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Is Jahvid Best Slipping? (1 Viewer)

solorca

solorca

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Over the past week, I've been noticing that Jahvid Best has been dropping really deep in mocks/drafts that I've seen. I would assume that the concussion and injury concerns have a lot to do with it, but I have been seeing him dropping to the 5th or 6th rounds, around the likes of Joseph Addai and Cedric Benson. Is this something that you are all seeing, or have I just been in some weird drafts? I have actually gotten Best in the 5th, and Fred Jackson in the 9th in two drafts in a row, both of which have seemed rather odd to me.

Maybe I'm missing something, and I know he is a huge question mark, but has something come out that other than the concussion that would cause such a sharp drop (maybe word of his situation being more of a RBBC than expected)?

 
He's been a 4th and 5th rnd pick in almost every draft Ive done.

Which makes ihm an incredible value.

If he stays healthy and stafford does as well, he could put up low RB1, high Rb2 numbers, easily

 
'rizzler said:
He's been a 4th and 5th rnd pick in almost every draft Ive done.Which makes ihm an incredible value.If he stays healthy and stafford does as well, he could put up low RB1, high Rb2 numbers, easily
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I think that I would have more faith in his value if I didn't have him on my team last season (when I drafted him as my RB2, after I bought into the hype). In the 5th round though, I think he is definitely worth the shot this season.
 
I compare Best to fine china..both have value but both are very delicate.

As a Lion fan I would love to see Best have a huge year, but he seems to get nicked every game even when touches are limited.

 
'solorca said:
'rizzler said:
He's been a 4th and 5th rnd pick in almost every draft Ive done.Which makes ihm an incredible value.If he stays healthy and stafford does as well, he could put up low RB1, high Rb2 numbers, easily
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I think that I would have more faith in his value if I didn't have him on my team last season (when I drafted him as my RB2, after I bought into the hype). In the 5th round though, I think he is definitely worth the shot this season.
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Your playing with morons if Best falls to the 5th round in a PPR league.
 
I'd look at it this way:

1) His team felt compelled to take a RB in the 2nd, a year after they grabbed him in the 1st.

2) After a year of nagging injuries, he is hurt again.

3) Concussions are not to be messed with in the new NFL, and at some point, the NFL is going to step in and dictate when someone returns (when I say NFL, I mean the offices).

 
'Da Guru said:
I compare Best to fine china..both have value but both are very delicate.As a Lion fan I would love to see Best have a huge year, but he seems to get nicked every game even when touches are limited.
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As long as you have Harrison you're going to be fine in that Lion's offense.
 
I see Jahvid Best as Jamaal Charles in a better situation. Better Offense, better defense, arguably a better QB. Going off the two healthy games from last year, he seems to be just as explosive, he has room to improve on the ground, he has seemingly good vision but he makes some questionable cuts. But he is quick and fast, has good hands and as I mentioned before in his offense I think hes in a good position to succeed.

Almost identical everywhere.

Jamaal Charles

Ht: 5'11"

Wt: 200

40 yd dash: 4.38

Jahvid Best

Ht: 5'10"

Wt: 195

40 yd dash: 4.35

They both scored mid-to-low on the vert/broad jumps and bench press.

 
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'shortbow said:
I see Jahvid Best as Jamaal Charles in a better situation. Better Offense, better defense, arguably a better QB. Going off the two healthy games from last year, he seems to be just as explosive, he has room to improve on the ground, he has seemingly good vision but he makes some questionable cuts. But he is quick and fast, has good hands and as I mentioned before in his offense I think hes in a good position to succeed.Almost identical everywhere.Jamaal CharlesHt: 2'11"Wt: 20040 yd dash: 4.38Jahvid BestHt: 2'10"Wt: 19540 yd dash: 4.35
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Damn, no wonder Charles had such a high YPC last season. No one can see that 3 foot tall midget running behind those big O Linemen. I look for Best to play like he's 4 to 4.5 feet tall this season and finish in the top 10 RBs.
 
He got banged up and missed the remainder of one game and then missed another game entirely.

He should be slipping.

He had been steadily moving upward right until his concussion.

 
When Best suffered his concussion, the team downplayed it to a "bell ring". The RBs that I draft in 2011 are not going to have pre-season concussion issues.

 
'finito said:
Because Best is the same size and runs as fast as Charles does not make him as good.
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Sweet reading comprehension brah.Best isnt as good as Charles, I said he was in a better situation, anyone can argue that he isnt, but those people are typically Charles owners and wrong.
'glong989 said:
'shortbow said:
I see Jahvid Best as Jamaal Charles in a better situation. Better Offense, better defense, arguably a better QB. Going off the two healthy games from last year, he seems to be just as explosive, he has room to improve on the ground, he has seemingly good vision but he makes some questionable cuts. But he is quick and fast, has good hands and as I mentioned before in his offense I think hes in a good position to succeed.Almost identical everywhere.Jamaal CharlesHt: 2'11"Wt: 20040 yd dash: 4.38Jahvid BestHt: 2'10"Wt: 19540 yd dash: 4.35
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Damn, no wonder Charles had such a high YPC last season. No one can see that 3 foot tall midget running behind those big O Linemen. I look for Best to play like he's 4 to 4.5 feet tall this season and finish in the top 10 RBs.
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Lol good catch, ive never had dyslexia before, can it be developed?
 
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'rizzler said:
He's been a 4th and 5th rnd pick in almost every draft Ive done.Which makes ihm an incredible value.If he stays healthy and stafford does as well, he could put up low RB1, high Rb2 numbers, easily
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I drafted him in the fifth last year. He was not a value. What's changed?
 
'Da Guru said:
I compare Best to fine china..both have value but both are very delicate.As a Lion fan I would love to see Best have a huge year, but he seems to get nicked every game even when touches are limited.
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dude he is a warrior come on he got some turf toe, it happens to the best of them... he still had awesome stats in college and had a fluke concussion where he propelled 10 feet up in the air. He is no more a risk then Knowshon, beenie, shonn green, ryan matthews guys. I took him 3.2 in my last ppr draft. I got Ingram 5.2
 
'the spanker said:
'solorca said:
'rizzler said:
He's been a 4th and 5th rnd pick in almost every draft Ive done.Which makes ihm an incredible value.If he stays healthy and stafford does as well, he could put up low RB1, high Rb2 numbers, easily
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I think that I would have more faith in his value if I didn't have him on my team last season (when I drafted him as my RB2, after I bought into the hype). In the 5th round though, I think he is definitely worth the shot this season.
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Your playing with morons if Best falls to the 5th round in a PPR league.
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:goodposting: 3rd round pick in ppr
 
'None_More_Black said:
'rizzler said:
He's been a 4th and 5th rnd pick in almost every draft Ive done.Which makes ihm an incredible value.If he stays healthy and stafford does as well, he could put up low RB1, high Rb2 numbers, easily
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I drafted him in the fifth last year. He was not a value. What's changed?
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Nothing has changed since you drafted him last season. What made his value go down was his toes being turfed. His toes aren't turfed now.
 
'glong989 said:
'None_More_Black said:
'rizzler said:
He's been a 4th and 5th rnd pick in almost every draft Ive done.

Which makes ihm an incredible value.

If he stays healthy and stafford does as well, he could put up low RB1, high Rb2 numbers, easily
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I drafted him in the fifth last year. He was not a value. What's changed?
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Nothing has changed since you drafted him last season. What made his value go down was his toes being turfed. His toes aren't turfed now.
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His brain is turfed.
 
The guy is going to FF gold if he stays healthy. He has already been back at practice for a week and will be fully ready to go week 1. Huge risk/reward guy.

 
'shortbow said:
'zoonation said:
The guy is going to FF gold if he stays healthy. He has already been back at practice for a week and will be fully ready to go week 1. Huge risk/reward guy.
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Pretty much sums it up for me, I think he is a strong RB2.
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Ya, I think you game plan around him as a RB2 knowing you have to grab another Freddie Jackson type somewhat earlier then you may want to.Without that concussion you wouldn't see him last outside the 3rd round. Now you get him late 4th or 5th. Allowing you to draft another position early but having to double-dip at RB in the 5th/6th area.
 
if you can get him as your RB3, go for it. but if you are going to try to count on him every week as a starter, the rest of your team better be fantastic. I see alot of low scoring games from him sprinkled with a couple massive games.

 
:goodposting:
'glong989 said:
'shortbow said:
I see Jahvid Best as Jamaal Charles in a better situation. Better Offense, better defense, arguably a better QB. Going off the two healthy games from last year, he seems to be just as explosive, he has room to improve on the ground, he has seemingly good vision but he makes some questionable cuts. But he is quick and fast, has good hands and as I mentioned before in his offense I think hes in a good position to succeed.Almost identical everywhere.Jamaal CharlesHt: 2'11"Wt: 20040 yd dash: 4.38Jahvid BestHt: 2'10"Wt: 19540 yd dash: 4.35
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Damn, no wonder Charles had such a high YPC last season. No one can see that 3 foot tall midget running behind those big O Linemen. I look for Best to play like he's 4 to 4.5 feet tall this season and finish in the top 10 RBs.
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After seeing how well Harrison has played this preseason, I have to admit that I'm a little worried about Best this season.

 
'BigSteelThrill said:
'shortbow said:
'zoonation said:
The guy is going to FF gold if he stays healthy. He has already been back at practice for a week and will be fully ready to go week 1. Huge risk/reward guy.
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Pretty much sums it up for me, I think he is a strong RB2.
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Ya, I think you game plan around him as a RB2 knowing you have to grab another Freddie Jackson type somewhat earlier then you may want to.Without that concussion you wouldn't see him last outside the 3rd round. Now you get him late 4th or 5th. Allowing you to draft another position early but having to double-dip at RB in the 5th/6th area.
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I have done 5 drafts since Sunday and he never makes it to the 4th always goes in the 3rd, went late 2nd once.Just grab Harrison as insurance.
 
'solorca said:
After seeing how well Harrison has played this preseason, I have to admit that I'm a little worried about Best this season.
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I'm a Cal fan, but he'll be fine. If anything, judging by this preseason, Best and Harrison seem like the same kind of 1/-2/3/1/50+ yard TD guy. Only Best is more explosive. That's a good thing for Best.
 
I tried to do a handcuff swap of Rashad Jennings for Jerome Harrison, but with Jennings being hurt and Harrison blowing up, I highly doubt I'm going to get the backup. Looks like I'm just going to have to hope Best can be the man.

 
'the spanker said:
'solorca said:
'rizzler said:
He's been a 4th and 5th rnd pick in almost every draft Ive done.Which makes ihm an incredible value.If he stays healthy and stafford does as well, he could put up low RB1, high Rb2 numbers, easily
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I think that I would have more faith in his value if I didn't have him on my team last season (when I drafted him as my RB2, after I bought into the hype). In the 5th round though, I think he is definitely worth the shot this season.
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Your playing with morons if Best falls to the 5th round in a PPR league.
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In before the first, I want to play in your league post. :football:
 
i will let others draft Best.

I wanna see if he can stay on the field, AND be productive when out there. not holding my breath.

 
So where would you slot him compared to some other guys with ADPs around the same spot? Here's how I see it:

Ingram

Best

Greene

Wells

Mathews

 
'travdogg said:
'JayK said:
So where would you slot him compared to some other guys with ADPs around the same spot? Here's how I see it:Ingram Best GreeneWellsMathews
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Best IngramGreeneMathewsWells
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Interesting travdogg... so you've gotta be a firm believer that he will stay healthy most of the year AND hold off Harrison to retain most of the touches to rate him that high, I take it?
 
It's risk vs. reward. Jahvid was a spectacular college player and has much speed and elusiveness as anyone you can name in the league. He's also in a great situation to succeed with a high powered offense around him and not much competition behind him. I think this thread had covered the risk part of it quite well.

Personally, I paired him with Chris Johnson at 3.07 in my draft. I took him right after Forte and before Ingram, Greene and the rest of the third tier guys. This was one pick where I was swayed by Christopher Harris at ESPN. It was one of his flag planting players.

 
'JayK said:
'travdogg said:
'JayK said:
So where would you slot him compared to some other guys with ADPs around the same spot? Here's how I see it:Ingram Best GreeneWellsMathews
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Best IngramGreeneMathewsWells
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Interesting travdogg... so you've gotta be a firm believer that he will stay healthy most of the year AND hold off Harrison to retain most of the touches to rate him that high, I take it?
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I certainly think he'll hold off Harrison, staying healthy is a 50-50 bet I think, but if he does, I think he has borderline top-5 upside. Ingram is the only other guy who has anywhere near that upside, but he likely won't get the cahnce unless something happens to Thomas and/or Sproles, though I think Ingram could put up something like 900 yards and 14 TD's just by being the Saints "keep the lead" back.
 
I think the decision about whether or not you pull the trigger on Best depends on what you are drafting him to BE on your team. If you have a reliable #1 RB and he is your #2 then the "swinging for the fences" is probably well worth it; he could definately end up a Top 10 if he doesn't get hurt. But in one of my leagues, a three player keeper league with only a few of the top guys available to draft this year, I am looking for a #2 with MJD as my #1, and the injury risk is just too much to risk given that MJD is a risk too (I'm leaning towards Ingram). Likewise, if you go WR/WR early and you are looking to fill a #1 RB slot with "high upside" players, I think he becomes too risky as your #1 even though he may be one of the ultimate upside players out there; his floor is just to low (IMHO). Course I DID have him last year, so that colors my opinions, I think...

 
'travdogg said:
'JayK said:
'travdogg said:
'JayK said:
So where would you slot him compared to some other guys with ADPs around the same spot? Here's how I see it:Ingram Best GreeneWellsMathews
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Best IngramGreeneMathewsWells
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Interesting travdogg... so you've gotta be a firm believer that he will stay healthy most of the year AND hold off Harrison to retain most of the touches to rate him that high, I take it?
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I certainly think he'll hold off Harrison, staying healthy is a 50-50 bet I think, but if he does, I think he has borderline top-5 upside. Ingram is the only other guy who has anywhere near that upside, but he likely won't get the cahnce unless something happens to Thomas and/or Sproles, though I think Ingram could put up something like 900 yards and 14 TD's just by being the Saints "keep the lead" back.
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Just FYI... I have no doubt he'll hold off Harrison if healthy, didn't mean to imply he wouldn't. I was thinking more along the lines of Harrison cutting into his touches if the team wants to minimize the wear and tear on a "injury-risk" type player...
 
Even if he doesn't stay healthy, Harrison is a fairly cheap handcuff to grab and he'll put up some nice numbers if Best does go down I think. Best is a solid 3rd round pick IMO - and I've grabbed him in the 4th and in the 5th in my two money leagues so far. Nice value if you ask me.

 
Tell me about it.

I draft for a family member in a guppy league. Best was the last pick in the 7th round. The worst part is I didn't even take him.

In my drafts, he's been a 4th/5th rounder and he went for around that in my auction league.

 
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