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Interesting Commissioner Dilemma (1 Viewer)

spodog

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Disclaimer: I am an owner in this league, not the commish, and am not the owner of either of the two teams referenced.

I'm in a 12 team redraft league that uses a stone-age method for documenting draft picks on draft day. They are written on paper, then transcribed and keyed into the league software.

The draft was held back in NFL preseason Week #3. All teams had their draft picks keyed into the league software within a day of the draft and were asked to validate that their rosters were loaded correctly. No comments came in from any owners, and league waiver wire and free agency transactions began a few days later.

TODAY, the commish gets a text message from TEAM A indicating that they had drafted the Baltimore Ravens DEF in Round 13 of the draft, and the RAVENS don't appear on their roster. After reviewing the rosters, the original draft records and transactions from the draft, the following appear to be true:

- TEAM A did indeed draft the RAVENS in Round 13

- The Ravens were never loaded onto TEAM A's roster when the initial data entry for the draft occurred

- A few days after the draft, TEAM B obtained the RAVENS through normal free agency acquisition

- Over 2 weeks have passed since draft day without this error having been pointed out by TEAM A (or caught by anyone else)

- The Ravens Week 1 game is tonight, of course. At present, they are on TEAM B's bench, not in their stating lineup

Don't really need commentary on the leauge should have chosen to use draft software and all that, just looking for recommendations on what the commissioner should do now that this situation has presented itself.

 
Well who did Team A start at defense? If it's a backup defense, who cares? The Ravens D will be dropped in most leagues within the next couple weeks when people realize that they're yet another year older and Suggs-less.

 
Mistakes happen. I think you have to give it back to the guy that drafted the DEF, and allow Team B to get back whatever player he dropped.

 
Normally, I would side with Team A and give him the Ravens D/ST.

However, Team A should have come forward BEFORE Sunday's games (in order to provide everyone an opportunity to set their lineups).

Therefore, I would just tell Team A that he's SOL and that he should have spoken up sooner.

 
'Joe Summer said:
However, Team A should have come forward BEFORE Sunday's games (in order to provide everyone an opportunity to set their lineups).Therefore, I would just tell Team A that he's SOL and that he should have spoken up sooner.
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Hellz yes. Agree 1,000%
 
Not to get off topic, but how is maintaining the chart of picks, to load it into the league site later, stone age? How else do people have offline drafts? Do many leagues directly import from a spreadsheet?

 
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'RUSF18 said:
Not to get off topic, but how is maintaining the chart of picks, to load it into the league site later, stone age? How else do people have online drafts? Do many leagues directly import from a spreadsheet?
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Online draft you don't have to enter any picks manually onto rosters.
 
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I would put the Ravens back on Team A's roster, and just ask B to pick up a new defense this week. Since he had them on the bench, it shouldn't be a big deal, unless he chooses to make it one.

The commish deserves some blame here too. There have been times as the commish in Yahoo leagues, where we draft offline and I need to load rosters, where I've asked people to verify. But any mistakes that have ever been made could be of the Steve Smith/Steve Smith variety, or maybe swapping people's kickers late. But I can't imagine not realizing a team is short a player. Depending on how you choose to enter results, you'll either end up entering a team's last pick with a round still to go, or you'll skip over a pick which would then cause a bunch of other resulting errors.

 
Incredible that you draft week 3 of the preseason and an owner doesn't realize he is D-less until prior to MNF week 1.

That said, Team A drafted the Ravens, so he should get them, esp. since Team B was not starting them

 
'doeseatplace said:
Incredible that you draft week 3 of the preseason and an owner doesn't realize he is D-less until prior to MNF week 1.That said, Team A drafted the Ravens, so he should get them, esp. since Team B was not starting them
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I don't see how whether or not Team B started or benched the Ravens should have any impact on the commish's decision. Ideally it would be the same call in either scenario.
 
'meyerj31 said:
Mistakes happen. I think you have to give it back to the guy that drafted the DEF, and allow Team B to get back whatever player he dropped.
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What if Team B's waiver acquisition impacted other waiver claims? Would you rerun any others? What if Team B dropped a guy and had 2 claims in, one if the Ravens were available (executed), and one to pick up, say, Ogletree if the Ravens were not (denied). Team B was then out a rightful claim due to A's incompetence.
 
'SayWhat? said:
Well who did Team A start at defense?
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This.The simple (and probably correct) solution is to just give the Ravens back to Team A, but I feel like we're missing something important here. How did he not notice until today that he didn't have the defense he thought he drafted? He presumably set his lineup yesterday - he should have noticed it then, if not sooner. Did he submit an illegal lineup with no defense in it? Did he start a different defense that played yesterday? Unless he also has one of the other defenses that are playing tonight, it seems it's too late for him to be bringing this up now.
 
'Sarnoff said:
'doeseatplace said:
Incredible that you draft week 3 of the preseason and an owner doesn't realize he is D-less until prior to MNF week 1.That said, Team A drafted the Ravens, so he should get them, esp. since Team B was not starting them
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I don't see how whether or not Team B started or benched the Ravens should have any impact on the commish's decision. Ideally it would be the same call in either scenario.
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I agree this fact should not be a factor in the deciding what is the right thing to do. That said, it does make it easier managing league relations if you don't have to go to Team B and take points away from him. This Commish apparently needs all the good will he can get
 
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