Indy still 2nd best? (1 Viewer)

[Captain Spaulding]

Only lose by 2 points on the road to a scary but inconsistent Chargers team.

- Vineteri misses chip shot for first time EVER!

- Manning has worst INT game of his career

- Spot Chargers 14 points on Special Teams slop

Add it all up and the fact that the Colts played as sloppy as humanly possible a team can play in the NFL, on the road against an at least average NFL football team and barely lose.

The fact the NE went into Indy last week, put up the most penalty yards in their history and won the game, makes them so far head and shoulders above the Colts its not funny.

Colts played almost identical to the Steelers yesterday...with just the slightest point differential between a W vs L, but the Steelers didn't commit 6 INT's either.

I think this game by the Colts though does create some more separation between themselves and the Pats and narrows the gap some between the Colts and the 3-headed dragon of Pitt/Dalla/GB.

But I still got the Colts at #2.

 

[MDSkinner]

I definitely think so, especially given the injury situation that they were dealing with last night.

As horrible as they played, they still should have won that game. To me that is pretty telling.

 

[wilson2112]

Only lose by 2 points on the road to a scary but inconsistent Chargers team.

- Vineteri misses chip shot for first time EVER!

- Manning has worst INT game of his career

- Spot Chargers 14 points on Special Teams slop

Add it all up and the fact that the Colts played as sloppy as humanly possible a team can play in the NFL, on the road against an at least average NFL football team and barely lose.

The fact the NE went into Indy last week, put up the most penalty yards in their history and won the game, makes them so far head and shoulders above the Colts its not funny.

Colts played almost identical to the Steelers yesterday...with just the slightest point differential between a W vs L, but the Steelers didn't commit 6 INT's either.

I think this game by the Colts though does create some more separation between themselves and the Pats and narrows the gap some between the Colts and the 3-headed dragon of Pitt/Dalla/GB.

But I still got the Colts at #2.

You could make an argument that the bolded part is the reason why they wouldn't be the #2 team anymore. There are three phases to every football team, and because one doesn't play well, you can't discount it in your evaluations. I would put Dallas at #2 because they are playing well in all three phases of their game.

 

[Despyzer]

They played their absolutely worst game and still could have/should have won it. I'm not sure if that says more about the Colts or the Chargers though.

 

[djcolts]

It doesn't matter. They are #3 in the AFC in reality, and will need some major help to get the #2 seed. The Steelers are in the driver's seat for the other bye spot.

 

[Nigel]

My lasting impression of that game is "wow, the Chargers are awful."

My opinion as Indy as the 2nd best team has not changed.

 

[Steelnation]

It doesn't matter. They are #3 in the AFC in reality, and will need some major help to get the #2 seed. The Steelers are in the driver's seat for the other bye spot.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

The Colts if they have everyone on their team healthy can be No.1

That is not the reality of the situation right now. They have severely dinged up and with the team they ended the game with last night, they are NOT no. 2. They are still a good football team but they slide down a few notches IMO. A lot to me also depends on what happened to Freeney. If he's out for a long period of time, that defense is seriously downgraded.

 

[plymkr]

It doesn't matter. They are #3 in the AFC in reality, and will need some major help to get the #2 seed. The Steelers are in the driver's seat for the other bye spot.

Temporary. The Pats will blast the Steelers, and the roles will be reversed. Don't get your hopes up.

 

[3C's]

It doesn't matter. They are #3 in the AFC in reality, and will need some major help to get the #2 seed. The Steelers are in the driver's seat for the other bye spot.

Temporary. The Pats will blast the Steelers, and the roles will be reversed. Don't get your hopes up.

Exactly.Indy is w/o a doubt the 2nd best team. And they're not that far off from #1. If Harrison returns.

 

[twitch]

Indy's lack of quality depth is killing them right now. Theyre a team with some high dollar, upper-tier talent. And the contracts of guys like Manning, Freeney, Wayne and Harrison force them to roster alot of really young, low-dollar players. And soon theyll have to pay Bob Sanders and Clark both top dollars. Those big money contracts just handcuff a team when it comes to roster depth. They proably have more 1st and 2nd year players than any team in the league. And when starters go down in droves, its bound to hurt.

So, while they will probably heal up and get their starters back and eventually play much better, right now theyre just not the 2nd best TEAM. They may have the 2nd best collection of STARTERS. But during a 16 game season, guys get hurt and the backups have to play and step up. A team is measured by the total results of 53 men. Not just 22. Right now, Ive gotta give Dallas full respect. Theyve only lost to NE, and they just walked into the Meadowlands and handled a very good football team.

 

[wilson2112]

Indy's lack of quality depth is killing them right now. Theyre a team with some high dollar, upper-tier talent. And the contracts of guys like Manning, Freeney, Wayne and Harrison force them to roster alot of really young, low-dollar players. And soon theyll have to pay Bob Sanders and Clark both top dollars. Those big money contracts just handcuff a team when it comes to roster depth. They proably have more 1st and 2nd year players than any team in the league. And when starters go down in droves, its bound to hurt. So, while they will probably heal up and get their starters back and eventually play much better, right now theyre just not the 2nd best TEAM. They may have the 2nd best collection of STARTERS. But during a 16 game season, guys get hurt and the backups have to play and step up. A team is measured by the total results of 53 men. Not just 22. Right now, Ive gotta give Dallas full respect. Theyve only lost to NE, and they just walked into the Meadowlands and handled a very good football team.

 

[Power Monster]

I think that distinction goes to GB. Time to give that team the respect they deserve.

 

[daveandken]

I think that distinction goes to GB. Time to give that team the respect they deserve.

Or the Cowboys, who have only lost to NE.I guess we'll find out for sure on Thanksgiving.

 

[Power Monster]

The Cowboys are right there. Great call and a huge win in NYC for them....

 

[sho nuff]

I think that distinction goes to GB. Time to give that team the respect they deserve.

Or the Cowboys, who have only lost to NE.I guess we'll find out for sure on Thanksgiving.

Or the week after.Id love for the Packers to be #2. Just not seeing it yet.I think some of the "dallas is far and away the best of the NFC" talk that has been going on the networks is a bit ridiculous. I think GB's D gets them closer if not ahead of Dallas.Though I think they are a notch behind Indy and Pitt at this point. (and of course NE as #1)

 

[twitch]

I think that distinction goes to GB. Time to give that team the respect they deserve.

Full respect to Green Bay. Theyre playing every bit as good as Dallas. And theyve already done what Dallas just did yesterday. Cant wait to see these 2 teams square off.

 

[kerpow]

I suppose it's your definition of the better team. If you mean who has the best outlook for the rest of the season I think the Colts are still no.2 but if you mean right now, I think Dallas and Pitt would both beat them. Not so much Green Bay though.

 

[((Morpheus))]

If anything, watching Indy struggle has given me a newfound respect for the Patriots. It's always felt like their 53rd man is better than the 33rd man from most other teams.

And yes, Indy is still the 2nd best team in the league (apologies to Dallas and Pittsburgh, who aren't far behind)... but the Pats are #1 by a long shot.

 

[sho nuff]

I suppose it's your definition of the better team. If you mean who has the best outlook for the rest of the season I think the Colts are still no.2 but if you mean right now, I think Dallas and Pitt would both beat them. Not so much Green Bay though.

Why do you think Dallas could beat Indy but not GB?Do you realize GB's defense is just barely behind Pitt in points allowed (much better than Dallas' D).I think it would be a good game, and yes, I think Indy would win most of the time...but GB can give them a game as much as Dallas could.

 

[eom]

I think that distinction goes to GB. Time to give that team the respect they deserve.

Full respect to Green Bay. Theyre playing every bit as good as Dallas. And theyve already done what Dallas just did yesterday. Cant wait to see these 2 teams square off.

??didn't dallas beat up on the giants in week 1?

 

[sho nuff]

I think that distinction goes to GB. Time to give that team the respect they deserve.

Full respect to Green Bay. Theyre playing every bit as good as Dallas. And theyve already done what Dallas just did yesterday. Cant wait to see these 2 teams square off.

??didn't dallas beat up on the giants in week 1?

Yes...they did at home.I think he meant by going into Giants stadium and winning.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I heard Troy Aikman mention yesterday that he didn't think Green Bay was in the class Dallas was. I've also heard Aikman talk over the years and he isn't just a Dallas homer, he's been very critical when speaking about Dallas in the past.

I will say I just don't see it though. I think Dallas will win, but I'm a fan, of course I think that. I think when you look at how these two teams are playing it's going to be a tough game.

To claim Dallas is at a different level than Green Bay I just don't see it. I think the game will be a good one, not one team playing at an entirely different level than the other.

 

[twitch]

Green Bay seems to have the corners to matchup well with alot of good passing teams. Better than Dallas' corners. But Id probably give an overall edge to the Dallas passing game. More experienced playmakers and better running game make them harder to defend. That game will be every bit as big as the Colts/Pats for the same reason. It will go a long way in determining who has homefield advantage in the NFC.

 

[sho nuff]

I heard Troy Aikman mention yesterday that he didn't think Green Bay was in the class Dallas was. I've also heard Aikman talk over the years and he isn't just a Dallas homer, he's been very critical when speaking about Dallas in the past.I will say I just don't see it though. I think Dallas will win, but I'm a fan, of course I think that. I think when you look at how these two teams are playing it's going to be a tough game.To claim Dallas is at a different level than Green Bay I just don't see it. I think the game will be a good one, not one team playing at an entirely different level than the other.

Sounded more like Buck saying those things than Aikman IMO.

 

[sho nuff]

Green Bay seems to have the corners to matchup well with alot of good passing teams. Better than Dallas' corners. But Id probably give an overall edge to the Dallas passing game. More experienced playmakers and better running game make them harder to defend. That game will be every bit as big as the Colts/Pats for the same reason. It will go a long way in determining who has homefield advantage in the NFC.

The Packers do have the corners to matchup...not many teams can play the press coverage like GB...and if they get a good bump they can take TO out of the game.The problem will be that Witten will eat them alive.

 

[boubucarow]

As stated, the healthy recovery of many of their players is the key to their season. If Harrison, Ugoh, Freeney, Clark, etc... are healthy come January, they are as lethal as the Patriots. If they are riddled with injuries like last night, they will be a shell of a contender just like any team would be.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

As stated, the healthy recovery of many of their players is the key to their season. If Harrison, Ugoh, Freeney, Clark, etc... are healthy come January, they are as lethal as the Patriots. If they are riddled with injuries like last night, they will be a shell of a contender just like any team would be.

But for some reason when key Pats starters are riddled with injuries, it doesn't matter (Maroney, Seymour etc.).

 

[boubucarow]

As stated, the healthy recovery of many of their players is the key to their season. If Harrison, Ugoh, Freeney, Clark, etc... are healthy come January, they are as lethal as the Patriots. If they are riddled with injuries like last night, they will be a shell of a contender just like any team would be.

But for some reason when key Pats starters are riddled with injuries, it doesn't matter (Maroney, Seymour etc.).

Maroney and Addai are important but both teams have proven that they can recover from their short term absences. I will give you Seymour and Harrison as they are important cogs that are not easily replaced. However, all I stated is that if healthy, the Colts are as lethal as a healthy Pats teams. The Pats do have more depth and can succeed with some injuries but if Light, Seymour, Watson, Moss, and Stallworth are not playing, they become extremely vulnerable just like the Colts last night without their similar stars.

 

[daveandken]

I suppose it's your definition of the better team. If you mean who has the best outlook for the rest of the season I think the Colts are still no.2 but if you mean right now, I think Dallas and Pitt would both beat them. Not so much Green Bay though.

Do you realize GB's defense is just barely behind Pitt in points allowed (much better than Dallas' D).

Take out the NE game, and their points allowed actually aren't that far apart. Also Dallas has given up fewer yards than GB surprisingly enough.

 

[trader jake]

Indy still 2nd best?

Yes. The Steelers and Cowboys are solid teams as well but the Colts are the only team I think can give the Patriots a fight.

 

[Godsbrother]

Indy still 2nd best?

When healthy probably. But right now they aren't.