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“There’s only room for one Aaron”
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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (3 Viewers)
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“There’s only room for one Aaron”
NYRAGE
Footballguy
"We're the freaking New York Jets, and we're built for this s--t."
Chemical X
Footballguy
lose like a jet?
zamboni
Footballguy
TLEF316
Footballguy
Good news. We have a fat kicker!!!
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New York Jets Sign Stallions Kicker Harrison Mevis
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rockaction
Footballguy
You're right. Great teams and players make catch phrases simply by winning.
"Can't wait!"
They were a very good team and he was a very good player.
zamboni
Footballguy
Looks like Tom Dempsey with an entire foot.Good news. We have a fat kicker!!!
New York Jets Sign Stallions Kicker Harrison Mevis
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
Theres a big difference between an identity and a stupid catch phrase mantra. Rex's philosophy was ground and pound with crippling defense. Teams knew the blueprint and Rex dared them to beat it. It was an amazing 2 year run - fell apart as always with the QB regressing and losing weapons. But at least it was an identity.
Saleh had the catch phrase but no identity - sure the D was good on paper/stats but it always seemed to give up big plays to lose at the end - Rex's Def sealed wins during their run. Saleh had no offense to speak of - it was a wreck even with a supposed HOF QB.
I'm hoping AG installs a more balanced identity. Obviously his forte is D but he knows hes got some intriguing weapons with Fields, Wilson, Hall and a solid OL - looking forward to him putting it together
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I really though the Jets solved their kicking woes with Z - one of the bigger disappointments. Back to the kicker pool.....dude looks like a bigger Janikowski! 240? lol no wayLooks like Tom Dempsey with an entire foot.Good news. We have a fat kicker!!!
New York Jets Sign Stallions Kicker Harrison Mevis
It’s about to be a busy season for UFL to NFL Signings. According to NFL Draft Diamonds, Harrison Mevis is signing with the New York Jets...
zamboni
Footballguy
Yes, Z was money a few years ago, but such is the up and down existence of the vast majority of NFL kickers.I really thought the Jets solved their kicking woes with Z - one of the bigger disappointments. Back to the kicker pool.....dude looks like a bigger Janikowski! 240? lol no wayLooks like Tom Dempsey with an entire foot.Good news. We have a fat kicker!!!
New York Jets Sign Stallions Kicker Harrison Mevis
It’s about to be a busy season for UFL to NFL Signings. According to NFL Draft Diamonds, Harrison Mevis is signing with the New York Jets...
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think Woody should concentrate all his efforts with Crystal Palace.
rockaction
Footballguy
Argh. This guy. I tell you if it's not terrible news it's at least bad news, huh? This guy is trying to keep from achieving anything on a few continents, I guess.
zamboni
Footballguy
If only Woody was still stuck on Band-Aids, in line with his family's origins.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I was at a dinner party once where two high ranking J&J employees were there. Without actually saying it there was a strong implication that he’s a moron in that business as well.
zamboni
Footballguy
Nepotism is one of my biggest pet peeves in this world.
darksideofoz
Footballguy
I bet you got that from your dad.
rockaction
Footballguy
This is awesome. From June 20th or around there.
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Mark Schlereth's podcast about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. At 4:50 Schlereth says, "I started the conversation. I was, like, watching the Jets last year. It was the worst schematic run game I've ever watched in the NFL. I kept watching plays . . . There's a difference between having guys that can't block people and having your players do things that make zero sense. Why in the world would you block this play this way? This had zero chance of being successful. Why in the world would you guys do it that way? This is just dumb . . . so I asked Aaron about it and he went on this diatribe about this dysfunction with what they're trying to accomplish . . ."
So awesome. So they hired your OC and he can't even design a blocking scheme. Whatever you think of Schlereth getting his name in the news, for him to say it was the worst he'd even seen fits Hackett's and Saleh's modus operandi. Just a couple of clowns.
The RBs themselves got borderline implicated in his follow-up show and Schlereth seemed to back off his comments or who he was blaming, anyway. Just a mess.
J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets.
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Mark Schlereth's podcast about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. At 4:50 Schlereth says, "I started the conversation. I was, like, watching the Jets last year. It was the worst schematic run game I've ever watched in the NFL. I kept watching plays . . . There's a difference between having guys that can't block people and having your players do things that make zero sense. Why in the world would you block this play this way? This had zero chance of being successful. Why in the world would you guys do it that way? This is just dumb . . . so I asked Aaron about it and he went on this diatribe about this dysfunction with what they're trying to accomplish . . ."
So awesome. So they hired your OC and he can't even design a blocking scheme. Whatever you think of Schlereth getting his name in the news, for him to say it was the worst he'd even seen fits Hackett's and Saleh's modus operandi. Just a couple of clowns.
The RBs themselves got borderline implicated in his follow-up show and Schlereth seemed to back off his comments or who he was blaming, anyway. Just a mess.
J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Hey Mark Schlereth, welcome to watching the Jets. Mighty revelations from you. Tell us something we don't know.This is awesome. From June 20th or around there.
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Mark Schlereth's podcast about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. At 4:50 Schlereth says, "I started the conversation. I was, like, watching the Jets last year. It was the worst schematic run game I've ever watched in the NFL. I kept watching plays . . . There's a difference between having guys that can't block people and having your players do things that make zero sense. Why in the world would you block this play this way? This had zero chance of being successful. Why in the world would you guys do it that way? This is just dumb . . . so I asked Aaron about it and he went on this diatribe about this dysfunction with what they're trying to accomplish . . ."
So awesome. So they hired your OC and he can't even design a blocking scheme. Whatever you think of Schlereth getting his name in the news, for him to say it was the worst he'd even seen fits Hackett's and Saleh's modus operandi. Just a couple of clowns.
The RBs themselves got borderline implicated in his follow-up show and Schlereth seemed to back off his comments or who he was blaming, anyway. Just a mess.
J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets.
We have had the worst possible coaching year after year. Even non-former players like Stevie Wonder and Mr. McGoo (I'm dating myself here) could see it.
No more phonies like Saleh or inept clowns like Gase and Hackett. Call me Charlie Brown, but I'm optimistic this year that we have a real NFL coaching staff this year. Time will tell.
rockaction
Footballguy
Hey Mark Schlereth, welcome to watching the Jets. Mighty revelations from you. Tell us something we don't know.This is awesome. From June 20th or around there.
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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
Mark Schlereth's podcast about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. At 4:50 Schlereth says, "I started the conversation. I was, like, watching the Jets last year. It was the worst schematic run game I've ever watched in the NFL. I kept watching plays . . . There's a difference between having guys that can't block people and having your players do things that make zero sense. Why in the world would you block this play this way? This had zero chance of being successful. Why in the world would you guys do it that way? This is just dumb . . . so I asked Aaron about it and he went on this diatribe about this dysfunction with what they're trying to accomplish . . ."
So awesome. So they hired your OC and he can't even design a blocking scheme. Whatever you think of Schlereth getting his name in the news, for him to say it was the worst he'd even seen fits Hackett's and Saleh's modus operandi. Just a couple of clowns.
The RBs themselves got borderline implicated in his follow-up show and Schlereth seemed to back off his comments or who he was blaming, anyway. Just a mess.
J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets.
We have had the worst possible coaching year after year. Even non-former players like Stevie Wonder and Mr. McGoo (I'm dating myself here) could see it.
No more phonies like Saleh or inept clowns like Gase and Hackett. Call me Charlie Brown, but I'm optimistic this year that we have a real NFL coaching staff this year. Time will tell.
Hey, RAGE! Never on when you are anymore. I agree. Hopes are high. I think it’s going to be a rough year, so patience will be key. Let’s see how Glenn and Mougey handle it all.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
AG has the best overall coaching tools/bkrd than any coach the Jets have had since Parcells. Can't expect overnight huge jumps but I expect to see a much better prepared team that plays smart with solid gameplan.
They really should have been a 7 win team last year and while many predict them to be a bottom 3 team I think theyll end up around 7 wins - would be great if they could still be in it by 12/1 for a change.
Next year im expecting the playoff push but so much depends on Fields. I like what I see so far and really hoping they found their Baker/Geno reclamation QB
They really should have been a 7 win team last year and while many predict them to be a bottom 3 team I think theyll end up around 7 wins - would be great if they could still be in it by 12/1 for a change.
Next year im expecting the playoff push but so much depends on Fields. I like what I see so far and really hoping they found their Baker/Geno reclamation QB
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The fact that this was done completely behind the scenes and that Garret wants to stay is promising.
RC94
Footballguy
Yeah, for once they're doing it right. This stands in contrast to how Jerry Jones has handled re-signing Lamb.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Its a lot of money...but it ain't my money.
Kid is about all the right stuff. Works hard...wants to win....mostly kept his mouth shut (showed frustration but never bus tossed anyone) through 3 terrible years.
No brainer to pay him, even if it's a few spots beyond his rank (he's not the 5th best WR in the league). Hopefully it works out
Kid is about all the right stuff. Works hard...wants to win....mostly kept his mouth shut (showed frustration but never bus tossed anyone) through 3 terrible years.
No brainer to pay him, even if it's a few spots beyond his rank (he's not the 5th best WR in the league). Hopefully it works out
Kiddnets
Footballguy
its the going rate and they have the cap space - each year they wait the price goes up - in 3 yrs this will look like a bargain if he stays the course. Not to mention it dispells the Woody is cheap and Jets dont take care of their own players BS.
Not to mention like Doc said - zero leaks. new regime starting off well so far - sign Sauce and lets start camp!
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
6 years the ASV with the remainder of the rookie deal is nice, great to get this done before camp. Gotta believe sauce is soon as well… nice start to the regime
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I love GW5. I can't wait for the new season to start so that all those memories fade away of that washed-up, self-centered conspiracy theorist that ignored him the second half of the season to throw only to his buddy despite GW5 being wide open all game.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I just wish they had done it sooner before average salaries went up....especially for the CB position.
Personally, I wouldn't pay a CB that much, but I have no say in the matter. My preference is to spend money on the d-line/o-line, and offensive weapons. You pay a guy like Sauce and the opposition will just throw it everywhere else on the field. I rather invest in the pass rush. That's just me though.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
its better to spend on home grown - look back to Revis years. Having a top CB definitely helps your D. Opens up a lot of options
rockaction
Footballguy
I don't disagree or agree, but have to say that reading about the offensive line gives me a bit of optimism for this team. Plus the potential for a functioning offensive coordinator to get the most out of the run game instead of, per my post upthread, blocking the wrong guys and having the running backs not know where to go in the play design. That won't happen and guys that can't won't last long with this management and coach.
I hope.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
The premium positions to invest in are QB, OL, WR, pass rush and CB - Jets now have youth and upside locked in at most of those positions. Sauce would be a great addition to the core future.
Its now up to AG and staff to develop and actually come up with gameplans and not be out coached week after week.
Its now up to AG and staff to develop and actually come up with gameplans and not be out coached week after week.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Cant ask for much more than this - so happy new regime didnt get cute and bogged down in stupid bickering over minimal items like past
QB - young with upside - signed for 2 yrs at reasonable price
RB - Breece one more yr for cheap then likely a casualty unless he takes a low deal - cant see them paying him big bucks after this - probably Davis/allen if they show competent this year - both cheap and signed another 2 yrs
Wr - GW young and locked in long term
OL - bookend tackles and center - young and signed for cheap few more yrs
DL - Q locked in with a reasonable contract- WMD and JJ youth upside for reasonable price
LB - locked in Sherwood - would love Q as well
CB - lock down CB signed long term.
This is a very nice blueprint to build on - if coaching is solid and Fields can just be middle of the road im really excited to see what this team can do
QB - young with upside - signed for 2 yrs at reasonable price
RB - Breece one more yr for cheap then likely a casualty unless he takes a low deal - cant see them paying him big bucks after this - probably Davis/allen if they show competent this year - both cheap and signed another 2 yrs
Wr - GW young and locked in long term
OL - bookend tackles and center - young and signed for cheap few more yrs
DL - Q locked in with a reasonable contract- WMD and JJ youth upside for reasonable price
LB - locked in Sherwood - would love Q as well
CB - lock down CB signed long term.
This is a very nice blueprint to build on - if coaching is solid and Fields can just be middle of the road im really excited to see what this team can do
NYRAGE
Footballguy
The Jets unveiled a revamped state of the art locker-room after last year's players' ranking of a D+. With this change plus getting rid of the malcontents, Woody has to get at least a C in the rankings.
In all seriousness, it seems like Woody is trying to his best to turn things around. It looks like he is staying out of the way of AG and Mougey. There has been no noise this off-season. In fact, I've seen several articles praising the Jets especially after the GW and Sauce signings. Time will tell, but it's a nice start and cause for optimism. Let's hope it carries through camp and into the season.
In all seriousness, it seems like Woody is trying to his best to turn things around. It looks like he is staying out of the way of AG and Mougey. There has been no noise this off-season. In fact, I've seen several articles praising the Jets especially after the GW and Sauce signings. Time will tell, but it's a nice start and cause for optimism. Let's hope it carries through camp and into the season.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
woody being worst owner in sports is overblown - is he cringy and too involved - sure...does he meddle when things go bad - definitely. But he has a history of spending $ - both on players and the complex. he also wants to win - and m confident he'll stay out of the way for at least 2 seasons - if they are still lousy by then he'll get that itchy finger as hes not getting any younger.
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
the barbershop looks cool!
TLEF316
Footballguy
Yeah.....dont get me wrong....Woody sucks for various reasons.
But half the owners in baseball would rather lose 90 games a year and pocket revenue sharing than give a 22 year old superstar a multi-year extension. I know football and baseball are apples and oranges, but worst owner in sports? Not even remotely close.
Even in just the NFL, I'd certainly take what we have over Jax, Dallas, Carolina, Vegas and the Chargers for various reasons.
He's an out of touch trust fund goof ball, but he'll spend $$ and wants to win.
But half the owners in baseball would rather lose 90 games a year and pocket revenue sharing than give a 22 year old superstar a multi-year extension. I know football and baseball are apples and oranges, but worst owner in sports? Not even remotely close.
Even in just the NFL, I'd certainly take what we have over Jax, Dallas, Carolina, Vegas and the Chargers for various reasons.
He's an out of touch trust fund goof ball, but he'll spend $$ and wants to win.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Obviously Douglas made a TON of mistakes. And based on the Jets' history, both guys will probably leave here with nothing but individual honors and HUGE bank accounts.....but man Garrett and Sauce just seem like such nice kids. Just awesome comments today from both of them.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
JD had a fair chance and just couldn't win - deserved to go - but he definitely left the team some solid players that he found. Sauce/GWill are great building blocks.
Im ready to be hurt again but there is solid talent here. If Fields can just be adequate and not lose games this team will not be the laughing stock projected. The improvement in coaching should be good enough for a few game swing - last year was almost Kotite/Gase level bad
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I always thought Saleh and the dad of the draft day prank caller were overrated. They wouldn't blitz. They wouldn't move Sauce around. They basically had a Q and 2 good pass rushers.
2 games stick out for me: 1) When we got killed by Lamb and we didn't do a damn thing to try to stop it even though Dallas did not have even 1 other threat on the offense. 2) The SF game last year when we got pushed around and couldn't stop the run even though SF barely even tried to throw. We had nothing these 2 games from our "brilliant" defensive minds.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Have you seen ESPN's rankings based on talent? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...king-starting-lineups-projection-32-teams#NYJ
How are we ranked only 29th?
Granted, QB is problematic considering it's the straw that stirs the drink on offense. Second WR is abysmal. The rest of the offense looks pretty good on talent, albeit young. Maybe, just maybe Smith surprises people and ends up a speed threat as WR2-3.
On defense, our second defensive tackle is not good. If healthy, JJ and Will McD are a really nice pair of bookends. Q is top 5. LB is probably amongst the best in the league. Sauce is top 5. Carter is top third on the inside. Our weak spot is second CB, but if Stephens is below average, they just drafted a talented guy to replace him. Cisco is probably average at safety. Adams isn't good, but maybe the rookie will be better. Add it all up and I don't see how 28 teams are better.
Like we have said, it all comes down to whether FIelds can be at least average with his legs overcoming the downside of his passing/taking sacks. As long as the new coaching staff isn't the toilet that it has been for years, it won't drag down the talent on this team.
TLEF316
Footballguy
Guessing that ranking shifts very quickly if the two tackles live up to their draft status.
But yeah, they're mediocre (at best) at some key spots. Questionable QB, only 1 proven good pass catcher (Although I like Taylor) and despite Breece's early career rep he has not been the same runner post-injury.
And then on D....lost a starting corner (and replaced him with a guy that pretty much everyone agrees was a massive overpay) and JJ is coming off a potentially career changing injury. Carter is probably undervalued at nickel because he played hurt most of last year.
The D could swing pretty quick if a couple of the mid-round draft picks surprise. Thomas has great tools and I like Moore's chances to be a contributor.
But yeah, they're mediocre (at best) at some key spots. Questionable QB, only 1 proven good pass catcher (Although I like Taylor) and despite Breece's early career rep he has not been the same runner post-injury.
And then on D....lost a starting corner (and replaced him with a guy that pretty much everyone agrees was a massive overpay) and JJ is coming off a potentially career changing injury. Carter is probably undervalued at nickel because he played hurt most of last year.
The D could swing pretty quick if a couple of the mid-round draft picks surprise. Thomas has great tools and I like Moore's chances to be a contributor.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
its the jets - lazy take is to pile on and deservedly so until they win - but Ill go down with the ship that they have way better talent than 29th - ill bet close to half the league would trade for the Jets current talent and cap situation
rockaction
Footballguy
I think the low ranking is more than fair. I don't know what else to say other than that. Our DEs are either hurt or got pushed around last year. Q is alone in the middle for the most part. Sauce can't tackle. Our LBs are very good, but it's not a premium position. So we have a NT or DI and a good LB corps with one CB and one nickel back.
On offense, we have a QB nobody seems to think can hack it, an RB coming off a questionable year, one WR1 and then nothing at 2 or 3, what seems like a very promising OL, and a promising TE draft pick.
There's a lot we don't have cemented. No offense to you and optimism RAGE, but I'm not sure I can get too worked up about ESPN's ranking. I don't see more than a six or seven win season. I also see the organization turning around. We're going to have to take our lumps this year. That seems apparent to me. The real question is how do we handle it? I think patience is in order. Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, we need to trust Mougey and Glenn for more than a year before Woody comes stomping back in and ruining continuity and chain of command stuff.
That's going to be the real test—not whether we win eight or six games.
On offense, we have a QB nobody seems to think can hack it, an RB coming off a questionable year, one WR1 and then nothing at 2 or 3, what seems like a very promising OL, and a promising TE draft pick.
There's a lot we don't have cemented. No offense to you and optimism RAGE, but I'm not sure I can get too worked up about ESPN's ranking. I don't see more than a six or seven win season. I also see the organization turning around. We're going to have to take our lumps this year. That seems apparent to me. The real question is how do we handle it? I think patience is in order. Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, we need to trust Mougey and Glenn for more than a year before Woody comes stomping back in and ruining continuity and chain of command stuff.
That's going to be the real test—not whether we win eight or six games.