Looks like this toe injury won't go away and will limit him all season. To what extent is unknown but if anyone saw how limited he wa sin the playoffs it was considerable. Gates is going round 4-5 ( as early as 3 in some 12 team leagues ) and to be honest at this point right now I can th9ink of 5 other TE's I would rather have -- KWIII,Gonzo,Witten,Cooley and Shockey. Just pissed I guess becasue I traded for Gates a few months thinking his injuury concerns would be well behnd him by now. Looks like he plays but never plays 100% all season.
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Is Gates finished as a top 3 TE? (1 Viewer)
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hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
I will answer that question after this season is over, as of now can't.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
Witten and Winslow ahead of Gates for me this year.
tribecalledjeff
Footballguy
That will be helpful for all of the leagues that draft retroactively in February.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
JGalligan
Footballguy
Uhhh, Mike Tolbert?
thatguy
Footballguy
Back in 2005, Keenan went for 70 917 9, and Gates still got his: 89 1101 10.I know that this year he will be competing with both Chambers and VJax, but I still think there are enough balls to go around for Gates to be elite The fact is teams will actually have to key on Chambers and VJax, which should allow a HEALTHY Gates to continue to create mismatch problems, perhaps moreso than in the past. The big question will be his health, but if healthy, I see him doing his usual: 80 900 9.
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
Elite? Yes
#1? I don't think so.
#1? I don't think so.
thatguy
Footballguy
I didn't realize this thread was asking if he would be #1. Could have sworn it asked if he was still top 3, which to me means is he still elite.
thatguy
Footballguy
And to answer the question, while I could easily see him finishing 3rd behind Witten and Winslow, I just don't think any of the rest of the pack will finish ahead of him barring him missing significant time. He's just too talented for the Chargers to all of a sudden forget about him.
Gates was the first TE off the board for us today...right in the middle of round 3. Apparently someone thinks he is going to have no problem with staying in the top 3. I snatched Witten in round 4 (right about where I was hopeing to see him). I was a little worried about Gates this year, and didn't want to reach too much for him. Seeing Gates go first instead of Witten made the choice all the easier. Winslow was plucked very shortly after that. All 3 were picked within the equivalent of 1.5 rounds in our 10 team league.
stevegamer
Footballguy
He's not finished in the top 3. People like to predict steep declines and palyers being finished because it makes them look smart when it happens. Thye forget wthat when it doesn't happen they look dumb.
He's a top 5 TE in all likelihood this year, with a shot at being #1, and a good shot at being top 3.
He's a top 5 TE in all likelihood this year, with a shot at being #1, and a good shot at being top 3.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I've been avoiding Gates like the plague simply because I doubted whether he could play the entire season and yet his ADP didn't really take a big hit. He's practiced quite a bit though and looks to be on the field, which is half the battle. Probably not a guy I would feel comfortable targeting this year, but I hardly see why his days as the top fantasy TE are over simply because he might have an off year in 2008 as he gets healthy.
az_prof
Footballguy
The ONLY question is his health, and as I see it, Winslow has as many health questions if not more, than Gates. He is easily still a top three. Will he be number one? I don't know. That isn't quite as clear. But he is still elite. I wouldn't trade him for Winslow or Witten myself and certainly not for anyone else. Shockey? What has he done to deserve tp be placed in such a high strosophere? He hasn't even played all preseason and has injury concersn of his own and has many more quality players to compete with for looks. Don't mention Shockey please as a competitor with Gates. The only one who has is likely to do as well or better IMO is Witten.
aldelgreco
Footballguy
that report should be exciting and fresh.i am waiting on pins and needles for it.
Mr. Pink
Footballguy
Exceptionally
chris1969
Footballguy
Excuse me, but we think Gates will be out of the top 3 because of his toe?
Did anybody look at KWII's medical records?
As far as the WR's cutting into his stats, you might wan't to look at the Browns as well because I think their WR's are better. Don't get me wrong, I rate Gates 3rd at TE this year, but he's pretty close to KWII IMHO.
Did anybody look at KWII's medical records?
As far as the WR's cutting into his stats, you might wan't to look at the Browns as well because I think their WR's are better. Don't get me wrong, I rate Gates 3rd at TE this year, but he's pretty close to KWII IMHO.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Check out his numbers in SD...he caught WELL over 50% of passes thrown his way...and I've bashed Chambers for years over his catch percentage (or lack thereof).
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
A healthy Gates is still the best TE in the game, so I highly doubt he is done as an elite TE. He may start slowly because of his toe, which is the only reason he isn't ranked at the top by me.
He caught 56%(47% in Detroit) for us last year despite running a high percentage of deep/bomb routes (40%).I am a Chargers fan and a long time Chambers basher(pissed when we gave up a 2nd round pick for him and still think we shouldn't have got ourselves into that position in the first place), but he was definitely an asset for us last season.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Yep. Still top 3.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
I get the sense that he's going to play through whatever pain he has in that toe and at the end of the year, you'll say that he's still in the top tier of TE's - but he'll be 'grouped' so to speak and at the bottom of that group to boot.
However, I can see the stories during next years mini-camps saying how Gates is now absolutely at 100% and that he's ready to reclaim his throne as the 'bar none' best TE in the game. You'll hear how he simply couldn't 'explode' in and out of his cuts and that he was probably at 75-80% all year...
...and then he'll have the same year in 2009 that he had in 2008.
However, I can see the stories during next years mini-camps saying how Gates is now absolutely at 100% and that he's ready to reclaim his throne as the 'bar none' best TE in the game. You'll hear how he simply couldn't 'explode' in and out of his cuts and that he was probably at 75-80% all year...
...and then he'll have the same year in 2009 that he had in 2008.
