Irons C.Perry Watson (1 Viewer)

[redman]

Irons is the most explosive runner on the team when healthy IMHO...right now he's a huge value play. Watson is best suited in a 3rd down role and Rudi's best days may be behind him and Perry sucks.Go after Irons if you're looking for a high risk/high reward play.

Perry sucks? That's incorrect.. injury prone.. but skill wise.. he's the best RB on the team. He also has better hands than their stud receivers.

2004 he played 2 games, had zero TD and ranked 149 as RB in fantasy points.2005 He played 14 games, scored 2 Td's and did catch the ball 51 times and ranked 45 in fantasy points.2006- played 6 games, caught the ball 9 times and didn't score. Ranked 109 in fantasy points.First 3 years in the league, 2 out of 3 years he didn't score. His big year he scored 2 TD's and averages 7 games per year, which is less than half a season.Sucks is a very vague term. I think what you're saying is IF this guy could play a full season, he wouldn't suck. But you're using an IF. A lot of people could use an IF when talking about fantasy football. IF Michael Turner started an entire year, he might get 1500 yards.The bottom line IS what he has done the 3 years I posted above. For a running back, Lhucks is correct, it sucks. He has sucked since he's been in the NFL. Please make an argument for him not sucking and please don't use IF's, like IF he was healthy.

He's not saying he sucks because of his stats and fantasy numbers... he's saying he doesn't have talent. I think he does have talent. I can't say he's a stud, but you can't say he sucks either, we don't have the data to back it up because he's always been injured. My arguments for him not sucking are that he almost broke the bengals RB recieving record while backing up Rudi, and when he gets a few carries in, he's getting good yards on the attempt. He also makes a good Bengals O great. They haven't been the same on offense since 05. I just don't see how the verdict can be he sucks when we haven't seen him get his chance.

Well, any RB in the NFL has some degree of talent, so maybe he didn't have his morning coffee yet. He started for the univeristy of Michigan and did a fine job, so he does have some talent.Anytime you catch the ball 51 times in a season as an RB, you at least deserve a prop. So, I give him a prop for that.However, looking at his inflated YPC. I don't give him a prop for that because he's obviously in on passing situationis, hence the receptions he got that year. Now, when you're in for a passing situation and the defense expects pass and instead, you do a draw play. Getting 5 or 7 yards on that draw play when it's 3rd and 13 means very little. What's worse.....he's not even a full time guy nor has even ever been a full time guy in the pros and he can't stay healthy.Can you imagine if the Bengals went into the season thinking this is the guy who we're gonna give the ball to 25 times a game. I don't know, it's a very muddled situation. Rudi Johnson was as steady as steady goes prior to this season in rushing the ball. He was never a great receiver but he made up for it by rushing yards and double digit td's.I think Watson was impressive last year. I think spending a later pick on him is worthwhile, especially in a PPR league.

Very few RB's get 25 carries per game. Perry's receiving skills mean he could easily get 15 carries per game (projects to a respectable 240 over 16 games) and along with 4-5 catches per game that would lead to some nice fantasy numbers. That's a more likely scenario, and anyone would be happy to have that as a RB2. The question is can he stay healthy enough to do that?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Irons is the most explosive runner on the team when healthy IMHO...right now he's a huge value play. Watson is best suited in a 3rd down role and Rudi's best days may be behind him and Perry sucks.Go after Irons if you're looking for a high risk/high reward play.

Perry sucks? That's incorrect.. injury prone.. but skill wise.. he's the best RB on the team. He also has better hands than their stud receivers.

2004 he played 2 games, had zero TD and ranked 149 as RB in fantasy points.2005 He played 14 games, scored 2 Td's and did catch the ball 51 times and ranked 45 in fantasy points.2006- played 6 games, caught the ball 9 times and didn't score. Ranked 109 in fantasy points.First 3 years in the league, 2 out of 3 years he didn't score. His big year he scored 2 TD's and averages 7 games per year, which is less than half a season.Edit to add Perry has 73 career rushing attempts. He's been in 22 games, so he averages between 3 and 4 carries per game IN THE GAMES he's been in. I think it's safe to assume he's not getting 15 or even 10 carries per game anytime soon.To somehow assume he's going to triple his rushing attempts per game next year is mind boggling.Sucks is a very vague term. I think what you're saying is IF this guy could play a full season, he wouldn't suck. But you're using an IF. A lot of people could use an IF when talking about fantasy football. IF Michael Turner started an entire year, he might get 1500 yards.The bottom line IS what he has done the 3 years I posted above. For a running back, Lhucks is correct, it sucks. He has sucked since he's been in the NFL. Please make an argument for him not sucking and please don't use IF's, like IF he was healthy.

He's not saying he sucks because of his stats and fantasy numbers... he's saying he doesn't have talent. I think he does have talent. I can't say he's a stud, but you can't say he sucks either, we don't have the data to back it up because he's always been injured. My arguments for him not sucking are that he almost broke the bengals RB recieving record while backing up Rudi, and when he gets a few carries in, he's getting good yards on the attempt. He also makes a good Bengals O great. They haven't been the same on offense since 05. I just don't see how the verdict can be he sucks when we haven't seen him get his chance.

Well, any RB in the NFL has some degree of talent, so maybe he didn't have his morning coffee yet. He started for the univeristy of Michigan and did a fine job, so he does have some talent.Anytime you catch the ball 51 times in a season as an RB, you at least deserve a prop. So, I give him a prop for that.However, looking at his inflated YPC. I don't give him a prop for that because he's obviously in on passing situationis, hence the receptions he got that year. Now, when you're in for a passing situation and the defense expects pass and instead, you do a draw play. Getting 5 or 7 yards on that draw play when it's 3rd and 13 means very little. What's worse.....he's not even a full time guy nor has even ever been a full time guy in the pros and he can't stay healthy.Can you imagine if the Bengals went into the season thinking this is the guy who we're gonna give the ball to 25 times a game. I don't know, it's a very muddled situation. Rudi Johnson was as steady as steady goes prior to this season in rushing the ball. He was never a great receiver but he made up for it by rushing yards and double digit td's.I think Watson was impressive last year. I think spending a later pick on him is worthwhile, especially in a PPR league.

Very few RB's get 25 carries per game. Perry's receiving skills mean he could easily get 15 carries per game (projects to a respectable 240 over 16 games) and along with 4-5 catches per game that would lead to some nice fantasy numbers. That's a more likely scenario, and anyone would be happy to have that as a RB2. The question is can he stay healthy enough to do that?

Redman, he's got 22 games under his belt in 3 seasons. It's not realistic to project 16 game seasons with this player. 240 carries in a season for Chris Perry is a joke, I'd bet the under on 240 carries for the rest of Perry's career in the NFl.

 

[Biabreakable]

Irons is the most explosive runner on the team when healthy IMHO...right now he's a huge value play. Watson is best suited in a 3rd down role and Rudi's best days may be behind him and Perry sucks.Go after Irons if you're looking for a high risk/high reward play.

Perry sucks? That's incorrect.. injury prone.. but skill wise.. he's the best RB on the team. He also has better hands than their stud receivers.

2004 he played 2 games, had zero TD and ranked 149 as RB in fantasy points.2005 He played 14 games, scored 2 Td's and did catch the ball 51 times and ranked 45 in fantasy points.2006- played 6 games, caught the ball 9 times and didn't score. Ranked 109 in fantasy points.First 3 years in the league, 2 out of 3 years he didn't score. His big year he scored 2 TD's and averages 7 games per year, which is less than half a season.Edit to add Perry has 73 career rushing attempts. He's been in 22 games, so he averages between 3 and 4 carries per game IN THE GAMES he's been in. I think it's safe to assume he's not getting 15 or even 10 carries per game anytime soon.To somehow assume he's going to triple his rushing attempts per game next year is mind boggling.Sucks is a very vague term. I think what you're saying is IF this guy could play a full season, he wouldn't suck. But you're using an IF. A lot of people could use an IF when talking about fantasy football. IF Michael Turner started an entire year, he might get 1500 yards.The bottom line IS what he has done the 3 years I posted above. For a running back, Lhucks is correct, it sucks. He has sucked since he's been in the NFL. Please make an argument for him not sucking and please don't use IF's, like IF he was healthy.

He's not saying he sucks because of his stats and fantasy numbers... he's saying he doesn't have talent. I think he does have talent. I can't say he's a stud, but you can't say he sucks either, we don't have the data to back it up because he's always been injured. My arguments for him not sucking are that he almost broke the bengals RB recieving record while backing up Rudi, and when he gets a few carries in, he's getting good yards on the attempt. He also makes a good Bengals O great. They haven't been the same on offense since 05. I just don't see how the verdict can be he sucks when we haven't seen him get his chance.

Well, any RB in the NFL has some degree of talent, so maybe he didn't have his morning coffee yet. He started for the univeristy of Michigan and did a fine job, so he does have some talent.Anytime you catch the ball 51 times in a season as an RB, you at least deserve a prop. So, I give him a prop for that.However, looking at his inflated YPC. I don't give him a prop for that because he's obviously in on passing situationis, hence the receptions he got that year. Now, when you're in for a passing situation and the defense expects pass and instead, you do a draw play. Getting 5 or 7 yards on that draw play when it's 3rd and 13 means very little. What's worse.....he's not even a full time guy nor has even ever been a full time guy in the pros and he can't stay healthy.Can you imagine if the Bengals went into the season thinking this is the guy who we're gonna give the ball to 25 times a game. I don't know, it's a very muddled situation. Rudi Johnson was as steady as steady goes prior to this season in rushing the ball. He was never a great receiver but he made up for it by rushing yards and double digit td's.I think Watson was impressive last year. I think spending a later pick on him is worthwhile, especially in a PPR league.

Very few RB's get 25 carries per game. Perry's receiving skills mean he could easily get 15 carries per game (projects to a respectable 240 over 16 games) and along with 4-5 catches per game that would lead to some nice fantasy numbers. That's a more likely scenario, and anyone would be happy to have that as a RB2. The question is can he stay healthy enough to do that?

Redman, he's got 22 games under his belt in 3 seasons. It's not realistic to project 16 game seasons with this player. 240 carries in a season for Chris Perry is a joke, I'd bet the under on 240 carries for the rest of Perry's career in the NFl.

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[The Man With No Name]

This is also the last year of Perry's contract. If he doesn't stay healthy this season, he will be lucky to be in the league beyond 2008.

 

[Otis]

IRONS

 

[WampusCat43]

NOT THIS YEAR