy they are going to maul teams in the run game. Grab a WR and then try to find a run stopper to slot next to Q somewhere along the way and I'll be pretty happy.
Chemical X
Footballguy
going off the top of my head i can roll out dwayne robertson, mike haight, dave cadigan, jeff lageman, johnny mitchell, qb qb qb, every second rounder ever. lame jones of course. blair thomas. lol so many.