Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Who is it going forward? Hillis? Do they bring back Travis Henry? What about that Denver running game? Anyone going to fool with it at all?
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duece2626
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Jeff Legwold and Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, report Denver Broncos RB Selvin Young (groin) will be doubtful for the team's Week 11 game. Young left the game Week 10 using crutches after suffering a groin injury.
Trap Play
Footballguy
Gah! Thanks.
Utter Chaos
Footballguy
Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?Mike Anderson?How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?Damian Nash?Cecil Sapp?Quentin Griffin?Ron Dayne?
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myhousekey
Footballguy
What do we know about Corey Boyd? (recently signed to the practice squad)
Edit: I've heard a lot of good things about the kid as far as his play at South Carolina. I think he was suspended at one point though; not sure why.
Edit: I've heard a lot of good things about the kid as far as his play at South Carolina. I think he was suspended at one point though; not sure why.
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duece2626
Footballguy
Ditka is God
Footballguy
Cory is a tough runner, decent hands, and might be in a perfect situation for him. He had a very tough upbringing, which carried into college, but he got himself straightened out. A quick search turned up this summary:Sobo's Players #9: RB Cory BoydCory Boyd By Brent SobleskiOBR Draft AnalystPosted Apr 13, 2008 A mid-to-late round running back from South Carolina. Can he make it in the NFL? Here's Sobo's take, along with NFL scout Tom Marino and Scout.com draft analyst Chris Steuber.Cory Boyd RB South CarolinaSobo Sez: The Gamecock running back quietly went about his business amassing a solid senior campaign throughout an up and down South Carolina season in 2007. Totaled 952 yards rushing with 5.0 yards per carry average and 9 touchdowns while relinquishing some repetitions in a running back rotation. Boyd’s best effort came against one of South Carolina’s top rivals, the Tennessee Volunteers, rushing for a season best of 160 yards.Boyd is a hardnosed runner with some questions about top end speed. Displays a nice burst into the hole initially and does make decisive cuts. Never quite had that breakout run this past season with a season long of only 29 yards. At the Combine he did surprise NFL personnel by posting a best of 4.46 in his forty yard dash.A bit of an upright runner at 6 feet 1 inch tall and 213 pounds, Boyd also has soft hands out of the backfield. As a junior he led all SEC running backs in catches, adding 36 more receptions this past season. Steve Spurrier is not known as having an NFL ready system. The proof is in the pudding, but he does ask his teams to pass early and often. So while Boyd was churning out the yards meticulously down the field, he had to understand all the basic concepts of the passing game as both a receiver and blocker. The “Ole Ball Coach” was even more influential in Boyd’s personal life. Considering transfer and acting up in his collegiate career, Spurrier suspended the back shortly after the coach’s arrival and challenged the young player to step up as both a person and potential leader of the football team. Boyd responded well, becoming the starter the following season and became the prime weapon in the offense. Overall, Boyd flashes the talent to potentially become a starter in the NFL, but right now is only a situational back worth a mid to late round selection. Tom Marino, NFL Scout: Has good vision and feel running inside the tackles. Was patient, read blocks well and finished his runs. Doesn't have top speed/explosion, wasn't an elusive nor was he a tackle breaker. Lacks the speed to consistently get the corner. Did catch the ball well on screens arrow and swing routes.Just a good college back but didn't do anything to set him apart from the rest of the pack. Back-up special team type player. Draft consideration; round 6 - 7.Chris Steuber, Scout.com Draft Analyst: Boyd is a big runner who runs tough between the tackles and shows good quickness on the edge. He performed well during East-West Shrine practices, but wasn’t consistent catching the ball. He’s not a shifty runner, but breaks tackles and is tough to bring down. Boyd has some character concerns and will have to address those issues during interviews at the Combine.
Steel Town
Footballguy
Can we really put much stock into this opinion...I mean today is Friday and the next game for the Broncos is over a week from now. I think it is too premature to write Young off for the job. I also feel he would be leaned on more than Hillis, but that is purely based on my opinion.
Trap Play
Footballguy
grouse
Footballguy
Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?Mike Anderson?How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?Cedric Cobbs?Damian Nash?Cecil Sapp?Quentin Griffin?Ron Dayne?
Seriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?
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MCguidance
Footballguy
Cecil has said that he feels like Hillis is going to get the first shot, especially with Young hobbled. I think he worthy of a WW grab now, despite not looking great last night. Remember, 8 carries is not a good indicator, but in PPR leagues this guy could be worth of a flex spot or a tough-spot start.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
They should go out and sign Kenton Keith imo
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Seriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?
Champ Bailey had probably the biggest hand in Denver reaching the AFCC in 2005. He was a finalist for Defensive POY that year too. Meanwhile, Portis has been a solid back but only this year has he enjoyed success on the level he had while in Denver. I think the argument that Denver was fleeced in that deal is a myopic one that doesn't take into account how difficult it is to find an elite corner as opposed to how difficult it is to find a 1,000 yard rusher. Don't forget Denver also received a 2nd rounder in that deal.
grouse
Footballguy
Here is the list of 'starting' running backs in Denver from 2004-2008...Reuben Droughns:( Champ Bailey had probably the biggest hand in Denver reaching the AFCC in 2005. He was a finalist for Defensive POY that year too. Meanwhile, Portis has been a solid back but only this year has he enjoyed success on the level he had while in Denver. I think the argument that Denver was fleeced in that deal is a myopic one that doesn't take into account how difficult it is to find an elite corner as opposed to how difficult it is to find a 1,000 yard rusher. Don't forget Denver also received a 2nd rounder in that deal.Seriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?
Quentin Griffin
Mike Anderson
Tatum Bell
Mike Bell
Cecil Sapp
Travis Henry
Selvin Young
Andre Hall
Michael Pittman
Ryan Torain
* Add - Peyton Hillis
That's 12 (twelve) starting running backs in 4.5 seasons. And this list doesn't include Garrison Hearst, Ron Dayne, Damien Nash etc. that got carries but no actual 'starts'. It's been sex without love in the Broncos running game ever since Portis left. You can justify it any way you like, but the Broncos 'soul' was in their downhill running game and Shanahan sold it out.
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
Don't worry, Maurice Clarett's prison term ends next year.
No. 16
Footballguy
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Are you looking at this from a fantasy (where you have 1 player) or as a team (where you have a rushing team)? Much different stories and although no one RB seemed to be as good for DEN as Portis, as a club and sometimes with RBBC, the team didn't have that big of a dropoff at RB. Also keep in mind that injuries have seriously held back what could have been even better. Mike Bell and Tatum Bell issues. This year is a complete flop with Pittman/Hall to IR, Torain (probably would have been starter from week 1) broken elbow and now torn ACL, and Young with various injuries including groin inj. now. Also keep in mind that their O-Line has suffered injuries recently as well that they didn't have in Portis era.Here is the list of 'starting' running backs in Denver from 2004-2008...Reuben DroughnsSeriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?
Quentin Griffin
Mike Anderson
Tatum Bell
Mike Bell
Cecil Sapp
Travis Henry
Selvin Young
Andre Hall
Michael Pittman
Ryan Torain
* Add - Peyton Hillis
That's 12 (twelve) starting running backs in 4.5 seasons. And this list doesn't include Garrison Hearst, Ron Dayne, Damien Nash etc. that got carries but no actual 'starts'. It's been sex without love in the Broncos running game ever since Portis left. You can justify it any way you like, but the Broncos 'soul' was in their downhill running game and Shanahan sold it out.
Shanny couldn't predict injuries. Other than those, I think he and the Broncos did exceptionally well filling in their RBs. Look at the rushing attack as a team, not as a player (which is what counts in the NFL) and I think Shanny and the Broncos made a great move.
thatguy
Footballguy
Pretty sure he's in jail, or will be soon... He got caught with something like 2 Kilos of blow over the summer. Without football, I guess he had to find other means by which to provide for his 9 children.
War Eagle
Footballguy
Here is the list of 'starting' running backs in Denver from 2004-2008...Reuben DroughnsSeriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?
Quentin Griffin
Mike Anderson
Tatum Bell
Mike Bell
Cecil Sapp
Travis Henry
Selvin Young
Andre Hall
Michael Pittman
Ryan Torain
* Add - Peyton Hillis
That's 12 (twelve) starting running backs in 4.5 seasons. And this list doesn't include Garrison Hearst, Ron Dayne, Damien Nash etc. that got carries but no actual 'starts'. It's been sex without love in the Broncos running game ever since Portis left. You can justify it any way you like, but the Broncos 'soul' was in their downhill running game and Shanahan sold it out.
thatguy
Footballguy
I agree that Champ played a huge role in Denver's success that season. But a shutdown corner is not very valuable if the players surrounding him are awful - particularly if his defense is unable to generate any sort of a pass rush. So, in a season like this one, I think a player like Portis would be far more valuable to Denver than Champ. Denver's defense has been awful all year, with or without Champ, and will continue to be awful until they can stop the run and get pressure on the QB. These are things that Champ has no control over, but they have a large effect on how big of an impact he can really make.Seriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?
Marcell Shipp has been playing basketball with us a few days a week, says he's available, worked out for Pittsburgh I think earlier this season. I told him this morning that if the phone rings and it's Denver ... DON"T ANSWER. It used to be Shannahan made running backs ... but now it's all injuries. Good Grief.
.Tanner9919
Footballguy
haven't you proven the point about Portis,then?Portis ,IN DENVER, was a BEAST...Two seasons of 1500+ yards, 15 TDs/yr..what would he have been like, had he stayed in Denver?? as good as,if not better than Tomlinson .....Seriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?Champ Bailey had probably the biggest hand in Denver reaching the AFCC in 2005. He was a finalist for Defensive POY that year too. Meanwhile, Portis has been a solid back but only this year has he enjoyed success on the level he had while in Denver. I think the argument that Denver was fleeced in that deal is a myopic one that doesn't take into account how difficult it is to find an elite corner as opposed to how difficult it is to find a 1,000 yard rusher. Don't forget Denver also received a 2nd rounder in that deal.
so the question is,would you have traded Tomlinson for Champ Bailey?!?!
hell no!
Portis *might* have been the first guy in NFL history to run for 2k yards twice in a career...maybe even MORE than twice..
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Maybe. At the same time, Denver was a competitive team that was getting blown out of the water every year by Indy due in large part to a bad defensive backfield. While Portis was in Denver, they were a good team that couldn't win a playoff game. They got Champ and he helped elevate the team defensively and the running game was still decent. Sure, there was a bit of a dropoff from Portis to Bell/Anderson but the running game was still the staple and was still at a healthy YPC. I think some people are looking at this from a fantasy standpoint. Denver has been able to get production from its RBBC and has had Champ to boot.Tanner9919 said:haven't you proven the point about Portis,then?Portis ,IN DENVER, was a BEAST...Two seasons of 1500+ yards, 15 TDs/yr..what would he have been like, had he stayed in Denver?? as good as,if not better than Tomlinson .....Buffaloes said:eddie077 said:Seriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.grouse said:Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?
so the question is,would you have traded Tomlinson for Champ Bailey?!?!
hell no!
Portis *might* have been the first guy in NFL history to run for 2k yards twice in a career...maybe even MORE than twice..
The NFL is not the same thing as fantasy football. Denver fleeced the Skins on that deal, and everyone that knows football agrees.Tanner9919 said:haven't you proven the point about Portis,then?Portis ,IN DENVER, was a BEAST...Two seasons of 1500+ yards, 15 TDs/yr..what would he have been like, had he stayed in Denver?? as good as,if not better than Tomlinson .....Buffaloes said:eddie077 said:Seriously? Look at Denver's D now with Bailey out a few games. I don't know how you can fault that decision. Portis is a top 10 back in the NFL Granted, but Champ is far and away the best CB in the NFL. I do that trade every time. Champ shuts down half the field in the passing game and is excellent in run support especially for a CB. He affects every team that has to come in and play them and game plan around him. Calling this Shanahan's "darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it." is completely wrong, just wrong period.Shanahan may be full of himself at times but that trade was a good move for that team, Today and every Sunday.grouse said:Just as an aside - here's a rant for you; How many starting RBs has Denver fielded since they shipped Clinton Portis off to Washington for Champ Failey? Seriously. Mike Shanahan is a good coach, maybe even a great one. He's one of the few 'franchise' coaches in the NFL and Pat Bowlen would be wise to keep Shanny installed for as long as he wants to be there ie, the Broncos couldn't replace Shanahan with anyone that would bring better skills, knowledge and pedigree to run the Broncos. Maybe Bill Cowher, but I'm not convinced of that by any means. Having said all of this, Shanahan's ego and belief in his own legend has cost him big-time here. Shanahan genuinely believed that the organization and his system/coaching was more responsible for the success at the RB position than the player's own unique talents. Prima Donna Portis = Expendable, Potential Shut Down Corner = Not Expendable. This evaluation / decision was Mike Shanahan's darkest and lowest career landmark to date and quite possibly nothing he does going forward will ever come close to it.Olandis Gary?Ruben Droughns?
Mike Anderson?
How long is this Denver RB list anyway....?
Cedric Cobbs?
Damian Nash?
Cecil Sapp?
Quentin Griffin?
Ron Dayne?
so the question is,would you have traded Tomlinson for Champ Bailey?!?!
hell no!
Portis *might* have been the first guy in NFL history to run for 2k yards twice in a career...maybe even MORE than twice..
Norman Einstein
Footballguy
no idea about the salary cap/structures or its even possible, but what about getting a guy like Edge
millertyme1
Footballguy
Bring back the Bells.
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
Heard Marshall Faulk is unemployed.
Klimtology
Footballguy
millertyme1
Footballguy
How about Kevan Barlow? Mad Mike called him the best RB from his class.
hauser42
Footballguy
You are right that he will be everyone's #1 WW guy this week. I will be going for Pope since I'm at the bottom of my WW and not sure that Hillis will be the man. Who ever I get is replacing Torian on the roster.
Lash
Footballguy
okay, i'm pretty sure neither Portis nor Champ will be starting RB for Denver this week so can those arguments go to the other 23 threads on the Portis/Champ subject the last 4 years and keep this thread on the current RB for Denver for those of us addicted to the drug called the 'DEN RBs'?
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