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This question isn't answered three games into the 2010 season. Obviously Collie has done all you could ask for with the targets he's been given, but Manning and the Colts will take advantage of matchups from week to week.Short answer RE: Garcon in dynasty is that he's a hold for now...
Manning throws to people he trusts. Right now that is Clark, Wayne and Collie. One of those guys will be open.
I'm a Garcon owner for disclosure and it's obvious his value has taken a huge hit. Anyone that says he'll be fine once he gets healthy is succumbing to wishful thinking. I'm not saying he's worthless but the first step is for him to shake this injury that's obviously more serious than first thought (It's been plaguing him since training camp). My guess is once he gets back, Collie will go back to the slot position and Garcon will be a spot start in fantasy because Collie has obviously built a rapport over the past year with Manning that makes him a much more consistent play. People drafted Garcon as a WR2 or WR3 but he won't live up to it. I can see him as top 40 option once healthy (which we have no idea that it will happen soon) with upside but that's about it.
Agreed...with the for now part
I think part of the concern is that Manning is not throwing the ball to him. In week 1 he had 11 targets - in a week that saw Manning throw a personal record completions - and Garcon didn't catch a very % of them. In week 2 he saw 2 targets, while everyone else's targets stayed strong. Now he is injured. You compare him to Stokely, while doubters would compare him to Aromashadu - a Colt WR with nice measurables who had problems with drops. Sure, Aromshadu's measurables weren't what Garcon's are and Aromashadu never really got a chance, but not every WR that Manning ever threw to puts up 1,000 yard seasons, or stays with the team.
As the OP, my full disclosure is that I am a Garcon owner but not disgruntled. I have not had to start Garcon, so he hasn't cost me. I have had him on my roster since last season and am just wondering is he ever going to take off. I'll give you the difference between slot and wide but they are both receivers in my book and in fantasy. If the guy is just not as good as another on his team at making the catch, and that is what Peyton is looking for, then what's the mystery? Even if he is the best receiver in the league (potential wise), and he's getting all the double teams, what do I care if other guys on his team, are getting all the balls thrown to them. Now I don't think that is the case and he still struggles. As far as being a Garcon owner and wanting Collie's numbers, that isn't my issue. What I saw was Collie put up numbers that I have never seen Garcon do. That got me to thinking are we see the changing of the guard? If Garcon's likely job is going to be to run guys off, then I've already experienced that last year with Royal. I don't pretend to be the best judge of talent or to be a superior "x"s & "o"s guy but I can read a recap. I have the room to carry Garcon but I'm wondering if I should - no panic just pondering.
Sure, but these things are fluid. Manning sure seemed to trust Garcon in the playoffs last year. No reason that a few days of good chemistry in practice followed by 1-2 receptions in a game will get them right back up to speed. Besides, the Colts know they need every possible weapon to be a force -- don't you think they'll actively look to get Garcon back in the mix?
THISYou have to remember that WRs often take a couple years to develop, and even Wayne and Clark took a few years to claim their current roles. It's not unprecedented for a Colts receiving option to take a few seasons to develop.However, the slot receiver is the one position in the Colts offense that doesn't seem to come with a steep learning curve as does the Flanker, Split End, and even TE if you go by their history with Manning at the helm. Stokley, Gonzalez, and now Collie have all produced some terrific numbers out of the slot; and the possibility exists that Collie will be a transcendant talent a la Wes Welker, but I wouldn't let that be the determining factor for what to do with Garcon. Right now IMO you're best bet is to give Garcon at least until the end of this season and see what his 2nd year as the starting flanker brings. He has the opportunity to develop into something special along the lines of a Wayne or Harrison in terms of production and importance to the offense, but obviously it's no given that he will reach those lofty heights. As long as Garcon continues to hold down a starting role opposite Wayne, then Indy either sees something worth developing, or they believe he is their best option for the time being. Of course, if you have a reliable crystal ball or are convinced that you already know how the story ends (based on 11 targets in two games of 2010), then by all means make a snap decision and pat yourself on the back for being ahead of the curve. Otherwise, continue to be patient and set your expiration date for season's end.
Now that's an answer! Unless something changes I see Garcon's outlook no better, or worse, than anyone that I would replace him with.
"buy' does work better, dynasty-wise.
And on it goes....
That certainly WAS true in week 1. If you're saying you KNOW that is still true now, you're making stuff up and asking us all to buy it because "you said so".Collie is certainly more than just "a slot guy".
"suggests"?And on it goes....
"Suggests" is enough for me to sit him until I actually see some production.Any Indy homers know if this guy Wilson is dialed in?"suggests"?And on it goes....
Those blurbs are always so unreliable. If you actually click on the Wilson tweet- he's jsut asking the question.. what if Collie still starts on the outside... He doesn't suggest that will happen or show any inside knowledge that it would. He's just asking a hypotheitical question."suggests"?And on it goes....
