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Is Tebow being given a Fair shot? (2 Viewers)
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matuski
Footballguy
Gustavo Fring
Footballguy
When you are a terrible NFL caliber QB you do not deserve a fair shot, no matter how good his character may be.
Hoss Style
Footballguy
I'd call $1MM for 2 games more than fair:
http://msn.foxsports.com/lacesout/tim-tebow-offered-1-million-to-play-football-in-russia/?ocid=ansfox11
http://msn.foxsports.com/lacesout/tim-tebow-offered-1-million-to-play-football-in-russia/?ocid=ansfox11
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Would he be required to pray to Putin after touchdowns?
netnalp
Footballguy
I think he'll end up as a college football analyst or call college games for one of the networks.
TLEF316
Footballguy
I've heard tons of people say this and I just don't get it. How is he going to analyze games on TV? From everything I've read, one of his biggest weaknesses is his complete inability to read or understand a playbook. How is he going to come up with original insight on a live television broadcast?
And on top of that, I'm not sure I've ever heard him speak a sentence that isn't A) about Jesus or B) filled with nothing but cliches about how he's "going to give it everything he has" or "will do whatever he has to to help the team". Quite frankly, he hasn't shown any ability to speak unless its about himself or his agenda.
ICON211
Footballguy
Agree. He does not come off as very intelligent. But then again his minions will probably tune in to every game he does.
Hooper31
Footballguy
How about now? I'm going with one.
netnalp
Footballguy
I think that's what it will be, the draw of his fanbase will watch him no matter what. If Dennis Miller was able to get an NFL gig for a few years, then Tebow should be able to get a college announcer opportunity.
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Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
I was wondering what happened to this thread. I argued that he was not given a fair shot in New York, and I stand by that. I don't believe the brain trust/clown car that is Jets management knew what to do with him, and he never even had an opportunity to show what he could do when the season was over and they could have played him with no risk to anything.
But I believe he was given a fair shot in New England. They don't sign people for nothing, and they evaluated him and found him lacking. They gave him chances to show what he could do and he didn't earn a spot. He wasn't super-embarrassing, but he didn't prove himself to be worthy of a backup role. Simple as that.
I wasn't rooting for or against him. I just thought he was treated poorly in Denver and deserved a fair shot. He got it. Case closed.
But I believe he was given a fair shot in New England. They don't sign people for nothing, and they evaluated him and found him lacking. They gave him chances to show what he could do and he didn't earn a spot. He wasn't super-embarrassing, but he didn't prove himself to be worthy of a backup role. Simple as that.
I wasn't rooting for or against him. I just thought he was treated poorly in Denver and deserved a fair shot. He got it. Case closed.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
He's certainly not an NFL starting qb by any means---but I do think that he should at least be a viable backup. Look at Buffalo with kevin kolb--the dude cant even walk across a rubber mat without getting hurt. In a league where blaine gabbert is given a starting job--I would say that it shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that a guy like tebow should at least be a backup qb for a team. I watched the 4th quarter of the jets vs patriots game--and honestly--I would almost bet that tebow would have at least not self destructed at the end like geno did. I'm not saying that he could or ever should start ahead of a guy like Geno-- all I'm saying is that there are some garbage qbs that are currently employed.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I like Duck Tales. Watch that with my 7 year old. She's also a big fan of Tiny Tunes.
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
He was given a fair shot, but it's all a question of judgment.PatsFanCT said:
Fox is a great coach and thought Tebow to be better than Brady Quinn (which he is).
Now Ryan (not such a great coach, or at least not as good as Fox) thinks Brady Quinn to be better than Tebow (which he is not) and gives him a 3rd string spot (and who knows maybe would put him in over Simms if it came to it) while cutting Tebow. That is absurd, this has already been proven out as just plain wrong.
Now all of this is is ridiculous, but if we're talking the quality of current and past Jets 2nd/3rd string QBs here let's do it.
By the way, maybe the thread title should now be, "Is Tebow Being Given a Fair Shot In Russia?"
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
At least Miller was educated. I actually used a word I learned from him, defenestrate, in a sentence today. What would anyone ever learn from Tebow?
B-Deep
Footballguy
would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Well this is pretty simple, all Khan and Bradley have to do is explain why Tebow has zero chance to help this team well on its way to a 2-14 record win some games that people are paying $$$$$$$$$$$ to see.Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
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B-Deep
Footballguy
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
I wouldn't.would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
-QG
lod01
Footballguy
He will make them worse if they win enough games to lose out on Teddy Bridgewater, so yes he can do serious damage. However i don't see any patsies on the schedule where The Tebow can get lucky like he did in Denver.would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
Wadsworth
Footballguy
What kind of criteria is that? Lady Gaga being the head coach might not make the team any worse but should they hire her as well?would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
B-Deep
Footballguy
i dunno, is there a big Gaga fanbase in Jacksonville?What kind of criteria is that? Lady Gaga being the head coach might not make the team any worse but should they hire her as well?would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
and, are they losing a good coach if they hire her?
there is a big Tebow fan base, and they are not losing a good QB by signing him, unless he makes them win too many games
Wadsworth
Footballguy
The Tebow fan base in Jacksonville is not as strong as most outsiders seem to think. The majority of Jaguars fans want the team to improve with a clear goal for the future, not a circus sideshow. Tim had his chance to play here, he chose the Jets. But it will be fun to watch the hoopla.i dunno, is there a big Gaga fanbase in Jacksonville?What kind of criteria is that? Lady Gaga being the head coach might not make the team any worse but should they hire her as well?would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
and, are they losing a good coach if they hire her?
there is a big Tebow fan base, and they are not losing a good QB by signing him, unless he makes them win too many games
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ha, this cracks me up - GM-Coach discussion: "Well if we sign him we may actually win some games.... on the other hand, if we sign him we will probably win some games."He will make them worse if they win enough games to lose out on Teddy Bridgewater, so yes he can do serious damage. However i don't see any patsies on the schedule where The Tebow can get lucky like he did in Denver.would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
Wadsworth
Footballguy
The Jags need a "Suck for Luck" type of rally cry, maybe Take a knee for Teddy!Ha, this cracks me up - GM-Coach discussion: "Well if we sign him we may actually win some games.... on the other hand, if we sign him we will probably win some games."He will make them worse if they win enough games to lose out on Teddy Bridgewater, so yes he can do serious damage. However i don't see any patsies on the schedule where The Tebow can get lucky like he did in Denver.would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
B-Deep
Footballguy
Well, not to be too harsh, but i am not sure you have anything other than a circus side show at this pointThe Tebow fan base in Jacksonville is not as strong as most outsiders seem to think. The majority of Jaguars fans want the team to improve with a clear goal for the future, not a circus sideshow. Tim had his chance to play here, he chose the Jets. But it will be fun to watch the hoopla.i dunno, is there a big Gaga fanbase in Jacksonville?What kind of criteria is that? Lady Gaga being the head coach might not make the team any worse but should they hire her as well?would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
and, are they losing a good coach if they hire her?
there is a big Tebow fan base, and they are not losing a good QB by signing him, unless he makes them win too many games
and, rumor has it there was just a tebow rally...no other city had tebow rallies
if you think Tebow will stunt the development of this team more then henne or gabbert that's a valid reason. I am not sure what there is on this team to develop and i don't think he brings it down UNLESS he wins.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
The QB play has not been good, but with Blackmon out the Jags are very weak at WR behind Shorts, Marcedes Lewis is yet to play a down this season, the O-line has allowed 11 sacks in two games and now MJD is hurt. It is quite reasonable for the Jaguars to wait for the return of Blackmon, Lewis, MJD and hope they can sure up the O-line before bailing on Gabbert or even Henne. If you are rebuilding you want to get a look at what you have first. Judging Gabbert by one game against a pretty good KC defense without a starting WR and TE is shortsighted. They need to run their program and trust their evaluations not bring in a guy no other team in the NFL wants just to satisfy a small number of fans of a person, not the team.Well, not to be too harsh, but i am not sure you have anything other than a circus side show at this pointThe Tebow fan base in Jacksonville is not as strong as most outsiders seem to think. The majority of Jaguars fans want the team to improve with a clear goal for the future, not a circus sideshow. Tim had his chance to play here, he chose the Jets. But it will be fun to watch the hoopla.i dunno, is there a big Gaga fanbase in Jacksonville?What kind of criteria is that? Lady Gaga being the head coach might not make the team any worse but should they hire her as well?would you agree that Tebow cannot make the jags any worse?Tebow rally in Jax! Just when you think the madness will stop... he comes back from the grave!
and, are they losing a good coach if they hire her?
there is a big Tebow fan base, and they are not losing a good QB by signing him, unless he makes them win too many games
and, rumor has it there was just a tebow rally...no other city had tebow rallies
if you think Tebow will stunt the development of this team more then henne or gabbert that's a valid reason. I am not sure what there is on this team to develop and i don't think he brings it down UNLESS he wins.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Somewhere out there there is another Kurt Warner who really never has been given a fair shot.
It's not Tim Tebow, but that guy is out there now, selling cars, bagging groceries, selling insurance, coaching high school ball.
It's not Tim Tebow, but that guy is out there now, selling cars, bagging groceries, selling insurance, coaching high school ball.
B-Deep
Footballguy
and seriously
those helmets...not good!
i do not think i will ever get used to those
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I hope there's like zillions of people at this Rally right now
<apparently there's hidden ads on this website so I'm clipping out the link>
Though a part of me wonders if there's a bit of troll-work in the fine print:
"The universe is unflonding as it should."
"Signs, shirts, stickers or whatever. Every afternnoon until the JAGS cave, get on street corners and wave the TEBOW banner. Whenever you can. Get your friends, relatives, church, school, club, gang... your circle of influence."
(emphasis mine
)
-QG
<apparently there's hidden ads on this website so I'm clipping out the link>
Though a part of me wonders if there's a bit of troll-work in the fine print:
"The universe is unflonding as it should."
"Signs, shirts, stickers or whatever. Every afternnoon until the JAGS cave, get on street corners and wave the TEBOW banner. Whenever you can. Get your friends, relatives, church, school, club, gang... your circle of influence."
(emphasis mine
)-QG
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The Jags should be happy about this, the team is 0-2 and people are rallying.I hope there's like zillions of people at this Rally right now
http://www.jags-tebow.com/
Though a part of me wonders if there's a bit of troll-work in the fine print:
"The universe is unflonding as it should."
"Signs, shirts, stickers or whatever. Every afternnoon until the JAGS cave, get on street corners and wave the TEBOW banner. Whenever you can. Get your friends, relatives, church, school, club, gang... your circle of influence."
(emphasis mine
-QG
They care, they really care.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Aha - here's the answer - it's being organized by some Orlando sports radio host: https://twitter.com/BianchiWrites
-QG
-QG
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Yea, Bianchi has been beating the Tebow drum for years. He actually can't stand the Jaguars and like many in Orlando feels slighted that the local TV stations are forced to carry the Jags games.
B-Deep
Footballguy
that site is REALLY badI hope there's like zillions of people at this Rally right now
http://www.jags-tebow.com/
Though a part of me wonders if there's a bit of troll-work in the fine print:
"The universe is unflonding as it should."
"Signs, shirts, stickers or whatever. Every afternnoon until the JAGS cave, get on street corners and wave the TEBOW banner. Whenever you can. Get your friends, relatives, church, school, club, gang... your circle of influence."
(emphasis mine
-QG
isn;t there one tebow fan with some basic web skills, or one tebow fan that knows someone with some basic web skills?
a herpes-infected monkey could make a better site than that
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
racing to register herpesinfectedmonkey.com...
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
All the more reason I suspect that it's really this Orlando radio dude/reporter that put this together - it's basically trolling.that site is REALLY badI hope there's like zillions of people at this Rally right now
<link deleted - according to one website there's hidden ads>
Though a part of me wonders if there's a bit of troll-work in the fine print:
"The universe is unflonding as it should."
"Signs, shirts, stickers or whatever. Every afternnoon until the JAGS cave, get on street corners and wave the TEBOW banner. Whenever you can. Get your friends, relatives, church, school, club, gang... your circle of influence."
(emphasis mine
-QG
isn;t there one tebow fan with some basic web skills, or one tebow fan that knows someone with some basic web skills?
a herpes-infected monkey could make a better site than that
-QG
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JaxBill
Footballguy
That Tebow rally was attended by an estimated several. Media outnumbered the participants.
http://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/16/4737812/crowds-surge-at-sign-tim-tebow-rally
http://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/16/4737812/crowds-surge-at-sign-tim-tebow-rally
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Like I wrote earlier, the local interest in Tebow is greatly exaggerated by the national media. There are a few loud zealots still jousting the windmills, but it is not close to the legions most outside of Jax assume.
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