#SFB15 - Scott Fish Bowl 15 (2 Viewers)

[Ramblin Wreck]

Well, I did it again...just can't pass up the value of falling WR, and again, although I know it's not best ball, where stacks matter more, with Terry McLaurin sitting there at 6.7, what's a guy supposed to do?

Same thing, Round 7...with this 'Positionless Football' there just doesn't seem to be a player I'm crying about missing (yet) that goes between making a pick, and the next time I'm up. I think some folks either didn't read the rules, don't understand how starting lineups work in this thing, or are being willfully ignorant.

It's a tough mindset to get around, for sure, but indeed, as @Lehigh98 mentioned above, up to a certain point, it's literally almost all about who's going to score the most points from the available Players, every time...

7.06: Devonta Smith

Through 7: JDaniels/TMcLaurin, JFields/GWilson, J Jacobs, BThomas, DvSmith

I actually think stacks matter a lot in SFB because once you get in the final couple of weeks, you need big scores to have a chance to win. Those stacks hitting in those weeks would be huge. I like how you've built your team.

 

[menobrown]

Just starting round 4 of my league and I'm just hammering away at high volume players.

Bijan, J Taylor, Kamara and Garrett Wilson(who I think could/should be among top 5 target earners)

 

[OldMilwaukee]

Who is drafting on MFL....who's on Sleeper? Does it make a difference?

ETA: Maybe this should be a poll.... But i'm not savy enough.

 

[bro1ncos]

MFL for me

 

[menobrown]

Who is drafting on MFL....who's on Sleeper? Does it make a difference.

Sleeper here, would have preferred MFL but did not see it as an option in the drafts I could choose from.

As far as I know the MFL scoring is one point per target and one point per reception whereas on Sleeper it's just 2.5 points per reception.

 

[Lehigh98]

Who is drafting on MFL....who's on Sleeper? Does it make a difference?

ETA: Maybe this should be a poll.... But i'm not savy enough.

Picked MFL for convenience because my 2 dynasty leagues are already on there, I don't have any on Sleeper.

 

[Ilov80s]

Sleeper

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Sleeper. When I selected they had not split sleeper and MFL yet and I decided to stay where I was. I think the points per target stuff on MFL is interesting though.

 

[Ilov80s]

We have Amon Ra and Gibbs. My buddy who "co-owns" the team with me really wants Goff now. I prefer Olave. In this kind of format, do you want to lean into the Lions stack or lean away from it?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

We have Amon Ra and Gibbs. My buddy who "co-owns" the team with me really wants Goff now. I prefer Olave. In this kind of format, do you want to lean into the Lions stack or lean away from it?

Stacking can make the regular season tougher but will give an advantage in the playoffs, IMO. You need to score big in the playoffs.

I have Tua, Achane, and Hill as well as Purdy and Jennings. My problems is both of those stacks have bye weeks during the playoffs so I clearly didn't think that out very well. I will admit I didn't target the stacks and the players just fell to me this way for the most part.

 

[Ilov80s]

We have Amon Ra and Gibbs. My buddy who "co-owns" the team with me really wants Goff now. I prefer Olave. In this kind of format, do you want to lean into the Lions stack or lean away from it?

Stacking can make the regular season tougher but will give an advantage in the playoffs, IMO. You need to score big in the playoffs.

That makes sense. A Goff injury could be so bad it deeply hurts 3 players production. Every TD Gibbs scores is already a TD Amon-Ra can't. That could be a problem in the regular season.

In the playoffs, you just want to catch chunks of teams that go off. There were a lot of games last year that Goff, Gibbs and ARSB were all posting monster stats.

 

[barackdhouse]

Who is drafting on MFL....who's on Sleeper? Does it make a difference?

ETA: Maybe this should be a poll.... But i'm not savy enough.

I chose Sleeper because this year's theme was sports teams and I wanted to go with something local here in Portland or maybe just Oregon but the Ducks or Blazers or Winterhawks weren't available and I sure as **** wasn't going to go with the Beavers... so I chose the Timbers. As such was forced to do Sleeper. Wouldn't have cared either way and did SFB14 last year on MFL and the 2 prior on Sleeper. The scoring differences between the platforms is weird but what are you gonna do Scott knows it's weird.

I ran a gigantic dynasty league on MFL for many years and am accustomed to playing there so I don't find anything inconvenient about it but many players are intimidated by it's interface at first. But although Sleeper looks 1000 times better and is meant to be more user friendly I kind of hate it TBH. Their BB waivers are terrible IMO and much prefer MFL (which is also tedious AF but at least it works). I haven't had good experiences with Sleeper but for this I don't care.

 

[jm192]

Through 6:

1. Bowers
2. Puka
3. Breece
4. Cook
5. Nix
6. DJ Moore

The “right” answer round 6 was probably to take Sutton over Moore. Sutton’s ADP is 7.04, and I have Moore just ahead of Sutton. So I spun the wheel hoping to get Sutton next round. He went a few picks after Moore.

 

[Drunken Cowboy]

1.6 Saquon Barkley
2.7 Puka Nacua
3.7 Breece Hall
4.6 Travis Hunter
5.7 Justin Fields
6.6 Kaleb Johnson
7.7 Evan Engram

 

[bro1ncos]

Had our first owner draft his 3rd QB in round 11

 

[menobrown]

I'm just jealous seeing how far along the rest of the drafts people have referenced here have progressed. I'm still 4 picks in and pretty sure I won't get to pick 5 until tomorrow.

 

[nittanylion]

MFL for me. I've been using that platform since it came out, so it's much more familiar for me to navigate. Only League I've played on Sleeper was last years FBG Bowl, and I didn't like Sleeper one bit.

My League in Round 11, and since the last update, I've just kept taking WR's who I feel have target/reception upside in their NFL offenses.

I added Calvin Ridley and Jauan Jennings in Rds 9/10 respectively. Missed out on nothing between Ridley and Jennings, but had heavily considered taking Tucker Kraft with the Jennings pick, and gambled he'd fall back to me in Rd 11, which he did not.

I still have only 1RB and 0 (zero) TE. Weird, but OK by me.

I was watching the QB's peel off...in Round 9, we had our 1st Manager take his 3rd QB (Purdy as QB19). In Round 10, another Manager on that end of the Draft took his 3rd (Tua as QB22). At that point, 2 Owners on the other end of the Draft, past me, were the only ones without QB1. I passed on a still available Stroud, but would have probably taken him in Rd 11 had both those Managers passed on him through their 10/11 picks. At that point, I would have been the 3rd Manager to take a 3rd QB, and it would have been sort of 'punative'.

Well, one of them did take Stroud (10.09, as QB23), which didn't really matter to me. When it came back to me at 11.06 (126 ovr), and Kraft had been taken, I felt everyone else I was considering had a good chance to fall to 12.06, and the last QB I felt had viable upside (rushing ability and likely playing from behind a whole lot) in this Scoring System was still available (the end of a tier, as I saw it) - Cam Ward.

Kinda felt cringy, as with this 'Positionless Football' it doesn't feel like doing the 'right thing', using one of my 1st 11 picks on a reserve...but I don't feel I necessarily over-reached by doing so, as I wasn't the first, or even the second, to do it. He'll serve as a long-play stash and may come in handy if I make the Playoff Tournament, plus another stack (although a junior grade one, for sure) with Ridley.

Through 11: Daniels/Fields/Ward...JJacobs...BThomas/GWilson/McLaurin/DvSmith/JWilliams/Ridley/JJennings

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I am through 13 rounds. I like my team but don't love it. I have too many guys with byes in the SFB playoffs.

Purdy & Tua
Achane & Tuten
Jefferson, B. Thomas Jr, Higgins, Tyreek, Worthy, Jennings, Pearsall, K. Coleman
Loveland

 

[bro1ncos]

Through 11 rounds

QB - Fields and McCarthy
RB - Cook, Dobbins, Henry, Swift, J Taylor, J Warren, R White
WR - Kupp, Sutton

The makeup of this team makes it hard to get a real feeling, but feel like I got high volume guys at RB and WR. QB could be a complete swing and miss, 1 could hit, if both hit I like my chances. If this was Best Ball this would be a lot easier.

 

[barackdhouse]

Thru 9

Chase
Jayden Daniels
Hampton
Connor
Henderson
Caleb Williams
Jamo
Deebo
Loveland

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

I’m OTC right now…here is what I have through round 8

QB: Mayfield, Goff
RB: Gibbs, Henry, Montgomery, Swift, Pollard
WR: JSN

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

It’s getting brutal in round 14 getting sniped on bad players!

 

[Lehigh98]

I see a few people still breaking teams down by position and I think it shows how hard it is to get away from that thinking in these drafts. There is no reason to draft a RB or a TE at all, especially if there is any other position (except QB) that may outscore them. I mention QB because the only difference there is that the QB's are actually (relatively) less valuable in this format because they're the only position with less flexibility. Really the only other differentiator is when players' bye weeks fall.

I had a couple of spots in the 8th, 9th, 10th rounds where QB's were the highest scoring option of available players but I still passed on them because you can only start two. I think there will be several more rounds where best available (by scoring) is a QB and I don't want to handcuff myself for later. I did take Dak in the 8th because not only was he projected as the highest scorer, but it also gave me the stack with CeeDee.

My pick is coming back up at 10.09 and 11.04 and highest ADP values still on the board by far are Goff and Stroud but I'll probably pass again because I think my other potential stacks (Penix & Stafford) can be had later and we've got a big glut of starting QB's that will all score about the same anyway (Goff, Stroud, Penix, Ward, Stafford, Geno, Tua, Darnold, Rodgers, ARich, etc) still available and 7 teams already have 2 QB's and 5 others (including me) already have 1 QB. How many people will take a 3rd QB who will sit on the bench before filling out their starting lineups? I'm actually regretting taking Dak a bit because I think QB will be best value for several rounds that I won't be able to take full advantage of now.

 

[Lehigh98]

Who are people targeting in the later rounds that could be lottery tickets / good producers from injury replacement or beating someone out for a job?

Personally, I'm keeping an eye on Benson as insurance on Conner if he gets hurt / beat out. I don't have a lot of faith that it will happen but that's one specific to my roster at this point.

Who's worthy of sniping even if you don't have the starter?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Who are people targeting in the later rounds that could be lottery tickets / good producers from injury replacement or beating someone out for a job?

Personally, I'm keeping an eye on Benson as insurance on Conner if he gets hurt / beat out. I don't have a lot of faith that it will happen but that's one specific to my roster at this point.

Who's worthy of sniping even if you don't have the starter?

Mason, Guerendo, Charbonnet, Allgeier and Ray Davis. Then Benson, Shipley, Braelon, Roschon and Giddens.

Those guys started going in Round 11 & 12 in my league

 

[Ilov80s]

Guys likely going round 12 or beyond that I like:

Ray Davis, Allgieir, Mason, Guerendo, Braelon, Strange, Henry, Schultz, J'Tavion Sanders, Fant, Conklin. Just taking late TEs seems like a good way to go since guys late aren't guarantee many touches so at least maximize the fantasy points per touch that you do get.

 

[nittanylion]

Through Round 15: 2QB/1RB/10WR/1TE

Daniels/McLaurin , Fields/Wilson , Ward/Ridley
Josh Jacobs
BThomas, DvSmith, JmWilliams, JJennings, Mooney, JHiggins, JMcMillan
Likely

 

[DaddyFatSacks]

Through round 12 - RB heavy

QB - Mayfield, Goff
RB - Gibbs, Henry, Montgomery, Swift, Pollard, White, Dobbins
WR - JSN, Godwin, Mooney

 

[Lehigh98]

My pick is coming back up at 10.09 and 11.04 and highest ADP values still on the board by far are Goff and Stroud but I'll probably pass again because I think my other potential stacks (Penix & Stafford) can be had later and we've got a big glut of starting QB's that will all score about the same anyway (Goff, Stroud, Penix, Ward, Stafford, Geno, Tua, Darnold, Rodgers, ARich, etc) still available and 7 teams already have 2 QB's and 5 others (including me) already have 1 QB. How many people will take a 3rd QB who will sit on the bench before filling out their starting lineups? I'm actually regretting taking Dak a bit because I think QB will be best value for several rounds that I won't be able to take full advantage of now.

Well, I was planning on taking Penix or Stafford at 12.09 but I played chicken a little too long and there was a run on QB's right before my pick (Penix, Ward, Stafford) so I needed to grab a second before the last few got snagged as #3 QB's. I took Tua and then Geno went. Next pick may be my last chance to get a 3rd QB that's starting so may grab Darnold if he makes it back or decide between Rodgers and trying to get the ARich/Jones combo (that should at least have a little rushing upside no matter who starts). I think I may be leaning towards the ARich/Jones combo but no assurances I'll get both with 16 picks between my next two.

I took Deebo at 11.04 gambling that Penix and Trey Benson (I have James Conner) would make it back to me, but Penix went right before my 12.09 and Benson went right before my 13.04. Probably should have skipped Deebo and went Penix at 11.04 and Benson at 12.09.

So far I've got: Jeanty, CeeDee, London, Conner, Davante, Sutton, Metcalf, Prescott, Jakobi, Pittman, Deebo, Tua, and one other pick before my next one.

 

[menobrown]

I took Deebo at 11.04 gambling that Penix and Trey Benson (I have James Conner) would make it back to me, but Penix went right before my 12.09 and Benson went right before my 13.04. Probably should have skipped Deebo and went Penix at 11.04 and Benson at 12.09.

I don't know. I like Deebo more then those guys, he has a higher ADP, feel like you made the logical and right call. I took him myself over a round before you did, at 10.01, which is almost exactly is ADP but I'm picking on the ends and can't really worry to much about ADP anyway.

 

[menobrown]

Speaking of that Deebo pick at 10.01, that was the last pick in my very slow moving draft and at best we'll likely only get in one more pick before the night is over. Since the league is for charity I'm trying to be chill but have taking to calling the league a "a bunch of Corey Dillons" on the league message board. I'm not sure they even know what I mean.

My team through 10 picks

Bijan, J Taylor, Kamara, Garrett Wilson, Caleb Williams, Harvey, Njoku, T-Law, Kraft and Deebo

Last year was last year but my first 3 picks were all top in 8 overall in PPG scoring last year in this format and a major reason was volume, feel good about them continuing that kind of production/volume when healthy, was nothing extraordinary about any of their performances IMO they can't repeat or come close so like that core.

Njoku was 33rd overall last year and getting a TE who gets the target load he does at 3.5 points per reception for TE's in round 8 seemed like awesome value.

Other then those 4 banking on Garret Wilson being a target hog even with a low volume passer, and if he's no better then last year I got what I paid for as he was #51 overall last year in PPG so I thought worth the shot at improvement.

Harvey, Kraft and Deebo have varying degrees of upside to me and then mixed in two high upside QB's who had really bad seasons on the thinking they can turn it around.

Seems solid to me but I don't know, can't say I realy have any kind of a handle on this thing.

 

[barackdhouse]

I took Deebo at 11.04 gambling that Penix and Trey Benson (I have James Conner) would make it back to me, but Penix went right before my 12.09 and Benson went right before my 13.04. Probably should have skipped Deebo and went Penix at 11.04 and Benson at 12.09.

I don't know. I like Deebo more then those guys, he has a higher ADP, feel like you made the logical and right call. I took him myself over a round before you did, at 10.01, which is almost exactly is ADP but I'm picking on the ends and can't really worry to much about ADP anyway.

I took Deebo at 8.10

 

[jm192]

Through 10:

Bowers
Puka
Hall
Cook
Nix
DJ Moore
Montgomery
Goff
Jakobi Meyers
Jake Ferguson

Starting to see some guys really jump ADP. I was looking for Dobbins and realized he went in the 8th.

 

[jm192]

1.6 Saquon Barkley
2.7 Puka Nacua
3.7 Breece Hall
4.6 Travis Hunter
5.7 Justin Fields
6.6 Kaleb Johnson
7.7 Evan Engram

I got Puka and Breece rounds 2 and 3. I would have followed you on Hunter if he had still been available. Great value there.

 

[barackdhouse]

thru 15:

J Daniels, C Williams, A Richardson
Hampton, Connor, Henderson, Skattebo, Sampson (14.10)
Chase, Jamo, Deebo, Coleman, Burden, Tillman
Loveland

 

[bro1ncos]

Finished

Fields
McCarthy
Cam Ward

Brealon Allen
Algeier
James Cook
Dobbins
D Henry
Will Shipley
D Swift
J Taylor
J Warren
Rachad White

Calvin Austin III
Iosivas
Kuup
Lockett
Ray Ray McCloud
Alec Pierce
C Sutton
Westbrook-Ikhine

Theo Johnson

 

[nittanylion]

Through Round 19: 3QB/1RB/12WR/3TE

Last 4: Tyler Higbee, Calvin Austin , Theo Johnson, Hollywood Brown

Daniels/McLaurin , Fields/Wilson , Ward/Ridley
Josh Jacobs
BThomas, DvSmith, JmWilliams, JJennings, Mooney, JHiggins, JMcMillan, CAustin, HBrown
Likely, Higbee, TJohnson

What a sicko - I'm annoyed because I'm actually mulling over a half-dozen guys for these last 3 picks!

 

[Lehigh98]

Well, I was busy today and put some guys on predraft and it got to the bottom of my list, Anthony Richardson acquired at 15.04... as my 4th QB. News hasn't been great, and I actually unloaded him at the end of last season in my main dynasty superflex league but if he can get right, beat out Jones, and be even a mediocre passer, could be a good value there... I guess? Waited on QB so have some questionable ones so might as well have a couple back up plans, right?

Pick	Player
1.09	Ashton Jeanty
2.04	CeeDee Lamb
3.04	Drake London
4.09	James Conner
5.04	Davante Adams
6.09	Courtland Sutton
7.04	DK Metcalf
8.09	Dak Prescott
9.04	Jakobi Meyers
10.09	Michael Pittman Jr
11.04	Deebo Samuel
12.09	Tua Tagovailoa
13.04	Sam Darnold
14.09	Chigoziem Okonkwo
15.04	Anthony Richardson

 

[ZWK]

My squad with 2 picks left [edit: and now complete]:

1.05 Saquon Barkley
2.08 Puka Nacua
3.08 James Cook
4.05 Omarion Hampton
5.08 Aaron Jones
6.05 Kaleb Johnson
7.08 Tetairoa McMillan
8.05 Calvin Ridley
9.08 JJ McCarthy QB
10.05 Stefon Diggs
11.08 Anthony Richardson QB
12.05 Matthew Golden
13.08 Jonnu Smith
14.05 Jaxson Dart QB
15.08 Luther Burden
16.05 Marquise Brown
17.08 Terrance Ferguson
18.05 Joe Flacco QB
19.08 Kirk Cousins QB
20.05 Woody Marks
21.08 Elijah Mitchell
22.05 Kenny Pickett QB

Wanted to get a mid-round QB group like @Lehigh98 's, but they went off the board faster in my league and I wound up with this group of 5. Could turn out great, especially if Richardson starts, but I could have to superflex a non-QB if I go 0/4 on these QBs with a shot at a starting job. I'm trying to decide whether to add one more.

Went very rookie-heavy for the upside. I was especially excited to land NFL 2nd rounders Burden & Ferguson late; wish I'd gotten Arroyo too.

edit: added my last 2 picks

 

[jm192]

Through 13:

Bowers
Puka
Hall
Cook
Nix
DJ Moore
Montgomery
Goff
Jakobi Meyers
Jake Ferguson
Michael Pittman
Geno Smith
Tre Harris

Talking quickly through the last 5:

9: Jakobi: Big fan, especially this year. He finished as the #60 overall player last year. QB play is better. I was hoping Olave or Odunze would fall here. When they didn't, Jakobi was an auto-click.

10: Ferguson: Expect him to be quite a bit better with Dak healthy for the entire season. He'd be a lot higher if they hadn't brough in Pickens, but I still think Ferguson has a good season. I also considered Najee Harris here. I expect LAC to split the carries ~50-50 or maybe 60-40 in favor of Hampton. I think Najee sees enough work to be pretty relavent in the format. There's a small part of me that worries I take Najee and Hampton runs away with the job. I think Ferguson's role is more sure, and I think the upside is higher.

11: Pittman: Talking out of both sides of my mouth: I think Pittman is a bounce back candidate. I don't believe in AR whatsoever. But I figure he improves as a passer or they start Daniel Jones. The back injury surely contributed to his performance last year as well. I don't forsee him as a 100 catch guy, but I think he can get back into the 80's. I also considered Egbuka for the upside. I'll have gotten this one wrong by the end of the season. I figured Pittman has a locked in starter role. Egbuka needs something to go right between Evans/Godwin (and it could given Godwin's ankle injury). I can see Godwin coming back slowly and Egbuka blowing the doors off the NFL.

12: Geno Smith: I wanted Tua, but Tua went 1 pick before me. The only other consideration was to jump ADP and grab Marvin Mims/Tre Harris. Geno gives me a 3rd QB. Geno is more likely to give me 20+ points weekly if I need to play him. Geno gives me stacks with Bowers and Jakobi come playoff time (though Mims obviously would have given me the Nix stack). Ultimately I went Geno hoping Mims or Harris would wheel back.

13. Tre Harris: After filling out the starters and a 3rd QB, I think we're swinging for upside. I really looked at Shaheed and Christian Kirk. I think if someone really blows up of those 3, it's Harris.

 

[ZWK]

My squad with 2 picks left:

1.05 Saquon Barkley
2.08 Puka Nacua
3.08 James Cook
4.05 Omarion Hampton
5.08 Aaron Jones
6.05 Kaleb Johnson
7.08 Tetairoa McMillan
8.05 Calvin Ridley
9.08 JJ McCarthy QB
10.05 Stefon Diggs
11.08 Anthony Richardson QB
12.05 Matthew Golden
13.08 Jonnu Smith
14.05 Jaxson Dart QB
15.08 Luther Burden
16.05 Marquise Brown
17.08 Terrance Ferguson
18.05 Joe Flacco QB
19.08 Kirk Cousins QB
20.05 Woody Marks

Wanted to get a mid-round QB group like @Lehigh98 's, but they went off the board faster in my league and I wound up with this group of 5. Could turn out great, especially if Richardson starts, but I could have to superflex a non-QB if I go 0/4 on these QBs with a shot at a starting job. I'm trying to decide whether to add one more.

Went very rookie-heavy for the upside. I was especially excited to land NFL 2nd rounders Burden & Ferguson late; wish I'd gotten Arroyo too.

Late-round picks are interesting in this format. I think of them as basically reserving a player for the first waiver run, which happens just before week 1. A round 21 pick whose preseason goes as expected is probably someone you cut to make a waiver add; I want to use that pick on someone who has a plausible shot at increasing in value over the next month and a half and becoming someone who is clearly worth rostering.

With that in mind, these guys look like the best available for my round 22 pick (after adding Elijah Mitchell in rd21). These are limited to players who haven't been drafted yet in my league, and sorted within position by how many leagues they've been drafted in.

QB: Spencer Rattler, Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel
RB: Kyle Monangai, Jacory Croskey-Merritt, AJ Dillon, Samaje Perine, Alexander Mattison
TE/WR: TE Ben Sinnott, TE Harold Fannin, WR Adonai Mitchell, TE Oronde Gadsden

QB: Any QB who is a week 1 NFL starter should & will be on a SFB roster for week 1. Rattler & Pickett have a plausible shot at being week 1 starters, and so should be drafted. You can cut them if they don't win the job. The Cleveland rookies are both worth drafting too, even if you don't think they have a shot at the week 1 starting job, because they do at least both have a shot at being named the week 1 backup QB (especially if Cleveland decides to move on from whichever one of its vets loses the competition to start), and that would give them a good shot at getting some starts this year. Every team in a superflex league like this one should want to roster at least 3 NFL starting QBs, at least to be able to handle byes and injuries, and there are less than 36 NFL teams, so guys like these are worth rostering (at least for 6 weeks as we see how the preseason competitions play out).

RB: Handcuff backs who appear to be 1 injury away from a big role all got drafted several rounds ago, but RBs who are competing for a handcuff role are still around, and by the beginning of September some of them could clearly emerge from what currently looks like a muddy depth chart. My round 20 & 21 picks (Woody Marks in HOU and Elijah Mitchell in KC) fit this mold, as do AJ Dillon in PHI, Samaje Perine in CIN, and Alexander Mattison in MIA. They're not the most popular or exciting names from those depth charts, but I think they're contenders for the guy who would lead the backfield if Mixon/Pacheco/Barkley/Brown/Achane missed time, and they could look like the favorite for that role by the time waivers run on September 2nd. 7th rounders Monangai & Croskey-Merritt currently look like clear 3rd stringers, but they have the advantage that neither of the guys in front of them are that good so they could move up the depth chart based on performance rather than injuries.

TE/WR: Rookies & second year players are the main guys to look at here as potential breakouts (though it's also worth considering veteran bounceback candidates). Sinnott & Mitchell disappointed last year as 2nd round rookies but still have some hope of breaking out in year 2. History has shown that 2nd round tight ends sometimes need a year to adjust to the NFL before they can leapfrog Zach Ertz on the depth chart and become their team's top receiving option. Fannin & Gadsden are rookies with receiving TE profiles - Fannin was a better prospect & went earlier in the draft, Gadsden has a weaker TE depth chart in front of him and has gotten some early offseason buzz.

 

[Dez]

Some live Fish Bowl on XM Saturday 2-4 PM ET

 

[nittanylion]

Through Round 19: 3QB/1RB/12WR/3TE

Last 4: Tyler Higbee, Calvin Austin , Theo Johnson, Hollywood Brown

Daniels/McLaurin , Fields/Wilson , Ward/Ridley
Josh Jacobs
BThomas, DvSmith, JmWilliams, JJennings, Mooney, JHiggins, JMcMillan, CAustin, HBrown
Likely, Higbee, TJohnson

What a sicko - I'm annoyed because I'm actually mulling over a half-dozen guys for these last 3 picks!

Rounded out the Squad with: Elijah Moore, Dyami Brown and Jermaine Burton...

3QB/1RB/15WR/3TE - nice, balanced Rooster...yeah, right...WR or bust!!!

Good luck to all!

 

[Joe Bryant]

My squad with 2 picks left:

1.05 Saquon Barkley
2.08 Puka Nacua
3.08 James Cook
4.05 Omarion Hampton
5.08 Aaron Jones
6.05 Kaleb Johnson
7.08 Tetairoa McMillan
8.05 Calvin Ridley
9.08 JJ McCarthy QB
10.05 Stefon Diggs
11.08 Anthony Richardson QB
12.05 Matthew Golden
13.08 Jonnu Smith
14.05 Jaxson Dart QB
15.08 Luther Burden
16.05 Marquise Brown
17.08 Terrance Ferguson
18.05 Joe Flacco QB
19.08 Kirk Cousins QB
20.05 Woody Marks

Wanted to get a mid-round QB group like @Lehigh98 's, but they went off the board faster in my league and I wound up with this group of 5. Could turn out great, especially if Richardson starts, but I could have to superflex a non-QB if I go 0/4 on these QBs with a shot at a starting job. I'm trying to decide whether to add one more.

Went very rookie-heavy for the upside. I was especially excited to land NFL 2nd rounders Burden & Ferguson late; wish I'd gotten Arroyo too.

Late-round picks are interesting in this format. I think of them as basically reserving a player for the first waiver run, which happens just before week 1. A round 21 pick whose preseason goes as expected is probably someone you cut to make a waiver add; I want to use that pick on someone who has a plausible shot at increasing in value over the next month and a half and becoming someone who is clearly worth rostering.

With that in mind, these guys look like the best available for my round 22 pick (after adding Elijah Mitchell in rd21). These are limited to players who haven't been drafted yet in my league, and sorted within position by how many leagues they've been drafted in.

QB: Spencer Rattler, Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel
RB: Kyle Monangai, Jacory Croskey-Merritt, AJ Dillon, Samaje Perine, Alexander Mattison
TE/WR: TE Ben Sinnott, TE Harold Fannin, WR Adonai Mitchell, TE Oronde Gadsden

QB: Any QB who is a week 1 NFL starter should & will be on a SFB roster for week 1. Rattler & Pickett have a plausible shot at being week 1 starters, and so should be drafted. You can cut them if they don't win the job. The Cleveland rookies are both worth drafting too, even if you don't think they have a shot at the week 1 starting job, because they do at least both have a shot at being named the week 1 backup QB (especially if Cleveland decides to move on from whichever one of its vets loses the competition to start), and that would give them a good shot at getting some starts this year. Every team in a superflex league like this one should want to roster at least 3 NFL starting QBs, at least to be able to handle byes and injuries, and there are less than 36 NFL teams, so guys like these are worth rostering (at least for 6 weeks as we see how the preseason competitions play out).

RB: Handcuff backs who appear to be 1 injury away from a big role all got drafted several rounds ago, but RBs who are competing for a handcuff role are still around, and by the beginning of September some of them could clearly emerge from what currently looks like a muddy depth chart. My round 20 & 21 picks (Woody Marks in HOU and Elijah Mitchell in KC) fit this mold, as do AJ Dillon in PHI, Samaje Perine in CIN, and Alexander Mattison in MIA. They're not the most popular or exciting names from those depth charts, but I think they're contenders for the guy who would lead the backfield if Mixon/Pacheco/Barkley/Brown/Achane missed time, and they could look like the favorite for that role by the time waivers run on September 2nd. 7th rounders Monangai & Croskey-Merritt currently look like clear 3rd stringers, but they have the advantage that neither of the guys in front of them are that good so they could move up the depth chart based on performance rather than injuries.

TE/WR: Rookies & second year players are the main guys to look at here as potential breakouts (though it's also worth considering veteran bounceback candidates). Sinnott & Mitchell disappointed last year as 2nd round rookies but still have some hope of breaking out in year 2. History has shown that 2nd round tight ends sometimes need a year to adjust to the NFL before they can leapfrog Zach Ertz on the depth chart and become their team's top receiving option. Fannin & Gadsden are rookies with receiving TE profiles - Fannin was a better prospect & went earlier in the draft, Gadsden has a weaker TE depth chart in front of him and has gotten some early offseason buzz.

Really good posting.

 

[ZWK]

My squad with 2 picks left:

1.05 Saquon Barkley
2.08 Puka Nacua
3.08 James Cook
4.05 Omarion Hampton
5.08 Aaron Jones
6.05 Kaleb Johnson
7.08 Tetairoa McMillan
8.05 Calvin Ridley
9.08 JJ McCarthy QB
10.05 Stefon Diggs
11.08 Anthony Richardson QB
12.05 Matthew Golden
13.08 Jonnu Smith
14.05 Jaxson Dart QB
15.08 Luther Burden
16.05 Marquise Brown
17.08 Terrance Ferguson
18.05 Joe Flacco QB
19.08 Kirk Cousins QB
20.05 Woody Marks

Wanted to get a mid-round QB group like @Lehigh98 's, but they went off the board faster in my league and I wound up with this group of 5. Could turn out great, especially if Richardson starts, but I could have to superflex a non-QB if I go 0/4 on these QBs with a shot at a starting job. I'm trying to decide whether to add one more.

Went very rookie-heavy for the upside. I was especially excited to land NFL 2nd rounders Burden & Ferguson late; wish I'd gotten Arroyo too.

Late-round picks are interesting in this format. I think of them as basically reserving a player for the first waiver run, which happens just before week 1. A round 21 pick whose preseason goes as expected is probably someone you cut to make a waiver add; I want to use that pick on someone who has a plausible shot at increasing in value over the next month and a half and becoming someone who is clearly worth rostering.

With that in mind, these guys look like the best available for my round 22 pick (after adding Elijah Mitchell in rd21). These are limited to players who haven't been drafted yet in my league, and sorted within position by how many leagues they've been drafted in.

QB: Spencer Rattler, Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel
RB: Kyle Monangai, Jacory Croskey-Merritt, AJ Dillon, Samaje Perine, Alexander Mattison
TE/WR: TE Ben Sinnott, TE Harold Fannin, WR Adonai Mitchell, TE Oronde Gadsden

QB: Any QB who is a week 1 NFL starter should & will be on a SFB roster for week 1. Rattler & Pickett have a plausible shot at being week 1 starters, and so should be drafted. You can cut them if they don't win the job. The Cleveland rookies are both worth drafting too, even if you don't think they have a shot at the week 1 starting job, because they do at least both have a shot at being named the week 1 backup QB (especially if Cleveland decides to move on from whichever one of its vets loses the competition to start), and that would give them a good shot at getting some starts this year. Every team in a superflex league like this one should want to roster at least 3 NFL starting QBs, at least to be able to handle byes and injuries, and there are less than 36 NFL teams, so guys like these are worth rostering (at least for 6 weeks as we see how the preseason competitions play out).

RB: Handcuff backs who appear to be 1 injury away from a big role all got drafted several rounds ago, but RBs who are competing for a handcuff role are still around, and by the beginning of September some of them could clearly emerge from what currently looks like a muddy depth chart. My round 20 & 21 picks (Woody Marks in HOU and Elijah Mitchell in KC) fit this mold, as do AJ Dillon in PHI, Samaje Perine in CIN, and Alexander Mattison in MIA. They're not the most popular or exciting names from those depth charts, but I think they're contenders for the guy who would lead the backfield if Mixon/Pacheco/Barkley/Brown/Achane missed time, and they could look like the favorite for that role by the time waivers run on September 2nd. 7th rounders Monangai & Croskey-Merritt currently look like clear 3rd stringers, but they have the advantage that neither of the guys in front of them are that good so they could move up the depth chart based on performance rather than injuries.

TE/WR: Rookies & second year players are the main guys to look at here as potential breakouts (though it's also worth considering veteran bounceback candidates). Sinnott & Mitchell disappointed last year as 2nd round rookies but still have some hope of breaking out in year 2. History has shown that 2nd round tight ends sometimes need a year to adjust to the NFL before they can leapfrog Zach Ertz on the depth chart and become their team's top receiving option. Fannin & Gadsden are rookies with receiving TE profiles - Fannin was a better prospect & went earlier in the draft, Gadsden has a weaker TE depth chart in front of him and has gotten some early offseason buzz.

Went with Pickett to try to make sure that I have 2 starting QBs week 1. The Flacco+Pickett duo probably gives me the Browns week 1 starter and there's plenty of doubt about whether any of Richardson, Dart, or Cousins will be week 1 starters.

That gives me 6 QBs, which is currently tied for the second-most according to the Roster Builds tool (one team has 7, and I'm 1 of 15 teams with 6). That doesn't feel like overkill, partly because I'll probably be cutting at least one of them in the first waiver run. Since we're starting 2 QBs out of 11, it makes sense to roster about 4 QBs out of 22, and to lean higher if there are more question marks / late round picks in that group or if they're part of a temporary roster churn.

I nearly went with Gadsden, who was my favorite of these flex options. For a late-round dart throw, I love his combination of potential (college production + camp buzz) and opportunity (LAC has a good quarterback, only 1 good receiving option, and mediocre TEs in front of him).

 

[jm192]

My squad with 2 picks left:

1.05 Saquon Barkley
2.08 Puka Nacua
3.08 James Cook
4.05 Omarion Hampton
5.08 Aaron Jones
6.05 Kaleb Johnson
7.08 Tetairoa McMillan
8.05 Calvin Ridley
9.08 JJ McCarthy QB
10.05 Stefon Diggs
11.08 Anthony Richardson QB
12.05 Matthew Golden
13.08 Jonnu Smith
14.05 Jaxson Dart QB
15.08 Luther Burden
16.05 Marquise Brown
17.08 Terrance Ferguson
18.05 Joe Flacco QB
19.08 Kirk Cousins QB
20.05 Woody Marks

Wanted to get a mid-round QB group like @Lehigh98 's, but they went off the board faster in my league and I wound up with this group of 5. Could turn out great, especially if Richardson starts, but I could have to superflex a non-QB if I go 0/4 on these QBs with a shot at a starting job. I'm trying to decide whether to add one more.

Went very rookie-heavy for the upside. I was especially excited to land NFL 2nd rounders Burden & Ferguson late; wish I'd gotten Arroyo too.

Late-round picks are interesting in this format. I think of them as basically reserving a player for the first waiver run, which happens just before week 1. A round 21 pick whose preseason goes as expected is probably someone you cut to make a waiver add; I want to use that pick on someone who has a plausible shot at increasing in value over the next month and a half and becoming someone who is clearly worth rostering.

With that in mind, these guys look like the best available for my round 22 pick (after adding Elijah Mitchell in rd21). These are limited to players who haven't been drafted yet in my league, and sorted within position by how many leagues they've been drafted in.

QB: Spencer Rattler, Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel
RB: Kyle Monangai, Jacory Croskey-Merritt, AJ Dillon, Samaje Perine, Alexander Mattison
TE/WR: TE Ben Sinnott, TE Harold Fannin, WR Adonai Mitchell, TE Oronde Gadsden

QB: Any QB who is a week 1 NFL starter should & will be on a SFB roster for week 1. Rattler & Pickett have a plausible shot at being week 1 starters, and so should be drafted. You can cut them if they don't win the job. The Cleveland rookies are both worth drafting too, even if you don't think they have a shot at the week 1 starting job, because they do at least both have a shot at being named the week 1 backup QB (especially if Cleveland decides to move on from whichever one of its vets loses the competition to start), and that would give them a good shot at getting some starts this year. Every team in a superflex league like this one should want to roster at least 3 NFL starting QBs, at least to be able to handle byes and injuries, and there are less than 36 NFL teams, so guys like these are worth rostering (at least for 6 weeks as we see how the preseason competitions play out).

RB: Handcuff backs who appear to be 1 injury away from a big role all got drafted several rounds ago, but RBs who are competing for a handcuff role are still around, and by the beginning of September some of them could clearly emerge from what currently looks like a muddy depth chart. My round 20 & 21 picks (Woody Marks in HOU and Elijah Mitchell in KC) fit this mold, as do AJ Dillon in PHI, Samaje Perine in CIN, and Alexander Mattison in MIA. They're not the most popular or exciting names from those depth charts, but I think they're contenders for the guy who would lead the backfield if Mixon/Pacheco/Barkley/Brown/Achane missed time, and they could look like the favorite for that role by the time waivers run on September 2nd. 7th rounders Monangai & Croskey-Merritt currently look like clear 3rd stringers, but they have the advantage that neither of the guys in front of them are that good so they could move up the depth chart based on performance rather than injuries.

TE/WR: Rookies & second year players are the main guys to look at here as potential breakouts (though it's also worth considering veteran bounceback candidates). Sinnott & Mitchell disappointed last year as 2nd round rookies but still have some hope of breaking out in year 2. History has shown that 2nd round tight ends sometimes need a year to adjust to the NFL before they can leapfrog Zach Ertz on the depth chart and become their team's top receiving option. Fannin & Gadsden are rookies with receiving TE profiles - Fannin was a better prospect & went earlier in the draft, Gadsden has a weaker TE depth chart in front of him and has gotten some early offseason buzz.

I like Sinnott in this format.

Obviously, all signs point to Ertz getting most of the run. But in round 22, we're swinging for the fences. Ertz is 35 or 36. He could lose a step. I guess he could always get hurt too. If Sinnot gets significant snaps as JD's TE, he could return really nice value.

 

[jm192]

We're in round 15, and I was really hoping Chig would get back to me. He went 3 picks before me.

One thing I love about doing something like this so early is it forces you to think about guys you're not thinking about as much at this point of the year.

I feel like Chig is interesting again this year. I know we've done the "Chig is a sleeper" thing before. But who is going to catch passes for the Titans beyond Ridley? Ward doesn't have to be anything special as a rookie to be an upgrade from Levis. The Titans just picked first. Presumably, they're going to lose most of their games again this year. They're going to be playing from behind and passing.

He could wind up 2nd in targets on a team that is forced to pass a lot.

 

[Dez]

2-4 PM ET today on Sirius XM coverage of live drafts.

These drafts have much more info now that matters in a start your 1st 11 picks draft.

People who already drafted Rice, Addison, Judkins going to take a huge hit losing a starter when you start 11 guys and have to peel off your 12th or 13th pick (pending on if you did 3 QBs) as a starter for 3 to 6 games or whatever it is for Judkins.

In this format more than any other the suspended guys will drop even more or should at least since all 11 of your 1st picks should be starters.

 

[Ilov80s]

Final Sleep Roster from the 4 slot

Gibbs
Amon Ra
AJ Brown
Bo Nix
Tee Higgins
Sutton
Waddle
Goff
Jayden Reed
Pearsall
Jayden Higgins
Jerome Ford
Tyler Allgier
Hunter Henry
Jalen McMillan
Kyle Williams
Pat Friarmouth
Devin Neal
Andre Iosivas
Ben Sinnott
Elijah Moore
Troy Franklin

Got a Goff-Gibbs-ARSB stack and Nix-Sutton-Franklin stack

 

[Dez]

No live draft on XM from 2-4 PM it has all been talk about players and some already drafted teams