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Hello Mr. hook,Yes, it's been draggin along. I've missed other real oppurtunities because of this. The most frustrating part is that after I send the counter offer I won't hear from him until after he's talked his "mentor" which is normally a day or so later. There is a silver lining here, at this point the trade dealine has passed but we can still negotiate and the trade will be performed after the season. By this point I'll know if it's the #1 overall pick.
This gets to the heart of the problem. You see advice between owners as shady. It makes you uncomfortable, as you've admitted. That's fine, but it's also not the way everyone feels. There's nothing wrong with soliciting advice or offering advice to anyone in your league.I'd actually recommend doing that on just about any trade your involved in. If you're making someone a fair offer, why wouldnt you want it bounced around beforehand? If a few people agree it's fair, a trade should go through easy enough. If one person strongly disagrees, but most other people agree it's fair, then the person recommending against the trade becomes suspect.Really, the only problem you might have is with other owners that are only concerned with their own teams giving bad advice. But that's easy enough to get around. I always recommend the other owner go to a few FF forums and post the trade for everyone to see. Then he can get completely unbiased advice to take into account. That's so easy nowadays it takes only 5 minutes.The fact is that everyone should run a team the way he sees fit, as long as he isnt colluding with anyone else. That's not happening in your case. You have one owner who likes what he's hearing from another owner. That might be distasteful to you, but it's not wrong. You probably need to do a better job convincing the 'protege' owner to seek advice elsewhere, such as this or other FF forums.
Yes, I think that owners and coaches ask each other for advice from time to time. Mike Shanahan freely admits that he called his good friend Jeff Fisher to get his opinions on Cutler before drafting him. Now, I'm sure that Shanahan didn't just ask Fisher straight up who he should draft, but he absolutely got Fisher's impressions of the player and whether he was worth it.In the college ranks, I know that Urban Meyer is big on asking other coaches for advice. Before the national championship game, he called several national championship coaches and asked them how they'd prepared, what they did differently, what they would do differently if they could do it again, etc. Sometimes coaches ask other coaches for advice. Sometimes owners ask other owners for advice. The big key to remember, though, is to always do your best to avoid a conflict of interest, and to keep the other person's motivations in mind at all times.
