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Is it smart to wait until the middle rounds to draft a QB this year? (1 Viewer)

AtomicDogg97

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Am I the only one who doesn't want to waste an early round pick on a quarterback this year??? Let other people take Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, etc in the first 3 rounds or so. I would rather load up on RB's and WR's and then take a couple of high upside quarterbacks in the middle rounds. I am specifically targeting two out of Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, John Kitna, Jay Cutler, and Matt Leinart. What do you guys think?

Last year I drafted Jake Plummer and Michael Vick late and was able to ride Vick to the championship.

 
that strategy is smart every year! If you can get Peyton late first/early second round, do it, otherwise, wait wait wait!

 
I think you have to include Palmer w/ Manning. I mean really his TDs over the past 2 years is higher than any other QB....and that's with a year getting used to new knee. I actually think Palmer in the 3rd round is GREAT value.

But of course with so many leagues only giving QBs one more point than a FG kicker and subtracting pts for INTS. I can see why some people won't draft a QB until the rest of their lineup is set.

It still escapes me why some people's scoring systems make a QB irrelevant.

 
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I think it's kind of murky after the first 7. If you want just one guy then get one of them early if need be. I think after the first 7 you're dealing with QBBC and so might as well wait and be stronger elsewhere.

 
that strategy is smart every year!
i agree...if you don't keep more than 10 players including IDP, then wait until the 6th round to take a QB. you can always get a good one late....and it's always good to take the best player available, even if you already have that position filled! if another team already has their QB locked up, they aren't going to draft one until every other position is filled.

it's all a matter of how many points are you going to lose from that position compared to one of the others you could fill or how many points will a person get from the player you use for trade bait....

supply and DEMAND!!!!! :shrug: :

eta: "are you going to".....grammatical error, don't want anyone to take away from the fact that QB's are overrated.

 
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BigSteelThrill said:
shredhead said:
awesomeness said:
going in to any draft this year, i try to get Kitna late.
Problem is, everyone is trying to get Kitna late. He's going in the 6th in most of the mocks I've seen lately.
Its going to continue to rise the closer we get to the season too.
You're correct... he's already rising. I was all set to take him at the 5.11/6.01 turn in a real draft, but he went at 5.10
 
For me, it's pretty straightforward. Let's use the 1 spot in a 12-teamer as a reference...

2.12/3.1 turn - only Peyton (he's only fell to me in one mock so far)

4.12/5.1 turn - Palmer, Brady, Brees, Bulger (Palmer, Brady, and Brees gone 99% of the time, Bulger is possible)

6.12/7.1 turn - McNabb, Kitna (McNabb rarely available, Kitna occasionally)

8.12/9.1 turn - Vick, Leinart, Hasselbeck, Young, Romo (at least 1 of them available, usually more)

10.12/11.1 turn - Roethlisberger, Rivers, Favre (Rivers only one usually gone from this list)

12.12/13.1 turn - best bye week QB to go along with my starter, if I nabbed a top 7QB; best matchup QB if I didn't

Isn't it funny how we all tend to warm up to the late QB's if we miss out on the top ones?

 
Keg said:
joffer said:
this year?
:kicksrock: fwiw I just drafted Leinart in round 11(122nd overall) in a 12 team IDP draft and for me that was early to draft a QB
Same draft- Rivers at 15.07, 8th best QB (27th player overall) last year in that scoring system.I would say wait.....every year
 
I managed to get Ben Roethlisberger in Round 8 and Rex Grossman in Round 11 of a 12 Team startup Keeper league.

11 QBs had gone prior to my selection of Roethlisberger (#12 QB) and 19 by my selection of Rex Grossman (#20 QB).

In my scoring setup, Roethlisberger finished #13 in FP at QB and Grossman finished #14 in FP at QB.

You can definitely get some late value at QB without sacrificing at other positions.

 
Just have to echo others' thoughts that it should not be approached as a "this year" thing; always imo better value to wait. and that includes peyton.

 
This year I think it's a good idea to grab Palmer/Brees (4th) or McNabb (5th) "early" to get an advantage over the field. AFter round 6 or 7 I see a lot of hit or miss in the QBs available. Someone mentioned Big Ben in this thread as QB#12. Another had Leinart as their QB#1. Honestly guys? I can see a guy like Hasselbeck falling a bit, or maybe even Romo just because he was so strong last year, but guys like Ben, Leinart, Cutler, etc. are just pure gambles right now. You can hold off drafting a QB and maybe upgrade your TE or WR2, but you could be losing out on so much..

 
This year I think it's a good idea to grab Palmer/Brees (4th) or McNabb (5th) "early" to get an advantage over the field. AFter round 6 or 7 I see a lot of hit or miss in the QBs available. Someone mentioned Big Ben in this thread as QB#12. Another had Leinart as their QB#1. Honestly guys? I can see a guy like Hasselbeck falling a bit, or maybe even Romo just because he was so strong last year, but guys like Ben, Leinart, Cutler, etc. are just pure gambles right now. You can hold off drafting a QB and maybe upgrade your TE or WR2, but you could be losing out on so much..
My plan was to take two out of the group that includes Rivers, Kitna, Rothlisberger, Leinart, Cutler, Young, etc. That way by taking two you reduce the risk and should end up with at least one solid player.
 
The past couple of seasons I've found myself stuggling to achieve consistent success/scoring in my main fantasy league. In the past I have been a proponent to the school of thought that subscribes to waiting on a QB and taking the "best of the rest" approach. I've found this has handcuffed my team and as such I've pinpointed my lack of consistent scoring to inconsistent QB play and this season plan to alter my draft strategy to grab a QB earlier. Does this mean taking a QB in the first or second round...NO!! however I feel consistent QB play is vital to fantasy success and as such will draft to ensure I get a productive QB from an offence where to QB is the focal point of the offence.

 
going in to any draft this year, i try to get Kitna late.
Problem is, everyone is trying to get Kitna late. He's going in the 6th in most of the mocks I've seen lately.
Its going to continue to rise the closer we get to the season too.
You're correct... he's already rising. I was all set to take him at the 5.11/6.01 turn in a real draft, but he went at 5.10
I got Kitna with the last pick in all of my drafts last year...and people laughed...
 
that strategy is smart every year! If you can get Peyton late first/early second round, do it, otherwise, wait wait wait!
Yeah sure worked great for me when I waited and got Bledsoe and Delhomme. :shrug:The strat seems sound enough but I've had one too many years with QB disappointments. Pass. I may not get Manning, but I am determined to get one of the top 3/4 guys.
 
This year I think it's a good idea to grab Palmer/Brees (4th) or McNabb (5th) "early" to get an advantage over the field. AFter round 6 or 7 I see a lot of hit or miss in the QBs available. Someone mentioned Big Ben in this thread as QB#12. Another had Leinart as their QB#1. Honestly guys? I can see a guy like Hasselbeck falling a bit, or maybe even Romo just because he was so strong last year, but guys like Ben, Leinart, Cutler, etc. are just pure gambles right now. You can hold off drafting a QB and maybe upgrade your TE or WR2, but you could be losing out on so much..
My plan was to take two out of the group that includes Rivers, Kitna, Rothlisberger, Leinart, Cutler, Young, etc. That way by taking two you reduce the risk and should end up with at least one solid player.
By my counts, you have 2 solid players and 4 gambles in that group. Good luck!
 
I am also a wait and take best available QB after most other teams have one (ten team leagues). It has been expressed in here that the ones you get at QB 12- QB 15 are gambles. They are definitely less consistent than the typical top six or so, but if you are drafting wisely while you are waiting, you will have ample ammunition to trade for a better QB. There are always a couple or three guys that draft top QB combos and after about week four or five, they are lacking at other positions AND so they are willing to trade their QB depth to improve their other positions.

Draft well at other positions and take late QBs. Then you have two options, play the successful late drafted QB or trade your depth at RB and/or WR to acquire a top performing QB.

 
...and if said other owners decide they aren't interested or think you're giving up enough (even tho you feel sure you are)? esp if they know you're in a spot w/sucky QBs and can put the squeeze on you? Right. You're hosed.

Never draft on the assumption that you'll be able to make a trade to "fix" a draft accident waiting to happen, unless perhaps you know your owners so well that you are really, really sure you can - AND are willing to give up more than you should have to, which is a very real possibility.

 
I got Kitna with the last pick in all of my drafts last year...and people laughed...

Me too. Then I traded him for a receiver down the stretch.

 

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