Is Quentin Tarantino a hack? (1 Viewer)

[KarmaPolice]

Yes (28 votes [11.97%] - View)

 

[bshell27]

There is no point to him but to make others point to him.

This. The movies are entertaining, even my wife was intrigued by the dialogue from IB, but I 100% agree with this statement. Also, I did not enjoy Daryl Hannah's performance in the KB movies.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Yes (28 votes [11.97%] - View)

Yeah, that's 28 people that don't know what hack means.hack

noun 1. a person, as an artist or writer, who exploits, for money, his or her creative ability or training in the production of dull, unimaginative, and trite work; one who produces banal and mediocre work in the hope of gaining commercial success in the arts: As a painter, he was little more than a hack. 2. a professional who renounces or surrenders individual independence, integrity, belief, etc., in return for money or other reward in the performance of a task normally thought of as involving a strong personal commitment: a political hack.

 

[jdoggydogg]

There is no point to him but to make others point to him.

This. The movies are entertaining, even my wife was intrigued by the dialogue from IB, but I 100% agree with this statement.

No.Does he want attention and adulation? Of course. We all want that. But the only value in that statement is that it's concise.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Yes (28 votes [11.97%] - View)

I think its almost more funny that 8 voted "not decided"...I can see QT not being some peoples cup of tea, but he's been around 20 years now and directed/wrote almost 10 movies...I think everyone's - to each their own - mind should be made up.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Yes (28 votes [11.97%] - View)

I think its almost more funny that 8 voted "not decided"...I can see QT not being some peoples cup of tea, but he's been around 20 years now and directed/wrote almost 10 movies...I think everyone's - to each their own - mind should be made up.

These are like the "undecided" voters in presidential elections. How are you undecided in September?

 

[jdoggydogg]

Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs are returning to theaters for one night only

If you've never gotten the chance to see what Marcellus Wallace looks like on the big screen, here is your chance to confirm that he does not, in fact, look like a 20-foot-tall #####: Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction will get a limited theatrical re-release on December 6 as part of a "Tarantino XX" event celebrating his 20-year career—an event that fortuitously coincides with the release of Django Unchained later that month, and which will be paired with a special feature looking back at his films, as well as a selection of Tarantino-picked trailers for the movies that inspired him. Tarantino's debut, Reservoir Dogs, will get its own one-night-only screening on Dec. 4 to celebrate its 20th anniversary, in case the recent news of a Smells Like Teen Spirit sitcom had not already confirmed your increasing decrepitude. (Consider this: You are now as nostalgically removed from Reservoir Dogs as its characters are from K-BILLY's Super Sounds Of The '70s.)

Go here for a list of participating cities and to purchase tickets.

 

[mon]

Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs are returning to theaters for one night only

If you've never gotten the chance to see what Marcellus Wallace looks like on the big screen, here is your chance to confirm that he does not, in fact, look like a 20-foot-tall #####: Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction will get a limited theatrical re-release on December 6 as part of a "Tarantino XX" event celebrating his 20-year career—an event that fortuitously coincides with the release of Django Unchained later that month, and which will be paired with a special feature looking back at his films, as well as a selection of Tarantino-picked trailers for the movies that inspired him. Tarantino's debut, Reservoir Dogs, will get its own one-night-only screening on Dec. 4 to celebrate its 20th anniversary, in case the recent news of a Smells Like Teen Spirit sitcom had not already confirmed your increasing decrepitude. (Consider this: You are now as nostalgically removed from Reservoir Dogs as its characters are from K-BILLY's Super Sounds Of The '70s.)

Go here for a list of participating cities and to purchase tickets.

I'll never forget watching Pulp Fiction the first time. It was in a small, packed theater in Hawaii and we got stuck sitting in like the third or fourth row. There's no other way to describe it other than to say my mind was blown. No other film has ever had such an impact on me. At the time, I didn't know who Tarantino was and had never watched Rez Dogs. I walked out of that theater tripping -- all I could say was "Wow".

 

[jdoggydogg]

Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs are returning to theaters for one night only

If you've never gotten the chance to see what Marcellus Wallace looks like on the big screen, here is your chance to confirm that he does not, in fact, look like a 20-foot-tall #####: Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction will get a limited theatrical re-release on December 6 as part of a "Tarantino XX" event celebrating his 20-year career—an event that fortuitously coincides with the release of Django Unchained later that month, and which will be paired with a special feature looking back at his films, as well as a selection of Tarantino-picked trailers for the movies that inspired him. Tarantino's debut, Reservoir Dogs, will get its own one-night-only screening on Dec. 4 to celebrate its 20th anniversary, in case the recent news of a Smells Like Teen Spirit sitcom had not already confirmed your increasing decrepitude. (Consider this: You are now as nostalgically removed from Reservoir Dogs as its characters are from K-BILLY's Super Sounds Of The '70s.)

Go here for a list of participating cities and to purchase tickets.

I'll never forget watching Pulp Fiction the first time. It was in a small, packed theater in Hawaii and we got stuck sitting in like the third or fourth row. There's no other way to describe it other than to say my mind was blown. No other film has ever had such an impact on me. At the time, I didn't know who Tarantino was and had never watched Rez Dogs. I walked out of that theater tripping -- all I could say was "Wow".

I just bought tickets to the San Rafael show.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Pulp Fiction 20th anniversary screening tomorrow night around the country.

Also features classic trailers hand picked by Tarantino.

 

[wikkidpissah]

*faints with joy*

 

[17seconds]

Pulp Fiction 20th anniversary screening tomorrow night around the country.

Also features classic trailers hand picked by Tarantino.

Was really excited about this and Dogs but then I looked it up. 1 showing. I'm not dealing with a sellout/line situation, no way. If it was playing for a week and I could get in like a normal movie I'd go see both of them for sure.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Pulp Fiction 20th anniversary screening tomorrow night around the country.

Also features classic trailers hand picked by Tarantino.

Was really excited about this and Dogs but then I looked it up. 1 showing. I'm not dealing with a sellout/line situation, no way. If it was playing for a week and I could get in like a normal movie I'd go see both of them for sure.

I'm willing to wait in line to see this in the theater once.

 

[peaces]

I took my then girl friend, now wife to see Pulp Fiction when it first came out for Valentine's Day. She walked out during the male on male rape scene. I saw the the rest of the movie a few months later when it came out on video tape. Funny, now she likes that movie, but still not that one part.

 

[17seconds]

Pulp Fiction 20th anniversary screening tomorrow night around the country.

Also features classic trailers hand picked by Tarantino.

Was really excited about this and Dogs but then I looked it up. 1 showing. I'm not dealing with a sellout/line situation, no way. If it was playing for a week and I could get in like a normal movie I'd go see both of them for sure.

I'm willing to wait in line to see this in the theater once.

The whole hubub would bother me. Same reason I've never gone to a Lebowskifest even though I worship that movie.

 

[General Malaise]

Sorry that you took my words as an insult, because that's not at all what I intended. Jokes don't always work in writing.

I'm just saying that Tarantino being a nerd isn't germane to his relevance as an artist. Furthermore, when you start analyzing artists at such a personal, molecular level - they all look pretty bad.

And i couldnt disagree more heartily. This isnt molecular at all - it is the macro-universal driver of why he does what he does and why many defend him so strongly.Thing is, everyone under 40yo is the butt of a enormous joke and, most ironically of all, it is one of your own making. The gist of it is that you dont get the original joke upon which all mass media is based.

Media is, by its nature, self-referential. Those who used it best during the dawn of massmedia (1970s) could satisfy wide audiences of squares with gimmicks and then wink at the media-hip about what they were getting away with. The modern term for it is deconstructing but, back then, it was so much more than that.

Baby Boomers George Lucas & Stephen Spielberg stole the forms of the Western & Saturday matinee serial, added gadgets & gimmicks, and we Boomers all had a good giggle that these guys became the envy of every grownup & the hero of every kid and put our gen on display as adults for the first time with an act of plagiarism. Howard Stern took on talk radio and gave it the heft of the old serials & variety programs by using fart jokes & lesbian dial-a-date to give it visual proxy again. What's more, the yahoos & gumbas who became Stern fanatics and eleveted him as a hero of All-Media (because of the fart jokes & topless lesbians) became as much a butt of the joke as the poor saps who would get nekkid or stuff things up dey butt. David Letterman took late night and made it the launch platform for an entire new language, sarcasm. The reason he got so pissed when Leno got the Tonight Show is that the whole point of his efforts was to get daddy's show by making fun of daddy.

Then something weird happened. The generation who were children during this era started taking all the jokes & pranks seriously. There was all of a sudden massive conventions at which to make self-defining exercises of these deconstructions. Time-killers became time-spenders and eventually time-transcenders. Everything conceived as in-things became out-things, with the new practitioners taking these hijinks at face value. Then when, first-person video games & high-concept 'rassling & reality shows came along as celebrations of the meaningless there was an entire audience waiting to integrate them into society as actual culture, instead of satires upon culture. And the fanboy was born.

And Quentin Tarantino is the Pied Piper of that anti-reality. 14yo or so when Star Wars came out, latchkey kid who, if we're to believe his legend, grew up on exploitation films. Too insecure to develop his own personality organically, instead of suffering the pains of that failure, he made an uncanny decision to forego having a personality at all. He decided to assemble an id out of parts like an 80s whiz kid building a prom date. His victory was in having more vicarious defenses than his enemies had actual weapons. Though very few Gen X & Yers did what QT did, the fanboys that most of you became were just waiting for someone like him to come along, the man with the junk answers to junk life.

Pardon me, but i cant consider the produce of this all to be art. The first ingredient of art is desire; the second, originality; the finishing factor, awareness. QT cant be an artist because the only time he uses any of these ingredients is to remain stunted, to be cynical about his fortunes, those of his creations & his followers. Getting tired of playing the "old" card here but, as one who was in on the original joke which became your creed, i cant take him or you seriously, by & large. You can't replace your teachers with the class clown and then ask me to consider you educated. nufced

I only marginally understood this post, but what I did fathom made me swoon a little.

 

[Gr00vus]

Sorry that you took my words as an insult, because that's not at all what I intended. Jokes don't always work in writing.

I'm just saying that Tarantino being a nerd isn't germane to his relevance as an artist. Furthermore, when you start analyzing artists at such a personal, molecular level - they all look pretty bad.

And i couldnt disagree more heartily. This isnt molecular at all - it is the macro-universal driver of why he does what he does and why many defend him so strongly.Thing is, everyone under 40yo is the butt of a enormous joke and, most ironically of all, it is one of your own making. The gist of it is that you dont get the original joke upon which all mass media is based.

Media is, by its nature, self-referential. Those who used it best during the dawn of massmedia (1970s) could satisfy wide audiences of squares with gimmicks and then wink at the media-hip about what they were getting away with. The modern term for it is deconstructing but, back then, it was so much more than that.

Baby Boomers George Lucas & Stephen Spielberg stole the forms of the Western & Saturday matinee serial, added gadgets & gimmicks, and we Boomers all had a good giggle that these guys became the envy of every grownup & the hero of every kid and put our gen on display as adults for the first time with an act of plagiarism. Howard Stern took on talk radio and gave it the heft of the old serials & variety programs by using fart jokes & lesbian dial-a-date to give it visual proxy again. What's more, the yahoos & gumbas who became Stern fanatics and eleveted him as a hero of All-Media (because of the fart jokes & topless lesbians) became as much a butt of the joke as the poor saps who would get nekkid or stuff things up dey butt. David Letterman took late night and made it the launch platform for an entire new language, sarcasm. The reason he got so pissed when Leno got the Tonight Show is that the whole point of his efforts was to get daddy's show by making fun of daddy.

Then something weird happened. The generation who were children during this era started taking all the jokes & pranks seriously. There was all of a sudden massive conventions at which to make self-defining exercises of these deconstructions. Time-killers became time-spenders and eventually time-transcenders. Everything conceived as in-things became out-things, with the new practitioners taking these hijinks at face value. Then when, first-person video games & high-concept 'rassling & reality shows came along as celebrations of the meaningless there was an entire audience waiting to integrate them into society as actual culture, instead of satires upon culture. And the fanboy was born.

And Quentin Tarantino is the Pied Piper of that anti-reality. 14yo or so when Star Wars came out, latchkey kid who, if we're to believe his legend, grew up on exploitation films. Too insecure to develop his own personality organically, instead of suffering the pains of that failure, he made an uncanny decision to forego having a personality at all. He decided to assemble an id out of parts like an 80s whiz kid building a prom date. His victory was in having more vicarious defenses than his enemies had actual weapons. Though very few Gen X & Yers did what QT did, the fanboys that most of you became were just waiting for someone like him to come along, the man with the junk answers to junk life.

Pardon me, but i cant consider the produce of this all to be art. The first ingredient of art is desire; the second, originality; the finishing factor, awareness. QT cant be an artist because the only time he uses any of these ingredients is to remain stunted, to be cynical about his fortunes, those of his creations & his followers. Getting tired of playing the "old" card here but, as one who was in on the original joke which became your creed, i cant take him or you seriously, by & large. You can't replace your teachers with the class clown and then ask me to consider you educated. nufced

I only marginally understood this post, but what I did fathom made me swoon a little.

So, if I find David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet and Dune comedic - is that a good thing or a bad thing in wikkidpissah's world? Just trying to get a frame of reference here.

 

[General Malaise]

Sorry that you took my words as an insult, because that's not at all what I intended. Jokes don't always work in writing.

I'm just saying that Tarantino being a nerd isn't germane to his relevance as an artist. Furthermore, when you start analyzing artists at such a personal, molecular level - they all look pretty bad.

And i couldnt disagree more heartily. This isnt molecular at all - it is the macro-universal driver of why he does what he does and why many defend him so strongly.Thing is, everyone under 40yo is the butt of a enormous joke and, most ironically of all, it is one of your own making. The gist of it is that you dont get the original joke upon which all mass media is based.

Media is, by its nature, self-referential. Those who used it best during the dawn of massmedia (1970s) could satisfy wide audiences of squares with gimmicks and then wink at the media-hip about what they were getting away with. The modern term for it is deconstructing but, back then, it was so much more than that.

Baby Boomers George Lucas & Stephen Spielberg stole the forms of the Western & Saturday matinee serial, added gadgets & gimmicks, and we Boomers all had a good giggle that these guys became the envy of every grownup & the hero of every kid and put our gen on display as adults for the first time with an act of plagiarism. Howard Stern took on talk radio and gave it the heft of the old serials & variety programs by using fart jokes & lesbian dial-a-date to give it visual proxy again. What's more, the yahoos & gumbas who became Stern fanatics and eleveted him as a hero of All-Media (because of the fart jokes & topless lesbians) became as much a butt of the joke as the poor saps who would get nekkid or stuff things up dey butt. David Letterman took late night and made it the launch platform for an entire new language, sarcasm. The reason he got so pissed when Leno got the Tonight Show is that the whole point of his efforts was to get daddy's show by making fun of daddy.

Then something weird happened. The generation who were children during this era started taking all the jokes & pranks seriously. There was all of a sudden massive conventions at which to make self-defining exercises of these deconstructions. Time-killers became time-spenders and eventually time-transcenders. Everything conceived as in-things became out-things, with the new practitioners taking these hijinks at face value. Then when, first-person video games & high-concept 'rassling & reality shows came along as celebrations of the meaningless there was an entire audience waiting to integrate them into society as actual culture, instead of satires upon culture. And the fanboy was born.

And Quentin Tarantino is the Pied Piper of that anti-reality. 14yo or so when Star Wars came out, latchkey kid who, if we're to believe his legend, grew up on exploitation films. Too insecure to develop his own personality organically, instead of suffering the pains of that failure, he made an uncanny decision to forego having a personality at all. He decided to assemble an id out of parts like an 80s whiz kid building a prom date. His victory was in having more vicarious defenses than his enemies had actual weapons. Though very few Gen X & Yers did what QT did, the fanboys that most of you became were just waiting for someone like him to come along, the man with the junk answers to junk life.

Pardon me, but i cant consider the produce of this all to be art. The first ingredient of art is desire; the second, originality; the finishing factor, awareness. QT cant be an artist because the only time he uses any of these ingredients is to remain stunted, to be cynical about his fortunes, those of his creations & his followers. Getting tired of playing the "old" card here but, as one who was in on the original joke which became your creed, i cant take him or you seriously, by & large. You can't replace your teachers with the class clown and then ask me to consider you educated. nufced

I only marginally understood this post, but what I did fathom made me swoon a little.

So, if I find David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet and Dune comedic - is that a good thing or a bad thing in wikkidpissah's world? Just trying to get a frame of reference here.

I'm afraid to admit what I like. I do like "Wild at Heart" quite a bit, but I think that's because I was tagging a girl a few years older than me in college who really liked that movie. But I would have pretended to like church and figure skating to stay in between her thighs.

 

[General Malaise]

Four Rooms is an absolutely atrocious movie.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

So, if I find David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet and Dune comedic - is that a good thing or a bad thing in wikkidpissah's world? Just trying to get a frame of reference here.

Dennis Hopper was hilarious in Blue Velvet.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

"Django...the D is silent."

I know where I will be on Christmas, this movie looks fantastic.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Sorry that you took my words as an insult, because that's not at all what I intended. Jokes don't always work in writing.

I'm just saying that Tarantino being a nerd isn't germane to his relevance as an artist. Furthermore, when you start analyzing artists at such a personal, molecular level - they all look pretty bad.

And i couldnt disagree more heartily. This isnt molecular at all - it is the macro-universal driver of why he does what he does and why many defend him so strongly.Thing is, everyone under 40yo is the butt of a enormous joke and, most ironically of all, it is one of your own making. The gist of it is that you dont get the original joke upon which all mass media is based.

Media is, by its nature, self-referential. Those who used it best during the dawn of massmedia (1970s) could satisfy wide audiences of squares with gimmicks and then wink at the media-hip about what they were getting away with. The modern term for it is deconstructing but, back then, it was so much more than that.

Baby Boomers George Lucas & Stephen Spielberg stole the forms of the Western & Saturday matinee serial, added gadgets & gimmicks, and we Boomers all had a good giggle that these guys became the envy of every grownup & the hero of every kid and put our gen on display as adults for the first time with an act of plagiarism. Howard Stern took on talk radio and gave it the heft of the old serials & variety programs by using fart jokes & lesbian dial-a-date to give it visual proxy again. What's more, the yahoos & gumbas who became Stern fanatics and eleveted him as a hero of All-Media (because of the fart jokes & topless lesbians) became as much a butt of the joke as the poor saps who would get nekkid or stuff things up dey butt. David Letterman took late night and made it the launch platform for an entire new language, sarcasm. The reason he got so pissed when Leno got the Tonight Show is that the whole point of his efforts was to get daddy's show by making fun of daddy.

Then something weird happened. The generation who were children during this era started taking all the jokes & pranks seriously. There was all of a sudden massive conventions at which to make self-defining exercises of these deconstructions. Time-killers became time-spenders and eventually time-transcenders. Everything conceived as in-things became out-things, with the new practitioners taking these hijinks at face value. Then when, first-person video games & high-concept 'rassling & reality shows came along as celebrations of the meaningless there was an entire audience waiting to integrate them into society as actual culture, instead of satires upon culture. And the fanboy was born.

And Quentin Tarantino is the Pied Piper of that anti-reality. 14yo or so when Star Wars came out, latchkey kid who, if we're to believe his legend, grew up on exploitation films. Too insecure to develop his own personality organically, instead of suffering the pains of that failure, he made an uncanny decision to forego having a personality at all. He decided to assemble an id out of parts like an 80s whiz kid building a prom date. His victory was in having more vicarious defenses than his enemies had actual weapons. Though very few Gen X & Yers did what QT did, the fanboys that most of you became were just waiting for someone like him to come along, the man with the junk answers to junk life.

Pardon me, but i cant consider the produce of this all to be art. The first ingredient of art is desire; the second, originality; the finishing factor, awareness. QT cant be an artist because the only time he uses any of these ingredients is to remain stunted, to be cynical about his fortunes, those of his creations & his followers. Getting tired of playing the "old" card here but, as one who was in on the original joke which became your creed, i cant take him or you seriously, by & large. You can't replace your teachers with the class clown and then ask me to consider you educated. nufced

I only marginally understood this post, but what I did fathom made me swoon a little.

Think how i feel. Most guys my age get up a dozen times a night to pee. I have to explain myself to me at similar intervals to get any sleep at all....

 

[wikkidpissah]

So, if I find David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet and Dune comedic - is that a good thing or a bad thing in wikkidpissah's world? Just trying to get a frame of reference here.

Finding your own reason to laugh at anything is great and i think Lynch, whom i generally dont get or like, is a genuine enough auteur to support your doing so. QT, on the other hand, would survail all future laughter if he felt any directed at him and restage it with army men each night, like Napoleon over Eylau, in search of glib but mortal defense.

 

[17seconds]

Four Rooms is an absolutely atrocious movie.

Tarantino only did one scene and it's the best one.

 

[NCCommish]

So, if I find David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet and Dune comedic - is that a good thing or a bad thing in wikkidpissah's world? Just trying to get a frame of reference here.

Finding your own reason to laugh at anything is great and i think Lynch, whom i generally dont get or like, is a genuine enough auteur to support your doing so. QT, on the other hand, would survail all future laughter if he felt any directed at him and restage it with army men each night, like Napoleon over Eylau, in search of glib but mortal defense.

You know I love ya Wikkid but I really think you have seriously over thought QT. And to be honest it comes off as if the guy owes you money.

 

[wikkidpissah]

So, if I find David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet and Dune comedic - is that a good thing or a bad thing in wikkidpissah's world? Just trying to get a frame of reference here.

Finding your own reason to laugh at anything is great and i think Lynch, whom i generally dont get or like, is a genuine enough auteur to support your doing so. QT, on the other hand, would survail all future laughter if he felt any directed at him and restage it with army men each night, like Napoleon over Eylau, in search of glib but mortal defense.

You know I love ya Wikkid but I really think you have seriously over thought QT. And to be honest it comes off as if the guy owes you money.

I plead guilty to using him as a conduit for my hate of fanboys and the feckless glib of junk culture.

 

[NCCommish]

So, if I find David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet and Dune comedic - is that a good thing or a bad thing in wikkidpissah's world? Just trying to get a frame of reference here.

Finding your own reason to laugh at anything is great and i think Lynch, whom i generally dont get or like, is a genuine enough auteur to support your doing so. QT, on the other hand, would survail all future laughter if he felt any directed at him and restage it with army men each night, like Napoleon over Eylau, in search of glib but mortal defense.

You know I love ya Wikkid but I really think you have seriously over thought QT. And to be honest it comes off as if the guy owes you money.

I plead guilty to using him as a conduit for my hate of fanboys and the feckless glib of junk culture.

But aren't we all fanboys of something? I have seen you express more than a modicum of fandom for a few things. And really isn't all new culture junk culture to someone? For example a 1950's Wikkid might have thought everything after 1962 was junk culture. Now I am not saying current pop culture isn't full of junk. But really all pop culture has always been about finding the wheat in the chaff IMO.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Then something weird happened. The generation who were children during this era started taking all the jokes & pranks seriously. There was all of a sudden massive conventions at which to make self-defining exercises of these deconstructions. Time-killers became time-spenders and eventually time-transcenders. Everything conceived as in-things became out-things, with the new practitioners taking these hijinks at face value. Then when, first-person video games & high-concept 'rassling & reality shows came along as celebrations of the meaningless there was an entire audience waiting to integrate them into society as actual culture, instead of satires upon culture. And the fanboy was born.

 

[NCCommish]

Then something weird happened. The generation who were children during this era started taking all the jokes & pranks seriously. There was all of a sudden massive conventions at which to make self-defining exercises of these deconstructions. Time-killers became time-spenders and eventually time-transcenders. Everything conceived as in-things became out-things, with the new practitioners taking these hijinks at face value. Then when, first-person video games & high-concept 'rassling & reality shows came along as celebrations of the meaningless there was an entire audience waiting to integrate them into society as actual culture, instead of satires upon culture. And the fanboy was born.

Yeah I read the whole thing. Well written with some interesting points. I beg to differ though. We didn't just invent fanboys they have existed since we started having shared societal experiences and the ability to argue about them. There is nothing new under the sun.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Then something weird happened. The generation who were children during this era started taking all the jokes & pranks seriously. There was all of a sudden massive conventions at which to make self-defining exercises of these deconstructions. Time-killers became time-spenders and eventually time-transcenders. Everything conceived as in-things became out-things, with the new practitioners taking these hijinks at face value. Then when, first-person video games & high-concept 'rassling & reality shows came along as celebrations of the meaningless there was an entire audience waiting to integrate them into society as actual culture, instead of satires upon culture. And the fanboy was born.

Yeah I read the whole thing. Well written with some interesting points. I beg to differ though. We didn't just invent fanboys they have existed since we started having shared societal experiences and the ability to argue about them. There is nothing new under the sun.

i differentiate between fans & fanboys, the difference between diversion & pathology being the determinant. and it's not a get-off-my-lawn thing, either - i dont blame millenials for the way they are, for they, immersed from birth, never really chose against culture.

 

[zoonation]

I heart wiki.

What a talent.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Any Tarantino fan should make it a point to see Killing Them Softly.

 

[LHUCKS]

worst thread ever candidate

 

[CGRdrJoe]

If this was a triple feature with True Romance I would probably sleep outside the theater to ensure my seat...

 

[General Malaise]

Four Rooms is an absolutely atrocious movie.

Tarantino only did one scene and it's the best one.

The one with the lighter? Is that the one? I have a feeling that's what Wikkid means when he says QT is a thief.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I took my then girl friend, now wife to see Pulp Fiction when it first came out for Valentine's Day. She walked out during the male on male rape scene. I saw the the rest of the movie a few months later when it came out on video tape. Funny, now she likes that movie, but still not that one part.

When I showed my Reservoir Dogs DVD to Mrs. Dogg, she wanted to walk out on the torture scene. I said she had to stick it out and it was worth it. She was glad she stuck with it.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Pulp Fiction 20th anniversary screening tomorrow night around the country.

Also features classic trailers hand picked by Tarantino.

Was really excited about this and Dogs but then I looked it up. 1 showing. I'm not dealing with a sellout/line situation, no way. If it was playing for a week and I could get in like a normal movie I'd go see both of them for sure.

I'm willing to wait in line to see this in the theater once.

The whole hubub would bother me. Same reason I've never gone to a Lebowskifest even though I worship that movie.

I dunno. I saw Inglourious Basterds on opening night with a bunch of fan boys, and it was kinda fun

 

[General Malaise]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Four Rooms is an absolutely atrocious movie.

I only saw it once years ago, but I remember hating it.

 

[jdoggydogg]

So, if I find David Lynch movies like Blue Velvet and Dune comedic - is that a good thing or a bad thing in wikkidpissah's world? Just trying to get a frame of reference here.

Finding your own reason to laugh at anything is great and i think Lynch, whom i generally dont get or like, is a genuine enough auteur to support your doing so. QT, on the other hand, would survail all future laughter if he felt any directed at him and restage it with army men each night, like Napoleon over Eylau, in search of glib but mortal defense.

You know I love ya Wikkid but I really think you have seriously over thought QT. And to be honest it comes off as if the guy owes you money.

I plead guilty to using him as a conduit for my hate of fanboys and the feckless glib of junk culture.

But aren't we all fanboys of something? I have seen you express more than a modicum of fandom for a few things. And really isn't all new culture junk culture to someone? For example a 1950's Wikkid might have thought everything after 1962 was junk culture. Now I am not saying current pop culture isn't full of junk. But really all pop culture has always been about finding the wheat in the chaff IMO.

This is a really good point. To me, "fanboy" says you are so into something you look kind of silly. Sorry, but I love enthusiasm - especially when it's directed at art. I remember asking a fellow musician in college once who his influences were, and he said he didn't listen to popular music of any kind. He only listened to his own stuff. That just came across as pretentious.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

How eloquent.

 

[LHUCKS]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

You're better than this.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

How eloquent.

This came across more crass than I intended. I don't mind people hating a movie. It's just that "stupid" doesn't really say much.

 

[General Malaise]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

How eloquent.

This came across more crass than I intended. I don't mind people hating a movie. It's just that "stupid" doesn't really say much.

I could type up 17 paragraphs of why it was stupid or I could just sum it up succinctly with one word. I enjoyed the opening scene. The rest of movie was an excuse to show how much special effects gore Tarantino could afford and an exercise in fantasy history. You didn't think the murder of Hitler was just a touch silly? Sorry, but I hated it and I didn't care for the movie at all. Except for the opening scene.

 

[General Malaise]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

You're better than this.

Taking posting lessons in etiquette from you is like accepting dieting tips from Chris Christie.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

You're better than this.

Taking posting lessons in etiquette from you is like accepting dieting tips from Chris Christie.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

How eloquent.

This came across more crass than I intended. I don't mind people hating a movie. It's just that "stupid" doesn't really say much.

I could type up 17 paragraphs of why it was stupid or I could just sum it up succinctly with one word. I enjoyed the opening scene. The rest of movie was an excuse to show how much special effects gore Tarantino could afford and an exercise in fantasy history. You didn't think the murder of Hitler was just a touch silly? Sorry, but I hated it and I didn't care for the movie at all. Except for the opening scene.

What's wrong with silly?

 

[General Malaise]

Inglorious Basterds was stupid.

How eloquent.

This came across more crass than I intended. I don't mind people hating a movie. It's just that "stupid" doesn't really say much.

I could type up 17 paragraphs of why it was stupid or I could just sum it up succinctly with one word. I enjoyed the opening scene. The rest of movie was an excuse to show how much special effects gore Tarantino could afford and an exercise in fantasy history. You didn't think the murder of Hitler was just a touch silly? Sorry, but I hated it and I didn't care for the movie at all. Except for the opening scene.

What's wrong with silly?

Nothing...if I'm watching Naked Gun or Hangover. And silly might not have been the best adjective, but I hated the fact that Hitler was assassinated in the movie. I'm sure there are websites devoted to the pure genius of it all and I've skimmed over the whole Tarnatino movie universe stuff and that's neat and all, but at the end of the day, I just want to be entertained by movies and I want the movies to make sense. As much as I wanted to like Inglorious Basterds, I did not like it and frankly, it made me mad. I liked Pulp Fiction. I loved True Romance. But Inglorious Basterds didn't work for me and I do think that as great as Tarantino has been at times, he's put up some real clunkers.

 

[Gr00vus]

I remember asking a fellow musician in college once who his influences were, and he said he didn't listen to popular music of any kind. He only listened to his own stuff. That just came across as pretentious.

And dishonest. I don't know who the 1st musician was, but every musician since that person has been influenced by other musicians.

 

[mon]

Pulp Fiction 20th anniversary screening tomorrow night around the country.

Also features classic trailers hand picked by Tarantino.

Went to the 2pm showing. Surprised that I almost had the theater to myself -- only three others.