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Jaguars Defense - Sign of things or fluke? (1 Viewer)
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Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
I don't think it's too much of fluke. I don't expect them to get ploughed like they did Sunday, but there are legitimate concerns.
It all starts with the D-line stopping the run. Here's why the defense has to be a cause of concern (for the Jags and us Jags fans):
1. Reggie Hayward is coming off an achilles tear. He'll never have the same explosion that he once had.
2. John Henderson is fighting a shoulder injury. I'm not too sure how long this will linger. It could affect him the whole year.
3. Marcus Stroud is coming off microfracture surgery on his ankle. Some never come back from this.
4. Bobby McCray is a pass-rusher and has never been known to be a good run-stopper.
5. Paul Spicer is getting up in age and although he has been dependable, he's never been known as great DE.
6. They have alot of pass rushing specialists that aren't very stout against the run.
With the line not performing up to their past standards, that leaves extra blockers free to roam into LB territory. The LB's now have to shed alot of blocks. That hasn't been a big problem in years past.
It all starts with the D-line stopping the run. Here's why the defense has to be a cause of concern (for the Jags and us Jags fans):
1. Reggie Hayward is coming off an achilles tear. He'll never have the same explosion that he once had.
2. John Henderson is fighting a shoulder injury. I'm not too sure how long this will linger. It could affect him the whole year.
3. Marcus Stroud is coming off microfracture surgery on his ankle. Some never come back from this.
4. Bobby McCray is a pass-rusher and has never been known to be a good run-stopper.
5. Paul Spicer is getting up in age and although he has been dependable, he's never been known as great DE.
6. They have alot of pass rushing specialists that aren't very stout against the run.
With the line not performing up to their past standards, that leaves extra blockers free to roam into LB territory. The LB's now have to shed alot of blocks. That hasn't been a big problem in years past.
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PahtyTom
Footballguy
Good info
prymetyme25
Footballguy
I actually think what happened to the Jax on defense had nothing to do with their defense. I think it had more to do with the offense not moving the ball effectively. Jax are usually at the top of the league in rushing yards and in this game they had a total of 18 attempts if i'm not mistaken. For a defensive ball control team that is murder for the defense add in the fact that the offense was stagnent and you have the recipe for a very tired and ineffective defense, there really was nothing they could do. I kind of equate it to Atl's defense when there is no Vick they just flat out suck without a QB that can keep the offense on the field. I could be totally wrong but that just what i think.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
Even if your offense can't move the ball at all, 282 yds rushing indicates a problem with your defense too.
WisWolvrns
Footballguy
Remember too that it was a divisional game. Those tend not to follow typical trends due to the familiarity factor. It seems to me too that one matchup is low scoring and the other is higher scoring, but that's just my feeling. sorry no hard stats on it.
I figure the Jags will be fine against the rest of the league.
I figure the Jags will be fine against the rest of the league.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
a little of both.
as a jags fan, i hope it was a fluke. i'm hoping that they were just gameplaning so much for vince young that they just got caught off guard.
but their front 7 is getting old and is banged up.
as a jags fan, i hope it was a fluke. i'm hoping that they were just gameplaning so much for vince young that they just got caught off guard.
but their front 7 is getting old and is banged up.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Mr. Brownstone said:
The only other thing I have to add is that they also lost both starting safeties from last year. Sensabaugh missed a couple tackles last week, Sammy Knight looks really slow, and while Reggie Nelson is a playmaker, I'm not sure he has a firm grasp of the defense yet. Several times last week(as mentioned above), offensive linemen had free rein on MLB Peterson who struggled shedding those blocks at times. Once the Titans RB got past Peterson, the middle of the field was wide open and it was off to the races. Granted Jeff Fisher helped cause this confusion for the safeties by spreading out the WRs and running it up the middle, but they better get it fixed soon.
PatytonsGhost
Footballguy
You can find similar insight here as well"Although it came as a shock to many that the Jaguars defense gave up a franchise-worst 282 yards rushing to Tennessee in their 13-10 loss in week one, a closer look reveals that this shouldn't be considered all that surprising. The Titans possess a young, talented offensive line and the heart of the Jaguars run defense has always been their talented defensive tackles, Marcus Stroud and John Henderson, two players with injury concerns. Stroud had microfracture surgery in the offseason and Henderson has been battling a shoulder injury. In addition, pass rushing defensive end Reggie Hayward missed 15 games last year after tearing his Achilles tendon in the opener. With Atlanta, Denver and Kansas City up next, the Jags will be tested by three teams with typically strong running games. "
http://fftoday.com/articles/stringer/07_take_9_14.htm
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Although I feel that the safety position lacks depth, the starters are solid. I'm not sure if they hamper the defense much as of now. I think Sensabaugh is a good player; he's smart, instictive, and athletic. I agree with you about Reggie Nelson. He is a big upgrade athletically, but the defense will miss Deon Grant's brains. This may take time, but I think Nelson will get it.Mr. Brownstone said:The only other thing I have to add is that they also lost both starting safeties from last year. Sensabaugh missed a couple tackles last week, Sammy Knight looks really slow, and while Reggie Nelson is a playmaker, I'm not sure he has a firm grasp of the defense yet. Several times last week(as mentioned above), offensive linemen had free rein on MLB Peterson who struggled shedding those blocks at times. Once the Titans RB got past Peterson, the middle of the field was wide open and it was off to the races. Granted Jeff Fisher helped cause this confusion for the safeties by spreading out the WRs and running it up the middle, but they better get it fixed soon.
favrefan1062
Footballguy
NFL Match-up on ESPN broke down why Tennessee ran the ball so effectively on Jax. Because of the worry about Young's running talent, linebackers were breaking their containment responsibilities. I'm not sure I totally agree that was the whole issue but the lanes that opened up by linebackers chasing a Vince Young fake were huge.
