What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Is ASYS (Always Start Your Studs) On Its Way Out? (1 Viewer)

whodeywhodey

Footballguy
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.

As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".

Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???

I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.

Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?

 
I plan on starting Rice, Best, and Austin every week they play. Maybe Welker too, but I am a little concerned about him.

 
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
If you want to win more games than you lose...ALWAYS START YOUR STUDS. Some people overthink it and blow their seasons dont be one of those guys.
 
In general, I think you should start your studs; that being said, there are two things to consider. One, every year some top-drafted players have terrible years. There's a point at which you have to be willing to sit them and acknowledge that continuing to plug them in there may be costing you victories. Two, sometimes matchups are bad enough that it makes complete sense. For example, someone sitting a stud receiver going up against Revis last year had good reasons for doing so--and judging by the way he shut a lot of them down, it would have been a wise decision.

 
I would say too often, draft status determines who your studs are and that moniker sticks longer than perhaps it should in some cases. On the other end of the spectrum at what point did Sidney Rice become a stud last year? For the most part, he was either drafted late or not at all. If you are going to follow this philosophy, its important to continually evaluate who your studs are and are not. In some cases people aren't starting their studs and don't even realize it.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Throughout this season studs will lose their stud status but it's week 1 so if you drafted players early then they should be in your lineup regardless of matchup.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I would say too often, draft status determines who your studs are and that moniker sticks longer than perhaps it should in some cases. On the other end of the spectrum at what point did Sidney Rice become a stud last year? For the most part, he was either drafted late or not at all. If you are going to follow this philosophy, its important to continually evaluate who your studs are and are not. In some cases people aren't starting their studs and don't even realize it.
:goodposting: Constantly evaluate your roster. Down to the last man and decide who they are. They are who you think they are.
 
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
If designating certain players as "above consideration of matchups" makes someone a dinosaur, then call me Ssogosaurus.
 
I would say too often, draft status determines who your studs are and that moniker sticks longer than perhaps it should in some cases. On the other end of the spectrum at what point did Sidney Rice become a stud last year? For the most part, he was either drafted late or not at all. If you are going to follow this philosophy, its important to continually evaluate who your studs are and are not. In some cases people aren't starting their studs and don't even realize it.
If you define a stud as someone who you always play week after week no matter what, but you're continually evaluating and changing who your studs are based on new data...then you're not starting them week after week no matter what. The word "stud" has a completely subjective definition and is next to meaningless. I would never box myself into saying there are players I would never bench no matter what the circumstances. If Chris Johnson were on my team, would I play him from Week 1 to 16 no matter what? Probably, but not 100% definitely. I might have a guy behind him about to have a historic 2500 yd. rushing season. Or he might be playing injured. Or he may just start sucking, a la Matt Forte last year. It would be stupid of me to ignore changing facts and circumstances to stroke my ego by stubbornly playing the players I drafted highest.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
The guys I drafted keep their draft status for a very short period of time, less than 3 weeks. Then I start lookin at them through a different prism. Has their situation changed? Is it just early tough schedule?

Ask yourself, when trying to make a trade and other owners are holding onto preseason value well into the season when it just doesn't make sense anymore is it frustrating? Are you that guy? Behind the curve and ready to down with the ship?

I don't wanna be that guy so I try to take a fresh look at my guys several times a week. It makes for a more nimble stance and often those who hang on to those preseason values are in the bottom half of my league. It's a quick season and you just dont have the luxury of that time.

 
Well people already said it very well, but to agree:

Always start your studs.

But who are your studs?

I think with a lot of RB situations nowadays the 'who are your studs' question becomes VERY tricky. You might even argue that past CJ, AP, MJD, Rice, Turner and Gore, there are no RB 'studs' ( I wouldn't, but you can make the argument with a straight face).

 
I've got Boldin in one of my leagues and normally I'd ink him into my week 1 lineups but Revis scares the schnikes out of me. I'm thin at WR so I'm not benching him and hoping he's rusty from the holdout, but Revis (and to a lesser extent Asomugha) was so other-worldly last year in shutting down #1s that you have to take it into consideration and I wouldn't fault an owner for benching a WR1 vs. Revis for a WR3 or deeper with upside or great matchup.

 
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
If designating certain players as "above consideration of matchups" makes someone a dinosaur, then call me Ssogosaurus.
How long have u been waiting to use that?
 
When facing an elite defense, many elite players step up to the challenge. Many times, when faced with a tough defense, coordinators will put game plans on the shoulders of their studs. Certain guys should be considered "unbenchable". Sure Revis kind of shut down even Randy Moss last year but in their second game Moss still had 5 catches and a touchdown. I'd hate to have that on the bench. You'll never regret starting a stud and see one of your bench guys have a big game; "Oh well, who would have known...". But you'll sure as hell kick yourself watching a benched stud go off.

 
You'll never regret starting a stud and see one of your bench guys have a big game; "Oh well, who would have known...". But you'll sure as hell kick yourself watching a benched stud go off.
This has always been my thought.I ask myself, "Which player would have me feeling more like an idiot if he blew up on my bench?" I've seen owners victimized by over-managing plenty of times.
 
The word 'stud' is used too freely. There aren't nearly as many of them as we tend to think.

I would certainly bench many, if not most, of my players if I had a quality alternative with a fantastic matchup.

Fbg's isn't about always starting your studs. It's about using actual facts instead of groupthink to put forth the best *probable* starting lineup.

Statistics don't lie...matchups play a HUGE role in how a player generally performs.

 
In an attempt to be seen as the "knowledgeable shark" in the league, some owners believe that hitting on one of their "calculated risks" puts them above their competition... they'll be seen as the wisest in the land...

and once and a whole they'll be right.

but oh how often they fail...

 
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
If designating certain players as "above consideration of matchups" makes someone a dinosaur, then call me Ssogosaurus.
How long have u been waiting to use that?
Ummm... about 15 seconds, or however long it took me to type out my reply after reading the first post.
I always start the guys I expect to score the most points.
I don't. I always start the guys I expect to give me the highest likelihood of winning.
 
You'll never regret starting a stud and see one of your bench guys have a big game; "Oh well, who would have known...". But you'll sure as hell kick yourself watching a benched stud go off.
This has always been my thought.I ask myself, "Which player would have me feeling more like an idiot if he blew up on my bench?" I've seen owners victimized by over-managing plenty of times.
There's plenty of over managing in most leagues and we tend to profit from it. Particularly if it's not backed up by numbers and involves a hunch. And occasionally those do work out.I'll admit I trot out my main guys in the first 2 games of the season without reservation. Reason? Not enough info yet.Things do muddy up a little at the quarter pole though. And you know they are going to. Since you play this game long enough and you start to expect things to become clearer at certain points in the year. This is a good place to look hard at your roster.At the quarter pole I make decisions without regard to draft status and whether I'll feel like an idiot or not. The gloves are off now. Let's go. But I admit I'll peek at the history more than a bit so I can at least justify those choices to myself. :thumbup:
 
I ask myself, "Which player would have me feeling more like an idiot if he blew up on my bench?" I've seen owners victimized by over-managing plenty of times.
I've been so guilty of that, literally costing myself playoff berths and championships. It wasn't just lineups; it was also dropping guys onto waivers way too early, making dumb trade offers, and reaching for "sleepers" in drafts. I've switched to a much more conservative game plan the last few years and have been much more successful because of it.BTW, regarding the waiver mistakes, I have to say that the podcast on this site is ENORMOUSLY helpful when it comes to evaluating whether or not a particular week's outcomes is indicative of some sort of long term trend necessitating action or just an aberration. Those guys really know their players.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
if you have a deep bench, sometimes matchups work better? ASYS ignores defense.
 
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
If designating certain players as "above consideration of matchups" makes someone a dinosaur, then call me Ssogosaurus.
i dont think the top 30-36 players drafted should be considered untouchable insta starters. top 10 sure. but players like charles best foster grant forte pierre benson definitely deserve the bench at times.studs to always start regardless of mathcup: ap, cj, mjd, gore, rice turner sjax greene deangleo brees brady rodgers manning romo schaub rivers andre calvin moss wayne white desean jennings colston steve smith fitz marshall welker.
 
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
If designating certain players as "above consideration of matchups" makes someone a dinosaur, then call me Ssogosaurus.
i dont think the top 30-36 players drafted should be considered untouchable insta starters. top 10 sure. but players like charles best foster grant forte pierre benson definitely deserve the bench at times.studs to always start regardless of mathcup: ap, cj, mjd, gore, rice turner sjax greene deangleo brees brady rodgers manning romo schaub rivers andre calvin moss wayne white desean jennings colston steve smith fitz marshall welker.
I think that, during the first two weeks at least, the top 36 guys should be untouchable insta-starters. Not only were they drafted that high to be a cornerstone of your team, but the simple fact is that we really have no clue at this stage of the season which matchups will prove to be "bad" matchups.My first 6 draft picks are starting in every league this week. No questions in my mind.
 
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
I think most people do ASYS. The problem comes when people think they have more studs then they actually do. Yes, I would always start AJ, Calvin, Fitz, CJ, AD, Rice every week. Shonne Green, mendenhall, crabtree are not studs yet imo. I wouldnt start Green this week over Best or Spiller. Just because those guys are rookies doesnt mean they cant become studs very quickly...
 
I always start my studs. That is why you draft a solid starting lineup. There is no feeling worse than watching your stud blow up- on your bench. Sure, they are going to have bad games but you have to ride the wave. Fantasy football is about consistent team production each week. I see teams draft 6 really good WR and only one or two weak RB and they have a problem on their hands guessing who to start each week. As it pertains to this conversation, your "studs" are your players who are clearly better than your other options. If you have two similar players, like Beanie Wells and Knowshon Moreno, you have to look at the matchup and then see who is performing better by week four. If you have Steve Smith at WR and Jeremy Maclin, I would consider Smith your stud and Maclin a bench player. As a previous poster mentioned, studs can lose their status during the season and other players can become studs. Early last season, Chris Johnson wasn't considered a stud the first week because people were worried about Lendale White. Obviously, CJ was a must start virtually the entire season. Jamal Charles is going through a similar situation, although most expect Charles to be the more valuable back of the two and be a stud regardless.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I don't think it's on it's way out. I just think people have a different interpretation of who studs are.

 
I always start the guys I expect to score the most points.
I can't believe you gave this nugget away for free. I would expect it to be subscriber content.
I thought it was dead-on-balls-accurate to the point. Cliches don't win fantasy games, points do.That it needed to be said was validated by the fact that someone almost immediately challenged it with something they thought was equally profound (but I didn't understand at all). In what situation does scoring fewer points ever help you win?
 
I do think ASYS is the right approach, particularly early on in the season. Mainly because predicting defenses early on is largely a fools errand AND the notion the star players do their best in games against easy defenses and are limited against top ones simply isn't a linear enough chain of outcomes to bank on. But there are limits. I have many rosters where I might view my WR3 and WR4 equivalently or see my Flex RB as being a choice between two guys, in which case it makes all the sense in the world to play match ups.

What I wouldn't do is bench a guy like Randy Moss or Miles Austin for the likes of Lee Evans or Steve Breaston simply bc the latter pair seem to have easier defenses opposing them.

 
I do think ASYS is the right approach, particularly early on in the season. Mainly because predicting defenses early on is largely a fools errand AND the notion the star players do their best in games against easy defenses and are limited against top ones simply isn't a linear enough chain of outcomes to bank on. But there are limits. I have many rosters where I might view my WR3 and WR4 equivalently or see my Flex RB as being a choice between two guys, in which case it makes all the sense in the world to play match ups.What I wouldn't do is bench a guy like Randy Moss or Miles Austin for the likes of Lee Evans or Steve Breaston simply bc the latter pair seem to have easier defenses opposing them.
While I agree with your take right now, those are two very illuminating examples of studs. Was Moss a stud in Oakland the first year? How long did ASYS apply to Moss that year? He's a prime example of why ASYS (emphasis on the always) simply doesn't make sense. Austin is now a sure fire stud according to almost everyone including me. But at what point did he become a "stud"? At what point do you start benching other, former studs for Miles Austin? Say you had Calvin Johnson, Miles Austin and Roddy White last year (very conceivable). You were way better off playing Austin than Johnson for the most part, but isn't Johnson a stud?How long did folks hold out hope for Royal last year after taking him pretty high? It was a little early to consider him a stud after one season (aint hindsight grand), but many folks did take him pretty high.After the first couple of weeks, draft position means very little to me, and I'll simply try to go with the best player in the best situation every week. I really don't need "guiding principles" like ASYS to help me with that.All that said, if the simpler, primary point is that you shouldn't over-think matchups - I can get behind that a bit.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I always start the guys I expect to score the most points.
I can't believe you gave this nugget away for free. I would expect it to be subscriber content.
I thought it was dead-on-balls-accurate to the point. Cliches don't win fantasy games, points do.That it needed to be said was validated by the fact that someone almost immediately challenged it with something they thought was equally profound (but I didn't understand at all). In what situation does scoring fewer points ever help you win?
Exactly.This time 2 years ago I posted on another site that I was going to start Chris Johnson, a rookie and my 8th round pick, over MJD, my 2nd round pick. Of course, the typical responses were "Always start your studs" and "Why draft someone in the 2nd if you are going to bench them."

But I simply thought Johnson would score more points that week. MJD had struggles against the Titans the year before and I thought Johnson's speed would give the Jags problems. Plus I wanted to unveil my rookie who I had been high on all summer.

Well, CJ outscored MJD significantly that day and the decision was the right one. I also agree with what some others have said in that there simply arent as many studs out there as there use to be.

This year I have one stud who I will not sit as long as he's healthy. Ironically, his name is CJ2k. After him, every player on my roster is competing for playing time each week.

 
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.As I peruse around these forum I see numerous posts about sitting player X (top 3 round player) for player Y (4-10 round player). The reason for sitting the stud is usually cited as "schedule" or "matchup" or "just a gut feeling".Really? Whatever happened to ASYS???I am starting my best players regardless of their matchups each and every week.Am I an ancient dinosaur who is just wrong here?
If designating certain players as "above consideration of matchups" makes someone a dinosaur, then call me Ssogosaurus.
I love this guy. Just common sense 100% of the time mingled with sharp, sardonic wit.
 
I always start the guys I expect to score the most points.
I can't believe you gave this nugget away for free. I would expect it to be subscriber content.
I thought it was dead-on-balls-accurate to the point. Cliches don't win fantasy games, points do.That it needed to be said was validated by the fact that someone almost immediately challenged it with something they thought was equally profound (but I didn't understand at all). In what situation does scoring fewer points ever help you win?
Exactly.This time 2 years ago I posted on another site that I was going to start Chris Johnson, a rookie and my 8th round pick, over MJD, my 2nd round pick. Of course, the typical responses were "Always start your studs" and "Why draft someone in the 2nd if you are going to bench them."

But I simply thought Johnson would score more points that week. MJD had struggles against the Titans the year before and I thought Johnson's speed would give the Jags problems. Plus I wanted to unveil my rookie who I had been high on all summer.

Well, CJ outscored MJD significantly that day and the decision was the right one. I also agree with what some others have said in that there simply arent as many studs out there as there use to be.

This year I have one stud who I will not sit as long as he's healthy. Ironically, his name is CJ2k. After him, every player on my roster is competing for playing time each week.
This part isnt entirely true as Im pretty sure what my starting lineup will be each week at this point. But it sounded good.And the larger point is I start who I think will score the most points that week. More times than not it will be my "studs" but words like always and never can get you in trouble.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I do think ASYS is the right approach, particularly early on in the season. Mainly because predicting defenses early on is largely a fools errand AND the notion the star players do their best in games against easy defenses and are limited against top ones simply isn't a linear enough chain of outcomes to bank on. But there are limits. I have many rosters where I might view my WR3 and WR4 equivalently or see my Flex RB as being a choice between two guys, in which case it makes all the sense in the world to play match ups.What I wouldn't do is bench a guy like Randy Moss or Miles Austin for the likes of Lee Evans or Steve Breaston simply bc the latter pair seem to have easier defenses opposing them.
While I agree with your take right now, those are two very illuminating examples of studs. Was Moss a stud in Oakland the first year? How long did ASYS apply to Moss that year? He's a prime example of why ASYS (emphasis on the always) simply doesn't make sense. Austin is now a sure fire stud according to almost everyone including me. But at what point did he become a "stud"? At what point do you start benching other, former studs for Miles Austin? Say you had Calvin Johnson, Miles Austin and Roddy White last year (very conceivable). You were way better off playing Austin than Johnson for the most part, but isn't Johnson a stud?How long did folks hold out hope for Royal last year after taking him pretty high? It was a little early to consider him a stud after one season (aint hindsight grand), but many folks did take him pretty high.After the first couple of weeks, draft position means very little to me, and I'll simply try to go with the best player in the best situation every week. I really don't need "guiding principles" like ASYS to help me with that.All that said, if the simpler, primary point is that you shouldn't over-think matchups - I can get behind that a bit.
I would say the litmus test on studs is 3 - 4 weeks. Part of the problem is that we assign too many guys the status of stud. I am guilty of that much of the time.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I just reviewed My FBG for one of my team this year, my entry into the IBL Challenge representing FootballGuys. Number one reason for the comment is IF you are a member here and do not enter all your teams in that program you are missing out on some outstanding information. You can link it directly to the information stored on the MFL league site and in addition to indicating where your roster players are projected for the week, it also indicates the available free agents, simply an amazing tool.

Now, back to my example with my team. In this league I have Bowe, Harvin, Steve Smith (Car), and Santana Moss among other WRs. The projections for this week provided:

7) Dwayne Bowe

16) Percy Harvin

21) Steve Smith

37) Santana Moss

I use these projections to view DD's opinions, but I doubted Percy Harvin as he was starting in a new role on the road and had not had chance to work much with Favre. I also expected the Saints secondary to be pretty good this year. Went with Bowe, Smith, and Moss. May regret it, but I expected Smith and Moss to outperform Harvin.

Always evaluate yourself and make your own decisions as it is your team.

Still don't understand the reply to the "start the guys you expect to score the most points" comment and waiting for explanation.

Nice thread and discussion here going on.

 
I think that, during the first two weeks at least, the top 36 guys should be untouchable insta-starters. Not only were they drafted that high to be a cornerstone of your team, but the simple fact is that we really have no clue at this stage of the season which matchups will prove to be "bad" matchups.My first 6 draft picks are starting in every league this week. No questions in my mind.
I think dynasty leagues can muddy the waters further here.Even if you're a proponent of ASYS, especially in the early season as things shake out, things become less clear when you can't clearly say who your first six picks or who your studs are.
 
I thought it was dead-on-balls-accurate to the point. Cliches don't win fantasy games, points do.That it needed to be said was validated by the fact that someone almost immediately challenged it with something they thought was equally profound (but I didn't understand at all). In what situation does scoring fewer points ever help you win?
I always start the guys I expect to score the most points.
I don't. I always start the guys I expect to give me the highest likelihood of winning.
I'd love to hear further explanation of this.I know your a statistical zealot, so are we in the realm of "likely outcome" vs "improbably but possible outcome"?
Situation #1: It's Monday afternoon, you have a 1 point lead over your competitor, and all of his players are done for the week. All of your players have played except for your RB. You have a choice between starting two different players. One is Adrian Peterson, and one is Ben Tate. Assuming your league doesn't penalize you for starting players on IR, and assuming that fumbles are worth negative points, who is the smart play, here?Well, I would expect Adrian Peterson to score way more points than Ben Tate. Really, it's not even close. Peterson would likely DEMOLISH Tate. With that said, if I start Ben Tate, I have a 100% chance of winning. If I start Adrian Peterson, I have a 99% chance of him winning, and a 1% chance of something absolutely crazy happening, such as Peterson fumbling on his first carry, getting injured, and not returning to the game. Remember his 14 rushes for 3 yards game against San Fran his rookie year? If he fumbled, he would have scored negative points and lost me the game. In this case, starting the guy I expect to score fewer points increases my chances of winning.Situation #2: The Vikings are playing the Saints, and my opponent has drafted every Saint on the planet. His starting lineup is Drew Brees, Pierre Thomas, Reggie Bush, Marques Colston, Devery Henderson, Robert Meachem, Jeremy Shockey, and Garrett Hartley. I happen to own the Vikings defense, as well as some other mediocre defense, and the scoring is extremely dependent on points allowed and yardage allowed. In this case, even if I have the Vikings defense rated highly, I should start my other defense. If the Vikings defense performs well, his entire team is going to blow that week, so I won't need the points that that defense provides. If his team scores a ton of points and I need my defense to step up, the Vikings defense will be getting hammered and possibly even providing a negative score. In this case, starting your "worse" defense should be an absolute no-brainer.At the end of the day, unless you're playing in a total points or all-play league, or you're playing in a league that offers cash prizes to the weekly high scorer, the goal is NOT to score the most points, the goal is to score more points than your opponent. It's a key distinction. Some strategies that maximize your expected point output do NOT maximize your chances of outscoring your opponent.Now, situations where I'm intentionally not maximizing my scoring potential are rare, but I'd say I find myself in Situation #1 a half dozen times per season, and if there's no real rule against it, I'll frequently pick up and start a player that's already been ruled out for the games just to guarantee myself the win. Situation #2 is much rarer, but there have still been times where I have allowed my opponent's team to influence my own starting lineup, and most especially to influence which defense I choose to start. I don't like starting a defense that's facing a lot of his players, simply because while the expected value of the start might be high, the points it scores won't be "timely"- either that defense will score a lot of points in what was already a blowout win for me, or else it'll score very few points in a close game for me. Neither alternative really helps me at all.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
It depends on who I see as a stud. AP or Rice I'll play every week no matter who they face, especially in week 1 but if I had Michael Turner this week I'd consider someone else.

 
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=553639

Of course you have to play the match ups, but to do that before week 3 or 4 is pretty ludacris in my opinion.
Really? I mean if there's a ton of turnover, yeah. But benching a 'stud' back vs some of the ravens teams of the last decade week 1 might have been the right move. Similarly, I'd be reticent about starting any ravens, with the exception or rice, who will just get enough touches to justify the start whether by air or ground.I mentioned in another thread I am thinking of sitting a 'stud' named Tom Brady. Largely because of the excellent secondary(most of which including the defenseive 'stud' cb's are still back from a pretty good pass d a year ago) . But that is only because I have a deep bench, and the Cutler vs young but ready to get swiss cheesed Detroit Defense.

I wouldn't do it if the other matchup wasn't so juicy, and I haven't decided yet, but I am strongly on the fence on this one.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
the only top five pick to even think about sitting (this week) is Boldin.

ASYS is still the rule, but in that context "stud" needs to be fairly strictly defined. TOp 6 RB, top 10 WR, top 5 QB, top 5 TE.

Guys in the tiers right after them are semi-studs...start UNLESS they have a particularly BAAAAAAAD matchup AND you have a particularly GOOD matchup on the bench. Boldin this week fits that description perfectly. I'd have no problem sitting him for the likes of Crabtree or Gaffney.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top