Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (1 Viewer)

[rockaction]

It's amazing that we all knew. I think the way the Jets organization is going to know they've really turned it around is when we're not **** sure that they're going to lose that game even after a tremendous play like that to take the lead.

 

[zamboni]

Well one of the few good things about being a Jets fan is most of us absolutely knew they were going to lose that game at the end

I was half-jokingly hoping Will would run back and forth across the field at the one for a minute and a half before going into the end zone. But no such luck.

 

[NYRAGE]

Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.

Don't worry, we don't have to try to tank.

 

[NYRAGE]

Well one of the few good things about being a Jets fan is most of us absolutely knew they were going to lose that game at the end

I was half-jokingly hoping Will would run back and forth across the field at the one before going into the end zone. But no such luck.

When he was running I was thinking maybe you should slow down and kill some time, but it wouldn't have mattered. We can't beat fate.

 

[rockaction]

Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.

Don't worry, we don't have to try to tank.

This roster is bereft of talent. I just didn't see where they were anywhere close to good. The defense stinks. The guys who get hurt are getting hurt. The other guys are not NFL quality. They were game today and tried hard until the end. I give them credit for that. But this team is another freaking rebuild.

 

[Kiddnets]

Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.

Don't worry, we don't have to try to tank.

This roster is bereft of talent. I just didn't see where they were anywhere close to good. The defense stinks. The guys who get hurt are getting hurt. The other guys are not NFL quality. They were game today and tried hard until the end. I give them credit for that. But this team is another freaking rebuild.

There is talent there but very top heavy it seems -OL is solid - though some breakdowns yesterday - GW, Breece, Q, WMcD, Quincy, Sherwood, Sauce are all very solid players that should form a core - but depth is a problem. Saleh/JD had a solid deep rotation on D - now it looks very thin. Regime has to answer to such an awful WR room outside of GW. Just simply unacceptable - there were some options out there for cheap.

FA looks awful again - Stephens will be yet another FA that we are counting down to being off the books.

My focus hasnt changed - this year is about developing culture, coaching and seeing if Fields is the answer. I was impressed that AG had the team fighting until the end but so did Saleh - its time to start winning some of these.

Really hoping Fields is back - yesterday showed he has no competition if healthy and schedule starts to loosen up

 

[Crash Davis]

Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.

Don't worry, we don't have to try to tank.

As sure as I was that they'd lose that game yesterday even after the blocked FG, I'm equally sure that this team will win just enough games to not be in position to draft the best QB available.

 

[Kiddnets]

Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.

Don't worry, we don't have to try to tank.

As sure as I was that they'd lose that game yesterday even after the blocked FG, I'm equally sure that this team will win just enough games to not be in position to draft the best QB available.

absolutely - likely eliminated from any real contention by Halloween as usual with meaningless "moral victories" in the last 2 months that the regime will claim that they can build on

Regardless - ive seen too many "generational QBs" like Trevor look lousy so im going to try to not get hung up on losing for better draft pick as ive done in past.

 

[rockaction]

Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.

Don't worry, we don't have to try to tank.

As sure as I was that they'd lose that game yesterday even after the blocked FG, I'm equally sure that this team will win just enough games to not be in position to draft the best QB available.

absolutely - likely eliminated from any real contention by Halloween as usual with meaningless "moral victories" in the last 2 months that the regime will claim that they can build on

Regardless - ive seen too many "generational QBs" like Trevor look lousy so im going to try to not get hung up on losing for better draft pick as ive done in past.

Dude, neither the Jets nor their fans will ever get it right. I probably wouldn’t have been happy with Dart at seven. Now I’d give a kidney for a do-over and we don’t even know anything but some preseason glimpses. I personally think you call Philly and give them a two for McKee and see if they bite.

But I’m not in charge, so there’s no danger of that. I will quibble with you a touch about two things. Joe D built a good D in 2022 and it was pretty good in 2023 but it was wayyyy overblown, and SF showed us the first game of ‘24. The second quibble is that we know about Fields. Good night, sweet prince of experiments. You can’t look like he looked against Buffalo. It’s done. Been a pro how many years? Same issues.

 

[Kiddnets]

Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.

Don't worry, we don't have to try to tank.

As sure as I was that they'd lose that game yesterday even after the blocked FG, I'm equally sure that this team will win just enough games to not be in position to draft the best QB available.

absolutely - likely eliminated from any real contention by Halloween as usual with meaningless "moral victories" in the last 2 months that the regime will claim that they can build on

Regardless - ive seen too many "generational QBs" like Trevor look lousy so im going to try to not get hung up on losing for better draft pick as ive done in past.

Dude, neither the Jets nor their fans will ever get it right. I probably wouldn’t have been happy with Dart at seven. Now I’d give a kidney for a do-over and we don’t even know anything but some preseason glimpses. I personally think you call Philly and give them a two for McKee and see if they bite.

But I’m not in charge, so there’s no danger of that. I will quibble with you a touch about two things. Joe D built a good D in 2022 and it was pretty good in 2023 but it was wayyyy overblown, and SF showed us the first game of ‘24. The second quibble is that we know about Fields. Good night, sweet prince of experiments. You can’t look like he looked against Buffalo. It’s done. Been a pro how many years? Same issues.

Agreed on draft picks- you never know!

JD/Saleh D was deeper and def better but also agree could never make a stop when needed just like now

Ill disagree as to Fields - still think there is potential there. He had awful coaching in Chi and plug pulled too early in Pitt. Hopefully he is healthy and gets the year to show his potential. You never know if a light goes on ala Baker/Sam/Geno but he definitely gets the season to show. Would be a huge boon to the rebuild if he could be the answer at QB so while I agree its a long shot im still giving him the season - problem is health.

 

[Chemical X]

it’s ranger season. i gave the jest 3 games, season is over. until they get a qb and gm that can prove a damn, not worth wasting a sunday. they are terrible and i don’t really see much difference from last year yet to be honest. just a different losing head coach.

 

[NYRAGE]

it’s ranger season. i gave the jest 3 games, season is over. until they get a qb and gm that can prove a damn, not worth wasting a sunday. they are terrible and i don’t really see much difference from last year yet to be honest. just a different losing head coach.

I seem to rotate between teams. Since the Rangers were a disaster, I had hope for the Mets. When that fizzled out, at least the Jets were around the corner. After week 3, I'm looking forward to the Rangers. It's the circle of death.

 

[rockaction]

it’s ranger season. i gave the jest 3 games, season is over. until they get a qb and gm that can prove a damn, not worth wasting a sunday. they are terrible and i don’t really see much difference from last year yet to be honest. just a different losing head coach.

I seem to rotate between teams. Since the Rangers were a disaster, I had hope for the Mets. When that fizzled out, at least the Jets were around the corner. After week 3, I'm looking forward to the Rangers. It's the circle of death.

My word, RAGE. Your teams. Did you breathe on a deity wrong or something? Criminy. Nice that Cincinnati closes with Pittsburgh and then a Milwaukee team that's likely got the #1 seed on lockdown and is probably resting guys and/or lining up their staff for the postseason. At least Cinci gets Skenes one game, but ****. Nice work if you can get it, Cincinnati.

Have fun with the Cubbies and the Marlins, NY.

Man, I'm a Red Sox fan. Our two best hitters this season are either in San Francisco or on the DL with an oblique. And the club sure ain't rushing the guy with the oblique back because they signed the kid to a 130 million dollar contract within two months (and I actually think they were right to do so, but that means the kid is now an asset) of his first big league appearance.

So the Sox get to play Toronto and what would have been a team that's resting but decided to pull a once-in-a-decade collapse and is now fighting for their own playoff lives also. Thank you, Detroit.

And why the heck are we the team in the East that has to play the only team in the Central with a positive run differential while NY and TOR get to play the East bottomfeeders playing out the string? WTF?

If the baseball scheduling were at all uniform in some way that wasn't completely arbitrary and that didn't stuff four big payrolls into one division so that we have to beat our heads against the wall every year playing a metric ****-ton of games against them, I wouldn't be so surly.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Missed the first 3 quarters playing golf.....glad I did. The 4th quarter was fun (although I'm pretty sure Lazard dropped that TD) and the McDonald play was great....but we all knew what was coming.

To be fair, I'm guessing most teams would have a hard time not giving up a FG attempt with that much time on the clock, but with this franchise it was a certainty that it would be less than 40 yards and that they would make it.

dont see a QB worth tanking for yet, so whatever.

Don't worry, we don't have to try to tank.

As sure as I was that they'd lose that game yesterday even after the blocked FG, I'm equally sure that this team will win just enough games to not be in position to draft the best QB available.

absolutely - likely eliminated from any real contention by Halloween as usual with meaningless "moral victories" in the last 2 months that the regime will claim that they can build on

Regardless - ive seen too many "generational QBs" like Trevor look lousy so im going to try to not get hung up on losing for better draft pick as ive done in past.

Dude, neither the Jets nor their fans will ever get it right. I probably wouldn’t have been happy with Dart at seven. Now I’d give a kidney for a do-over and we don’t even know anything but some preseason glimpses. I personally think you call Philly and give them a two for McKee and see if they bite.

But I’m not in charge, so there’s no danger of that. I will quibble with you a touch about two things. Joe D built a good D in 2022 and it was pretty good in 2023 but it was wayyyy overblown, and SF showed us the first game of ‘24. The second quibble is that we know about Fields. Good night, sweet prince of experiments. You can’t look like he looked against Buffalo. It’s done. Been a pro how many years? Same issues.

The Eagles have a long history of trading backup QBs for 2nd round picks. And Howie loves to trade. So you never know.

 

[sheerterror]

it’s ranger season. i gave the jest 3 games, season is over. until they get a qb and gm that can prove a damn, not worth wasting a sunday. they are terrible and i don’t really see much difference from last year yet to be honest. just a different losing head coach.

I seem to rotate between teams. Since the Rangers were a disaster, I had hope for the Mets. When that fizzled out, at least the Jets were around the corner. After week 3, I'm looking forward to the Rangers. It's the circle of death.

A-freakin-men. I just approach it all with absolutely zero expectations to lessen the disappointment. If you view it as a tragic comedy, it becomes much more palatable.

BTW, can we change the colors to blue and orange already.

 

[Chemical X]

no jets season for the 15th straight season or so, mets gagging away the playoffs. i think the knicks are my best shot this year, especially if every nba player suffers and achilles or knee injury. as i’ve said, i was too young to count 69 and 73. so, in my lifetime i have mets 86 and rangers 94 and nothing else. SAD!!!

 

[NYRAGE]

no jets season for the 15th straight season or so, mets gagging away the playoffs. i think the knicks are my best shot this year, especially if every nba player suffers and achilles or knee injury. as i’ve said, i was too young to count 69 and 73. so, in my lifetime i have mets 86 and rangers 94 and nothing else. SAD!!!

The one and only good thing about perennially sucking is that when you finally win, it's the greatest feeling on Earth.

I was 2 and 6 years old for 69 and 73. Even though I was fully invested at age 4 (I remember listening to games on the radio when I couldn't watch them), I don't count that either since how much could you experience at age 6?

Yet, I will never forget celebrating the Mets in Astoria Park back in 1986. Just magical.

Then I would have to say that the night the Rangers won the Cup in 94 was the greatest night of my life. I was at MSG. I got asked by a woman reporter live on CBS News how I felt about the Rangers finally winning the Cup and I blurted out " F... the Islanders" only to see the panic in her face.

I partied like a nut all night long and went straight to work drunk at Atlantic Records in my Rangers jersey and found a stairwell for a nice nap. I only had a couple of more days at work before I moved out of NYC after the Rangers parade.

I think it's a little sad how joyless it is rooting for my teams these days. I used to get upset for a week if the Jets lost. In mourning when the Rangers got eliminated from the playoffs. Then I had some epiphany maybe 10 years ago or less. It was kind of like the Mickey Mantle quote from "A Bronx Tale". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WkP_S5gmmg

Why should I let these guys ruin my mood for a week or even a night? So now, I seemingly mostly hate-watch the Jets, but as soon as the game is over, so am I. Sure I might yell while watching them (mostly calling them idiots), but as soon as the game is over, I don't really think about them again. Sure, I might stop by the forum at some point, but that's mostly a social thing. So when the Rangers get eliminated from the playoffs, I stop thinking about them immediately. No more lingering mood. When the Mets blow making the playoffs, I'm just like "freaking losers" and that's it. Somehow I have found a way to turn them off.

Yet, if any of my teams somehow end up good, I know that I will be celebrating somewhere. I just don't know if I will feel the same as I did in 86 or 94. Time will tell. Hell, I may not even be alive at this rate.

 

[NYRAGE]

it’s ranger season. i gave the jest 3 games, season is over. until they get a qb and gm that can prove a damn, not worth wasting a sunday. they are terrible and i don’t really see much difference from last year yet to be honest. just a different losing head coach.

I seem to rotate between teams. Since the Rangers were a disaster, I had hope for the Mets. When that fizzled out, at least the Jets were around the corner. After week 3, I'm looking forward to the Rangers. It's the circle of death.

My word, RAGE. Your teams. Did you breathe on a deity wrong or something? Criminy. Nice that Cincinnati closes with Pittsburgh and then a Milwaukee team that's likely got the #1 seed on lockdown and is probably resting guys and/or lining up their staff for the postseason. At least Cinci gets Skenes one game, but ****. Nice work if you can get it, Cincinnati.

Have fun with the Cubbies and the Marlins, NY.

Man, I'm a Red Sox fan. Our two best hitters this season are either in San Francisco or on the DL with an oblique. And the club sure ain't rushing the guy with the oblique back because they signed the kid to a 130 million dollar contract within two months (and I actually think they were right to do so, but that means the kid is now an asset) of his first big league appearance.

So the Sox get to play Toronto and what would have been a team that's resting but decided to pull a once-in-a-decade collapse and is now fighting for their own playoff lives also. Thank you, Detroit.

And why the heck are we the team in the East that has to play the only team in the Central with a positive run differential while NY and TOR get to play the East bottomfeeders playing out the string? WTF?

If the baseball scheduling were at all uniform in some way that wasn't completely arbitrary and that didn't stuff four big payrolls into one division so that we have to beat our heads against the wall every year playing a metric ****-ton of games against them, I wouldn't be so surly.

All chosen by me like a moron.

Mets - because my dad liked them and I wasn't old enough to hate my dad yet.

Jets & Rangers - because my brother liked the Dolphins and Islanders if that makes sense.

Knicks - can't remember why, but that was pretty painful, too.

I used to root for the Red Sox because you know, the enemy of my enemy. I can remember watching Tony Conigliari. I loved Freddy Lynn. Even a few years later, Pedro was my favorite pitcher. Good luck in the playoffs assuming you get in.

Don't count chickens and complain about the schedule when you are only a game up. It reminds me of my buddy talking about the potential Mets playoff schedule 2 weeks ago and which path was better to the World Series. I've been emotionally detached for about 2 months and said in Jim Mora voice, "Playoffs? Did you say playoffs?". Kind of prophetic, but even Stevie Wonder could see how they were playing for the past 2 months.

 

[rockaction]

it’s ranger season. i gave the jest 3 games, season is over. until they get a qb and gm that can prove a damn, not worth wasting a sunday. they are terrible and i don’t really see much difference from last year yet to be honest. just a different losing head coach.

I seem to rotate between teams. Since the Rangers were a disaster, I had hope for the Mets. When that fizzled out, at least the Jets were around the corner. After week 3, I'm looking forward to the Rangers. It's the circle of death.

My word, RAGE. Your teams. Did you breathe on a deity wrong or something? Criminy. Nice that Cincinnati closes with Pittsburgh and then a Milwaukee team that's likely got the #1 seed on lockdown and is probably resting guys and/or lining up their staff for the postseason. At least Cinci gets Skenes one game, but ****. Nice work if you can get it, Cincinnati.

Have fun with the Cubbies and the Marlins, NY.

Man, I'm a Red Sox fan. Our two best hitters this season are either in San Francisco or on the DL with an oblique. And the club sure ain't rushing the guy with the oblique back because they signed the kid to a 130 million dollar contract within two months (and I actually think they were right to do so, but that means the kid is now an asset) of his first big league appearance.

So the Sox get to play Toronto and what would have been a team that's resting but decided to pull a once-in-a-decade collapse and is now fighting for their own playoff lives also. Thank you, Detroit.

And why the heck are we the team in the East that has to play the only team in the Central with a positive run differential while NY and TOR get to play the East bottomfeeders playing out the string? WTF?

If the baseball scheduling were at all uniform in some way that wasn't completely arbitrary and that didn't stuff four big payrolls into one division so that we have to beat our heads against the wall every year playing a metric ****-ton of games against them, I wouldn't be so surly.

All chosen by me like a moron.

Mets - because my dad liked them and I wasn't old enough to hate my dad yet.

Jets & Rangers - because my brother liked the Dolphins and Islanders if that makes sense.

Knicks - can't remember why, but that was pretty painful, too.

I used to root for the Red Sox because you know, the enemy of my enemy. I can remember watching Tony Conigliari. I loved Freddy Lynn. Even a few years later, Pedro was my favorite pitcher. Good luck in the playoffs assuming you get in. Don't count chickens and complain about the schedule when you are only a game up. It reminds me of my buddy talking about the potential Mets playoff schedule 2 weeks ago and which path was better to the World Series. I've been emotionally detached for about 2 months and said in Jim Mora voice, "Playoffs? Did you say playoffs?". Kind of prophetic, but even Nostradamus could see how they were playing for the past 2 months.

Oh noooo.

I am not complaining about the playoff schedule. We have to get in! I don't think we will.

That's the regular season I'm bitching about.

 

[rockaction]

I just wanted to fire that off to catch you while you were still here.

I think your takes on how you picked your teams are wonderful. Made me smile, man.

 

[sheerterror]

Then I would have to say that the night the Rangers won the Cup in 94 was the greatest night of my life. I was at MSG. I got asked by a woman reporter live on CBS News how I felt about the Rangers finally winning the Cup and I blurted out " F... the Islanders" only to see the panic in her face.

A+

 

[NYRAGE]

I just wanted to fire that off to catch you while you were still here.

I think your takes on how you picked your teams are wonderful. Made me smile, man.

One of my earliest football memories was watching Stabler toss that last second miracle td to beat the Dolphins in the playoffs (74?). I think it ended their Super Bowl run. Anyway, to see my brother's reaction was something I'll never forget. He was yelling and punched a wall. I felt like little Damien at the funeral of his father at the end of the Omen.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

 

[rockaction]

Why should I let these guys ruin my mood for a week or even a night? So now, I seemingly mostly hate-watch the Jets, but as soon as the game is over, so am I. Sure I might yell while watching them (mostly calling them idiots), but as soon as the game is over, I don't really think about them again. Sure, I might stop by the forum at some point, but that's mostly a social thing. So when the Rangers get eliminated from the playoffs, I stop thinking about them immediately. No more lingering mood. When the Mets blow making the playoffs, I'm just like "freaking losers" and that's it. Somehow I have found a way to turn them off.

You know what's crazy? I haven't let more than one sporting event affect me since 2011. 2011 was when the Red Sox blew a ten or so game lead in late August and September to blow the wild card only to find out that the players were drinking beer during the games in the dugout and just screwing around the whole time and when they got caught they were like, "Screw everybody. Why is this a story? Who cares? I hate Boston."

I realized at the age of 38 that it was just a job to some of these dudes and I wasn't making jack from caring about it. The last time I cared about a sporting event that ruined my mood for the day and night was when Breece Hall tore his ACL because I thought he had a legitimate shot to be one of the all-time greats. In retrospect, I might have gotten a little heady with that, but that's how I felt at the time.

 

[NYRAGE]

Why should I let these guys ruin my mood for a week or even a night? So now, I seemingly mostly hate-watch the Jets, but as soon as the game is over, so am I. Sure I might yell while watching them (mostly calling them idiots), but as soon as the game is over, I don't really think about them again. Sure, I might stop by the forum at some point, but that's mostly a social thing. So when the Rangers get eliminated from the playoffs, I stop thinking about them immediately. No more lingering mood. When the Mets blow making the playoffs, I'm just like "freaking losers" and that's it. Somehow I have found a way to turn them off.

You know what's crazy? I haven't let more than one sporting event affect me since 2011. 2011 was when the Red Sox blew a ten or so game lead in late August and September to blow the wild card only to find out that the players were drinking beer during the games in the dugout and just screwing around the whole time and when they got caught they were like, "Screw everybody. Why is this a story? Who cares? I hate Boston."

I realized at the age of 38 that it was just a job to some of these dudes and I wasn't making jack from caring about it. The last time I cared about a sporting event that ruined my mood for the day and night was when Breece Hall tore his ACL because I thought he had a legitimate shot to be one of the all-time greats. In retrospect, I might have gotten a little heady with that, but that's how I felt at the time.

Don't worry, I still have you down as one of the great all-time posters, albeit just slightly ahead of J. Bryant. Even this anti-Jets tangent of yours lately won't knock you from the top perch....unless you start posting about how great Rodgers looks. Plus you're punk rock.

 

[Kiddnets]

Great posts -

Fandom is such a personal journey - love hearing the stories. Im asked all the time - why not just stop the torture and pick a new team. Thats just not possible.

I was brought up a Jets fan as my father purchased season tix in the 60s - the day they signed Namath . I went to Shea as a little kid - my dad tipping the usher a few dollars instead of buying me a ticket - an saw OJ Simpson run wild through poor Jet D. But also remember Jerome Barkum catching a TD at the last second and my dad and I screaming our heads off - then celebrating in the Shea Diamond Club bar where somehow as a young kid I was surrounded by drunks with Klecko, Lyons and Gastineu coming in to drink with the fans to celebrate.

Then moved to NJ where we kept season tix but began tailgating which has been a staple for decades which continues at the air conditioner unit - Met Life

Gamedays now not only includes my dad and I but close friends, cousins, people we met over the years in the lot and now my family wife and kids are rabid fans. It brings us together - we are conditioned for losses but still enjoy the time and game. Wins are rare but sweet when they are meaningful - been a while for one of those!

My dad saw a Super Bowl - I wasnt born yet and Im not so sure Ill see one before my time is over - but my kids have to - or so says Chat GPT - so it does make me smile that maybe when they are old and Im long gone the Jets will win it all and they'll remember my dad and I and all the good times leading up to it. My dream is they pull it off one more time while we are all together. Maybe too much an ask but thats the thing in sports - you never know! And as stated above - the euphoria would last for weeks! Still cant even imagine it -

Anyway - its part of my DNA now like most lifelong fans so I have to endure some nonsense like Woody and the press but still somehow I love this team and cant get enough. With all of life's craziness - its an escape that you can do with others - which is why I love this thread as well! IMO thats what life is all about.

Ok end of sentiments - now lets get back to getting our hearts collectively ripped out or find a way to squish the fish!

 

[Bri]

The Jets just robbed the Titans
Jarvis Brownlee is elite. The opposing QBs have even been avoiding him.

Look at his yards allowed for last year or this year.

Jarvis Brownlee Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Checkout the latest stats for Jarvis Brownlee. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

 

[Crash Davis]

The Jets just robbed the Titans
Jarvis Brownlee is elite. The opposing QBs have even been avoiding him.

Look at his yards allowed for last year or this year.

Jarvis Brownlee Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Checkout the latest stats for Jarvis Brownlee. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

He was also among the most penalized CBs last year. I'm sure the Jet's will clean that right up... That said, for the cost and considering the play of Stephens so far I like the move. Something has to change on defense and losing Quincy is going to be tough. I'd like to see them try to move Stephens to safety since he played there earlier in his career. Can't be worse than what we have there now coupled with him at CB.

 

[Bri]

The Jets just robbed the Titans
Jarvis Brownlee is elite. The opposing QBs have even been avoiding him.

Look at his yards allowed for last year or this year.

Jarvis Brownlee Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Checkout the latest stats for Jarvis Brownlee. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

He was also among the most penalized CBs last year. I'm sure the Jet's will clean that right up... That said, for the cost and considering the play of Stephens so far I like the move. Something has to change on defense and losing Quincy is going to be tough. I'd like to see them try to move Stephens to safety since he played there earlier in his career. Can't be worse than what we have there now coupled with him at CB.

Denard insists they press and they drafted CBs that do that.
Brownlee gets penalized for hands later in the route sometimes.
Generally the penalties are he and the WR have their hands on the ball and people saying oh c'mon now.
He's firey as all get out. He's my favorite CB to watch.
Last year Justin Jefferson and other elite WRs gave glowing quotes after playing against him.

We had a dawg and gave him away for a sandwich.
Former CB Aaron Glenn is probably dancing again today.
Jets ain't even talking that he was in a boot Sunday they're just getting it done before anyone can buck

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Well one of the few good things about being a Jets fan is most of us absolutely knew they were going to lose that game at the end

Absolutely

 

[Kiddnets]

Titans boards are unhappy so thats a good sign ravens boards were ecstatic when we overpaid for stephens - maybe he becomes a safety?

Brownlee on a great contract next few yrs so that helps offset Stephens disaster

 

[Bri]

Titans boards are unhappy so thats a good sign ravens boards were ecstatic when we overpaid for stephens - maybe he becomes a safety?

Brownlee on a great contract next few yrs so that helps offset Stephens disaster

He played against Davante, Puka, Courtney, and Franklin and only allowed 8 catches and was only targeted 10 times for 61 yards.

He is elite. This was robbery.

You don't switch his position.

He is very handsy and it's tricky to take that away from him and also get illegal contact downfield penalties away without taking the dawg out of him. That's Glenn's problem and one he can handle too.

For the year in 2024, he started most games at 983 snaps- he only allowed 483 yards.

Sauce allowed 540 yards in 880 snaps in 2024.

I let the nitpickers nitpick and claim whatever junk they want. As long as WRs aren't catching balls on him, I'm thrilled.

 

[Kiddnets]

Titans boards are unhappy so thats a good sign ravens boards were ecstatic when we overpaid for stephens - maybe he becomes a safety?

Brownlee on a great contract next few yrs so that helps offset Stephens disaster

He played against Davante, Puka, Courtney, and Franklin and only allowed 8 catches and was only targeted 10 times for 61 yards.

He is elite. This was robbery.

You don't switch his position.

He is very handsy and it's tricky to take that away from him and also get illegal contact downfield penalties away without taking the dawg out of him. That's Glenn's problem and one he can handle too.

For the year in 2024, he started most games at 983 snaps- he only allowed 483 yards.

Sauce allowed 540 yards in 880 snaps in 2024.

I let the nitpickers nitpick and claim whatever junk they want. As long as WRs aren't catching balls on him, I'm thrilled.

good stuff! I meant Stephens changes to safety - hes an awful CB but has range and height

 

[NYRAGE]

The Jets just robbed the Titans
Jarvis Brownlee is elite. The opposing QBs have even been avoiding him.

Look at his yards allowed for last year or this year.

Jarvis Brownlee Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Checkout the latest stats for Jarvis Brownlee. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

He was also among the most penalized CBs last year. I'm sure the Jet's will clean that right up... That said, for the cost and considering the play of Stephens so far I like the move. Something has to change on defense and losing Quincy is going to be tough. I'd like to see them try to move Stephens to safety since he played there earlier in his career. Can't be worse than what we have there now coupled with him at CB.

We are the best at taking penalties, so we can work on his technique to perfect leading the league in penalties. No more half measures. With the right approach, we can get him to commit a penalty on every play just like Clemons.

Anyway, sounds like a good deal especially for the cost.

 

[rockaction]

Titans boards are unhappy so thats a good sign ravens boards were ecstatic when we overpaid for stephens - maybe he becomes a safety?

Brownlee on a great contract next few yrs so that helps offset Stephens disaster

He played against Davante, Puka, Courtney, and Franklin and only allowed 8 catches and was only targeted 10 times for 61 yards.

He is elite. This was robbery.

You don't switch his position.

He is very handsy and it's tricky to take that away from him and also get illegal contact downfield penalties away without taking the dawg out of him. That's Glenn's problem and one he can handle too.

For the year in 2024, he started most games at 983 snaps- he only allowed 483 yards.

Sauce allowed 540 yards in 880 snaps in 2024.

I let the nitpickers nitpick and claim whatever junk they want. As long as WRs aren't catching balls on him, I'm thrilled.

Sauce was not good last year. I was reluctant to celebrate either his or Wilson's contracts because I think both are a touch overrated, but what can you do? You're the Jets. This is definitely a good trade. I was thrilled and couldn't believe it. Solved the Stephens debacle pretty quickly other than the cap issue.

 

[Bri]

I love that I just heard "do you think we'll run more now" on the radio from a Jets fan.


Parcellsian logic is coming thru just like Glenn probably wanted

 

[NYRAGE]

Titans boards are unhappy so thats a good sign ravens boards were ecstatic when we overpaid for stephens - maybe he becomes a safety?

Brownlee on a great contract next few yrs so that helps offset Stephens disaster

He played against Davante, Puka, Courtney, and Franklin and only allowed 8 catches and was only targeted 10 times for 61 yards.

He is elite. This was robbery.

You don't switch his position.

He is very handsy and it's tricky to take that away from him and also get illegal contact downfield penalties away without taking the dawg out of him. That's Glenn's problem and one he can handle too.

For the year in 2024, he started most games at 983 snaps- he only allowed 483 yards.

Sauce allowed 540 yards in 880 snaps in 2024.

I let the nitpickers nitpick and claim whatever junk they want. As long as WRs aren't catching balls on him, I'm thrilled.

Sauce was not good last year. I was reluctant to celebrate either his or Wilson's contracts because I think both are a touch overrated, but what can you do? You're the Jets. This is definitely a good trade. I was thrilled and couldn't believe it. Solved the Stephens debacle pretty quickly other than the cap issue.

What makes you think they will replace Stephens? Logically they should, but will they admit defeat already since they went out and paid this bum? Ideally they move Stephens to safety or even better, to the Moon.

I've never been a Sauce fan btw.

 

[rockaction]

Titans boards are unhappy so thats a good sign ravens boards were ecstatic when we overpaid for stephens - maybe he becomes a safety?

Brownlee on a great contract next few yrs so that helps offset Stephens disaster

He played against Davante, Puka, Courtney, and Franklin and only allowed 8 catches and was only targeted 10 times for 61 yards.

He is elite. This was robbery.

You don't switch his position.

He is very handsy and it's tricky to take that away from him and also get illegal contact downfield penalties away without taking the dawg out of him. That's Glenn's problem and one he can handle too.

For the year in 2024, he started most games at 983 snaps- he only allowed 483 yards.

Sauce allowed 540 yards in 880 snaps in 2024.

I let the nitpickers nitpick and claim whatever junk they want. As long as WRs aren't catching balls on him, I'm thrilled.

Sauce was not good last year. I was reluctant to celebrate either his or Wilson's contracts because I think both are a touch overrated, but what can you do? You're the Jets. This is definitely a good trade. I was thrilled and couldn't believe it. Solved the Stephens debacle pretty quickly other than the cap issue.

What makes you think they will replace Stephens? Logically they should, but will they admit defeat already since they went out and paid this bum? Ideally they move Stephens to safety or even better, to the Moon.

I've never been a Sauce fan btw.

If Brownlee is in the boot, we're going to have to wait to find out regardless of the excitement.

Yes, I will admit that even in my IDP world I didn't know who Stephens was nor that he was awful until the Jets got involved with his career. So I can't really get too indignant but it seems like as soon as we signed him you guys were all like, "noooooooo . . ." so I tend to trust you guys and wonder what Mougey was thinking. I was confused by Arian Smith also. I mean, I get valuing your guy and taking him where you think you should take him before anybody gets him, but that cat was about to go in the 7th if at all.

Some ominous stuff already with the GM/HC combo. Weird picks. A team that gets penalized. You know. Jets stuff.

 

[Crash Davis]

The Jets just robbed the Titans
Jarvis Brownlee is elite. The opposing QBs have even been avoiding him.

Look at his yards allowed for last year or this year.

Jarvis Brownlee Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft, College | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Checkout the latest stats for Jarvis Brownlee. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, college, draft, and more on Pro-football-reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

He was also among the most penalized CBs last year. I'm sure the Jet's will clean that right up... That said, for the cost and considering the play of Stephens so far I like the move. Something has to change on defense and losing Quincy is going to be tough. I'd like to see them try to move Stephens to safety since he played there earlier in his career. Can't be worse than what we have there now coupled with him at CB.

Denard insists they press and they drafted CBs that do that.
Brownlee gets penalized for hands later in the route sometimes.
Generally the penalties are he and the WR have their hands on the ball and people saying oh c'mon now.
He's firey as all get out. He's my favorite CB to watch.
Last year Justin Jefferson and other elite WRs gave glowing quotes after playing against him.

We had a dawg and gave him away for a sandwich.
Former CB Aaron Glenn is probably dancing again today.
Jets ain't even talking that he was in a boot Sunday they're just getting it done before anyone can buck

Titans boards are unhappy so thats a good sign ravens boards were ecstatic when we overpaid for stephens - maybe he becomes a safety?

Brownlee on a great contract next few yrs so that helps offset Stephens disaster

He played against Davante, Puka, Courtney, and Franklin and only allowed 8 catches and was only targeted 10 times for 61 yards.

He is elite. This was robbery.

You don't switch his position.

He is very handsy and it's tricky to take that away from him and also get illegal contact downfield penalties away without taking the dawg out of him. That's Glenn's problem and one he can handle too.

For the year in 2024, he started most games at 983 snaps- he only allowed 483 yards.

Sauce allowed 540 yards in 880 snaps in 2024.

I let the nitpickers nitpick and claim whatever junk they want. As long as WRs aren't catching balls on him, I'm thrilled.

Thanks, it's the Jets fan way to find the negative when people are praising a move they made. We are conditioned to not get too excited or optimistic, lol. I appreciate you coming here and shedding light on him as I have admittedly not watched many Titans games. Based on your posts and the other Titans fans being upset about this I'm more excited than I would have been if I had just read the beat writer reports.

 

[Bri]

Forgot Jets "passing game coordinator" aka secondary coach is Chris Harris.
He was with the Titans last year

 

[Bri]

RichCimini
·
11h
Brownlee hasn't played a lot in the slot (93 snaps over the last one-plus year), but he could provide depth behind Michael Carter II. They really don't have a backup slot. Malachi Moore can play there, but he's playing safety with Tony Adams sidelined

 

[rockaction]

RichCimini
·
11h
Brownlee hasn't played a lot in the slot (93 snaps over the last one-plus year), but he could provide depth behind Michael Carter II. They really don't have a backup slot. Malachi Moore can play there, but he's playing safety with Tony Adams sidelined

Yeah, I don't know if you've read too many articles by Rich Cimini, but I always wonder whose closet he got into at ESPN. He's a freaking hack. eta* I was impetuous. Sometimes he is exasperating and his obtuseness seems willful.

Anyway, in much better news, I think we really hit it out of the freaking park this year in the first round. Would I do it over again for Jaxson Dart? Yeah, probably. But let's enjoy the hell out of our first-round tackle.

The 33rd Team
@The33rdTeamFB

Lowest pressure rates allowed by rookie offensive linemen in Week 3 (min. 15 pass protection snaps):

1. Josh Conerly Jr., WSH - 0% (23 pass snaps/0 pressures allowed)
2. Armand Membou, NYJ - 2.2% (47/1)
3. Tate Ratledge, DET - 3.4% (30/1)
4. Donovan Jackson, MIN - 3.7% (28/1)
5. Tyler Booker, DAL - 4.3% (47/2)


Pleasure reading:

"After the Jets drafted Membou in April, HC Aaron Glenn noted the Missouri product athletically was "off the charts." Membou, who posted a 34-inch vertical and a 9-7 broad jump, was one of four O-linemen ever to surpass a 30-inch vertical and run a sub-5.0 40 at 315-plus pounds at the Combine. He didn't give up any sacks or QB hits in 411 pass-blocking snaps last season and entered the pros hungry after reportedly signing a four-year deal worth $31.9 million."- Eric Allen, newyorkjets.com

Jets Rookie Tackle Armand Membou Adjusting Quickly to the NFL

By the way, if you missed it because the big number comes first, that's one pressure in forty-seven freaking dropbacks. Against Diaby and Reddick, who are not slouches. Diaby gets mad pressure. In fact, that's what he's known for and what Tampa is banking on him converting (I roster him in IDP). And Reddick we know can be legit if he wants to play.

 

[NYRAGE]

@rockaction

Membou has been great, but it sure would be nice to have a QB. Fast forward to 30 years from now. I'm 88 and saying: It sure would be nice to have a QB in my lifetime.

 

[rockaction]

@rockaction

Membou has been great, but it sure would be nice to have a QB. Fast forward to 30 years from now. I'm 88 and saying: It sure would be nice to have a QB in my lifetime.

Damn skippy. I think way upthread . . .no, it's in the Breece Hall or Braelon Allen thread that I'm going a bit frothy and talking about walking this pick back and picking over no matter what and with total certitude I'd like a redo just for that damn lottery ticket.

 

[rockaction]

Post in thread 'RB Braelon Allen, NYJ'

Aug 26, 2025

@rockaction What's your take on Aaron Glenn? Any chance he could take this team in a different direction or are the headwinds too strong even for him?

You know what? I have to give him a chance and I really might sound like I'm not but I have two and now three things that I don't like. Keep in mind that I have been so disgusted with the Jets that I haven't followed the minutiae of the offseason. But there are actually four things

1) I'm not a real fan of coaches that play hard-*** either through the media to their players or try and play hard-*** against the beats and media...

• rockaction

• 
• 

This is where I'm expressing that we need a QB. Dart's preseason was setting me off. Heh.

 

[Bri]

RichCimini
·
11h
Brownlee hasn't played a lot in the slot (93 snaps over the last one-plus year), but he could provide depth behind Michael Carter II. They really don't have a backup slot. Malachi Moore can play there, but he's playing safety with Tony Adams sidelined

Yeah, I don't know if you've read too many articles by Rich Cimini, but I always wonder whose closet he got into at ESPN. He's a freaking hack. eta* I was impetuous. Sometimes he is exasperating and his obtuseness seems willful.

Anyway, in much better news, I think we really hit it out of the freaking park this year in the first round. Would I do it over again for Jaxson Dart? Yeah, probably. But let's enjoy the hell out of our first-round tackle.

I have had a few reporters friends that are friends w Rich for a very long time. Also Rich knows several Titans reporters.

The older I get the more I have learned grace. He's been very negative this year. I assume and believe he's got something going on personally.

I can recognize a negative Nelly and ...I've been there myself. It's very difficult to write every day when something bad is going on in life.

My problem is IDK when a player stinks or he's just in a mood. I send a note wishing him well and share his opinion because I respect it. He's usually excellent.

NJ has had some of the best reporters and I consider him one of them. We grew up with some great ones like Lupica and had WFAN as this novel concept that turned into an enormous trend and then business and now sports podcasts even. There wasn't sports radio talk before WFAN. We "saw" the lumps and the great moments and....I tell Woj he never would have been famous if he didn't learn by covering my high school games Woj and I haven't kept in touch but we used to both say Steve Cohen was Adam Schefter (and Woj) before Adam Schefter. Friday injury and news update gave me so many FF wins in the time before the Internet. Steve was gold. To this day I can critique radio and podcasts better than most (imo) and truly believe it's because that's what we did. We grew up doing that with WFAN and I still don't think Imus was good

The Jets aren't good and my lifelong friends are tired of it and tired of false hope. We've teased since elementary school and some times I think the Titans stinking so they can give me some flack has really made their season the last couple years. We have some fun back n forths during bad Sundays. I grew up in a sea of either blue or green but I really wonder what it's like to be a Jets fan in NY/NJ now. Some of their kids would never root for the Jets and (my son says "the way you complain about the Titans"....) I never experienced that. Most sons rooted for who their father did. It's kinda sad and interesting and yet I get it. Anywho, I don't know what it's like covering that.

Sorry rant, there's a lot of misery loves company. Rich will get better again soon enough and I'm actually happy about rekindling some old friendships and the jokes with our teams stinking. The Jets are far closer to winning than my Titans- they're not equal- I only meant in this friend way.

 

[rockaction]

The older I get the more I have learned grace. He's been very negative this year. I assume and believe he's got something going on personally.

Yeah, I corrected myself relatively quickly because of exactly this sentiment. You probably have dealt with me enough to know I'm an emotional cat who will settle right down once I get my moral compass pointing north again. It gets out of whack here and there, especially about topics I feel passionate about.

Rich Cimini is not a bad journalist. I used to work in proximity to journos and writers so when I say he's not bad, it's not a dig. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't familiar with the work and milieu of some of the guys that were just at the top of their game during the time they wrote. So I have pretty high standards. I think what confused me about Rich Cimini is that he never presented as tabloid-style journalist, yet (and this is probably because I love Breece) he was awfully weird about how the Jets were going to trade Breece a while back, and while I know the Jets might do it, and they're not above lying, I remember thinking about the story in a lot of depth and it sounded made up at the time. I have no idea if it was. I got over it. But I remember fans brought it to Breece's attention and he calls attention to it on social media and now you've got a New York story where what I thought was made-up **** might have gotten its Big Bang into reality.

But yeah, if he's going through ****? I don't want to be hostile or a jerk. I know what that feels like, especially to go through it alone. Mea culpa on the "hack" stuff and I apologize.

 

[Chemical X]

as an fyi, under a defensive HC, this team has zero takeaways. for his career, gardner has 3 INTs, 2 during his rookie year. i don’t remember the last time a safety picked off a pass.

 

[rockaction]

as an fyi, under a defensive HC, this team has zero takeaways. for his career, gardner has 3 INTs, 2 during his rookie year. i don’t remember the last time a safety picked off a pass.

They stink. I don’t know if turnovers are the biggest issue. I think not giving up ten yards every play or two is what a team this bereft of talent should worry about.

I hate to turn a thread against me. Trust me I hate it, but I tried a few months ago to say, “Guys, look at your roster. It’s atrocious.” I guess Sauce and Garrett got their bags. If I were them, I might not have signed on. Wow are they bad. They never even bothered with a WR2 and what were they on when they signed CB2? Now we’re missing LB1 and his replacement is a rook or a guy off of some other club’s practice squad. We do have a pretty good but overpaid DT1. That's okay. Lots of teams do. We got a surprise in one of our trades, and even though his athleticism is merely decent, we got a guy who apparently can rotate in with a classy vet who is an average DT2. Good.

There are 155 DEs in the NFL that qualify for a grade from PFF. That means they're good enough to be on the field, so I want to say that right off. Well, the eye test tells us that our DE1 can be dazzling in certain aspects of the game. He's a first-round talent. He does admittedly have a weakness. About 40 or so percent of the game is when the other team runs the ball. He has trouble with this part of the game. Like, 40 percent is just gone as far as he goes. Wait, rock, you say. You exaggerate. Well, I'm a man given to passion but not untruths. Our DE1 at the moment is so inept at this thing called stopping the run that he earned a PFF run grade of . . . 35.2. That's out of a scale of 100, which makes him the 150th-rated player out of those 155 qualifying DEs. His pass rush or passing down grade? Must be awesome, right? Like surely he dominates. At least in the 80s, right?! Well, not exactly. 67.1, making him the 50th out of 155 DEs. So if you were to evenly distribute those guys to each of the 32 teams in the NFL in order, everybody would get a DE1 that are really truly DE1s that are better than our DE1. There's an entire league of DE1s that are better. Then you go through 19 more of them before we get to him, our own beloved DE1, who really is a DE2. Not too bad, right? Well that's only if you only consider his strength. Oof. If you add that 40 or so percent I talked about, he's 67th in the NFL. He's not even a DE2. I know, I know. You're pissed and protest. But he's not really our DE1! Our other DE1 isn't here right now! And you're right! Indeed he isn't! And he hasn't been. He is injured and missing games after being injured the entire year last year with a torn Achilles tendon. So, competency-wise, we're back to the practice squad for DEs. We better go grab one and pair him with what is really a DE3 masquerading as our DE1. Nice.

So I guess when you go hit up our practice squad for DE2, don't forget to grab our LB2, WR2, and our S2 also. Should we move on to the left side of our OL and our TEs? Oh my

Jesus, type this **** out.

 

[NYRAGE]

as an fyi, under a defensive HC, this team has zero takeaways. for his career, gardner has 3 INTs, 2 during his rookie year. i don’t remember the last time a safety picked off a pass.

Our safeties are useless and Sauce must play with greased oven mitts.

What's even worse than not getting INTs is what is our ratio on recovering fumbles??? It has to be like 2% even when we are the only players in the area. I have never seen a team miss more lose footballs than this team over the years. It's like rigged dice. It never lands their way like sort of everlasting voodoo curse.

 

[Chemical X]

as an fyi, under a defensive HC, this team has zero takeaways. for his career, gardner has 3 INTs, 2 during his rookie year. i don’t remember the last time a safety picked off a pass.

Our safeties are useless and Sauce must play with greased oven mitts.

What's even worse than not getting INTs is what is our ratio on recovering fumbles??? It has to be like 2% even when we are the only players in the area. I have never seen a team miss more lose footballs than this team over the years. It's like rigged dice. It never lands their way like sort of everlasting voodoo curse.

i don’t remember a strip sack. a big int. heck, i can’t even name all the safeties that have passed thru here. makes me crave the marcus maye and jamal adams losing era.