Is Donald Driver really a buy low...? (1 Viewer)

[phillzphan]

Look at the game stats.

Before the coach told Favre to get them out of the hole:

series 1.

run/run/run

series 2.

pass to DD/run/run/sack

series 3.

pass to Lee/run/run/sack

series 4.

run/sack/run/pass to green/sack/pass to green/pass to ferg

So, in the first half, before McCarthy reportedly said "I hate to say it, but Brett's going to have to get us out of this one", DD got one look.

In the second half, he got plenty. I don't think that they'll leave the run as quickly as they did at halftime. even so, Greens till had 20 carries and a few looks in the passing game. IF they're being absolutelyr destroyed and Green still gets this much, I don't think the theory of Favre bombing it to Driver really holds up anymore.

We heard McCarthy say it in the offseason -- about relying on the running game more. I think we just didn't want to hear it. I would sell Driver's big game against a good D high right now.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I think you're crazy. GB will be playing from behind all year and Driver will benefit from that.

 

[Limp Ditka]

 

[fred_1_15301]

Look at the game stats.

Before the coach told Favre to get them out of the hole:

series 1.

run/run/run

series 2.

pass to DD/run/run/sack

series 3.

pass to Lee/run/run/sack

series 4.

run/sack/run/pass to green/sack/pass to green/pass to ferg

So, in the first half, before McCarthy reportedly said "I hate to say it, but Brett's going to have to get us out of this one", DD got one look.

In the second half, he got plenty. I don't think that they'll leave the run as quickly as they did at halftime. even so, Greens till had 20 carries and a few looks in the passing game. IF they're being absolutelyr destroyed and Green still gets this much, I don't think the theory of Favre bombing it to Driver really holds up anymore.

We heard McCarthy say it in the offseason -- about relying on the running game more. I think we just didn't want to hear it. I would sell Driver's big game against a good D high right now.

Your thread title doesn't even make sense? Who was claiming that Driver was a "buy low"? He had 7 receptions for 96 yds--pretty good game.

 

[agent 86]

I have to disagree with the "sell high". How can a WR on a team many say is one of the worst in the league who had neither 100yds or a TD be a "sell high" What are you going to get for Driver today that would help you more than holding on to him. Favre tageted him on 11 of 29 attempts. Driver caught 7 of 15 total completions. He is still generally the first place Favre looks on 3rd down and if GB ever gets to the red zone, he should get his share of targets there as well. Wait until he has a 150/1-2 game and then sell high. Otherwise, hold on to him and expect similar #'s to week 1.

 

[ThisGuy]

7rec 96yds is not bad for WR2

 

[Big Score]

How on earth are you coming up with - "Is Donald Driver really a buy low...?"

Nobody who owns Driver and is any kind of a fantasy football player, is going to be selling Driver low.

 

[davearm]

So long as Favre is under center, Driver will be a decent WR1/great WR2.

What Driver owners (like me) have to fear is Aaron Rodgers. If/when Rodgers gets in, then all bets are off on Driver's value. Driver's production could be just as good with Rodgers running things, or it could be much much worse.

 

[phillzphan]

7rec 96yds is not bad for WR2

As I said before I think you should get rid of him while his value is high. I don't think he'll even match this game for targets.

How on earth are you coming up with - "Is Donald Driver really a buy low...?"

I saw it at least once in the sell high/buy low threads.

Nobody who owns Driver and is any kind of a fantasy football player, is going to be selling Driver low.

I'm saying you should sell him high. IMO, as I explained before I think his value is at a high after this game.McCarthy's game plan obviously didn't allow any recievers to become worked in until the second half when he said its "I hate to say it, but its on Favre's shoulders now". Maybe I just wasn't clear earlier because I was in a rush to get to class but this [going to Favre] isn't going to happen all season. He didn't want to do that. He didn't want a gunslinging Favre. He's said it all off-season.

I don't think THAT many teams besides the Bears are going to win 26-0 vs the Pack so I don't think their going to be in AS desperate of a situation.

If you're going to count on them to be down 4 score to 0 every halftime, good luck. I have Donald Driver but I can't get the right value for him so I'll keep him. Its just a theory that I have that his value will go down as the season goes on. Not only for the previously mentioned reason but for another 2 important ones:

1. Injury to Favre

2. Retirement of Favre

Both are strong possibilities before the fantasy playoffs.

 

[Tau837]

The notion that Favre will retire during this season is absurd IMO. You are out to lunch if you use that as possible justification to trade Driver.

Driver is likely to finish the season as a top 10 WR. Week 1 confirmed that. What are you going to get for him if you trade him now that is better than that?

 

[phillzphan]

The notion that Favre will retire during this season is absurd IMO. You are out to lunch if you use that as possible justification to trade Driver.Driver is likely to finish the season as a top 10 WR. Week 1 confirmed that. What are you going to get for him if you trade him now that is better than that?

Well, I said retirement and injury are just adding to the reasons. I don't think its a lock at all Favre finishes the season. Either way, not the main reason.The main reason is because week 1 showed me their not going to be a passing team unless there are situations that they NEED to pass. 1 target to Driver when the game was somewhat-close. Thats all I need to say.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

7rec 96yds is not bad for WR2

As I said before I think you should get rid of him while his value is high. I don't think he'll even match this game for targets.

How on earth are you coming up with - "Is Donald Driver really a buy low...?"

I saw it at least once in the sell high/buy low threads.

Nobody who owns Driver and is any kind of a fantasy football player, is going to be selling Driver low.

1. Injury to Favre

2. Retirement of Favre

Both are strong possibilities before the fantasy playoffs.

Why is that? In case you haven't noticed, Favre holds the record for consecutive starts by a QB and it is very unlikley that he will retire during the season.

 

[mojorizin]

I worried about Driver - not because GB would be trailing a lot - but because I thought they would be trailing by too much, too often.

The problem with Favre unlike a lot of QBs outside of Plummer, is that he reaches so damned much when he is down by a few TDs, that he sometimes wont get 3 plays into a drive before throwing INTS. Instead of taking what the defense gives him and keeping the chains moving in a comeback effort, he's throwing ridiculous 40 yarders into triple coverage. Not that last week was an indication for some of these guys, but in past seasons QBs like Green, Bulger, Brooks have typically been monsters in the second half against no pass rush and zone defenses. 10 yards here, 20 there, and pretty soon they've put up a 300 yard day in a losing effort. Once Favre falls behind he gets that silly idea that he can bring his team back in one play and does completely stupid ####. Instead of 300+ yards, he ends up with 190 and 4 INTS.

There will still be some big days for Favre, and no doubt Driver will be the primary beneficiary. Still put up respectable numbers in the worst performance the Packers have come up with in ages.

 

[Native]

Donald Driver is a SELL HIGH for sure.

Driver was under the radar for years. I frequently drafted him in the sixth and seventh round, where he represented ridiculously good value for a guy that often produced 1200 and 8. However, this year he has gained much wider recognition and as a result, he went off draft boards as early as round 3. In the third round, he doesnt represent "value" - especially since Favre and the Packers are on their last legs. In round three, he needs to keep up this torrid pace just to justify his lofty draft position.

As a longtime Driver owner, it wouldnt surprise me at all if this was the year that Driver returns to Earth. People that drafted him as a #1 WR will ultimtaely be disappointed, imo. Probably a very unpopular opinion, but JMO.

 

[phillzphan]

7rec 96yds is not bad for WR2

As I said before I think you should get rid of him while his value is high. I don't think he'll even match this game for targets.

How on earth are you coming up with - "Is Donald Driver really a buy low...?"

I saw it at least once in the sell high/buy low threads.

Nobody who owns Driver and is any kind of a fantasy football player, is going to be selling Driver low.

1. Injury to Favre

2. Retirement of Favre

Both are strong possibilities before the fantasy playoffs.

Why is that? In case you haven't noticed, Favre holds the record for consecutive starts by a QB and it is very unlikley that he will retire during the season.

injury: how old is he? how crappy is that line?

retirement:

he thought about it this off-season right? there have been rumors he has been thinking about it this season right?

benching:

They have a QB that is more important to their future than Favre, right? If it looks like they won't make the playoffs, they might want to work him in for his first games, right? he threw 29 ints last year, and has 2 already right?

I can't imagine that its in his favor to finish the season.

again, this doesn't strongly make DDs value go down. I believe that its the GB game-plan for the year that will kill it.

 

[phillzphan]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

 

[packersfan]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

My thought is Driver didn't have a huge game in terms of receptions or yardage but still scored. In other words he did exactly what I like to see my WR1 do - he continued to contribute in meaningful ways.No worries here with Driver as my WR1.

 

[Slinger]

I'm not sure if I'd be happy to have him as my WR1, but as a number 2, he still fits the bill.

 

[Sack-Religious]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

It depends on your definition of "bad" 3 receptions for 20 yards and a score are good for 11 in my league. Not spectacular, but hardly "bad." The fact of the matter is that it was the Ahman Green show yesterday. If games like this are Driver's floor for the season, I'm very, very happy.

 

[theToes]

I'll do my best not too make this thread into an ACF thread but I was actually thinking about moving Driver to upgrade my Rb's and was wondering what others thought his value is. What tier of Rb do you get for him.

Kevin Jones or above?

Mcgahee?

What do you think?

 

[packersfan]

I'm not sure if I'd be happy to have him as my WR1, but as a number 2, he still fits the bill.

I had him ranked 12th going into the season but he was one of the WRs I targeted with Top 10 upside (Roy Williams and Wayne were two others). In a 12-team league I have zero problems with Driver as my WR1. And this isn't a homer call either - I rarely draft Packers in my league because they tend to go sooner than I would like to take them (although Favre really fell this year). But I was targeting Driver going into my draft and I talked about him on the boards quite a bit as well. I believe he is poised to have a very good season barring injury. I don't think there will be any questions when the season is over that he merited WR1 status.

 

[wannabee]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I do not think that was a bad game. Let me introduce you to WRs like Randy, Santana, Chambers, Ward, Plax, and the list goes on. Driver is playing well. I am ecstatic to have him as my WR2 in a PPR league.

 

[joffer]

no complaints or worries here

 

[comfortably numb]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.So with that said he is a #2 or #3.His "bad" day was better than other people's #1 or #2 in my league.Anyone looking to sell him may have a tough timeYou may not get any value for him as he is never really respected.I will sit with him as my #2 and be very happy.

 

[theToes]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.So with that said he is a #2 or #3.His "bad" day was better than other people's #1 or #2 in my league.Anyone looking to sell him may have a tough timeYou may not get any value for him as he is never really respected.I will sit with him as my #2 and be very happy.

Again, not trying to turn this into an ACF thread but if you were trying to move him, what level of rb do you get in return?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

Very very few WRs put up big catches and yards every game. I had him pegged to replicate his stats from last year. Plenty of yards and catches, few TDs. He is on pace to exceed my expectations.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Driver is 7th overall for WRs in PPR leagues and 8th in standard scoring leagues. I don't see any reason to think he can't stay in the top 10 all season.

 

[joffer]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.

anyone in a 12 team or greater league that took RBs in the 1st two rounds or Manning

 

[comfortably numb]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.So with that said he is a #2 or #3.His "bad" day was better than other people's #1 or #2 in my league.Anyone looking to sell him may have a tough timeYou may not get any value for him as he is never really respected.I will sit with him as my #2 and be very happy.

Again, not trying to turn this into an ACF thread but if you were trying to move him, what level of rb do you get in return?

Tricky quetsion, because as I mentioned I don't think anyone respects him.If you r looking for a deal with a RB, I guess I could consider someone with upside that may be having a bad start.Jordon? Not sure if I would do that thoughJLewis?You most likely would have to target someone who is VERY RB heavy or VERY WR slim

 

[comfortably numb]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.

anyone in a 12 team or greater league that took RBs in the 1st two rounds or Manning

I would say the majority went RB RB, and I still don't think Driver is that "many" peoples #1 WR.I could be wrong

 

[theToes]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.

anyone in a 12 team or greater league that took RBs in the 1st two rounds or Manning

I would say the majority went RB RB, and I still don't think Driver is that "many" peoples #1 WR.I could be wrong

I picked 12th in a 12 team PPR re-fraft went Portis - Jordan(already traded him) then went Driver - Wayne at the 3 - 4 turn.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.So with that said he is a #2 or #3.

His "bad" day was better than other people's #1 or #2 in my league.

Anyone looking to sell him may have a tough time

You may not get any value for him as he is never really respected.

I will sit with him as my #2 and be very happy.

He was the first WR I drafted (10th WR picked), though I turned around 7 picks later & took Roy Williams (Wayne & TJ went in between) - so I guess you could say they're my 1A & 1B. I had both of those guys targeted & probably could have gotten them in reverse order.

 

[bb7278]

Got Driver in the 5th somehow, almost fell out of chair, Farve is a HoF and the wk 1 talk of his demise despite having some history from the end of last year has been greatly exaggerated.

Happy with him as my #3: Holt, SS, Driver = hopefully good times!

 

[comfortably numb]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.So with that said he is a #2 or #3.

His "bad" day was better than other people's #1 or #2 in my league.

Anyone looking to sell him may have a tough time

You may not get any value for him as he is never really respected.

I will sit with him as my #2 and be very happy.

He was the first WR I drafted (10th WR picked), though I turned around 7 picks later & took Roy Williams (Wayne & TJ went in between) - so I guess you could say they're my 1A & 1B. I had both of those guys targeted & probably could have gotten them in reverse order.

Who do you "value" as your #1?Would you trade Roy as easily as you would trade Driver?

I know what you are saying as my #1 is Wayne.

A case could be made with the 1A 1B thought, but in my mind (dynasty league) Wayne is my #1 WR.

Again'

I didn't say NO ONE would have him as a #1 WR.

Just don't think many people do.

 

[Gargoylez]

Driver is a Sell VERY high, he is at a premium now considering the lack of production WR's like CJ and Holt are doing (Though Holt rebounded nicely against the crappy cardinals).

To try and persuade the board about Favre injury or retirment means one of two things... you are very NEW to football or you are planting a seed for a trade in your league... and the other team looks at these boards you want to trade with.

Donald Driver WR, GNB 18-269-89.7- 1 (6-90 average)

Thats some good solid numbers. THrow in a few TD's and he is a good 1st and a GREAT 2nd.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Driver was my #3 entering the season (CJ, Plax, Driver). He's really picked up the slack that CJ and Plax have left last week.

IMO, he's a hold if you've got him, and you should acquire him if you can. The emergence of Jennings will only take the coverage away from driver. This guy is a hard worker with great hands. The definition of a "workhorse" WR. Favre knows Driver is his most reliable option and looks to him in big situations. Driver is a mortal lock for 1200 yards this season, IMO.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

bump to add: favre goes off. Driver has bad game. thoughts?

I doubt many people have him as a #1.So with that said he is a #2 or #3.

His "bad" day was better than other people's #1 or #2 in my league.

Anyone looking to sell him may have a tough time

You may not get any value for him as he is never really respected.

I will sit with him as my #2 and be very happy.

He was the first WR I drafted (10th WR picked), though I turned around 7 picks later & took Roy Williams (Wayne & TJ went in between) - so I guess you could say they're my 1A & 1B. I had both of those guys targeted & probably could have gotten them in reverse order.

Who do you "value" as your #1?Would you trade Roy as easily as you would trade Driver?

I know what you are saying as my #1 is Wayne.

A case could be made with the 1A 1B thought, but in my mind (dynasty league) Wayne is my #1 WR.

Again'

I didn't say NO ONE would have him as a #1 WR.

Just don't think many people do.

Probably Driver right now, though it's close. I wanted Driver more at draft time; that's why I took him before Roy.

 

[SigEp316]

He's a STUD number 2 WR, he's got TOP 5 potential this year....

My WR squad is going to carry my team this year

 

[AcousticNut]

Got Driver in the 5th somehow, almost fell out of chair, Farve is a HoF and the wk 1 talk of his demise despite having some history from the end of last year has been greatly exaggerated.

Happy with him as my #3: Holt, SS, Driver = hopefully good times!

I too was able to pick up Driver in the 5th (5.5) and he's currently my #2 in a start 2WR league. I'm very happy with him as my #2 and would put him at a hold right now as I don't think he carries the prestige as some of the other receivers in his tier, therefore not bringing back appropriate value.I think the Pack's going to be playing from behind a lot this year and Driver will get his targets and catches.

 

[Blue-Kun]

I saw it at least once in the sell high/buy low threads.

I'm pretty sure you can find every starting RB, WR1 and half the WR2 in the NFL in those threads once.

 

[Slinger]

I'm not sure if I'd be happy to have him as my WR1, but as a number 2, he still fits the bill.

I had him ranked 12th going into the season but he was one of the WRs I targeted with Top 10 upside (Roy Williams and Wayne were two others). In a 12-team league I have zero problems with Driver as my WR1. And this isn't a homer call either - I rarely draft Packers in my league because they tend to go sooner than I would like to take them (although Favre really fell this year). But I was targeting Driver going into my draft and I talked about him on the boards quite a bit as well. I believe he is poised to have a very good season barring injury. I don't think there will be any questions when the season is over that he merited WR1 status.

Yeah I'm a big fan of Donald Driver in FF. He's always underrated, and maybe I'm guilty of that now. I just don't see him as a WR1, but maybe that's because I typically have a Chad Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald type on my team.

 

[packersfan]

I'm not sure if I'd be happy to have him as my WR1, but as a number 2, he still fits the bill.

I had him ranked 12th going into the season but he was one of the WRs I targeted with Top 10 upside (Roy Williams and Wayne were two others). In a 12-team league I have zero problems with Driver as my WR1. And this isn't a homer call either - I rarely draft Packers in my league because they tend to go sooner than I would like to take them (although Favre really fell this year). But I was targeting Driver going into my draft and I talked about him on the boards quite a bit as well. I believe he is poised to have a very good season barring injury. I don't think there will be any questions when the season is over that he merited WR1 status.

Yeah I'm a big fan of Donald Driver in FF. He's always underrated, and maybe I'm guilty of that now. I just don't see him as a WR1, but maybe that's because I typically have a Chad Johnson/Larry Fitzgerald type on my team.

I certainly wouldn't put Driver on the same level as those elite WRs. But there are only a few players of that ilk available so if you don't get one who else would you be comfortable with as your WR1? That's how I view it. Driver was one of the guys I was targeting as my WR1 knowing that I was very unlikely to get one of the studs at the position (i.e. Smith, Chad, Holt, Harrison and the Cardinal twins). So when I say I view Driver as a good WR1 that's not meant to say I think he's as good as one of the stud WRs but rather someone I believe will be a Top 12 player at the position - and with Driver I believe he has Top 10 upside this season.

 

[Gopher State]

Donald Driver is a SELL HIGH for sure. Driver was under the radar for years. I frequently drafted him in the sixth and seventh round, where he represented ridiculously good value for a guy that often produced 1200 and 8. However, this year he has gained much wider recognition and as a result, he went off draft boards as early as round 3. In the third round, he doesnt represent "value" - especially since Favre and the Packers are on their last legs. In round three, he needs to keep up this torrid pace just to justify his lofty draft position.As a longtime Driver owner, it wouldnt surprise me at all if this was the year that Driver returns to Earth. People that drafted him as a #1 WR will ultimtaely be disappointed, imo. Probably a very unpopular opinion, but JMO.

Wow I drafted Driver in the 6th round this year, I guess I got a steal

 

[deep vacuum]

When will Favre retire? Well, he's about 20 TD's away from Marino's record. He won't sit until then. No matter what the Packers record is. 1-2 more wins to assure the Packers that Favre is the record holder is something I think that management really wants more than Farve. Driver will put up solid stats until then. Spectacular at times but generally solid.

 

[top dog]

Driver will be solid all year. Especially in a PPR league.

If trading for a RB though it would definatly depend on the league rules. PPR league, Driver is worth much more as he should get a lot of looks each game.