Is Adrian Peterson the new Tyrone Wheatley? (1 Viewer)

[Liquid Tension]

George and Dickerson are obvious comparisons when you look at taller backs. What do you guys think of a comparison to Steven Jackson? How are AP's hands?

BTW, I wonder if Brandon Jacobs even deserves mentioning in this group? Obviously, not in terms of Dickerson's and George's careers, but in terms of style etc...

Thoughts?

I just saw LHucks question about Jackson as well. I thought Chris Brown reminded me of George, but obviously has not been durable. I looked at Steven Jackson and saw a guy who I thought would get injured because of his upright style and playing on turf. I thought great talent, but would get big and a little too slow. He developed very nicely this year and looks like a beast. If he is driven and appears so, he could be good for a long time.

 

[Irish]

Anybody know how George's 40 times compare to Peterson's?

I would guess Peterson is faster, but am not sure by how much.

Just found this at Wikipedia...

Peterson is 6'2" about 225 pounds, 40 time reported between 4:35-4:45 [citation needed] and is often compared to Eric Dickerson.

I personally think he looks more like George than Dickerson when he runs the ball. If he indeed runs a 4.35 he's definitely faster than George.

I think he runs "heavier" than Dickerson. He may be better compared to Jamal Lewis, who IMHO had more breakaway speed than did George but also ran (and runs) physically like Peterson. Obviously, Peterson is not as stocky as Lewis, but I'm simply comparing running style.Here's another thought: how would you compare him to Steven Jackson?

I keep thinking of George because of his height and upright running style...George was faster than people realize.Peterson is more physical than Dickerson but Dickerson has such a unique, gliding style I don't thinks its a perfect match.

Jackson doesn't run as upright.

Lewis is a pretty good comparison although I doubt AP will be as physical as Lewis is in the NFL.

Chris Brown definitely isn't as physical, but has a similar skillset IMHO.

There really doesn't seem to be too many comparisons because there aren't a lot of 6'2" RBs with AP's skills. It will be interesting to see how he fares at the next level. I think he's a lock to be a solid player, but not the great player some might expect. I personally believe Lynch has more upside.

I am shocked. What conference did Lynch play in?

 

[Colin Dowling]

Peterson is better between the tacjkes then Jackson was at a similar point, and a marginally worse receiver at a similar point.

 

[Zigg]

I havn't seen much of Peterson, but from I've seen I havn't been that impressed. I just don't see a running "skill" from him. He strikes me as someone who relies 100% of being big and fast, but dosn't have the intangible "it" that good RBs do. He has zero elusiveness until he gets to full speed, and that's a bad thing for a back.

People fall in love with the measurables, and he most certainly has them. He has excelled at every level so far because he was physically dominant. I just don't see it carrying over to the pros. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll be a good pro, but he'll never be great. There is a big difference between a great runner, and a great running back.

 

[Biabreakable]

I havn't seen much of Peterson, but from I've seen I havn't been that impressed. I just don't see a running "skill" from him. He strikes me as someone who relies 100% of being big and fast, but dosn't have the intangible "it" that good RBs do. He has zero elusiveness until he gets to full speed, and that's a bad thing for a back. People fall in love with the measurables, and he most certainly has them. He has excelled at every level so far because he was physically dominant. I just don't see it carrying over to the pros. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll be a good pro, but he'll never be great. There is a big difference between a great runner, and a great running back.

I tend to agree. I have not seen enough of him to really make this judgement however. What I have seen are the highlight reels on him so that should include some of his most amazing runs right? Well what I saw from those highlight reels did not show me any plays where he used agility and change of direction to make a play against a defense that had him bottled up. The big plays were fast bursts through a hole in the middle with no defender wrapping him up at the 2nd level or plays where he beats all the defenders to the sidelines.He is definitly very fast and that is a good thing. But I didn't see any plays where he picked his way through trash.Like I said I have not seen much from him. But early comparisons of highlight reels of him I was not as impressed as what I saw from Lynch or DeAngelo Williams. And a lot of people were critical of DeAngelo Williams always breaking plays outside. No similar criticism of Peterson doing the same thing?

 

[Seymour Corn]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

 

[jamil]

i'd say he's as advertised.

 

[Ed Wood]

...I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. All the ability, but no fire.

Thoughts?

My thought is it's a shame you've never seen Peterson play. Ask the SD defense about his lack of fire.My thought is if you have seen Peterson play, you need to get the prescription checked on your glasses.

My thought is if you don't have glasses, it's time to get some.

Carry on.

 

[dickey moe]

i'd say he's as advertised.

Exactly. He's awesome... when not injured.

 

[bcr8f]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.

Thoughts?

No fire?

I think he may have too much fire. He runs very hard and that may be his downfall unless he can adjust.

 

[daveandken]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

 

[Christo]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

Who the hell looks at the date of the thread?It should never have been bumped.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

Who the hell looks at the date of the thread?It should never have been bumped.

Seems timely, no?

 

[Christo]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

Who the hell looks at the date of the thread?It should never have been bumped.

Seems timely, no?

No

 

[Seymour Corn]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

Who the hell looks at the date of the thread?It should never have been bumped.

Seems timely, no?

No

Do you follow American football?

 

[Avery]

Perhaps the only thing more fatuous then bumping someone else's crappy prediction is bumping your own crappy prediction.

On that note, If I started a thread comparing Peterson to Wheatly, I'd sure as Hell wouldn't bump it back up and draw attention to what is clearly a crappy comparison.

 

[Seymour Corn]

Perhaps the only thing more fatuous then bumping someone else's crappy prediction is bumping your own crappy prediction.On that note, If I started a thread comparing Peterson to Wheatly, I'd sure as Hell wouldn't bump it back up and draw attention to what is clearly a crappy comparison.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

Who the hell looks at the date of the thread?It should never have been bumped.

Seems timely, no?

If you think that now is a good time to remind people that you don't know jack about football, then yes this is a timely bump. Otherwise not so much.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

Who the hell looks at the date of the thread?It should never have been bumped.

Seems timely, no?

If you think that now is a good time to remind people that you don't know jack about football, then yes this is a timely bump. Otherwise not so much.

Seems timely to put you on ignore for bumping a useless thread.

 

[NatronIsMean]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

Yeah right. First, the fire is obviously there, and he's ALREADY proven "he's arrived", getting the single f'in game rushing record. As for injuries, "huge" call on that one. LoL. We knew he could get injured, but it's not like that's an amazing phenomenon among RBs anyway.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

Who the hell looks at the date of the thread?It should never have been bumped.

Seems timely, no?

If you think that now is a good time to remind people that you don't know jack about football, then yes this is a timely bump. Otherwise not so much.

Seems timely to put you on ignore for bumping a useless thread.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

Yeah right. First, the fire is obviously there, and he's ALREADY proven "he's arrived", getting the single f'in game rushing record. As for injuries, "huge" call on that one. LoL. We knew he could get injured, but it's not like that's an amazing phenomenon among RBs anyway.

This is funny 'cause he's on your team.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I love how people are replying to posts from December as if they were from today.

Who the hell looks at the date of the thread?It should never have been bumped.

Seems timely, no?

If you think that now is a good time to remind people that you don't know jack about football, then yes this is a timely bump. Otherwise not so much.

Well played!

 

[Johnny Ice]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

I would have respected you more if you bumped this after he set the NFL single game rushing record. How close did Wheatley come to that?

 

[Seymour Corn]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

I would have respected you more if you bumped this after he set the NFL single game rushing record. How close did Wheatley come to that?

As you choose to compare production, I choose to compare likelyhood of injury.

 

[Avery]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

I would have respected you more if you bumped this after he set the NFL single game rushing record. How close did Wheatley come to that?

As you choose to compare production, I choose to compare likelyhood of injury.

You have no idea whose likely to get injured.Just because a bird took a crap on your head a couple of times doesn't mean it's any more likely for it to happen again.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Two pages of comparing ADP with Tyrone Wheatley? I will follow up a thread comparing LT with Tim Biakabutuka.

 

[Da Guru]

Mark it down ADP will never play a full season in the NFL.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

I would have respected you more if you bumped this after he set the NFL single game rushing record. How close did Wheatley come to that?

As you choose to compare production, I choose to compare likelyhood of injury.

You have no idea whose likely to get injured.Just because a bird took a crap on your head a couple of times doesn't mean it's any more likely for it to happen again.

Not true. That's why the term 'injury prone' is used to describe some players, like Tim Biakabatuka.

 

[jamil]

Mark it down ADP will never play a full season in the NFL.

just imagine if he did. he would need his own record book.

 

[Avery]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

I would have respected you more if you bumped this after he set the NFL single game rushing record. How close did Wheatley come to that?

As you choose to compare production, I choose to compare likelyhood of injury.

You have no idea whose likely to get injured.Just because a bird took a crap on your head a couple of times doesn't mean it's any more likely for it to happen again.

Not true. That's why the term 'injury prone' is used to describe some players, like Tim Biakabatuka.

There's also the term "smart as a whip", but that doesn't mean that whips are highly intelligent.

 

[Seymour Corn]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

I would have respected you more if you bumped this after he set the NFL single game rushing record. How close did Wheatley come to that?

As you choose to compare production, I choose to compare likelyhood of injury.

You have no idea whose likely to get injured.Just because a bird took a crap on your head a couple of times doesn't mean it's any more likely for it to happen again.

Not true. That's why the term 'injury prone' is used to describe some players, like Tim Biakabatuka.

There's also the term "smart as a whip", but that doesn't mean that whips are highly intelligent.

Keep on truckin'.

 

[Da Guru]

Mark it down ADP will never play a full season in the NFL.

just imagine if he did. he would need his own record book.

If Minny had a QB and ADP played 16 games, you may be right!

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Tyrone Wheatley in his first 8 NFL games (he seems to have been a healthy scratch weeks 1 and 2, so not counting those):

56-207 rushing, 13 receiving, 3 touchdowns.

Yes, I can see the comparison.

Actually, here is a stat that proves the OP's point rather definitively:

Tyrone Wheatley's best season in yards and touchdowns: 1046 rush, 156 rec, 10 TD

Adrian Peterson's best season in yards and touchdowns: 1081 rush, 220 rec, 9 TD

 

[NatronIsMean]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

Uh Oh

Yeah right. First, the fire is obviously there, and he's ALREADY proven "he's arrived", getting the single f'in game rushing record. As for injuries, "huge" call on that one. LoL. We knew he could get injured, but it's not like that's an amazing phenomenon among RBs anyway.

This is funny 'cause he's on your team.

Yes, I put my cards on the table. That makes the opinion less valid because...? And as a 3rd rounder that I get to keep in my keeper league, It's really not that funny to anyone else in my league. But laugh it up - the Wheatley comparison has the rest of us laughing our arses off!

 

[King of the Jungle]

Somebody has to teach the kid how to fall, when to go out of bounds, and to run lower to the ground. He cannot continue to have the "Me Against the World" mentality. Thanks Pac.

Kid is special as they come...not in a Corky way though.

 

[jamil]

Somebody has to teach the kid how to fall, when to go out of bounds, and to run lower to the ground. He cannot continue to have the "Me Against the World" mentality. Thanks Pac.Kid is special as they come...not in a Corky way though.

somebody needs to teach him to not have knees?

 

[Fantaholic]

I think Bo Jackson may be a better comparison to Peterson when it's all said and done. Personally, I think it's insulting to AP to put he and Wheatley in the same sentence. And yes, I am predicting that AP's intense running style will lead to a short NFL career.

 

[barg]

I'd like to know what you think. I just have a gut feeling that Peterson (OU) is just like Wheatley. Incredible physical size and skills. All the ability, but no fire. Injury prone and just never meeting the huge (perhaps unreasonable) potential.Thoughts?

I'm sorry but comparing Wheatley and ADP is a little ridiculous. Lets compare ADP's 9 GAME career vs Tyrone's 10 year career.FACT: ADP has more rushing yards in a single game than Tyrone Wheatley had his entire rookie season. 296 vs 245FACT: ADP has more rushing yards in a single season than Tyrone Wheatley ever had in any of his 10 seasons. 1081 vs 1045FACT: ADP averages 6.4 yards a carry while Wheatley averaged 3.9 yards his career (breaking 4 yards twice).so uhh NO WAY lolLike others said Bo Jackson might be a better comparison...

 

[az_prof]

I saw Tyrone Wheatley play...and Tyrone is NO Adrian Peterson.