barackdhouse
Footballguy
ok so it *IS* 3RR
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#SFB15 - Scott Fish Bowl 15 (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Lehigh98
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Highly encourage anyone here playing in SFB next year to attend a live event. They are a lot of fun. I just did the Vegas Live and Chicago Live in back to back weekends. Very different vibes each of them, but so much fun!
nittanylion
Footballguy
Yep. Washington Sentinels. Drafting out of the 7th position, which is my preferred slot in 3RR drafts. IMHO, the closer to the middle, the less impact 3RR has, and there's something appealing to me about the 1.07, 2.06, 3.06 run, 7,18,30 (probably a mind trick I'm playing on myself).
Good luck to all, and looking forward to further discussion!
My draft is scheduled tomorrow but the league is barely half filled so not sure if it will go off. First year in this so maybe this is normal and they fill super fast at the end?
Anyway I chose 1.01 when I did not know it was 3RRR.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
I am in 6th tomorrow.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
They said on the podcast the other night that there were only 2 spots left. I know on the Monday it starts there are always no shows and they have used twitter in the past to quickly fill openings. I bet a lot of that happens tomorrow.
I just checked and my sleeper league only has 11 and the draft order isn't set. They are probably waiting for the 12th to sign in.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Going from the 10 spot manana
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
If you're looking to get in SFB15 here is one opportunity
Lehigh98
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Almost all RBs in the 1st round so far. I took Chase at 1.10
Pin this please
ZWK
Footballguy
Thanks, this looks like the best source for ADP data with ongoing updates.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
nittanylion
Footballguy
1st Round of my Draft opened up as follows: Chase, Nabors(!), Allen, Bijan, Lamar, Jeanty...
I pondered 5 (Daniels, Barkley, Gibbs, Jefferson, Nabors), narrowed it down to 2 (Daniels, Gibbs)...and chose Daniels at 1.07.
Gibbs, Bowers, Barkley, McBride...waiting on the 1/2 turn.
I pondered 5 (Daniels, Barkley, Gibbs, Jefferson, Nabors), narrowed it down to 2 (Daniels, Gibbs)...and chose Daniels at 1.07.
Gibbs, Bowers, Barkley, McBride...waiting on the 1/2 turn.
OldMilwaukee
IBL Representative
Yes you are
Dez
Footballguy
I wonder how many people will make the mistake of drafting a 3rd QB too high (in the top 11 rounds since those are all starters) and a 3rd QB would not be a starter.
I was listening to XM on the way to work and the guys on Rotoballer were talking like this was a normal SF and saying "you know we always like to get that 3rd QB early"
Hopefully they make that mistake it be enjoyable since they always act like know-it-alls.
I was listening to XM on the way to work and the guys on Rotoballer were talking like this was a normal SF and saying "you know we always like to get that 3rd QB early"
Hopefully they make that mistake it be enjoyable since they always act like know-it-alls.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yep, it's best player for me with these starting lineups with guys in the same tier leaning towards my guys I just like. If I get one or two great if I don't that's fine too.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
1.10 Chase
2.03 Daniels
3.03 Hampton
probably my only QB
2.03 Daniels
3.03 Hampton
probably my only QB
My draft ended yesterday. Long Long Long slow draft. Jeanty Henry from the 1.09 in the first two rounds was nice. Here is the whole squad!
Ashton Jeanty
Derrick Henry
DJ Moore
Kenneth Walker
Quinshon Judkins
Rome Odunze
Xavier Worthy
Darnell Mooney
Rachaad White
Joe Burrow
Trevor Lawrence
__________________
Michael Penix
Tyler Lockett
Rashod Bateman
Bo Melton (is he going to play defense?!?!?)
Hunter Henry
Pat Freiermuth
Juwan Johnson
Taj Brooks
Samaje Perine
Sean Tucker
Michael Wilson
Ashton Jeanty
Derrick Henry
DJ Moore
Kenneth Walker
Quinshon Judkins
Rome Odunze
Xavier Worthy
Darnell Mooney
Rachaad White
Joe Burrow
Trevor Lawrence
__________________
Michael Penix
Tyler Lockett
Rashod Bateman
Bo Melton (is he going to play defense?!?!?)
Hunter Henry
Pat Freiermuth
Juwan Johnson
Taj Brooks
Samaje Perine
Sean Tucker
Michael Wilson
nittanylion
Footballguy
I was one pick away from having the opportunity to open QB/QB...pairing my 1.07 Jayden Daniels with Jalen Hurts at 2.06, who went at 2.05 (I think it's a little early to say "preventive pick?", but maybe...) . I would have been sorely tempted to pull the trigger on that, given this scoring system, and that I had Hurts in the mix at 1.07. As weird and distasteful as it was, taking a QB in the 1st Rd, taking another in the 2nd would have been...well...really something...but as I've learned, over the last 4 years, that's SFB for you!
Lamb/Jefferson at the 1/2 turn.
Rd2: Jefferson, McCaffrey, Achane, Henry, Hurts...
Very short list for me here: AR-St.B or Josh Jacobs. Went with Jacobs (also sort of a positional scarcity thing/tier break thing with 7RB and only 4 WR already off the board). I have an unhealthy obsession with him for 2025. Of course, as with Gibbs in Rd 1, St. Brown went with the next pick.
...St. Brown, Kamara, Taylor, Irving Burrow, London
So, we'll see if I've made the day for the guys drafting at 8 and 6, seeing as how I handed them Gibbs and St. Brown, respectively. Don't think I would have gone 'LionStack' but the opportunity certainly was there for me to open with Gibbs/St. Brown, and see where the chips fell moving forward.
3rdRR, here we come!
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Not even two rounds in and we have had some pretty big ADP departures in my league. Kamura went 2.2
DaddyFatSacks
Footballguy
I just took Gibbs at the 1.05 (could have had Lamar, Allen, Daniels). My thought process...Gibbs has top scorer upside and Lamar had an elite season last year and still finished 4th. Rest of Qbs outside the top 12. I do like the comfort of the floor of a Lamar, Allen, Daniels but had to go for the upside.
jm192
Footballguy
I took Bowers at the 1.06.
I had Gibbs, Jefferson, Josh Allen, Jayden Daniels all still available.
I don't think there's a wrong answer. I think the QB's match up a lot better to the rest of the field starting in rounds 2/3. As others have pointed out: Only Lamar finished as a top 12 player last year with this scoring.
I labored over Bowers and Gibbs. Gibbs had 40 points on Bowers last year. He had 20 TD's. Bowers had 5. If they repeat everything else, it's 3 TD's in each direction for Bowers to outscore Gibbs (17 for Gibbs and 8 for Bowers). I'd rather bank on Bowers getting 8 TD's than Gibbs gettin 17+.
I also think it's possible (not necessarily saying it will happen) that his touches go back down a bit with Montgomery healthy.
Lastly, Bowers did so much with an awful QB situation and terrible RB's last year. Adding Geno and Jeanty should only improve the offense. They should be able to sustain more drives and score more points/TD's.
I'm LITERALLY splitting hairs. If this wasn't SFB with it's wild scoring, Gibbs wins out easily. Gibbs is STILL my RB2. I have a ton of him in best ball and expect to have plenty of him in re-draft. I honestly don't have that much Bowers in best ball so far. Just works well in this unique format.
I had Gibbs, Jefferson, Josh Allen, Jayden Daniels all still available.
I don't think there's a wrong answer. I think the QB's match up a lot better to the rest of the field starting in rounds 2/3. As others have pointed out: Only Lamar finished as a top 12 player last year with this scoring.
I labored over Bowers and Gibbs. Gibbs had 40 points on Bowers last year. He had 20 TD's. Bowers had 5. If they repeat everything else, it's 3 TD's in each direction for Bowers to outscore Gibbs (17 for Gibbs and 8 for Bowers). I'd rather bank on Bowers getting 8 TD's than Gibbs gettin 17+.
I also think it's possible (not necessarily saying it will happen) that his touches go back down a bit with Montgomery healthy.
Lastly, Bowers did so much with an awful QB situation and terrible RB's last year. Adding Geno and Jeanty should only improve the offense. They should be able to sustain more drives and score more points/TD's.
I'm LITERALLY splitting hairs. If this wasn't SFB with it's wild scoring, Gibbs wins out easily. Gibbs is STILL my RB2. I have a ton of him in best ball and expect to have plenty of him in re-draft. I honestly don't have that much Bowers in best ball so far. Just works well in this unique format.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Good post. There aren't wrong answers yet with this format and scoring.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Very pleased to land Brian Thomas at 3.06. No other considerations.
Chase Brown went at 3.05, which might have given me pause.
Chase Brown went at 3.05, which might have given me pause.
DaddyFatSacks
Footballguy
Great look into your decision process. I like the Bowers pick. Could easily be #1 overall with a very high floor.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
We're into the 4th round:
CMC
Bijan
Barkley
Allen
Jeanty
Henry
Bowers
McBride
Gibbs
Chase (me)
Lamar
Achane
Jefferson
Bucky
Daniels (me)
Lamb
Hurts
Nabers
Jacobs
Nacua
Amon-Ra
Burrow
Nico
Kyren
B Thomas
Taylor
Hampton(me)
Mahomes
C Brown
Hall
London
McConkey
AJ Brown
JSN
Nix
Kamara
Higgins
4.02 OTC
CMC
Bijan
Barkley
Allen
Jeanty
Henry
Bowers
McBride
Gibbs
Chase (me)
Lamar
Achane
Jefferson
Bucky
Daniels (me)
Lamb
Hurts
Nabers
Jacobs
Nacua
Amon-Ra
Burrow
Nico
Kyren
B Thomas
Taylor
Hampton(me)
Mahomes
C Brown
Hall
London
McConkey
AJ Brown
JSN
Nix
Kamara
Higgins
4.02 OTC
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Got 1.04 which I feel like is a pretty rough spot. I missed Saquon and Bijan who I think are far and away the top 2 players. I wanted to take the little risk and grab Jeanty or CMC but my buddy who is drafting with me wouldn't go for it so we went with the homer Gibbs pick. I just don't see him being much better than the next 10 or so guys who go. And it looks like there is going to be a big tier drop off before my next pick and then I get hit with the reversal.
jm192
Footballguy
My division is in a prolonged freeze haha.
The 11 spot timed out last night and got replaced at 7 AM. To his credit, the replacement picked immediately.
Now the 12th spot also appears to be MIA. We're nearly 6 hours into a freeze there. I suspect that owner will be replaced as well.
The 11 spot timed out last night and got replaced at 7 AM. To his credit, the replacement picked immediately.
Now the 12th spot also appears to be MIA. We're nearly 6 hours into a freeze there. I suspect that owner will be replaced as well.
nittanylion
Footballguy
We have an ***-dragger in our Draft, as well, #2 overall...over 4 hours to make his 1st Rd pick, in spite of the requested 1st Round etiquette awareness, following up a predrafted 1.01. To his credit, he did great with his 2nd rounder late last night, about 15 minutes (with the timer off, of course), and pre-drafting his 3.11...but, dude, you're right there at the turn...and here we are now, going on 4 hours, again.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
We're rolling pretty good considering there are three owners overseas (in different directions) even though it's the Portland Timbers division. There was one guy last night that cracked me up because when he was OTC and got tagged he responded with an uploaded picture of the dinner he was apparently in the middle of cooking and took the time to type up how he will look at this later tonight.
Well shoot that's fine you're busy I get it. But like you could have made a pick in less time it took to do all that. He hadn't done any research more than likely and really did need some time to sit down and think about who to take. Again, fine. Just think it's funny because like c'mon just click the button for one of those tops guys and finish your dinner. Or don't respond at all.
It did look tasty though.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I started Achane, Jefferson and Thomas and pretty happy with that. I figured Travis Hunter would be gone but if he makes it to my next set of picks on the turn he will be hard to pass up even though I would prefer not having teammates at WR.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Travis Hunter actually made it back to me at 4.07 (#43 ovr), well below his SFB ADP of #30 ovr, so I had the opportunity to pair Thomas/Hunter. I passed.
In the 12 picks that followed my 3.06 Brian Thomas, we had an RB run (7RB/3WR/2TE) . So 5QB / 21RB / 12WR / 4TE is where the spread stood at 4.07. No value in taking a RB here, Kittle went at 4.04, which was my only early TE target, there was an overabundance of value at WR, so I decided to see if I could make a 'fun' pick, and have some influence on the Board, and possibly push some WR value back my way for 5.06.
Two 2-way QB were still available, and only of the 5 Teams drafting behind me had a QB, so it felt like it might be the time. I was still mulling the 'what if' had Hurts fallen 1 more pick back to me in the 2nd Round, and the possibilities that might have generated from a Daniels/Hurts start. While I'm intrigued by Fields, I've owned enough Murray over the years, and that can be a chore. Definitely not 'fun'. So, Fields I went.
It sorta worked, only 3 QB's went in the next 10 picks (Mahomes at 4.11 and Caleb(!)/Maye(!) at 4.12/5.1 turn...but the other 7 picks weren't anyone I was holding my breath on (McConkey, Hunter, Judkins, Henderson, Swift, Rice and Adams), and took the Hunter and Rice decisions off my plate.
It's not Best-Ball, so stacking isn't something I'm prioritizing, but among other WR I didn't expect to be sitting there was Garrett Wilson. Feels like a WR run coming, so swooped him up as WR17(!), and will see if something tasty works it's way back to me.
Through 5: Jayden Daniels, Justin Fields, Josh Jacobs, Brian Thomas, Garrett Wilson.
DaddyFatSacks
Footballguy
I'm on this exact thought process / track through four rounds. Thinking RB heavy from here on out with pivot for exceptional value.
Gibbs
Henry
JSN
Mayfield
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I did not get
Travis Hunter
actually made it back to me at 4.07 (#43 ovr), well below his SFB ADP of #30 ovr, so I had the opportunity to pair
Thomas
/
Hunter
. I passed.
In the 12 picks that followed my 3.06
Brian Thomas
, we had an RB run (7RB/3WR/2TE) . So 5QB / 21RB / 12WR / 4TE is where the spread stood at 4.07. No value in taking a RB here,
Kittle
went at 4.04, which was my only early TE target, there was an overabundance of value at WR, so I decided to see if I could make a 'fun' pick, and have some influence on the Board, and possibly push some WR value back my way for 5.06.
Two 2-way QB were still available, and only of the 5 Teams drafting behind me had a QB, so it felt like it might be the time. I was still mulling the 'what if' had
Hurts
fallen 1 more pick back to me in the 2nd Round, and the possibilities that might have generated from a
Daniels
/
Hurts
start. While I'm intrigued by
Fields
, I've owned enough
Murray
over the years, and that can be a chore. Definitely not 'fun'. So,
Fields
I went.
It sorta worked, only 3 QB's went in the next 10 picks (
Mahomes
at 4.11 and Caleb(!)/
Maye
(!) at 4.12/5.1 turn...but the other 7 picks weren't anyone I was holding my breath on (
McConkey
,
Hunter
,
Judkins
,
Henderson
,
Swift
,
Rice
and
Adams
), and took the
Hunter
and
Rice
decisions off my plate.
It's not Best-Ball, so stacking isn't something I'm prioritizing, but among other WR I didn't expect to be sitting there was
Garrett Wilson
. Feels like a WR run coming, so swooped him up as WR17(!), and will see if something tasty works it's way back to me.
Through 5:
Jayden Daniels
,
Justin Fields
,
Josh Jacobs
,
Brian Thomas
,
Garrett Wilson
.
Travis Hunter
in my league. My first 5 are Devon Achane, Justin Jefferson, Brian Thomas Jr, Tee Higgins, and Tyreek Hill. I did not plan to go WR heavy here but think I have four of the top 12-14 and like this so far. I'm still 10 picks away from my next selection, which will be a non-elite QB, non-elite TE, or keep pounding top 20 WR. The RB have been destroyed in my league and I don't want to reach for an Aaron Jones type.
Dez
Footballguy
I seen Hunter go 1.05 in a draft.
Went 2.03, 2.10 and 3.02 in 3 live drafts a few weeks ago.
bro1ncos
IBL Representative
Has continued for me. Have added DeAndre Swift, Courtland Sutton, and JK Dobbins in the 3 rounds since.
Seems like a couple of my draftmates are going all in at WR. Then there are a few that look like they are drafting a traditional QB/ 2 RB / 3 WR / TE team.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
7 picks in and nothing too sexy here. Started off well with Jeanty "falling" to me at 1.09 but after that everyone's been pretty much following ADP and no big values which I think is what you need to have a shot at going very far. I've just been picking off whoever I think would score the most points with each pick and leaning towards non-QB's if it's close to have more flexibility later. Really the only constraint is you can start a max of 2 QB's so I think there's no reason to have more than 2 at the end of the draft (at the sake of other players you could actually start). I may take some shots at QB's later that are values or off the radar but have a chance at winning a job and producing.
Draft so far:
1.09 - Jeanty, Ashton LVR RB (R)
2.04 - Lamb, CeeDee DAL WR
3.04 - London, Drake ATL WR (Travis Hunter went 3.09)
4.09 - Conner, James ARI RB
5.04 - Adams, Davante LAR WR
6.09 - Sutton, Courtland DEN WR
7.04 - Metcalf, DK PIT WR
Draft so far:
1.09 - Jeanty, Ashton LVR RB (R)
2.04 - Lamb, CeeDee DAL WR
3.04 - London, Drake ATL WR (Travis Hunter went 3.09)
4.09 - Conner, James ARI RB
5.04 - Adams, Davante LAR WR
6.09 - Sutton, Courtland DEN WR
7.04 - Metcalf, DK PIT WR
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree with your strategy. I liked the value on Bo Nix but won’t touch a QB again for awhile
Gibbs
Amon Ra
AJ Brown
Nix
Tee Higgins
Sutton
Only thing I’ve noticed is people seem to be aggressive with RBs. I get that early with tbt studs but I think guys like Aaron Jones, Judkins, Chuba, etc went too early.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Same experience for me with the RB. I'm through 7 with Purdy, Achane, Jefferson, Brian Thomas, Higgins, Tyreek, and Worthy. The QBs are all going now so will either keep hitting more WR or look at some of these middle tier TEs next.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Well, I did it again...just can't pass up the value of falling WR, and again, although I know it's not best ball, where stacks matter more, with Terry McLaurin sitting there at 6.7, what's a guy supposed to do?
Same thing, Round 7...with this 'Positionless Football' there just doesn't seem to be a player I'm crying about missing (yet) that goes between making a pick, and the next time I'm up. I think some folks either didn't read the rules, don't understand how starting lineups work in this thing, or are being willfully ignorant.
It's a tough mindset to get around, for sure, but indeed, as @Lehigh98 mentioned above, up to a certain point, it's literally almost all about who's going to score the most points from the available Players, every time...
7.06: Devonta Smith
Through 7: JDaniels/TMcLaurin, JFields/GWilson, J Jacobs, BThomas, DvSmith
Same thing, Round 7...with this 'Positionless Football' there just doesn't seem to be a player I'm crying about missing (yet) that goes between making a pick, and the next time I'm up. I think some folks either didn't read the rules, don't understand how starting lineups work in this thing, or are being willfully ignorant.
It's a tough mindset to get around, for sure, but indeed, as @Lehigh98 mentioned above, up to a certain point, it's literally almost all about who's going to score the most points from the available Players, every time...
7.06: Devonta Smith
Through 7: JDaniels/TMcLaurin, JFields/GWilson, J Jacobs, BThomas, DvSmith
