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Is Dwayne Bowe really that much different from (1 Viewer)
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obxlegends
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One is 6'2" and 220 pounds and willing to go over the middle for the tough catch. The other one is Clayton.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
That wasn't Clayton's rookie year, it was his 2nd year.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
And I remember Clayton's stats being particularly inflated by a few very fluke-ish plays.
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redman
Footballguy
Since when is Gruden's offense "run oriented"?Both had solid rookie campaigns Clayton 939/5Bowe 995/5Common demonitators: Bad QBs, run oriented teams in a terrible offense.
Beaumont
Footballguy
Are we talking Mark or Mike?ETA: Thread title says Mark, stats are Mark's 2nd year, height/weight comparison is indicative of Mike ...Since when is Gruden's offense "run oriented"?Both had solid rookie campaigns Clayton 939/5Bowe 995/5Common demonitators: Bad QBs, run oriented teams in a terrible offense.
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minister
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Without checking his stats, I'll presume the OP is speaking of Michael Clayton.
One thing we can't predict is injuries, which I believe were a primary factor in Clayton's sudden downturn.
From what I recall, Clayton was every bit as impressive as Bowe when comparing rookie seasons.
One thing we can't predict is injuries, which I believe were a primary factor in Clayton's sudden downturn.
From what I recall, Clayton was every bit as impressive as Bowe when comparing rookie seasons.
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ThePittbully
Footballguy
This thread is a mess, it seems your implying Mike Clayton but all the stats are for Mark...and on top of that they're nothing alike
NorrisB
Footballguy
BingoFinally some one who gets it. It is for Mark Clayton. Personally I think Im going to be avoiding DBowe this season.
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Chunky Soup
Footballguy
But you did still quote their rookie numbers incorrectly. Funny how you mention "someone who gets it". I really don't see the comparison here. Bowe is a beast. Clayton isn't.
Some things of note:
-Bowe's rookie season was way, way better than Clayton's.
-Bowe was a better prospect coming out of college as well, telling us this might not be such a fluke.
-Bowe did this with a new coach as well for the team -- things should get better.
-Bowe has a more reliable RB to keep the D honest.
-Bowe isn't going to have looks taken away from a TE AND a WR -- only a TE (unlike Clayton)
FUBAR
Footballguy
McGahee is fairly reliable, he just had a worse offense before Baltimore. I am not convinced that Bowe was a better prospect. Clayton was ranked very high. Clayton was taken 1 spot higher than Bowe, as the 5th WR in a pretty strong (perceived to be anyway) WR class, Bowe was 3rd in a weaker class (after the top WR).
They are very different WRs, aside from the stats - which as noted, are misleading. You could almost as easily compare them to Marvin Harrison - 73/866/6
Bowe might be as good as the original Mark Clayton, better than 2.0
bowe, no question... just more physically gifted... different player totally... clayton is supposed to be relying on speed and route running... bowe runs just as good routes and is a physical specimen at the position... he is a pretty big load to bring down... now if you wanna compare rookie stats, i would maybe compare TO's because he can develop into the new TO if that offense ever finds solid ground.
Rev
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I'm not sure Bowe was much more touted coming out of college. Clayton was a big time college player with electric highlights, and lots of FFers were salivating over him, myself included. And he did have a nice year 2 seasons ago.Little too much Bowe love for me here. I'm giving both players another year before I crown them a stud or dud.
Wait, because Bowe's stats and situation are similar to Clayton's, you think he's going to play the same in year N+1? Bowe's stats are also similar to Muhammad's 2003 numbers (893/3 if you pro-rate them), and Carolina was also a team with a reputation for defense and tough running. In 2004, Moose put up 1405 and 16 scores. Should I be drafting Bowe in the first round as a result?
