Interesting fact regarding the 8 remaining teams... (1 Viewer)

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

6 out of the 8 remaining teams have head coaches whose only NFL head coaching gig is with the current team. No retreads.

*This information is subject to me having had a brain cloud and forgetting something.

Titans -- Fisher

Ravens -- Harbaugh

Pitt -- Tomlin

Carolina -- Fox

Arizona -- Whisenhunt

Philly -- Reid

It is my impression that this is highly unusual.

 

[Chaka]

6 out of the 8 remaining teams have head coaches whose only NFL head coaching gig is with the current team. No retreads.

*This information is subject to me having had a brain cloud and forgetting something.

Titans -- Fisher

Ravens -- Harbaugh

Pitt -- Tomlin

Carolina -- Fox

Arizona -- Whisenhunt

Philly -- Reid

It is my impression that this is highly unusual.

Three of those guys have been on the job for only one or two years. Seems to me that should factor into this somehow.

 

[perry147]

6 out of the 8 remaining teams have head coaches whose only NFL head coaching gig is with the current team. No retreads.

*This information is subject to me having had a brain cloud and forgetting something.

Titans -- Fisher

Ravens -- Harbaugh

Pitt -- Tomlin

Carolina -- Fox

Arizona -- Whisenhunt

Philly -- Reid

It is my impression that this is highly unusual.

The team not listed here and who won the superbowl last year was coached by a guy who had a daughter that was married to an offensive lineman on his team, he also attended Syracuse University that is the same college that the QB for the opposing team (which happens to be in their same division) went to.

 

[CrossEyed]

6 out of the 8 remaining teams have head coaches whose only NFL head coaching gig is with the current team. No retreads.

*This information is subject to me having had a brain cloud and forgetting something.

Titans -- Fisher

Ravens -- Harbaugh

Pitt -- Tomlin

Carolina -- Fox

Arizona -- Whisenhunt

Philly -- Reid

It is my impression that this is highly unusual.

The team not listed here and who won the superbowl last year was coached by a guy who had a daughter that was married to an offensive lineman on his team, he also attended Syracuse University that is the same college that the QB for the opposing team (which happens to be in their same division) went to.

Wow, what are the odds?

 

[Bri]

How many playoffs of the last 20 years have had a once giant coach(in some form) in them?

I would guess it's close to 19 of 20.

For example this year is Coughlin and Fox who was a DC for the Gmen.

 

[Zoomanji]

7 of the 8 have coached for a NFL team based in Pennsylvania.

 

[videoguy505]

6 out of the 8 remaining teams have head coaches whose only NFL head coaching gig is with the current team. No retreads.

*This information is subject to me having had a brain cloud and forgetting something.

Titans -- Fisher

Ravens -- Harbaugh

Pitt -- Tomlin

Carolina -- Fox

Arizona -- Whisenhunt

Philly -- Reid

It is my impression that this is highly unusual.

The team not listed here and who won the superbowl last year was coached by a guy who had a daughter that was married to an offensive lineman on his team, he also attended Syracuse University that is the same college that the QB for the opposing team (which happens to be in their same division) went to.

Wow, what are the odds?

Factor in that said coach from Syracuse University also won said Super Bowl because a player on his team, who also went to Syracuse University, prefers to catch with his head instead of his hands. Inconceivable!

 

[T Bell]

I don't know if this is representative of this concept or not, but I'm an advocate of teams hiring coordinators and position coaches for their first head coaching gig rather than retreads as a general matter. I think that job is extremely demanding and stressful, and it's best to get guys on a career upswing rather than people who've been worn down by the job in previous stops. There are exceptions to this, and there are certainly risks in dealing with untested head coaches, but IMHO that's the best way to end up with the best guys.

 

[Tick]

I don't know if this is representative of this concept or not, but I'm an advocate of teams hiring coordinators and position coaches for their first head coaching gig rather than retreads as a general matter. I think that job is extremely demanding and stressful, and it's best to get guys on a career upswing rather than people who've been worn down by the job in previous stops. There are exceptions to this, and there are certainly risks in dealing with untested head coaches, but IMHO that's the best way to end up with the best guys.

I think this is a pretty tough argument to make.07 Coughlin - retread06 Dungy - retread05 Cowher04 Belichick - retread03 Belichick - retread02 Gruden - retread01 Belichick - retread00 Billick99 Vermeil - retread98 Shanahan - retreadTwo SB winners in the past ten years had coaches in their first job.I like to see new blood, but I'm not sure it pays off.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I think the fact that so many are relatively new coaches speaks well for giving new guys a chance (like Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, even). New faces are making an impact quickly, which is what everyone wants with fat salaries given to unproven playing and coaching talent. At least there's some payoff.

Personally, I can't say enough Jeff Fisher. On paper, why are his teams always so competitive? I know he's never won a SB but if I'm starting a new team he's the guy I tap and hand a 10-year contract.

 

[Chaka]

I just uncovered this fact and it blew my mind.

100% of the coaches who have won the Super Bowl...in fact 100% of the coaches who have ever coached in an NFL game, have a Y chromosome.

[Keanu]Whoa.[/Keanu]

 

[Raider Nation]

Six of the eight starting QBs this weekend have started in a Super Bowl.

It would have been 7 for 8 had Indy won the coin flip last weekend.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Six of the eight starting QBs this weekend have started in a Super Bowl.It would have been 7 for 8 had Indy won the coin flip last weekend.

Yeah, because their offense scored at will in that game.

 

[Bri]

Six of the eight starting QBs this weekend have started in a Super Bowl.It would have been 7 for 8 had Indy won the coin flip last weekend.

noticed that fact too. Also Kerry can become the first QB to win a playoff game with 3 different teams. I would have figured with FA that someone else did that. There's one kicking around about Flacco that just seems wrong-something like only rookie QB to win 2 playoff games or somesuch yet Marino, Roth, and King(Tampa QB?) all have. Another I'm not sure of (lil help?) Giants are the 5th SuperBowl champ returning as a #1 seed and the other 4 all made the Supe.

 

[T Bell]

I don't know if this is representative of this concept or not, but I'm an advocate of teams hiring coordinators and position coaches for their first head coaching gig rather than retreads as a general matter. I think that job is extremely demanding and stressful, and it's best to get guys on a career upswing rather than people who've been worn down by the job in previous stops. There are exceptions to this, and there are certainly risks in dealing with untested head coaches, but IMHO that's the best way to end up with the best guys.

I think this is a pretty tough argument to make.07 Coughlin - retread06 Dungy - retread05 Cowher04 Belichick - retread03 Belichick - retread02 Gruden - retread01 Belichick - retread00 Billick99 Vermeil - retread98 Shanahan - retreadTwo SB winners in the past ten years had coaches in their first job.I like to see new blood, but I'm not sure it pays off.

That's an interesting breakdown, and one I hadn't seen compiled before your post. I'm not sure it's as convincing as advertised, however. Shanny was with the Raiders so briefly that he frankly doesn't qualify on any but technical grounds - nobody would dispute that he was hardly given a chance in Oakland.Gruden and Dungy are odd ones, given that Gruden won a Super Bowl that in most respects had been earned by Dungy. It's a unique situation. I believe that Gruden's best overall coaching work was done in Oakland; the same may arguably be true of Dungy regarding his Tampa tenure given what he inherited and built, and also given his failure in Indy to construct a defense (his area of expertise) like he did in Tampa. I would tend to regard those two titles as being on Dungy's resume, with the more impressive of the two being won by Tampa given how dismal they were when he got them; Indy was already a perrenial 10+ win team with Peyton Manning when Dungy got there. Belichick, the best single counter to my argument, represents a third of those names, but he's only one guy. Coughlin is another clear example. Vermeil had an unusual amount of time between jobs, but he also qualifies as a counter example. The counter to these guys, though, are guys like Parcells (who in each successive stop advanced less far in the playoffs than he had in previous stops), Gibbs, Schottenheimer, Buddy Ryan, Dennis Green, Mariucci, Holmgren, etc. I still think that the general concept that I'm referring to tends to hold true.

 

[Slider]

6 out of the 8 remaining teams have head coaches whose only NFL head coaching gig is with the current team. No retreads.

*This information is subject to me having had a brain cloud and forgetting something.

Titans -- Fisher

Ravens -- Harbaugh

Pitt -- Tomlin

Carolina -- Fox

Arizona -- Whisenhunt

Philly -- Reid

It is my impression that this is highly unusual.

Seems like you need a great DC or a great QB and a bad division.

 

[DropKick]

That's an interesting observation.

But I think your definition of "retread" is too tight. I don't think you qualify as such until your 3rd team. Even Don Shula coached the Colts prior to his success with the Dolphins. It's the guys who just keep circulating around the league that I would term a retread.

 

[Rovers]

6 out of the 8 remaining teams have head coaches whose only NFL head coaching gig is with the current team. No retreads.

*This information is subject to me having had a brain cloud and forgetting something.

Titans -- Fisher

Ravens -- Harbaugh

Pitt -- Tomlin

Carolina -- Fox

Arizona -- Whisenhunt

Philly -- Reid

It is my impression that this is highly unusual.

The team not listed here and who won the superbowl last year was coached by a guy who had a daughter that was married to an offensive lineman on his team, he also attended Syracuse University that is the same college that the QB for the opposing team (which happens to be in their same division) went to.

OK, I think you are saying that Coughlin, not Snee went to 'cuse?Snee went to BC, and was living with Coughlin's daughter when the Giants drafted him. He later married her. I believe they may have had a child before they got hitched, could be wrong about that one...

 

[T Bell]

6 out of the 8 remaining teams have head coaches whose only NFL head coaching gig is with the current team. No retreads.

*This information is subject to me having had a brain cloud and forgetting something.

Titans -- Fisher

Ravens -- Harbaugh

Pitt -- Tomlin

Carolina -- Fox

Arizona -- Whisenhunt

Philly -- Reid

It is my impression that this is highly unusual.

The team not listed here and who won the superbowl last year was coached by a guy who had a daughter that was married to an offensive lineman on his team, he also attended Syracuse University that is the same college that the QB for the opposing team (which happens to be in their same division) went to.

OK, I think you are saying that Coughlin, not Snee went to 'cuse?Snee went to BC, and was living with Coughlin's daughter when the Giants drafted him. He later married her. I believe they may have had a child before they got hitched, could be wrong about that one...

Was Coughlin's granddaughter delivered early, or was she fined?

 

[Bri]

There's one kicking around about Flacco that just seems wrong-something like only rookie QB to win 2 playoff games or somesuch yet Marino, Roth, and King(Tampa QB?) all have.

heard this on the game todaycan anyone clarify?

 

[Doug Drinen]

There's one kicking around about Flacco that just seems wrong-something like only rookie QB to win 2 playoff games or somesuch yet Marino, Roth, and King(Tampa QB?) all have.

heard this on the game todaycan anyone clarify?

King and Roethlisberger were 1-1 in the postseason in their rookie years. Marino was 0-1.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

There's one kicking around about Flacco that just seems wrong-something like only rookie QB to win 2 playoff games or somesuch yet Marino, Roth, and King(Tampa QB?) all have.

heard this on the game todaycan anyone clarify?

I think Roethlisberger's team was good enough to get a bye, and was eventually flattened by the Patriots at home. Don't know if King was a rookie, but I believe they beat Washington before losing 11-6 to the Rams in the championship game. At the time it was the only game in NFL history to end 11-6. Don't know if it's happened since.