Is Torain starting this week? (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

 

[OPS]

I don't know if he will start or not, but if he practices all week and is active, I will start him in a flex spot.

 

[Sir Chadwick]

No one knows for sure if he's starting right now. He may be a guy to keep on the bench a week to see how things pan out, but no way can you trust him. He could end up sitting after 1Q.

 

[silentmark]

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams ARE obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

Fixed that for ya

 

[JohnnyU]

No one knows for sure if he's starting right now. He may be a guy to keep on the bench a week to see how things pan out, but no way can you trust him. He could end up sitting after 1Q.

Considering this is a playoff week for most, some of us may not have the luxuary of waiting a week "to see how things pan out".

 

[Football Critic]

I'm sorry I am confused...I know what the risk is, but whats the reward?

He is a redskins runner comin back from an injury, so I see no reward.

(But now that I said that he will go for a hundy and a score)

 

[OPS]

I'm sorry I am confused...I know what the risk is, but whats the reward?He is a redskins runner comin back from an injury, so I see no reward.(But now that I said that he will go for a hundy and a score)

Tampa Bay is 26th against the run. Torain has had some solid games this year. There is some upside if he gets the majority of carries.

 

[dgreen]

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams ARE obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

Fixed that for ya

The coaching staff likes James Davis. Even after a seemingly bad performance against Minnesota, coaches said they liked what they saw from him. Against the Giants, he was 9-40 rushing and 4-41 receiving and Shanahan commented on how they didn't get to get Davis going very much. Davis (31 snaps) and Williams (32) split the load in that game. If Torain can't go, I could see Davis getting even more snaps. Could be more of a 40/20 split in snap count. If he can get 15-20 touches, I think Davis could provide some value for teams in desperate need of RB help.

The problem with anyone on Washington is that they simply don't score TDs. Davis could easily have 17 touches for 80-90 yards, but I wouldn't project him for a TD.

 

[Football Critic]

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams ARE obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

Fixed that for ya

The coaching staff SUCKS likes James Davis. Even after a seemingly bad performance against Minnesota, coaches said they liked what they saw from him. Against the Giants, he was 9-40 rushing and 4-41 receiving and Shanahan commented on how they didn't get to get Davis going very much. Davis (31 snaps) and Williams (32) split the load in that game. If Torain can't go, I could see Davis getting even more snaps. Could be more of a 40/20 split in snap count. If he can get 15-20 touches, I think Davis could provide some value for teams in desperate need of RB help.

The problem with anyone on Washington is that they simply don't score TDs. Davis could easily have 17 touches for 80-90 yards, but I wouldn't project him for a TD.

I fixed this one for ya!Shanny is a gawd awful coach who has made many bad decisions on the year, so many that I wonder why he is not already on the hot seat.

I have never liked Shanny as a coach.

 

[nysportsfan]

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams ARE obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

Fixed that for ya

The coaching staff SUCKS likes James Davis. Even after a seemingly bad performance against Minnesota, coaches said they liked what they saw from him. Against the Giants, he was 9-40 rushing and 4-41 receiving and Shanahan commented on how they didn't get to get Davis going very much. Davis (31 snaps) and Williams (32) split the load in that game. If Torain can't go, I could see Davis getting even more snaps. Could be more of a 40/20 split in snap count. If he can get 15-20 touches, I think Davis could provide some value for teams in desperate need of RB help.

The problem with anyone on Washington is that they simply don't score TDs. Davis could easily have 17 touches for 80-90 yards, but I wouldn't project him for a TD.

I fixed this one for ya!Shanny is a gawd awful coach who has made many bad decisions on the year, so many that I wonder why he is not already on the hot seat.

I have never liked Shanny as a coach.

Shanahan is a "gawd awful" coach? Really?

 

[NJ]

I'm sorry I am confused...I know what the risk is, but whats the reward?He is a redskins runner comin back from an injury, so I see no reward.(But now that I said that he will go for a hundy and a score)

For the record, the guy was averaging almost 13 ppg (non ppr) for the 5 week stretch from week 4 up until week 8 when he got hurt. Those are solid RB2 numbers so I'd say he has at least some value if he's healthy and starting against one of the worst rush defenses in the league.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm sorry I am confused...I know what the risk is, but whats the reward?He is a redskins runner comin back from an injury, so I see no reward.(But now that I said that he will go for a hundy and a score)

For the record, the guy was averaging almost 13 ppg (non ppr) for the 5 week stretch from week 4 up until week 8 when he got hurt. Those are solid RB2 numbers so I'd say he has at least some value if he's healthy and starting against one of the worst rush defenses in the league.

Exactly

 

[Marvelous]

I'm sorry I am confused...I know what the risk is, but whats the reward?He is a redskins runner comin back from an injury, so I see no reward.(But now that I said that he will go for a hundy and a score)

For the record, the guy was averaging almost 13 ppg (non ppr) for the 5 week stretch from week 4 up until week 8 when he got hurt. Those are solid RB2 numbers so I'd say he has at least some value if he's healthy and starting against one of the worst rush defenses in the league.

Exactly

The run game for the Redskins took a really big hit when Torrain was injured. They really have not run the ball well with Keiland and Davis.

 

[LargeMouthBass]

Keiland actually was doing fine until Skeletor abruptly stopped using him after a career game... Why? Who knows.

 

[Wombat1]

I have a fat stack of suckage for my RB2 slot. I literally have every bench spot on my roster with RB's. Right now its either Torain or Ivory this week, probably going Ivory.

Not trying to make this a WDIS, just a reference for people who are considering starting Torain and how desperate you have to be to start him.

To anyone starting him, who are you starting him over?

 

[Ditka is God]

Rostered him last week but I'm not starting him, at least not this weekend. That said, you can never have too much RB depth at this stage of the season, and he did produce some decent numbers when given the chance.

 

[Futz]

He has been the best pure rushing back on the team this year. Barring any setbacks, he'll get the touches this week with Keiland resuming the 3rd down/spot rush duty. Everyone wants to point to Shenanigans and how he can't be trusted but Ryan is one of Shanny's projects from the Denver days and has always favored him it seems.

During the 4 weeks before he got hurt, Torain averaged 18.75 carries a game.

He'll be a solid flex play with a pretty good matchup vs. a TB defense that doesn't stop the rush.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Keiland actually was doing fine until Skeletor abruptly stopped using him after a career game... Why? Who knows.

Williams had 23 carries in the game after his career game. He gained 68 yards (3.0ypc) with those in that game.

 

[OPS]

The Redskins have never went into a game planning on Keiland being the lead back.

Week 7 - He takes over for an injured Torain

Week 8 - Bye

Week 9 - Torain reinjures hammy in pregame and they are force to go with Keiland

Week 10 - He takes over for an injured Portis

Week 12 - James Davis leads the team in carries

Week 13 - James Davis leads the team in carries

It's obvious that they view him as a 3rd down back. They have always planned on another running back being the lead back going into every game.

 

[ScottyDog]

The OP's thread title is wrong. It should say "high risk, low reward".

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

 

[JohnnyU]

The OP's thread title is wrong. It should say "high risk, low reward".

I suppose the stat lines from week 6 and 7 where he gained 225 yds on 41 carries and 2 tds are irrelevent? Also throw in 18/70/1 in week 4 for good measure.

 

[Futz]

No Thurs setback for Torain

Ryan Torain, RB WAS

News: Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said Thursday that RB Ryan Torain practiced well again and had no setbacks with his hamstring injury.

Analysis: If Torain is able to practice again Friday, he should return against Tampa Bay, which would be a favorable matchup. The Redskins have struggled to run the ball with Torain out, and he could be considered a No. 3 Fantasy option against the Bucs if he's cleared to play. ----CBS

I'm sticking with him as a flex but I'll be keeping my eyes glued to the pre-game info.

 

[NeverEnough]

Hmm, Torrain or Forte...

 

[kencav]

The OP's thread title is wrong. It should say "high risk, low reward".

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

low reward-what supports this?poor posting

 

[sjacksonfan]

Another full practice. Shanahan calling him a "full go" as long as there's no setback which Shanny doesn't anticipate. So how many carries we looking at? Is he the guy? Or going part of a 3-headed monster?

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

He'll be in on 1st & 2nd down. And he'll probably sit every 3rd or 4th series.

Another full practice. Shanahan calling him a "full go" as long as there's no setback which Shanny doesn't anticipate. So how many carries we looking at? Is he the guy? Or going part of a 3-headed monster?

 

[ScottyDog]

Well Ken, I was a Torain owner and I am partial to him as he got me through the bye weeks with some good production. The reason I say he is "low reward" is because he is part of the Shanahan backfield. There is now James Davis, Keiland Williams and Torain in the mix now that you have to try and figure out who will get the carries. On top of that, Torain is coming back from a Hammy injury which is huge. Also, as you should know, when a player is out on an injury for several weeks and then comes back, their work load is usually minimal for that first week or two. Thus, I say HIGH RISK, LOW REWARD. I hope this post gets your approval.

The OP's thread title is wrong. It should say "high risk, low reward".

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

low reward-what supports this?poor posting

 

[SieteCinco]

Another full practice. Shanahan calling him a "full go" as long as there's no setback which Shanny doesn't anticipate. So how many carries we looking at? Is he the guy? Or going part of a 3-headed monster?

If Torrain isn't the guy, it will definitely have three heads but not sure you can call it a monster.

 

[Easy Six]

Another full practice. Shanahan calling him a "full go" as long as there's no setback which Shanny doesn't anticipate. So how many carries we looking at? Is he the guy? Or going part of a 3-headed monster?

If Torrain isn't the guy, it will definitely have three heads but not sure you can call it a monster.

More of a monster with parasitic triplets.

 

[_lurker_]

+1 on easing a guy back in after injury, which is why i'm starting Reggie Bush over Torain.

Well Ken, I was a Torain owner and I am partial to him as he got me through the bye weeks with some good production. The reason I say he is "low reward" is because he is part of the Shanahan backfield. There is now James Davis, Keiland Williams and Torain in the mix now that you have to try and figure out who will get the carries. On top of that, Torain is coming back from a Hammy injury which is huge. Also, as you should know, when a player is out on an injury for several weeks and then comes back, their work load is usually minimal for that first week or two. Thus, I say HIGH RISK, LOW REWARD. I hope this post gets your approval.

The OP's thread title is wrong. It should say "high risk, low reward".

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan confirmed Monday that Ryan Torain (hamstring) will practice this week.

Torain actually did take some reps last Friday, so he may progress to full practice this week. It's good timing with a favorable matchup against Tampa Bay on the slate, but Torain would be awfully hard to trust in the fantasy playoffs after a five-week layoff and several setbacks. His return would make James Davis and Keiland Williams obvious non-factors in all leagues.

Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter

low reward-what supports this?poor posting

 

[nysportsfan]

:sehorn:

Picked him up hoping he can be decent next week and beyond. I do think they ease him in a bit, but then he might get all first and second down work.

 

[Futz]

I'm not buying the "ease" him back in thing. Washington is in a win or go home mode and if Torain is proving to be the most effective back, he'll get his 15+ touches and I'd imagine all of the goal line work.

 

[Marvelous]

I've decided to go with Torain. With Portis, Shanahan was very cautious when bringing him back from injury, but once he was declared healthy, Portis got nearly all the carries the first quarter until he got another injury.

So working in Torain's favor:

1. Portis got many carries on his first game back until he was injured.

2. The running game has suched since Torain was injured.

Working against Torain:

3. He is coming back from injury

4. Shanahan's past, although it does not look like he has two or even another viable option right now.

 

[NeverEnough]

Good news here. Might have to go w/him over Forte due to weather.

 

[fatness]

I'm not buying the "ease" him back in thing. Washington is in a win or go home mode and if Torain is proving to be the most effective back, he'll get his 15+ touches and I'd imagine all of the goal line work.

I agree with you about Torain getting the most work. But as for Washington, they've gone home already and are playing more for pride and job protection.

 

[Futz]

Good news here. Might have to go w/him over Forte due to weather.

Have you heard anything of note? I'd be watching the warmups of this game with an eagle eye. Torain has already burned me once.

 

[NeverEnough]

Good news here. Might have to go w/him over Forte due to weather.

Have you heard anything of note? I'd be watching the warmups of this game with an eagle eye. Torain has already burned me once.

Haven't heard anything yet, but I am down by 20 going into today & need to swing for the fences + my WR situation is a mess.

 

[Futz]

Good news here. Might have to go w/him over Forte due to weather.

Have you heard anything of note? I'd be watching the warmups of this game with an eagle eye. Torain has already burned me once.

Haven't heard anything yet, but I am down by 20 going into today & need to swing for the fences + my WR situation is a mess.

He's active but keep checking!

 

[otb_lifer]

CBS reporting ACTIVE, but KW to get the start ... which doesn't count for much, considering he got the start last week, but ceded the majority of playing time to Davis ..

 

[Easy Six]

I'm not buying the "ease" him back in thing. Washington is in a win or go home mode and if Torain is proving to be the most effective back, he'll get his 15+ touches and I'd imagine all of the goal line work.

I agree with you about Torain getting the most work. But as for Washington, they've gone home already and are playing more for pride and job protection.

This is true - and it's one reason I think Shanahan will work Torain like a dog. If Torain can make a difference, it'll e clear (at least to Shanahan) that injuries are to blame, not Skeletor.

 

[Futz]

CBS reporting ACTIVE, but KW to get the start ... which doesn't count for much, considering he got the start last week, but ceded the majority of playing time to Davis ..

Yeah the actual "starter" doesn't mean squat. This shouldn't deter anyone truly considering Torain here.

 

[Futz]

I'm not buying the "ease" him back in thing. Washington is in a win or go home mode and if Torain is proving to be the most effective back, he'll get his 15+ touches and I'd imagine all of the goal line work.

I agree with you about Torain getting the most work. But as for Washington, they've gone home already and are playing more for pride and job protection.

I thought they still were mathmatically in the playoff hunt albeit a fat chance.

 

[Beetlejuice]

Struggling with this....been mentally flipping coins having to play one between Torain, Greene, and Lynch all week long. Talk about 3 miserable options.

All likely to see 15 relatively crappy touches. Good times.

 

[Futz]

Ryan Torain 50 yard run.

 

[N Zone]

Torain just had a 54 yard run.

 

[destro]

Kudos to the shark pool for reading this one correctly, it appears. Shanahan is never easy to predict, but it looks like most of us here were right on this one.

Torain got the first 4 RB touches, and after that 54-yard run, he will surely be the horse for Shanny unless he gets injured. I put him in as a flex in one league, and this may bail me out in a tough matchup...

 

[destro]

...and he's already over 100 total yards.

 

[RenegadeGM]

1:20 and he already topped 100 yards

 

[nysportsfan]

Looks good via stat line, but that highlight shows a back without elite speed, which we all knew. Matters little for most, as he will simply will not break the huge run.

Wow, 100 yards in the first, not bad

 

[bryan215]

sigh...really need to trust my gut instead of worrying about Dodds crappy rankings