It appears the Eagles made a run at R.Moss...and almost got him (1 Viewer)

[maccabees]

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EAGLES LOST MOSS “AT THE WIRE”

Posted by Mike Florio on March 3, 2008, 8:11 p.m.

We’ve heard from several readers today about reports in Philly from Gcobb.com and the radio host at WIP who hates us that the Eagles made a run at signing receiver Randy Moss.

We’ve looked into it, and it is 100 percent true.

The following explanation is based on our discussions with multiple league sources.

The Eagles, as reported elsewhere, offered a higher annual average than the Patriots. The Eagles also offered more guaranteed money than did the Pats.

But it was a day of high drama. The process went back and forth between the Eagles and the Patriots. At one point, the Eagles thought they had him. Then, it looked like the Pats had him. Then the Eagles. Then the Patriots.

One source said that the Pats won Moss “at the wire.”

Moss, as we’re told, was afraid to leave a place where he’s happy after being unhappy for so many years before that.

The Eagles, as we understand it, knew that Moss was inclined to return to New England but decided to be aggressive.

And we greatly admire the Eagles for trying. Our good friends in Philly would have been elated with such a move — and they should be happy that their team tried so hard to get a guy who could have had as big of an impact as Terrell Owens did in 2004, if not bigger.

The next question becomes whether this prompts the Eagles to re-double their efforts to pry receiver Larry Fitzgerald away from the Cardinals. There has been plenty of chatter about the Eagles trying to pull off a trade, and after getting so close to securing Moss there likely could be an increase groundswell of support for the franchise to do whatever is necessary to land a guy who in time could be every bit as good as Moss.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I wonder if in the end the whole TO fiasco cost the eagles Rmoss

 

[Black]

I wonder if in the end the whole TO fiasco cost the eagles Rmoss

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I wonder if in the end the whole TO fiasco cost the eagles Rmoss

Why would you say or think that?The TO issue was about trying to get a better contract - one that the NFLPA even told TO not to sign.Philly went so far to warn him that the deal was the deal and that was what they were willing to pay. Even though he was heroic in his efforts to return for the Super Bowl, they weren't going to go down that road.Had Moss signed in Philly he would have been one of the highest paid WRs ever. I don't think that the two situations compare as well as you think.

 

[Pat Patriot]

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EAGLES LOST MOSS “AT THE WIRE”

Posted by Mike Florio on March 3, 2008, 8:11 p.m.

We’ve heard from several readers today about reports in Philly from Gcobb.com and the radio host at WIP who hates us that the Eagles made a run at signing receiver Randy Moss.

We’ve looked into it, and it is 100 percent true.

The following explanation is based on our discussions with multiple league sources.

The Eagles, as reported elsewhere, offered a higher annual average than the Patriots. The Eagles also offered more guaranteed money than did the Pats.

But it was a day of high drama. The process went back and forth between the Eagles and the Patriots. At one point, the Eagles thought they had him. Then, it looked like the Pats had him. Then the Eagles. Then the Patriots.

One source said that the Pats won Moss “at the wire.”

Moss, as we’re told, was afraid to leave a place where he’s happy after being unhappy for so many years before that.

The Eagles, as we understand it, knew that Moss was inclined to return to New England but decided to be aggressive.

And we greatly admire the Eagles for trying. Our good friends in Philly would have been elated with such a move — and they should be happy that their team tried so hard to get a guy who could have had as big of an impact as Terrell Owens did in 2004, if not bigger.

The next question becomes whether this prompts the Eagles to re-double their efforts to pry receiver Larry Fitzgerald away from the Cardinals. There has been plenty of chatter about the Eagles trying to pull off a trade, and after getting so close to securing Moss there likely could be an increase groundswell of support for the franchise to do whatever is necessary to land a guy who in time could be every bit as good as Moss.

I think there has been a ton of misinformation on Moss over this past weekend. Everyone expected Moss to sign right away and when he didnt and both the Pats camp and Moss camp kept a lid on any leaks, many members of the media decided to start making up stories.Shefter - GB is making a hard push for him.

Clayton - He called Culpepper therefore they want to play together again.

GCobb and Howard Eskins - The Eagles offered more money but he stayed in NE.

Eskin is the same guy who says Stallworth signed with NE because his agent (Rosenhaus) didnt tell him about a higher offer from the Eagles. Highly unlikely since agents get paid based on how much they get for their clients. So if you believe Eskin, the Eagles continue to offer WR's top dollar but they take less elsewhere.

I am just very skeptical about the ever famous "League Sources". There has been ZERO information out of the Patriots camp and Moss camp. How would league sources have any information regarding the Patriots negotiations?

 

[Pat Patriot]

I wonder if in the end the whole TO fiasco cost the eagles Rmoss

Why would you say or think that?The TO issue was about trying to get a better contract - one that the NFLPA even told TO not to sign.Philly went so far to warn him that the deal was the deal and that was what they were willing to pay. Even though he was heroic in his efforts to return for the Super Bowl, they weren't going to go down that road.Had Moss signed in Philly he would have been one of the highest paid WRs ever. I don't think that the two situations compare as well as you think.

My opinion is revisionist history because at the time I said, "Good for Philly in holding the line with TO." In hindsight, the Eagles could of/should of given TO a million dollar bonus off his SB performance. They had the cap space and it really was a unique situation regarding his injury and SB peformance that I dont think it would have set the precedent that the Eagles were said to be protecting. it would have kept their team together for at least another year.

 

[delusional]

Least they tried and you can't really blame Randy for staying in NE, like hte article said, he been unhappy for so long it is hard to leave a place where you are happy.

My god if the birds got him, Moss Westbrook McNabb

=x

 

[GroveDiesel]

Slightly off topic, but is Eskin the one that Florio is talking about when he says that a WIP host doesn't like him? I don't listen to 610 precisely because I hate Eskin and Cataldi, but I thought I remembered Florio always pimping his radio appearances on 610. Did he have some sort of falling out with Eskin at some point? Or is it that he appears on Cataldi's show?

 

[Pat Patriot]

Slightly off topic, but is Eskin the one that Florio is talking about when he says that a WIP host doesn't like him? I don't listen to 610 precisely because I hate Eskin and Cataldi, but I thought I remembered Florio always pimping his radio appearances on 610. Did he have some sort of falling out with Eskin at some point? Or is it that he appears on Cataldi's show?

He is referring to Eskin. I'm not sure about the story of them fueding.

 

[Slider]

I would rather Fitz or Williams anyway.

 

[bostonfred]

I said at the time that letting Owens was go was the biggest mistake the Eagles could make. I was highly critical of the move and was blasted for it. They wasted McNabb's best years, gave up the most talented player on their team, and drew a line in the sand that they would never reward their players for going above and beyond. It's no surprise that the team fell apart after that.

 

[Pat Patriot]

I said at the time that letting Owens was go was the biggest mistake the Eagles could make. I was highly critical of the move and was blasted for it. They wasted McNabb's best years, gave up the most talented player on their team, and drew a line in the sand that they would never reward their players for going above and beyond. It's no surprise that the team fell apart after that.

 

[Mustang Man]

All I can say is to bad Philly

 

[delusional]

I would rather Fitz or Williams anyway.

 

[Slider]

I would rather Fitz or Williams anyway.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Here's how I understand how things went today (it all went VERY quickly) from my source with the Eagles:

1. They called Moss' agent. Agent gave them a $$$ amount.

2. Banner crunched the numbers and told Reid they could do it.

3. Moss' agent got with Moss, gave him the figure (it was more than what NE offered, but not much).

4. Moss decided it wasn't enough to not be with NE.

This literally happeded over a 2-3 hour span today. Really nothing more than we already know though....

 

[Mustang Man]

I would rather Fitz or Williams anyway.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I would rather Fitz or Williams anyway.

Fitz yes. Williams? Please.

 

[PHILLYHAWK]

All I can say is to bad Philly

I love the geniuses that take shots and can't even spell.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I would rather Fitz or Williams anyway.

Fitz yes, Roy no.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Here's how I understand how things went today (it all went VERY quickly) from my source with the Eagles:1. They called Moss' agent. Agent gave them a $$ amount.2. Banner crunched the numbers and told Reid they could do it.3. Moss' agent got with Moss, gave him the figure (it was more than what NE offered, but not much). 4. Moss decided it wasn't enough to not be with NE.This literally happeded over a 2-3 hour span today. Really nothing more than we already know though....

Hermit knows things.

 

[Brutis]

This news really breaks my heart. lol

 

[Shermanator]

Well, at least it appears the Eagles realize they need a WR upgrade.

Here's hoping they pull off a draft day trade.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Here's how I understand how things went today (it all went VERY quickly) from my source with the Eagles:1. They called Moss' agent. Agent gave them a $$ amount.2. Banner crunched the numbers and told Reid they could do it.3. Moss' agent got with Moss, gave him the figure (it was more than what NE offered, but not much). 4. Moss decided it wasn't enough to not be with NE.This literally happeded over a 2-3 hour span today. Really nothing more than we already know though....

Hermit knows things.

I wish he would have told us what was going on earlier in the day. I got to hear about his on the way home from work on Sirius and my entire drive home was spent wondering "what if?" I could have done this the last couple of hours at work while I was quite pissy :(

 

[FUBAR]

I would rather Fitz or Williams anyway.

:(

With 10, it sort of looks like a bowling alley

 

[pizzatyme]

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EAGLES LOST MOSS “AT THE WIRE”

Posted by Mike Florio on March 3, 2008, 8:11 p.m.

We’ve heard from several readers today about reports in Philly from Gcobb.com and the radio host at WIP who hates us that the Eagles made a run at signing receiver Randy Moss.

We’ve looked into it, and it is 100 percent true.

The following explanation is based on our discussions with multiple league sources.

The Eagles, as reported elsewhere, offered a higher annual average than the Patriots. The Eagles also offered more guaranteed money than did the Pats.

But it was a day of high drama. The process went back and forth between the Eagles and the Patriots. At one point, the Eagles thought they had him. Then, it looked like the Pats had him. Then the Eagles. Then the Patriots.

One source said that the Pats won Moss “at the wire.”

Moss, as we’re told, was afraid to leave a place where he’s happy after being unhappy for so many years before that.

The Eagles, as we understand it, knew that Moss was inclined to return to New England but decided to be aggressive.

And we greatly admire the Eagles for trying. Our good friends in Philly would have been elated with such a move — and they should be happy that their team tried so hard to get a guy who could have had as big of an impact as Terrell Owens did in 2004, if not bigger.

The next question becomes whether this prompts the Eagles to re-double their efforts to pry receiver Larry Fitzgerald away from the Cardinals. There has been plenty of chatter about the Eagles trying to pull off a trade, and after getting so close to securing Moss there likely could be an increase groundswell of support for the franchise to do whatever is necessary to land a guy who in time could be every bit as good as Moss.

I think there has been a ton of misinformation on Moss over this past weekend. Everyone expected Moss to sign right away and when he didnt and both the Pats camp and Moss camp kept a lid on any leaks, many members of the media decided to start making up stories.Shefter - GB is making a hard push for him.

Clayton - He called Culpepper therefore they want to play together again.

GCobb and Howard Eskins - The Eagles offered more money but he stayed in NE.

Eskin is the same guy who says Stallworth signed with NE because his agent (Rosenhaus) didnt tell him about a higher offer from the Eagles. Highly unlikely since agents get paid based on how much they get for their clients. So if you believe Eskin, the Eagles continue to offer WR's top dollar but they take less elsewhere.

I am just very skeptical about the ever famous "League Sources". There has been ZERO information out of the Patriots camp and Moss camp. How would league sources have any information regarding the Patriots negotiations?

Do you have sources that says the above bolded statement is true? If so, are they league sources?Link?

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

I wonder if in the end the whole TO fiasco cost the eagles Rmoss

Why would you say or think that?The TO issue was about trying to get a better contract - one that the NFLPA even told TO not to sign.Philly went so far to warn him that the deal was the deal and that was what they were willing to pay. Even though he was heroic in his efforts to return for the Super Bowl, they weren't going to go down that road.Had Moss signed in Philly he would have been one of the highest paid WRs ever. I don't think that the two situations compare as well as you think.

My opinion is revisionist history because at the time I said, "Good for Philly in holding the line with TO." In hindsight, the Eagles could of/should of given TO a million dollar bonus off his SB performance. They had the cap space and it really was a unique situation regarding his injury and SB peformance that I dont think it would have set the precedent that the Eagles were said to be protecting. it would have kept their team together for at least another year.

They should have paid him. That is what I thought at the time. Sometimes you have to have a different philosophy for the great players. TO and Westbrook in his prime would have been dynamic.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Here's how I understand how things went today (it all went VERY quickly) from my source with the Eagles:1. They called Moss' agent. Agent gave them a $$ amount.2. Banner crunched the numbers and told Reid they could do it.3. Moss' agent got with Moss, gave him the figure (it was more than what NE offered, but not much). 4. Moss decided it wasn't enough to not be with NE.This literally happeded over a 2-3 hour span today. Really nothing more than we already know though....

Hermit knows things.

I wish he would have told us what was going on earlier in the day. I got to hear about his on the way home from work on Sirius and my entire drive home was spent wondering "what if?" I could have done this the last couple of hours at work while I was quite pissy

Sorry, I was at a client's site until almost 9:00 last night cleaning up a few messes. My buddy tried to call me twice in that span, but I was in meetings.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Here's how I understand how things went today (it all went VERY quickly) from my source with the Eagles:1. They called Moss' agent. Agent gave them a $$ amount.2. Banner crunched the numbers and told Reid they could do it.3. Moss' agent got with Moss, gave him the figure (it was more than what NE offered, but not much). 4. Moss decided it wasn't enough to not be with NE.This literally happeded over a 2-3 hour span today. Really nothing more than we already know though....

Hermit knows things.

I wish he would have told us what was going on earlier in the day. I got to hear about his on the way home from work on Sirius and my entire drive home was spent wondering "what if?" I could have done this the last couple of hours at work while I was quite pissy :(

Sorry, I was at a client's site until almost 9:00 last night cleaning up a few messes. My buddy tried to call me twice in that span, but I was in meetings.

Dude ! You are our Eagles insider, get your priorities straight !!!!

 

[Ghost Rider]

And the Eagles almost won Super Bowl 39. Philly sure does have a lot of almosts in the sports world over the the last 25 years.

 

[JAA]

I wonder if in the end the whole TO fiasco cost the eagles Rmoss

Why would you say or think that?The TO issue was about trying to get a better contract - one that the NFLPA even told TO not to sign.Philly went so far to warn him that the deal was the deal and that was what they were willing to pay. Even though he was heroic in his efforts to return for the Super Bowl, they weren't going to go down that road.Had Moss signed in Philly he would have been one of the highest paid WRs ever. I don't think that the two situations compare as well as you think.

My opinion is revisionist history because at the time I said, "Good for Philly in holding the line with TO." In hindsight, the Eagles could of/should of given TO a million dollar bonus off his SB performance. They had the cap space and it really was a unique situation regarding his injury and SB peformance that I dont think it would have set the precedent that the Eagles were said to be protecting. it would have kept their team together for at least another year.

SeriosulyWhy would you want the best WR ever to put on an Eagles uni to be playing under a low-ball, screw-ball, bogus contract? Why? Its simply bad business. Pay the man what he is worth.

 

[phillyfan72]

Well, at least it appears the Eagles realize they need a WR upgrade. Here's hoping they pull off a draft day trade.

I agree, at least they realize they need an upgrade at WR. Going after Moss, talking about Fitz, I think they are pushing for at least one last run with McNabb, Thomas, Runyan, LJ, etc. and see what happens.

 

[Jason Wood]

Well, at least it appears the Eagles realize they need a WR upgrade. Here's hoping they pull off a draft day trade.

I agree, at least they realize they need an upgrade at WR. Going after Moss, talking about Fitz, I think they are pushing for at least one last run with McNabb, Thomas, Runyan, LJ, etc. and see what happens.

It's a bittersweet thing though. They've clearly tried to land Moss, have inquired about Fitz and Roy, but nothing has stuck yet. Absent anything happening now, it's going to leave fans wondering what might have been; and it probably won't have McNabb feeling great since they clearly listened to him about needing more weapons. I still hold out hope we make a move that isn't signing D.J. Hackett. And I want us to draft a promising return guy in April.