Is Charles Rogers done as a NFL player? (1 Viewer)

[Da Guru]

Rogers has visited the Dolphins, Bucs and the Vikings without a deal being offered.

Will the former #2 pick just fade away from football?

There was something in a Flint paper that said that Rogers hoped the Lions would cut him because he had already pocketed his big bonus and then he could sign a huge deal with another NFL team.

If Rogers gets more than the minimum I would be very suprised.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

i think if rogers were signed before the season had started, team is on the hook for a whole season, but if they get him after week one, he can be cut at any time & he just gets paid on a prorated basis...

i'd be a little surprised if he isn't with a team this time next week... whether he does anything is another question... it isn't helping that he is one blunt away from a one year unpaid vacation on the league...

 

[fosio]

i think if rogers were signed before the season had started, team is on the hook for a whole season, but if they get him after week one, he can be cut at any time & he just gets paid on a prorated basis...i'd be a little surprised if he isn't with a team this time next week... whether he does anything is another question... it isn't helping that he is one blunt away from a one year unpaid vacation on the league...

My Thoughts exactly...could be the same with someone like David Boston. I wouldn't be surprised to see quite a few free agent signings after Week 1 is completed.

 

[Maelstrom]

i think if rogers were signed before the season had started, team is on the hook for a whole season, but if they get him after week one, he can be cut at any time & he just gets paid on a prorated basis...i'd be a little surprised if he isn't with a team this time next week... whether he does anything is another question... it isn't helping that he is one blunt away from a one year unpaid vacation on the league...

This is why I haven't dropped him in a dynasty league yet. Figure if he doesn't have a job in a week or two then he probably is done.

 

[johns560]

Rogers will sign with someone soon enough. Too much talent.

 

[whoknew]

The Lions beat writer wrote the other day that he hasn't seen Rogers speed there like it used to be.

LivoniaLion: Tom, the only one Q i have on CROG is that when he came into the league,what did he do then that he isn't doing now? Did he just get drafted because he was fast? Because if the speed wasn't there he was worthless?

Tom Kowalski: I've been saying for two years that I haven't seen Rogers' speed. The first two training camps, yes, he was blinding fast. The last two? Nothing. And, trust me, the players and coaches noticed it. If he still had that 4.3 speed, he wouldn't be sitting at home right now. Where did that speed go? I have no idea.

 

[johns560]

The Lions organization has that effect on its players.

 

[Maelstrom]

The Lions beat writer wrote the other day that he hasn't seen Rogers speed there like it used to be. LivoniaLion: Tom, the only one Q i have on CROG is that when he came into the league,what did he do then that he isn't doing now? Did he just get drafted because he was fast? Because if the speed wasn't there he was worthless?Tom Kowalski: I've been saying for two years that I haven't seen Rogers' speed. The first two training camps, yes, he was blinding fast. The last two? Nothing. And, trust me, the players and coaches noticed it. If he still had that 4.3 speed, he wouldn't be sitting at home right now. Where did that speed go? I have no idea.

No chance he was sandbagging to get the Lions to release him? It can't have been going on for that long, could it.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

He will be in the CFL before long.

 

[whoknew]

Speaking of the CFL, I had NO clue that Marcus Allen's brother was a CFL legend. Never heard of him until last week.

 

[Tick]

I bet he gets the Peerless Price treatment - some team signs him after week 1, then doesn't let him do much all year. It's next offseason where someone will give him a shot to go through an entire training camp and see what he's worth.

 

[Da Guru]

No Charlie sightings yet??

 

[Beaumont]

No Charlie sightings yet??

Dolphins | Rogers works outTue, 12 Sep 2006 19:37:28 -0700ESPNews reports the Miami Dolphins worked out free agent WR Charles Rogers (Lions) Tuesday, Sept. 12.

 

[cracKer]

i think if rogers were signed before the season had started, team is on the hook for a whole season, but if they get him after week one, he can be cut at any time & he just gets paid on a prorated basis...

I believe this only applies to players with 4 years of service or more.

 

[Da Guru]

Any Chuckie Rogers sightings as of late?

 

[Jedeye]

I saw him on my waiver wire as I was browsing it today.

 

[nortobc]

I saw him on my waiver wire as I was browsing it today.

 

[The Houston Stallions]

I saw him on my bench as I was browsing for trade bait.

 

[Da Guru]

All I heard is that teams were waiting until after the first week to sign him.

I truly think this guy is out of football for good. Too bad he did not have Mike Furrys work ethic.

For that matter it is too bad Mike Willimas does not have Furrys work ethic as well.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

All I heard is that teams were waiting until after the first week to sign him.I truly think this guy is out of football for good.

Considering that Koren Robinson, Lawrence Phillips and several other players with heavier baggage have had several opportunities, it's a little premature to put dirt on Rogers' playing time right now.

 

[Spartans Rule]

All I heard is that teams were waiting until after the first week to sign him.I truly think this guy is out of football for good.

Considering that Koren Robinson, Lawrence Phillips and several other players with heavier baggage have had several opportunities, it's a little premature to put dirt on Rogers' playing time right now.

It isn't a baggage issue right now. Teams wouldn't be deterred by marijuana use and attitude problems if he was still displaying the talent that made him the No. 2 overall pick. Rumors I've heard suggest that the teams that have worked him out just don't see the ability anymore. Where that talent went, I dunno, but it isn't there.

 

[NFZ]

All I heard is that teams were waiting until after the first week to sign him.I truly think this guy is out of football for good.

Considering that Koren Robinson, Lawrence Phillips and several other players with heavier baggage have had several opportunities, it's a little premature to put dirt on Rogers' playing time right now.

I dont get points for his flag football stats. Until a team whispers about him he is buried. At least the others had interest after they were cut.

 

[teamramrod]

Any Chuckie Rogers sightings as of late?

Dont know, but since I live in Michigan, I will cruise by the local crack house and see.....

 

[John Mamula]

Too much talent.

lmMFAo

 

[mbuehner]

Rogers gives Busts a bad name.

 

[bullitt]

Charles Rogers admits positive drug test

Lions WR Charles Rogers admitted testing positive for marijuana, forcing the NFL to suspend him four games during the 2006 season.

Well, it makes more sense now that an NFL team didn't try to sign Rogers and polish him up more quickly. We're not certain whether Rogers has to be on a NFL team to fulfill the suspension or whether he's already served his time. Rogers was also suspended four games for marijuana use in 2005. Oct. 5 - 5:06 pm et

link

 

[BoulderBob]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug...the talent is gone, forget about this bust.

 

[bullitt]

October 5, 2006

Charles Rogers ends silence

Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News

Former Detroit Lions wide receiver Charles Rogers ended a month-long silence since being released on the final cut in an interview that includes an admission by Rogers that a positive test for marijuana caused the NFL to suspend him for four games in 2006.

"I tested positive for marijuana," Rogers said in an interview with the NFL Network's Total Access show. "That's something I could deal with.I feel more ashamed for me, my family, for the organization. You know, it was a situation where, hey, I (bleeped) up. And, I can admit that."

The NFL network e-mailed a transcript of the interview Thursday.

Rogers was drafted second overall by the Lions in 2003 after a sensational career at Michigan State. Two broken collarbones interrupted his career, and he was released on the final cut this year. He has not signed with another team.

Rogers spoke on several issues, including the following:

# On why a team should take a chance on him now: "You can't teach talent. Talent is God gifted, and, I got the talent. But, I still got the willpower to put in the work to do whatever it takes.Can I help a team win?Most definitely."

# On the Lions filing a grievance to collect more than $10 million of his $14.4 million signing bonus because of the positive drug test and resulting suspension: "You go to work everyday, they are patting you on your butt. And, as you run on the field, they pat you on the butt, and, 'Hey, I still want that 10 million dollars, though.' So, that's hard to go out there and work for a team."

# On being cut by the Lions: "I think I needed a change of scenery. I think it was time for me to go. Everything is a mind thing in Detroit. You know, it's like, mind-games, instead of straight to the point, being honest and saying hey, where I'm at and how you feel about me."

linkWhat a loser, but there will probably be a desperate team that will give him a try.

 

[Eric Stratton]

Rogers gives Busts a bad name.

 

[Harry Beanbag]

Rogers gives Busts a bad name.

I am sure Ryan Leaf is probably rooting for Rodgers to catch on somewhere and play a few more years. Leaf would hate to be passed up by someone else when it comes to being called a bust.

 

[CA_7]

Patriots eye receivers

The Patriots worked out free agent wide receiver Charles Rogers, the second overall pick in the 2003 draft, yesterday at Gillette Stadium. The team also had veteran receivers Jabar Gaffney and Kevin Johnson in for workouts.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...terback/?page=2

 

[Bri]

Patriots eye receivers

The Patriots worked out free agent wide receiver Charles Rogers, the second overall pick in the 2003 draft, yesterday at Gillette Stadium. The team also had veteran receivers Jabar Gaffney and Kevin Johnson in for workouts.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...terback/?page=2

I think Gaffney's fine in the slot and wouldn't mind him.I don't want Rogers anywhere near Jackson and hope Jackson watched the tryout and him NOT getting a contract offer to send a message to the rook that never practices and expects to improve

 

[Borat]

Patriots eye receivers

The Patriots worked out free agent wide receiver Charles Rogers, the second overall pick in the 2003 draft, yesterday at Gillette Stadium. The team also had veteran receivers Jabar Gaffney and Kevin Johnson in for workouts.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...terback/?page=2

I think Gaffney's fine in the slot and wouldn't mind him.I don't want Rogers anywhere near Jackson and hope Jackson watched the tryout and him NOT getting a contract offer to send a message to the rook that never practices and expects to improve

Jackson? He's been hurt.

 

[Bri]

Patriots eye receivers

The Patriots worked out free agent wide receiver Charles Rogers, the second overall pick in the 2003 draft, yesterday at Gillette Stadium. The team also had veteran receivers Jabar Gaffney and Kevin Johnson in for workouts.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...terback/?page=2

I think Gaffney's fine in the slot and wouldn't mind him.I don't want Rogers anywhere near Jackson and hope Jackson watched the tryout and him NOT getting a contract offer to send a message to the rook that never practices and expects to improve

Jackson? He's been hurt.

all summer, it's always something else....somewhere in there it makes me question his toughness

 

[Borat]

Patriots eye receivers

The Patriots worked out free agent wide receiver Charles Rogers, the second overall pick in the 2003 draft, yesterday at Gillette Stadium. The team also had veteran receivers Jabar Gaffney and Kevin Johnson in for workouts.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...terback/?page=2

I think Gaffney's fine in the slot and wouldn't mind him.I don't want Rogers anywhere near Jackson and hope Jackson watched the tryout and him NOT getting a contract offer to send a message to the rook that never practices and expects to improve

Jackson? He's been hurt.

all summer, it's always something else....somewhere in there it makes me question his toughness

He pulled his hammy at the beginning of camp because he wasn't stretched out properly for a sprinting drill that he wasn't ready for (obviously his fault, I know). Being that he's a WR, that's pretty key. I understand your frustration, but I'm not ready to question his toughness yet.

 

[Da Guru]

What is Rogers doing at practice? It may be muscle memory...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fantasy/f...1_rogers_ap.jpg

 

[bonesman]

What is Rogers doing at practice? It may be muscle memory...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fantasy/f...1_rogers_ap.jpg

a few seconds later he tried to pass it to the guy on his left

 

[Da Guru]

Patriots eye receivers

The Patriots worked out free agent wide receiver Charles Rogers, the second overall pick in the 2003 draft, yesterday at Gillette Stadium. The team also had veteran receivers Jabar Gaffney and Kevin Johnson in for workouts.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...terback/?page=2

Pats sign Gaffney instead of Chuckie.

 

[Al Czervik]

Charles Rogers would have played for free

Mike O'Hara reports that Charles Rogers failed another portion of the NFL's substance abuse policy during the offseason. He would have been playing for free if he hadn't been cut on September 2. Rogers has worked out for three teams, reportedly poorly, and has yet to sign with another team. If he signs with another team, he could still face the same four-game penalty.

October 18, Detroit News: Rogers' punishment was for violating the NFL's policy on substance abuse during the offseason by failing to comply with rules related to testing and treatment for players with previous violations.

Rogers, a receiver, was suspended for four games without pay in 2005 for violating the league's substance-abuse policy. He was released Sept. 2 when the final cuts were made.

Two sources with knowledge of Rogers' situation said the penalty for this year's infraction called for Rogers to play the first four games without pay. The penalty could have been harsher -- up to a one-year suspension -- but the sources said the Lions and the NFL Players Association helped negotiate the lesser penalty.

So, free WR, former No. 2 pick available to anyone. Anyone. Anyone? Bueller?

Source

 

[Da Guru]

Charles Rogers would have played for free

Mike O'Hara reports that Charles Rogers failed another portion of the NFL's substance abuse policy during the offseason. He would have been playing for free if he hadn't been cut on September 2. Rogers has worked out for three teams, reportedly poorly, and has yet to sign with another team. If he signs with another team, he could still face the same four-game penalty.

October 18, Detroit News: Rogers' punishment was for violating the NFL's policy on substance abuse during the offseason by failing to comply with rules related to testing and treatment for players with previous violations.

Rogers, a receiver, was suspended for four games without pay in 2005 for violating the league's substance-abuse policy. He was released Sept. 2 when the final cuts were made.

Two sources with knowledge of Rogers' situation said the penalty for this year's infraction called for Rogers to play the first four games without pay. The penalty could have been harsher -- up to a one-year suspension -- but the sources said the Lions and the NFL Players Association helped negotiate the lesser penalty.

So, free WR, former No. 2 pick available to anyone. Anyone. Anyone? Bueller?

Source

No team is biting Al. Chuck will be a minimum wage player from here on in..if he plays.

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

Come on, someone's got to want a guy with character issue that lost the one thing that got him drafted in the first place, right?

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I understand that Charles Rogers and David Terrell hang out and play College Football video games now.

Since they both suck REAL bad on Madden.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Most KC fans will be forever in debted to Chuck if Derrick Johnson turns out to be the All-Pro everyone thought he would be. DET needed LB help when they took BMW in the 2005 draft @ 1.09. If Rogers had not had these issues they probably take DJ, and KC is left to other options @ 1.15.

As it went, DET took their 3rd straight first round WR and Johnson slipped 6 more picks.

So Chuck, thanks for screwing up your life....it has benefited the Kansas City Chiefs.

 

[radballs]

Rogers gives Busts a bad name.

It is strange though. You would think that if there is even a remote possibility (and I believe it is very distinct) that his demise is almost entirely psychological, that he would visit with shrinks, Eastern medicine doctors, hypnotherapists, acupuncturists etc. in order to preserve a lucrative career. What a buffoon? Then again, there are plenty of athletes that throw it all away. But, I don't think it ever had anything to do with Rogers' NFL talent and ability to perform on that level. I wonder if the early injuries set him back mentally.

 

[cracKer]

He can't be any worse than Michael Jenkins.

 

[sterjs]

Most KC fans will be forever in debted to Chuck if Derrick Johnson turns out to be the All-Pro everyone thought he would be. DET needed LB help when they took BMW in the 2005 draft @ 1.09. If Rogers had not had these issues they probably take DJ, and KC is left to other options @ 1.15. As it went, DET took their 3rd straight first round WR and Johnson slipped 6 more picks.So Chuck, thanks for screwing up your life....it has benefited the Kansas City Chiefs.

Chargers might have taken Mike Williams and then Merriman would have fallen to you. I remember during the draft I wanted us to draft Johnson... boy I'm glad we didn't.

 

[radballs]

He could be a useful kick/punt returner if given the right situation. Given the cap, alot of PR/KR end up being rookies or third string WR/RBs. Given how much yardage means on special teams play, I don't think it would hurt a team if Rogers could show some prowess in the open field. As a PR/KR, he's not asked to run precise routes and he's not asked to shoulder the load of an offense. Even if the gain is something like 2-3 yards per return, that kind of upgrade is huge. I feel the same way about Phillip Buchanon, although he's a horrible cover guy now, the guy could really move with the ball in the open field when he had the chance.

GG,Good to have you aboard here at FBGs. Seems like the guy should have a bit of talent/ability to potentially provide a team. Then again, sometimes a poor character guy can tear down team chemistry.

 

[mt99808]

He could be a useful kick/punt returner if given the right situation. Given the cap, alot of PR/KR end up being rookies or third string WR/RBs. Given how much yardage means on special teams play, I don't think it would hurt a team if Rogers could show some prowess in the open field. As a PR/KR, he's not asked to run precise routes and he's not asked to shoulder the load of an offense. Even if the gain is something like 2-3 yards per return, that kind of upgrade is huge. I feel the same way about Phillip Buchanon, although he's a horrible cover guy now, the guy could really move with the ball in the open field when he had the chance.

How could he be a useful PR/KR when the main issue dogging him is his speed. He just doesn't have it anymore.

 

[johns560]

Green Bay should sign him. It can't get any worse for them!

 

[Al Czervik]

He could be a useful kick/punt returner if given the right situation.

Given the cap, alot of PR/KR end up being rookies or third string WR/RBs. Given how much yardage means on special teams play, I don't think it would hurt a team if Rogers could show some prowess in the open field. As a PR/KR, he's not asked to run precise routes and he's not asked to shoulder the load of an offense.

Even if the gain is something like 2-3 yards per return, that kind of upgrade is huge.

I feel the same way about Phillip Buchanon, although he's a horrible cover guy now, the guy could really move with the ball in the open field when he had the chance.

How could he be a useful PR/KR when the main issue dogging him is his speed. He just doesn't have it anymore.

That's the problem. Hell, when he worked out for Miami, he had Nick Saban and Bobby Williams looking for any hint of the player they once knew and they did not see it.