Is Charles Scott being overlooked in Dynasty Leagues? (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

He's got great size 5'11" 238 and for a big man has good speed (4.53 on his pro day to make up for a bad combine 4.72). He scored 18 tds last year for LSU and has already moved ahead of Eldra Buckley (not hard to do I know). Mike Bell is the only one standing between him and LeSean McCoy. I'm looking past Weaver. Scott should make Bell expendable next year. As many of you know I'm not a believer in LeSean McCoy. At least I wasn't his rookie year. He doesn't seem to run with any authority or power.

Scott failed his Senior Bowl physical due to collarbone fracture in November.

 

[Steed]

The Pro Day time is a farce that most people will agree with. Then there's the question if McCoy turns into a miserable failure like you believe, is Scott a good fit for that offense? I don't think so, though I agree he still has value next year in the Mike Bell/bruiser role.

 

[JohnnyU]

The Pro Day time is a farce that most people will agree with. Then there's the question if McCoy turns into a miserable failure like you believe, is Scott a good fit for that offense? I don't think so, though I agree he still has value next year in the Mike Bell/bruiser role.

He's more than a bruiser http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjhFIo2qoU4

 

[loose circuits]

he wasn't overlooked in my league, went at 2.03 :dunno:

 

[JohnnyU]

he wasn't overlooked in my league, went at 2.03 :dunno:

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[Ministry of Pain]

Hi Johnny,

I'm mostly zoning in on redraft at this point for the next good while but I know you will keep rolling along with the dynasty chat.

He really doesn't fit the mold of what the HC likes to roll out there...he could be part of a 2 back system but in philly what would the prize be? What could you see this guy doing?

 

[Couch Potato]

And if you're into numerological stuff...

Wears number 38.

Listed weight is 238.

Was born on 8-8-88.

And Philly's bye week this year? Yep. 8.

http://www.nfl.com/players/charlesscott/profile?id=SCO132281

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

he wasn't overlooked in my league, went at 2.03 :dunno:

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I like him a lot and picked him up in eight of eleven dynasties this year. Think he compares as a bigger Pierre Thomas, i.e. slow, but good vision and outstanding ball skills for a big back. Great risk/reward pick IMO.

 

[JohnnyU]

Hi Johnny,I'm mostly zoning in on redraft at this point for the next good while but I know you will keep rolling along with the dynasty chat.He really doesn't fit the mold of what the HC likes to roll out there...he could be part of a 2 back system but in philly what would the prize be? What could you see this guy doing?

With his power and quick feet, and with the current scheme, I could see him as the Thunder in a Thunder/Lightening tandem, with the possibility of the larger share. Everyone thinks McCoy is another Westbrook. I hate to break it to them, but he isn't. Besides, the Eagles don't have to run their offense exactly as they did with Westbrook.

 

[bigums]

I grabbed him at 4.08. He's not 'fast', but he has quick feet/short strides, hits the holes decisively, and has really good balance.

He also does a lot of the little things that will get him on the field faster - willing blocker, ball is always tucked well, falls forward.

I don't think he'll ever be a world-beater, but he could be a very serviceable guy.

 

[moderated]

Hes a stiff, doubt hes even on a nfl roster once final cutdowns occur.

 

[JohnnyU]

Hes a stiff, doubt hes even on a nfl roster once final cutdowns occur.

I got $100 that says you're wrong.

 

[JohnnyU]

I grabbed him at 4.08. He's not 'fast', but he has quick feet/short strides, hits the holes decisively, and has really good balance.He also does a lot of the little things that will get him on the field faster - willing blocker, ball is always tucked well, falls forward.I don't think he'll ever be a world-beater, but he could be a very serviceable guy.

Stephen Davis II?

 

[coolnerd]

He is about what you expect from a 6th round pick. a guy with some talents, but probably more flaws that will keep him from being a consistent starter. His situation is not terrible (Mccoy, Bell and then what) and should be on at least a dynasty watch list if not the bottom of a roster no matter the league size.

 

[moderated]

Hes a stiff, doubt hes even on a nfl roster once final cutdowns occur.

I got $100 that says you're wrong.

Due to phili's horrendous rb stable he might make the team, but that isnt saying much.

 

[JohnnyU]

Hes a stiff, doubt hes even on a nfl roster once final cutdowns occur.

I got $100 that says you're wrong.

Due to phili's horrendous rb stable he might make the team, but that isnt saying much.

:heswimsbackwards:

 

[MAC_32]

He's a straight-line runner without speed and has limited power.

Talent-wise, he belongs on the practice squad. He might have a short term opportunity, but I think he's more likely to go the route of Tony Hunt.

There are much, much better risks to take in a dyno draft than Scott imho.

 

[JohnnyU]

He's a straight-line runner without speed and has limited power.Talent-wise, he belongs on the practice squad. He might have a short term opportunity, but I think he's more likely to go the route of Tony Hunt.There are much, much better risks to take in a dyno draft than Scott imho.

Sorry man, but you started your post out completely wrong. He has plenty of power and is pretty quick for a big guy. Now if you want to say he doesn't have long speed I'm with you 100% He's plenty quick enough through the hole.

 

[EBF]

He's a straight-line runner without speed and has limited power.

Mostly agree with this, although he has decent power simply due to his weight.I think he could be a decent thunder complement. Anything more than that would surprise me. I don't project him to ever be a starter in the league, so I don't think he's overlooked or undervalued.

 

[JohnnyU]

He's a straight-line runner without speed and has limited power.

Mostly agree with this, although he has decent power simply due to his weight.I think he could be a decent thunder complement. Anything more than that would surprise me. I don't project him to ever be a starter in the league, so I don't think he's overlooked or undervalued.

He could be better than Brandon Jacobs

 

[JohnnyU]

He's a straight-line runner without speed and has limited power.

Mostly agree with this, although he has decent power simply due to his weight.I think he could be a decent thunder complement. Anything more than that would surprise me. I don't project him to ever be a starter in the league, so I don't think he's overlooked or undervalued.

As far as the straight line runner comment, watch the youtube video again. There were several segments where he juked the opposition pretty good. He showed some nice moves on several occasions. However, I do agree he is mostly a straight line runner. I disagree with your reasoning for his power however

 

[thriftyrocker]

Report from camp:

LesBowen: Don't wanna say #Eagles rookie RB Charles Scott has hard hands, but after this practice, the ball might have to go on the PUP list.

If that continues, he won't make an impact with the Eagles.

GeoffMosher noted a couple positive plays though.

 

[JohnnyU]

Report from camp:

LesBowen: Don't wanna say #Eagles rookie RB Charles Scott has hard hands, but after this practice, the ball might have to go on the PUP list.

If that continues, he won't make an impact with the Eagles.

GeoffMosher noted a couple positive plays though.

From the Eagles web site - http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=20731The Good: Strong interior running back who picks up the tough yardage. Displays solid running vision, sidesteps defenders in a small area, and shows a burst through the hole. Gets a lot of momentum going when he squares his shoulders and then turns north/south, breaks tackles or picks up a lot of yardage off initial contact. Also displays the ability to weave through traffic and find the running lanes. Rarely brought down by the first defender. Gives effort as a blocker.

The Bad: Lacks the speed and agility to turn the corner. Cannot beat defenders into the open field or run to daylight. Clavicle injury must be checked out.

The Verdict: At the top of his game, Scott is a terrific prospect for a power running offense that prefers to pound the ball on the inside. He offers starting potential if he gets back to health and shows durability.

http://www.newerascouting.com/05/2010-nfl-...fc-east-review/

Best Pick: Charles Scott – RB – LSU (#200 overall)

Scout’s Take: It will be hard to find better value in the 6th round of the 2010 draft class than what the Eagles got with Scott. His thick base and ability to shake off tacklers in space as well as in between the tackles will get this power back on the field right away. Because he battled a shoulder injury throughout the pre-draft process, he was unable to display his every down ability at the Senior Bowl. He will be a short yardage specialist that can evolve in to an every down bruiser within the next 2-3 years.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

I like Scott mostly because I think McCoy is awful. Leonard Weaver ran for a 4.6 average in Philadelphia last year. McCoy ran for 4.1. How does that happen?

8'11" broad jump, 29" vert at his pro day and it shows on the field. Dude had ONE run over 20 yards all year, and that's supposed to be his wheel house. It's not a lock, but I'd say Scott has a shot to start at some point this season. If he gets that chance, you never know how effective he might be in that system. Definitely worth a shot late.

 

[TheWheel]

Well the eagles have been trying to replace Duce Staley since he left...Mike Bell or Scott could fill that role. And Scott was a beast at LSU...he would have been drafted far higher had he not gotten injured.

if Kolb underacheives or gets injured, expect that pass happy offense to go right out the window.

 

[LBH]

i got him in the 4th rd of a bunch of dynastys. Like him a lot at that cost

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

He went undrafted in our dyno rookie draft. Isn't he just Weaver without the pass-catching ability?

 

[Zoomanji]

Report from camp:

LesBowen: Don't wanna say #Eagles rookie RB Charles Scott has hard hands, but after this practice, the ball might have to go on the PUP list.

If that continues, he won't make an impact with the Eagles.

GeoffMosher noted a couple positive plays though.

From the Eagles web site - http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=20731The Good: Strong interior running back who picks up the tough yardage. Displays solid running vision, sidesteps defenders in a small area, and shows a burst through the hole. Gets a lot of momentum going when he squares his shoulders and then turns north/south, breaks tackles or picks up a lot of yardage off initial contact. Also displays the ability to weave through traffic and find the running lanes. Rarely brought down by the first defender. Gives effort as a blocker.

The Bad: Lacks the speed and agility to turn the corner. Cannot beat defenders into the open field or run to daylight. Clavicle injury must be checked out.

The Verdict: At the top of his game, Scott is a terrific prospect for a power running offense that prefers to pound the ball on the inside. He offers starting potential if he gets back to health and shows durability.

http://www.newerascouting.com/05/2010-nfl-...fc-east-review/

Best Pick: Charles Scott – RB – LSU (#200 overall)

Scout’s Take: It will be hard to find better value in the 6th round of the 2010 draft class than what the Eagles got with Scott. His thick base and ability to shake off tacklers in space as well as in between the tackles will get this power back on the field right away. Because he battled a shoulder injury throughout the pre-draft process, he was unable to display his every down ability at the Senior Bowl. He will be a short yardage specialist that can evolve in to an every down bruiser within the next 2-3 years.

Wow!

Really?

You just countered a training camp report with pre-draft info?

So by that theory, Jamarcus Russell is a winner.

Tony Hunt II and if he can't catch the ball in this offense, he'll be lucky to make the PS

 

[Couch Potato]

Report from camp:

LesBowen: Don't wanna say #Eagles rookie RB Charles Scott has hard hands, but after this practice, the ball might have to go on the PUP list.

If that continues, he won't make an impact with the Eagles.

GeoffMosher noted a couple positive plays though.

From the Eagles web site - http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=20731The Good: Strong interior running back who picks up the tough yardage. Displays solid running vision, sidesteps defenders in a small area, and shows a burst through the hole. Gets a lot of momentum going when he squares his shoulders and then turns north/south, breaks tackles or picks up a lot of yardage off initial contact. Also displays the ability to weave through traffic and find the running lanes. Rarely brought down by the first defender. Gives effort as a blocker.

The Bad: Lacks the speed and agility to turn the corner. Cannot beat defenders into the open field or run to daylight. Clavicle injury must be checked out.

The Verdict: At the top of his game, Scott is a terrific prospect for a power running offense that prefers to pound the ball on the inside. He offers starting potential if he gets back to health and shows durability.

http://www.newerascouting.com/05/2010-nfl-...fc-east-review/

Best Pick: Charles Scott – RB – LSU (#200 overall)

Scout’s Take: It will be hard to find better value in the 6th round of the 2010 draft class than what the Eagles got with Scott. His thick base and ability to shake off tacklers in space as well as in between the tackles will get this power back on the field right away. Because he battled a shoulder injury throughout the pre-draft process, he was unable to display his every down ability at the Senior Bowl. He will be a short yardage specialist that can evolve in to an every down bruiser within the next 2-3 years.

Wow!

Really?

You just countered a training camp report with pre-draft info?

So by that theory, Jamarcus Russell is a winner.

Tony Hunt II and if he can't catch the ball in this offense, he'll be lucky to make the PS

He countered one reporter's observation based on one very early training camp practice. He countered it with two scouting reports from people who are paid to do such things, put in hours and hours of research etc.At this point we don't know how it'll go, but let's not get carried away by Les Bowen's little remark. His opinion is just an opinion.

 

[sholditch]

I took a flier on him simply because he's the only really big back on their roster. Bell isn't well suited for the way he runs (or should I say jumps). I think he has a ceiling of Correl Buckhalter, could be used in the GL package. Not much else there. GL vulture at best.

 

[MAC_32]

He's a straight-line runner without speed and has limited power.Talent-wise, he belongs on the practice squad. He might have a short term opportunity, but I think he's more likely to go the route of Tony Hunt.There are much, much better risks to take in a dyno draft than Scott imho.

Sorry man, but you started your post out completely wrong. He has plenty of power and is pretty quick for a big guy. Now if you want to say he doesn't have long speed I'm with you 100% He's plenty quick enough through the hole.

For a guy his size I'd expect more power and a meaner streak, it's why Mario Barber has been so successful. I don't see those qualities in Scott.

 

[JohnnyU]

He's a straight-line runner without speed and has limited power.

Talent-wise, he belongs on the practice squad. He might have a short term opportunity, but I think he's more likely to go the route of Tony Hunt.

There are much, much better risks to take in a dyno draft than Scott imho.

Sorry man, but you started your post out completely wrong. He has plenty of power and is pretty quick for a big guy. Now if you want to say he doesn't have long speed I'm with you 100% He's plenty quick enough through the hole.

For a guy his size I'd expect more power and a meaner streak, it's why Mario Barber has been so successful. I don't see those qualities in Scott.

I do, and more. Not sure why you would say that. It doesn't make sense.

 

[MAC_32]

I do, and more. Not sure why you would say that. It doesn't make sense.

Two different sets of eyes can look at the same thing and see something different, I think there's more hope for guys like McCluster, Toby, Taylor Price, Anthony Dixon, Marcus Easley, Emmanuel Sanders, and Carlton Mitchell so they're the rookies I invested in.

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

Sounds like he is unlikely to even make the team in Philly. Seems likely to be the 2010 version of Cedric Peerman. Not worth a roster spot, except in leagues with large rosters.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/436829-...h-charles-scott

 

[Zoomanji]

Sounds like he is unlikely to even make the team in Philly. Seems likely to be the 2010 version of Cedric Peerman. Not worth a roster spot, except in leagues with large rosters.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/436829-...h-charles-scott

I'm keeping him on my Taxi Squad in FB mandatory league

 

[JohnnyU]

Sorry for wasting a thread on this guy. Not looking good for Chas. I guess he could turn it around the next three weeks, but in all honesty he hasn't looked good. I admit I was probably wrong about Mr. Scott. Call it wishful thinking . It's easy to predict good fortune for the likes of Spiller, Best, Dez, etc. The failure rate on deep dynasty prospects is high.

Beat writer Geoff Mosher predicts that rookie RB Charles Scott will not make the Eagles' 53-man roster.

Scott allegedly "blew an opportunity" to climb as high as No. 2 on the depth chart by "drop(ping) too many passes" and failing to "make standout plays." We thought the Eagles listing Scott as a reserve fullback was an ominous sign, and it appears to be so. He does have three preseason games left.

Source: Wilmington News Journal

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Sorry for wasting a thread on this guy. Not looking good for Chas. I guess he could turn it around the next three weeks, but in all honesty he hasn't looked good. I admit I was probably wrong about Mr. Scott. Call it wishful thinking

Beat writer Geoff Mosher predicts that rookie RB Charles Scott will not make the Eagles' 53-man roster.

Scott allegedly "blew an opportunity" to climb as high as No. 2 on the depth chart by "drop(ping) too many passes" and failing to "make standout plays." We thought the Eagles listing Scott as a reserve fullback was an ominous sign, and it appears to be so. He does have three preseason games left.

Source: Wilmington News Journal

sounds like the Eagles didnt play to his strength. He has stone hands, so dont ask him to catch passes. Leave him in the power role

 

[TheFanatic]

Report from camp:

LesBowen: Don't wanna say #Eagles rookie RB Charles Scott has hard hands, but after this practice, the ball might have to go on the PUP list.

If that continues, he won't make an impact with the Eagles.

GeoffMosher noted a couple positive plays though.

From the Eagles web site - http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=20731The Good: Strong interior running back who picks up the tough yardage. Displays solid running vision, sidesteps defenders in a small area, and shows a burst through the hole. Gets a lot of momentum going when he squares his shoulders and then turns north/south, breaks tackles or picks up a lot of yardage off initial contact. Also displays the ability to weave through traffic and find the running lanes. Rarely brought down by the first defender. Gives effort as a blocker.

The Bad: Lacks the speed and agility to turn the corner. Cannot beat defenders into the open field or run to daylight. Clavicle injury must be checked out.

The Verdict: At the top of his game, Scott is a terrific prospect for a power running offense that prefers to pound the ball on the inside. He offers starting potential if he gets back to health and shows durability.

http://www.newerascouting.com/05/2010-nfl-...fc-east-review/

Best Pick: Charles Scott – RB – LSU (#200 overall)

Scout’s Take: It will be hard to find better value in the 6th round of the 2010 draft class than what the Eagles got with Scott. His thick base and ability to shake off tacklers in space as well as in between the tackles will get this power back on the field right away. Because he battled a shoulder injury throughout the pre-draft process, he was unable to display his every down ability at the Senior Bowl. He will be a short yardage specialist that can evolve in to an every down bruiser within the next 2-3 years.

Wow!

Really?

You just countered a training camp report with pre-draft info?

So by that theory, Jamarcus Russell is a winner.

Tony Hunt II and if he can't catch the ball in this offense, he'll be lucky to make the PS

He countered one reporter's observation based on one very early training camp practice. He countered it with two scouting reports from people who are paid to do such things, put in hours and hours of research etc.At this point we don't know how it'll go, but let's not get carried away by Les Bowen's little remark. His opinion is just an opinion.

It doesn't take a pro scout to tell if a guy can't catch. It's not really a gray area. It's pretty cut and dried.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

From what ive heard out of Eagles camp, hes got about as much chance of making the team as me.

Still trying to figure out why they drafted him considering his style of play goes completely against what the Eagles like to do

 

[TheFanatic]

(Rotoworld) Beat writer Geoff Mosher predicts that rookie RB Charles Scott will not make the Eagles' 53-man roster.Analysis: Scott allegedly "blew an opportunity" to climb as high as No. 2 on the depth chart by "drop(ping) too many passes" and failing to "make standout plays." We thought the Eagles listing Scott as a reserve fullback was an ominous sign, and it appears to be so. He does have three preseason games left.

Can't trust this. Can't use beat writers as scouts. A beat writer does not have the necessary skills to determine if a player can catch or not catch... Can someone get me a scouting report on this kid during camp?

 

[JohnnyU]

Does anyone think he could do well in an offense that was power oriented and doesn't require him to catch the ball? If the Eagles cut him, maybe that's the best thing for Charles Scott if he can latch on to a team more suited to his strengths.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Sounds like he is unlikely to even make the team in Philly. Seems likely to be the 2010 version of Cedric Peerman. Not worth a roster spot, except in leagues with large rosters.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/436829-...h-charles-scott

Damn, beat me to the comment.Life's a bit different when you don't have Les Miles slobbering on your nuts.

 

[shader]

I cut bait on this guy a week ago for a 2011 5th rounder (yes, very, very deep IDP dynasty league).

It was the best I could get. I doubt I could get anything for him now.

 

[delusional]

nate ilaoa v2

 

[RedRaiders]

Tony Hunt wait...

 

[JohnnyU]

Tony Hunt wait...

It's like Jeff Saturday trying out with Baltimore and getting cut. He went into the locker room and looked up at all these giants and said uh oh. All he needed was a system that worked for him. The same may be true for Scott. Obviously Phillys scheme isn't good for a rb that runs with power, but has no hands. Or he may just suck lol.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I think people are getting way ahead of themselves assuming Charles will be cut.

 

[moderated]

Or he may just suck lol.

Anyone who watched him in college already knew he sucked.

 

[JohnnyU]

Or he may just suck lol.

Anyone who watched him in college already knew he sucked.

He looked pretty good running for 1174 yds and 18 tds in 2008 with a 5.4 ypc. Of course I'm sure you saw right through that and can now say that it was all the LSU line.

 

[moderated]

Or he may just suck lol.

Anyone who watched him in college already knew he sucked.

He looked pretty good running for 1174 yds and 18 tds in 2008 with a 5.4 ypc. Of course I'm sure you saw right through that and can now say that it was all the LSU line.

Big plodding backs with no wiggle can succeed in college. His style doesnt translate to the nfl where he cant just run over people...and yes i did see right through his "college" numbers. He was a decent college rb, with a style that doesnt translate to nfl football.