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Is Mark Sanchez a good NFL QB? If not will he ever be? (1 Viewer)
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jurb26
Footballguy
I don't think Sanchez is a bad as he is being made out to be right now. The Jets Oline is playing horribly and it is taking a sever toll on him. That said, I think he is a bellow average starter in the NFL. He is not a franchise caliber QB and the NYJ should look to upgrade in the next few years.
stronger88
Footballguy
You can't really expect much out of him with a bad o-line and a non-existent running game. It's not working out too well for Big Ben either. That being said, he's clearly a below average starter.Bills_Fan11
Footballguy
I was surprised that people thought it was ridiculous to even compare the two after Taylor made those comments. If they swapped teams the last couple years the teams wouldn't have been much different and Sanchize wouldn't have this rep for being "clutch" and "having it" and "a winner". I don't want to hear about how bad his OL was last night after he's had the benefit of an elite OL, running game, and defense for two years. Most QB's don't have those luxuries.
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Do you mean starting? or just on a roster?Please expand.
Khy
Footballguy
Since they drafted him I thought he was terrible. I refuse to even acknowledge his "Bad OLine". He has had one of the top 5 OLines and Rushing attacks for the past two seasons and still posted some of the lowest 16 game starter stats. He is lucky. I think this year with how bad the rest of the team is playing it will finally be noticed by the public and his coaches exactly how bad he really is...
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
He's a guy who could easily still blossom, but I don't like what I've seen so far.
Still, people forget how untested he was coming into the league. Very inexperienced, he should have stayed at USC for another season to polish his game.
Still, people forget how untested he was coming into the league. Very inexperienced, he should have stayed at USC for another season to polish his game.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
He's a poor man's Eli Manning. Someday he'll back his way into a Super Bowl ring because a ball bounced off the backup fullback's shoulder pads, and everyone will forget just how crappy he is.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Not to mention that bringing up the o-line when discussing Greene is met mostly w/ indifference & comments of how "below average" he is. I think both are below average at best, but the o-line problems clearly apply to both as well.
pilferthedawn
Footballguy
The running game has been terrible for the Jets this year primarily because defenses are stacking the box and forcing Sanchez to beat them.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
My guess is that being 4-2 as a starter in the playoffs (in his 1st 2 years), having never played a home game is why he is not benched after 2 losses in a row.He isn't great, will probably never be.No one is asking him to be.Sanchez didn't single handily win any playoff games, but he made some very important passes during the run.This is not Dilfer sitting back dinking/dunking, handing off to Jamal Lewis, and letting the greatest D in NFL history control the game.
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comfortably numb
Footballguy
Why not?We don't discuss QB's who struggle in towns outside NY market?
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Yes. Yes.
He is a fine quarterback who can help a team win a ton of games. He strongest assets are that he has a really good pocket awareness and pocket maneuverability.
His problem, is that he is not a gunslinger (he doesnt have that mentality and doesn't try to force it) and the team will struggle at times when its all on him.
He is a fine quarterback who can help a team win a ton of games. He strongest assets are that he has a really good pocket awareness and pocket maneuverability.
His problem, is that he is not a gunslinger (he doesnt have that mentality and doesn't try to force it) and the team will struggle at times when its all on him.
Hendo
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
This team missed the playoffs two straight years prior to his arrival and found themselves in the AFC championship after his subsequent arrival. He can help his team win plenty.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I think he's a middle of the road guy who is adjusting to his new role. He is more even than Eli. He is better than probably 10-15 starter. About as good as Kolb.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
what a disaster last night..Hope that is the last we see of that.
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
Starting, for sure, he is worthy backup material...but not really capable or mature enough to manage an NFL offense. His stats are already stated above, plus he had the lowest QBR, in its short time granted, but still very awful just the same.
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
did you say this with a straight face?Pocket awareness? Did you see the first offensive play for the Jets last night?"At times" when its all on him? You sound like a fan, as to someone who really is watching the games.He is not accurate, he is not a game manager, he is not mobile, he is a turnover machine...I'm sorry, what is his assets again?
Don't you think that the above statement should be made about Rex Ryan's arrival and not Mark Sanchez's. I would hardly think that Sanchez's 2400 yards passing and 12 TD's compared to 20 INT's helped his team win in 2009
TLEF316
Footballguy
He's just so frustrating. After a night like last night, its so hard to be positive about him. He was an absolute deer in the headlights and showed nothing.
But I've seen him make some great throws and lead some huge drives. He has the ability to make things happen. He has played very poorly this year, but the team is really letting him down as well. O-line and Shonne Greene have been absolutely awful. And missing Mangold for last night's game just made it impossible with Ngata and the Ravens lined up across from him.
I'm absolutely down on Mark right now (even though we go to the same dry cleaners) and I'm not excusing his play so far, but there is still some hope.
But I've seen him make some great throws and lead some huge drives. He has the ability to make things happen. He has played very poorly this year, but the team is really letting him down as well. O-line and Shonne Greene have been absolutely awful. And missing Mangold for last night's game just made it impossible with Ngata and the Ravens lined up across from him.
I'm absolutely down on Mark right now (even though we go to the same dry cleaners) and I'm not excusing his play so far, but there is still some hope.
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
I never understood this...How is it the RBs fault when the line is in the backfield before you get the ball?LT had 3 carries for -3 yards. Its the o-line not Shonn Greene.
nysportsfan
Footballguy
He can't block for himself, so until that gets figured out, he will stink.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Link to the waiver of T-Joke, please.
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Donsmith753
Footballguy
Alex Smith is calling his mom right now.
TLEF316
Footballguy
The o-line has been bad this year. No question about it. He hasn't had any room. But they were good last year and Greene still stunk. Only 4.1 a carry despite limited touches and that great O-line. He has 5 career TD's on 344 carries. For a guy with his size, he doesn't move the pile well at all. Never falls forward for that extra yard. Below average speed, mediocre (and that's being generous) vision and poor pass catching skills(Yes, he has caught some balls this year, but he basically has to set up camp in order to catch it, so he never gets any yards after the catch)He's absolutely a below average running back. Maybe well below average.'JuSt CuZ said:
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TidesofWar
Footballguy
Colin Cowherd thinks so..............
bigdaddydave
Footballguy
He's a bum. thats all he is.
Stepping out of fantasy for a moment, what would you think if you were a Jets fan?
[*]Sanchez is the QB that led you to two straight AFC Championship games
[*]Stafford is clearly the hotter guy at the moment
Me? I'll take Stafford. But a die-hard Jets fan might have to think about it for a while...
[*]Sanchez is the QB that led you to two straight AFC Championship games
[*]Stafford is clearly the hotter guy at the moment
Me? I'll take Stafford. But a die-hard Jets fan might have to think about it for a while...
I never liked the guy coming out of USC and think he has been lucky to be thrown into a good situation where he has played marginally well at times. As a Pats fan I'm elated that the Jets didn't stay put and take Freeman as opposed to giving up picks to move up and grab Sanchez. With that being said he is a must start next week vs our d, as is pretty much every qb not named Campbell. 300 yards and 3td's guaranteed 
I'm a Jets fan and have preferred Stafford over Sanchez going back to when they were both collegians. I was against the team drafting Sanchez. I am not pleased with his play.
jurb26
Footballguy
Didn't Campbell throw for 350 vs. the Pats?I never liked the guy coming out of USC and think he has been lucky to be thrown into a good situation where he has played marginally well at times. As a Pats fan I'm elated that the Jets didn't stay put and take Freeman as opposed to giving up picks to move up and grab Sanchez. With that being said he is a must start next week vs our d, as is pretty much every qb not named Campbell. 300 yards and 3td's guaranteed
Dought Man
Footballguy
Stafford makes plays/throws that former QB's and NFL people appreciate. Sanchez is the quasi game manager for the Jets. This season, when they needed him...he has proven he cannot put the team on his back and shoulder the load. No comparison between the two.
EBF
Footballguy
Sanchez has shown the ability to string together good games at crucial times. His playoff numbers have been much better than his regular season numbers through two years. It's not just that he wins games in the playoffs. He actually seems to play better. More accurate. More yards per throw. Fewer mistakes.
During the regular season he's a real Jekyl and Hyde though. You never really know what you're going to get from him in any given week. I don't think he's a terrible player, but he might not end up being much better than a Grossman/Orton/Campbell type. I am beginning to lose patience with him, as "lack of experience" is no longer a valid excuse.
During the regular season he's a real Jekyl and Hyde though. You never really know what you're going to get from him in any given week. I don't think he's a terrible player, but he might not end up being much better than a Grossman/Orton/Campbell type. I am beginning to lose patience with him, as "lack of experience" is no longer a valid excuse.
Hendo
Footballguy
um....
i beg to differ, a die hard jet fan would be even more scrutinized of this joke player
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Seriously? Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in the league all he did his first couple years was land on the IR. Is this schtick?
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Sanchez is a perfect companion for the QB who occupies the other side of the Meadowlands - middling talent with a strong will and sense of the spotlight that will keep him from ever being coached into the QB he thinks he is.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Aaron Rodgers didnt even play in his first few years. The first year he played he was pretty damn good. Try to keep up here.Think about what? I wonder if we would have won the superbowl by now with Stafford?
Don't think he'll ever be a top 10 NFL QB. Wouldn't be surprised if NYJ draft a QB in the early rounds next draft. Yeah 2 NFC conference appearances but the first one was a fluke. Last year he was serviceable.
Don't think he accurate enough nor has a strong enough arm. Not exactly the biggest guy either. Surprised he's been as injury-free up to this point.
Don't think he accurate enough nor has a strong enough arm. Not exactly the biggest guy either. Surprised he's been as injury-free up to this point.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Well, he's a multimillionaire bum who nails models all the time while amassing the best record of any qb in the 2009 draft class.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Thank you for illustrating my point, that your first statement was false.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
only 4 QBS in the history of the NFL have won as many road playoff games as Sanchez.he's the only QB to win his first 3 NFL starts as a rookie.we need to distinguish between NFL and fantasy with Sanchez. Fantsy-wise, not a very good QB< at least not yet.NFL-wise, name me a QB in the history of the league, who's led his team to two consecutive AFC Championship games in each of his first two seasons in the NFL??if you watch the Jets, you'll notice that their line is their weakness...once they get that working, I'd expect the Jets to win some ball games..Pitt is in the same boat, they have serious O-line problems, only they have to wait their bye to give every that extra week's rest ( week 11)..that's a long time from now..
