Jahvid Best (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

First and foremost allow me to state: I acknowledge Best has talent.

He's averaging 3.2 YPC.

I don't understand how everyone can go completely insane about a player who is averaging that low of an average. I understand that he has upside but for christ sakes 3.2 is god-awful for the "next Barry Sanders" or a "Top 5-Dynasty player". Hell let him post a game where he averages over 5 yards!

Arguments made about other RBs that are for whatever reason aren't being used against Best.

1.) __________ is often criticized for his lack of ability to be a "between the tackles" runner. He's a great pass-catcher and can take it to the house every time he has the ball. Everyone acknowledges his burst is amazing and he is an GREAT threat in the Red-Zone. Some critics claim that he is too undersized to be an every down back and needs a complimentary runner.

Whether you want to place Reggie Bush in the blank or Jahvid Best it still works. Not to mention that Jahvid Best is actually smaller than Bush. I don't understand that the same people who chastise Reggie Bush for these qualities; ignore the fact that Best shares them.

Let's take a time machine shall we?

It's 2006. Reggie Bush's Rookie season and he has an amazing game:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2006120304/2...13/49ers@saints

10 Carries / 37 Yards / 3 TD

9 Receptions / 131 Yards / 1 TD

Woah! This fella is going to have a HELL of a career. We all know how that played out. Bush is a superstar player but not the Top 5 Fantasy Player everyone would have expected after he puts up total like this. It was easy for Bush owners to justify his paltry YPC because he was hammering it into the end-zone.

Not saying that Best is going to have a similar career as Reggie Bush; they are different players. Perspective.

2.) ___________ benefits from his system. His value as a Fantasy Football is boosted by the fact he's going to touch the ball 25+ times a game and get goal line carries. His YPC may be low but he'll be the teams bell cow and catch passes.

You can throw Jahvid Best in there... or you can place Matt Forte. Many people tried discrediting Matt Forte's credibility as a ballcarrier simply for the fact his offense inflates his numbers.

Back into the time machine!

It's 2008; Matt Forte's rookie season! The guy is putting up games with Touchdown after Touchdown. His YPC is fairly weak but he's touching the ball so much it doesn't matter! He ends up with 1,200 Yards and 12 TDs. Steal of the draft, baby! Everyone acquire this stud in Dynasty right now! You all remember he was a Top-5 redraft pick in the 2009 season, right?

One year later and it's the 2009 season. Everyone hopped on the Forte bandwagon... and the wheels fell off the sides! His YPC remained low, he still got all the passes, all the goal line carries... but the Touchdowns stopped coming! Everyone pissed and moaned about his awful season! Getting upset they traded half their teams away for this "sure-fire" stud.

Not saying that Best is going to have a similar career to Matt Forte; they are VERY different players. Perspective. The hype for Forte was ridiculous on these boards; people were in love with the FF points he was putting up rather than how he was getting them. Touchdowns are a rough thing to predict and when you have a player who depends on them for production; eek!

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Listen here. I'm not trying to ruffle and feathers. I'm neither on the pro-Best or anti-Best bandwagon. I'm staying put right in the middle for now. I'm just trying to raise a little perspective and warn you: Buyer Beware. Look at the past and learn from it. Every time someone has a spectacular week everyone on here rants and raves about the "flavor of the week". (IE: Arian Foster.) There are still plenty of question marks for Best:

1.) Is he a 300 touch guy? Or will he be plagued with injuries is whole career.

2.) Is he a product of the system? ...are his TDs based on talent or situation?

3.) Once Kevin Smith is healthy will he steal carries? ...especially in the redzone?

4.) Is he more suited for a RBBC? Should he be rectified to insure he is just as explosive week 1 as in week 16?

Everyone here is telling you that Best is the "best". I'm not here to tell you he's not... only to make sure you have a full grasp on the situation. Don't get caught up in the hype. Weigh it all and then make an educated decision so that you don't end up chasing a mirage.

 

[basher]

I think Reggie Bush is a terrible comparison for Best. He is more like a Brian Westbrook.

 

[Eminence]

I think Reggie Bush is a terrible comparison for Best. He is more like a Brian Westbrook.

Was not actually comparing the "skill sets" of the players. As you can see I also compared him to Forte. This is more of a "don't get caught in the hype". I've seen threads / heard stories about people offering MJD and other studs for Jahvid Best. Just showing how production by various players mirrors what Best has done thus far and showing how those situations turned out.

You could also argue that Chris Johnson posted a similar game to Best his Rookie season. Does that mean Best is going to rally for 2,000 yards? No. Each player is unique but looking to the past can help us evaluate each player individually. So we don't end up paying Top 5 Value for a player who could end up being a fringe Top-10 in his career.

 

[cubbie5150]

I think Reggie Bush is a terrible comparison for Best. He is more like a Brian Westbrook.

Why ruin an analogy when it's so convenient?

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

Thanks for the new thread

 

[Eminence]

I dont think the #s matter.

Be it his low ypc (on the Lions) or his huge FF points (in your league).

Watch him. He passes the eye test.

He is not a perfect back. But he is a terrific one.

Believe me. I KNOW. Anyone who watched the game on Sunday can see his talent clear as day. I just noticed there's a certain hysteria going on around these parts. I'm not going against it, BUT:I know damn well everyones going to try to point me out as a Best hater and belittle my post.

Like I said. Best is talented; but there seems to be nothing but optimism surrounding the kid. I'm just reminding everyone that:

To be an effective Fantasy Football player and a shark; you must play devil's advocate and evaluate both sides of the argument.

 

[CaptainHook]

lol...tc has never watched him play

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I think Reggie Bush is a terrible comparison for Best. He is more like a Brian Westbrook.

Best has 10x the vision of Bush, but physically he is MUCH closer to Bush than Westbrook. Westbrook had a thick lower body, and was constantly running through tackles in the open field. For his tremendous amount of TDs so far, I'm not sure that Best has broken a tackle yet and he's gone down with some insanely small amounts of contact in the open field on some plays.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

I think if there's any reason for concern right now, it's this:

1) He had one pretty poor game (where he did score twice on GL shots, but otherwise played poorly enough that there were multiple threads about benching him and whether he could hold off Kevin Smith, etc.), which happened while Matt Stafford was QB'ing.

2) He had one great game which has everyone convinced he's going to get his, no matter what, because he's such an integral part of the passing game. This happened with Hill at QB.

3) Stafford is going to be his regular QB. Not Hill.

Now, to be sure, part of this has to do with playing what's looking like a pretty good Bear D week one, and what looks like a somewhat less stout Eagle D week two. But still, we haven't seen him "do it" with his regular QB yet. You hate to bet the farm on a single game's output, especially when the game wasn't under typical circumstances. I'm still bullish on Best, but I don't think it's time to pencil him into the top 5 just yet.

 

[Jayrod]

I think Reggie Bush is a terrible comparison for Best. He is more like a Brian Westbrook.

Best has 10x the vision of Bush, but physically he is MUCH closer to Bush than Westbrook. Westbrook had a thick lower body, and was constantly running through tackles in the open field. For his tremendous amount of TDs so far, I'm not sure that Best has broken a tackle yet and he's gone down with some insanely small amounts of contact in the open field on some plays.

HFS

 

[monkeysee]

Thanks for the new thread

Actually this is a new twist and different from the BEST is the new BARRY SANDERS threads. Mortgage the house to get him because he had 1 great game! I can't wait to laugh at some of these people hyping this guy over such proven talents like MJD and Rice.

 

[CalBear]

1.) __________ is often criticized for his lack of ability to be a "between the tackles" runner. He's a great pass-catcher and can take it to the house every time he has the ball. Everyone acknowledges his burst is amazing and he is an GREAT threat in the Red-Zone. Some critics claim that he is too undersized to be an every down back and needs a complimentary runner.

Whether you want to place Reggie Bush in the blank or Jahvid Best it still works. Not to mention that Jahvid Best is actually smaller than Bush. I don't understand that the same people who chastise Reggie Bush for these qualities; ignore the fact that Best shares them.

Except that Best is a great between-the-tackles runner. At least half of his big plays in college started in the interior line. His TD from seven yards out this week was straight up the gut.

There are still plenty of question marks for Best:

1.) Is he a 300 touch guy? Or will he be plagued with injuries is whole career.

2.) Is he a product of the system? ...are his TDs based on talent or situation?

3.) Once Kevin Smith is healthy will he steal carries? ...especially in the redzone?

4.) Is he more suited for a RBBC? Should he be rectified to insure he is just as explosive week 1 as in week 16?

Are you seriously suggesting that Best scored 5 TDs in two weeks based on the greatness of the Detroit Lions system, led by Shaun Hill?

 

[Glaven]

Although I am a major fan of Best, and own him in several leagues, I think the hype he is getting (particularly in redraft leagues) is unjust.

1) A lot of his fantasy value so far has come from TD's, and as we all know TD's are a very volatile statistic. It's safe to say he won't be getting 2 TD's every week.

2) Last week will most likely be an outlier as far as receiving yardage goes. Although this should go without saying, the hype he's getting after his performance yesterday suggests people are ignoring this.

3) All the teams in his division have strong/very strong defenses this year; so he's got a tough road ahead of him.

4) Despite his FF production, detroit's o line has looked pretty terrible to this point. Best has people in his face right when he touches the ball on numerous occasions which leads (and has led) to a lot of 0 yard gains.

 

[Sabertooth]

Best is one of the only backs in the NFC Central that doesn't have the Lions on his schedule twice as well. Food for thought.

 

[Jayrod]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

 

[CalBear]

Thanks for the new thread

Actually this is a new twist and different from the BEST is the new BARRY SANDERS threads. Mortgage the house to get him because he had 1 great game! I can't wait to laugh at some of these people hyping this guy over such proven talents like MJD and Rice.

How is Rice a more proven talent? In 31 games, over 500 touches, Rice has now scored a total of 8 TDs. Best has scored five TDs in two games with 45 touches. I guarantee that by the time Best has 500 career touches, he will have more than 8 TDs.Rice is also averaging 3.5 ypc this year and has yet to score.

 

[monkeysee]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

 

[HurryUpSundays]

He has the ability to take it to the hizzle every time he touches the ball, ala Cj...

What more could a fantasy owner ask for?

He's a rookie on a barely mediocre team, he will have good, bad and in between games.

This game is all for good fun- and this kid is allowing some owners to have a really good time.

 

[monkeysee]

Thanks for the new thread

Actually this is a new twist and different from the BEST is the new BARRY SANDERS threads. Mortgage the house to get him because he had 1 great game! I can't wait to laugh at some of these people hyping this guy over such proven talents like MJD and Rice.

How is Rice a more proven talent? In 31 games, over 500 touches, Rice has now scored a total of 8 TDs. Best has scored five TDs in two games with 45 touches. I guarantee that by the time Best has 500 career touches, he will have more than 8 TDs.Rice is also averaging 3.5 ypc this year and has yet to score.

Take off your homer glasses, fan boy.Rice finished most leagues as a top 5 scorer last year. He proved it over a full season. I happen to be one of those few rational people that judge a player's value over a full season. NOT 2 GAMES.

 

[CaptainHook]

I think Reggie Bush is a terrible comparison for Best. He is more like a Brian Westbrook.

Best has 10x the vision of Bush, but physically he is MUCH closer to Bush than Westbrook. Westbrook had a thick lower body, and was constantly running through tackles in the open field. For his tremendous amount of TDs so far, I'm not sure that Best has broken a tackle yet and he's gone down with some insanely small amounts of contact in the open field on some plays.

very good post. he is nothing like westbrook.

 

[CalBear]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

 

[CalBear]

Thanks for the new thread

Actually this is a new twist and different from the BEST is the new BARRY SANDERS threads. Mortgage the house to get him because he had 1 great game! I can't wait to laugh at some of these people hyping this guy over such proven talents like MJD and Rice.

How is Rice a more proven talent? In 31 games, over 500 touches, Rice has now scored a total of 8 TDs. Best has scored five TDs in two games with 45 touches. I guarantee that by the time Best has 500 career touches, he will have more than 8 TDs.Rice is also averaging 3.5 ypc this year and has yet to score.

Take off your homer glasses, fan boy.Rice finished most leagues as a top 5 scorer last year. He proved it over a full season. I happen to be one of those few rational people that judge a player's value over a full season. NOT 2 GAMES.

I happen to be one of those people who plays fantasy football, and has to decide whether to start Best this week. If you play in a league where you can wait until the end of the season to decide on your week 3 lineup, I suppose it makes sense to be cautious. The rest of us have to figure out the value of rookie players early in the season.

 

[unckeyherb]

Thanks for the new thread

Actually this is a new twist and different from the BEST is the new BARRY SANDERS threads. Mortgage the house to get him because he had 1 great game! I can't wait to laugh at some of these people hyping this guy over such proven talents like MJD and Rice.

How is Rice a more proven talent? In 31 games, over 500 touches, Rice has now scored a total of 8 TDs. Best has scored five TDs in two games with 45 touches. I guarantee that by the time Best has 500 career touches, he will have more than 8 TDs.Rice is also averaging 3.5 ypc this year and has yet to score.

Take off your homer glasses, fan boy.Rice finished most leagues as a top 5 scorer last year. He proved it over a full season. I happen to be one of those few rational people that judge a player's value over a full season. NOT 2 GAMES.

foolhardy. You go ahead and wait till the season is over to realize what all of us 'fanboys' see now. The guy is a stud and should produce great numbers all year.

 

[Sammy Traveller]

This is the Best thread ever.

 

[Go deep]

Thanks for the new thread

Actually this is a new twist and different from the BEST is the new BARRY SANDERS threads. Mortgage the house to get him because he had 1 great game! I can't wait to laugh at some of these people hyping this guy over such proven talents like MJD and Rice.

How is Rice a more proven talent? In 31 games, over 500 touches, Rice has now scored a total of 8 TDs. Best has scored five TDs in two games with 45 touches. I guarantee that by the time Best has 500 career touches, he will have more than 8 TDs.Rice is also averaging 3.5 ypc this year and has yet to score.

Take off your homer glasses, fan boy.Rice finished most leagues as a top 5 scorer last year. He proved it over a full season. I happen to be one of those few rational people that judge a player's value over a full season. NOT 2 GAMES.

So you didnt like Ray Rice in week 15 or 16, not until after the season ended did you like him?

 

[Jayrod]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

He's talking about your week 1 performance, Jahvid.

 

[monkeysee]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

My prediction is that he doesn't finish the season in the top 10 RBs in a ppr league. These people boasting I wouldn't trade Best for Rice, Peterson, or MJD are laughable. Will he be a solid RB2 for fantasy teams? Yes he is talented enough for that. People are failing to remember that he plays for the Lions. That in itself is a lot to overcome.

 

[monkeysee]

Thanks for the new thread

Actually this is a new twist and different from the BEST is the new BARRY SANDERS threads. Mortgage the house to get him because he had 1 great game! I can't wait to laugh at some of these people hyping this guy over such proven talents like MJD and Rice.

How is Rice a more proven talent? In 31 games, over 500 touches, Rice has now scored a total of 8 TDs. Best has scored five TDs in two games with 45 touches. I guarantee that by the time Best has 500 career touches, he will have more than 8 TDs.Rice is also averaging 3.5 ypc this year and has yet to score.

Take off your homer glasses, fan boy.Rice finished most leagues as a top 5 scorer last year. He proved it over a full season. I happen to be one of those few rational people that judge a player's value over a full season. NOT 2 GAMES.

foolhardy. You go ahead and wait till the season is over to realize what all of us 'fanboys' see now. The guy is a stud and should produce great numbers all year.

He is a stud why? Because he had 1 great game? LMAO. Get over yourself fool.

 

[Go deep]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

My prediction is that he doesn't finish the season in the top 10 RBs in a ppr league. These people boasting I wouldn't trade Best for Rice, Peterson, or MJD are laughable. Will he be a solid RB2 for fantasy teams? Yes he is talented enough for that. People are failing to remember that he plays for the Lions. That in itself is a lot to overcome.

If Best stays healthy, he will finish in the top 10 in PPR's. Which 10 RB's do you like better?

 

[CalBear]

My prediction is that he doesn't finish the season in the top 10 RBs in a ppr league.

Well, I'll give you credit for a bold prediction. Good luck with that one.

 

[tsarc888]

great thread. Someone needed to say this. It's 1 game.

 

[unckeyherb]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

My prediction is that he doesn't finish the season in the top 10 RBs in a ppr league. These people boasting I wouldn't trade Best for Rice, Peterson, or MJD are laughable. Will he be a solid RB2 for fantasy teams? Yes he is talented enough for that. People are failing to remember that he plays for the Lions. That in itself is a lot to overcome.

End of the year, barring injury, you believe there will be 10 or more RB's that have higher points totals in PPR leagues? I'd take that bet.

 

[CalBear]

He's talking about your week 1 performance, Jahvid.

You mean when he scored the TD that made it 7-3 Detroit, and the TD that made it 14-3? That kind of garbage?

 

[monkeysee]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

My prediction is that he doesn't finish the season in the top 10 RBs in a ppr league. These people boasting I wouldn't trade Best for Rice, Peterson, or MJD are laughable. Will he be a solid RB2 for fantasy teams? Yes he is talented enough for that. People are failing to remember that he plays for the Lions. That in itself is a lot to overcome.

If Best stays healthy, he will finish in the top 10 in PPR's. Which 10 RB's do you like better?

Oh wait...now its IF HE STAYS HEALTHY. I don't know which 10 RBs it will be that finish ahead of him. But I will be back to discuss it later in the year. I have it bookmarked. This Best hype is ridiculous. And I have the guy on one of my teams!

 

[unckeyherb]

foolhardy. You go ahead and wait till the season is over to realize what all of us 'fanboys' see now. The guy is a stud and should produce great numbers all year.

He is a stud why? Because he had 1 great game? LMAO. Get over yourself fool.

no reason to get snippy jerkoff. I'd say he is a stud because he is currently the number one RB in the league. That is called a fact. Throw out one in support of you theory please. Also, last time I checked, people that write LMAO are the real fools, FWIW.

 

[Squatch]

Thanks for the new thread

Actually this is a new twist and different from the BEST is the new BARRY SANDERS threads. Mortgage the house to get him because he had 1 great game! I can't wait to laugh at some of these people hyping this guy over such proven talents like MJD and Rice.

How is Rice a more proven talent? In 31 games, over 500 touches, Rice has now scored a total of 8 TDs. Best has scored five TDs in two games with 45 touches. I guarantee that by the time Best has 500 career touches, he will have more than 8 TDs.Rice is also averaging 3.5 ypc this year and has yet to score.

Take off your homer glasses, fan boy.Rice finished most leagues as a top 5 scorer last year. He proved it over a full season. I happen to be one of those few rational people that judge a player's value over a full season. NOT 2 GAMES.

The snarky response would be to say something along the lines that yes, one SEASON proves a player's fantasy worth, but that would be rude. So, I'll just say that you may want to search for analogies transcending one season. IOW, a small sample size is not the best ammunition to belittle a tiny sample size. YMV.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Presuming if he stays healthy or that Kevin Smith is a useful handcuff....

Is it worth trading a Top-3 to 10 WR or QB for Best to pair with a another Top-3 RB?

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

This thread sucks.

 

[plyka]

First and foremost allow me to state: I acknowledge Best has talent.

He's averaging 3.2 YPC.

I don't understand how everyone can go completely insane about a player who is averaging that low of an average. I understand that he has upside but for christ sakes 3.2 is god-awful for the "next Barry Sanders" or a "Top 5-Dynasty player". Hell let him post a game where he averages over 5 yards!

Arguments made about other RBs that are for whatever reason aren't being used against Best.

1.) __________ is often criticized for his lack of ability to be a "between the tackles" runner. He's a great pass-catcher and can take it to the house every time he has the ball. Everyone acknowledges his burst is amazing and he is an GREAT threat in the Red-Zone. Some critics claim that he is too undersized to be an every down back and needs a complimentary runner.

Whether you want to place Reggie Bush in the blank or Jahvid Best it still works. Not to mention that Jahvid Best is actually smaller than Bush. I don't understand that the same people who chastise Reggie Bush for these qualities; ignore the fact that Best shares them.

Let's take a time machine shall we?

It's 2006. Reggie Bush's Rookie season and he has an amazing game:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2006120304/2...13/49ers@saints

10 Carries / 37 Yards / 3 TD

9 Receptions / 131 Yards / 1 TD

Woah! This fella is going to have a HELL of a career. We all know how that played out. Bush is a superstar player but not the Top 5 Fantasy Player everyone would have expected after he puts up total like this. It was easy for Bush owners to justify his paltry YPC because he was hammering it into the end-zone.

Not saying that Best is going to have a similar career as Reggie Bush; they are different players. Perspective.

2.) ___________ benefits from his system. His value as a Fantasy Football is boosted by the fact he's going to touch the ball 25+ times a game and get goal line carries. His YPC may be low but he'll be the teams bell cow and catch passes.

You can throw Jahvid Best in there... or you can place Matt Forte. Many people tried discrediting Matt Forte's credibility as a ballcarrier simply for the fact his offense inflates his numbers.

Back into the time machine!

It's 2008; Matt Forte's rookie season! The guy is putting up games with Touchdown after Touchdown. His YPC is fairly weak but he's touching the ball so much it doesn't matter! He ends up with 1,200 Yards and 12 TDs. Steal of the draft, baby! Everyone acquire this stud in Dynasty right now! You all remember he was a Top-5 redraft pick in the 2009 season, right?

One year later and it's the 2009 season. Everyone hopped on the Forte bandwagon... and the wheels fell off the sides! His YPC remained low, he still got all the passes, all the goal line carries... but the Touchdowns stopped coming! Everyone pissed and moaned about his awful season! Getting upset they traded half their teams away for this "sure-fire" stud.

Not saying that Best is going to have a similar career to Matt Forte; they are VERY different players. Perspective. The hype for Forte was ridiculous on these boards; people were in love with the FF points he was putting up rather than how he was getting them. Touchdowns are a rough thing to predict and when you have a player who depends on them for production; eek!

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Listen here. I'm not trying to ruffle and feathers. I'm neither on the pro-Best or anti-Best bandwagon. I'm staying put right in the middle for now. I'm just trying to raise a little perspective and warn you: Buyer Beware. Look at the past and learn from it. Every time someone has a spectacular week everyone on here rants and raves about the "flavor of the week". (IE: Arian Foster.) There are still plenty of question marks for Best:

1.) Is he a 300 touch guy? Or will he be plagued with injuries is whole career.

2.) Is he a product of the system? ...are his TDs based on talent or situation?

3.) Once Kevin Smith is healthy will he steal carries? ...especially in the redzone?

4.) Is he more suited for a RBBC? Should he be rectified to insure he is just as explosive week 1 as in week 16?

Everyone here is telling you that Best is the "best". I'm not here to tell you he's not... only to make sure you have a full grasp on the situation. Don't get caught up in the hype. Weigh it all and then make an educated decision so that you don't end up chasing a mirage.

It's funny that just on the other board i was "a detractor" telling people to calm down in saying that Best is far better than Rice. Now i'm on here defending Best, lol. Has it ever occurred to you that you're both wrong? And the guy in the middle of both sides is probably the one closer to the mark?

1) You take YPC into effect but fail to take his yards per touch into effect, even though that's a much more important metric.

2) Just because Reggie Bush had a great game during his rookie year, doesn't mean that everyone who has a great game during their rookie year is going to end up like Reggie Bush. Do you think that it's hard for me to find a game by CJ or ADP, in their rookie years, in which they had a low YPC and a high TD total? Of course not. But that type of reasoning isn't reasoning at all. It is a completely invalid argument. You're attempting to equate two different properties because in 1 game they had similar outputs. That doesn't fly in objective reasoning class.

3) You stated: "Not saying that Best is going to have a similar career as Reggie Bush; they are different players. Perspective"

Yes, very nice statement indeed. Yet it is just one sentence and the rest of your essay completely disregarded it. Instead of just saying something and doing the opposite, you probably should have listened to your statement and not continued to go on and do the exact opposite for the rest of your post. Bush and Best are completely different players. The only "evidence" you supported to establish that they were similar was that they had 1 similar game, and yet you continued on under the assumption that you had proved they were destined to live out their careers in exact replication. The truth is far from it, they are different as you stated originally, and thus using one as a roadmap for the other is invalid. It won't work. So basically i agree 100% with your original sentence and disagree with all the rest of your post, lol.

Basically, why don't we wait and see what happens. I think Best will prove to be a top 5 RB in PPR leagues, in normal redraft leagues i would put in 10 or so range.

 

[shortbow]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

Finley doesnt have 5 TDs in 2 games, Best has surpassed Finley.

 

[Jayrod]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

My prediction is that he doesn't finish the season in the top 10 RBs in a ppr league. These people boasting I wouldn't trade Best for Rice, Peterson, or MJD are laughable. Will he be a solid RB2 for fantasy teams? Yes he is talented enough for that. People are failing to remember that he plays for the Lions. That in itself is a lot to overcome.

If Best stays healthy, he will finish in the top 10 in PPR's. Which 10 RB's do you like better?

#1 - he won't stay healthy...which is the main reason I think he'll miss the top 10#2 - With his head start and if he stays healthy, all of these won't likely have better ending season stats. But from here on, I'd rather have:CJ, AP, MJD, Rice, Foster, Gore, SJax, Forte, Turner or McCoy

 

[Go deep]

Oh wait...now its IF HE STAYS HEALTHY. I don't know which 10 RBs it will be that finish ahead of him. But I will be back to discuss it later in the year. I have it bookmarked. This Best hype is ridiculous. And I have the guy on one of my teams!

No you wont. You will be back once or twice when Best has a bad game, but you will not be showing your face around here at the end of the season.

By the way, wishing you had him on your team and actually having him on your team are two different things.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Let's take a time machine shall we?

People love comparisons like this, but they mean very little. Every player is different, and they are usually put in very differnet situations and asked to do different things.Best looks the part. That's all I know right now, and I'm on board his train.

 

[Jayrod]

He's talking about your week 1 performance, Jahvid.

You mean when he I scored the TD that made it 7-3 Detroit, and the TD that made it 14-3? That kind of garbage?

fixed...I didn't write it, but I believe those are the two TD's he was referring to.

 

[wdubb]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

He's talking about your week 1 performance, Jahvid.

not to be picky, but when Jahvid scored his second TD, the score was 14-3, and the lions shouldve won the game in the end (the infamous no-td call)hardly 'garbage' TDs. because if they are 'garbage', a lot of MJD's and AP's TDs last season were also garbage.

 

[monkeysee]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

Finley doesnt have 5 TDs in 2 games, Best has surpassed Finley.

Apples and oranges. At least Finley will finish as a top 5 TE. But yes the hype on both are funny.

 

[Jayrod]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

He's talking about your week 1 performance, Jahvid.

not to be picky, but when Jahvid scored his second TD, the score was 14-3, and the lions shouldve won the game in the end (the infamous no-td call)hardly 'garbage' TDs. because if they are 'garbage', a lot of MJD's and AP's TDs last season were also garbage.

Maybe he meant "garbage" because they were short yardage dive ins instead of longer runs...but I personally wouldn't call them garbage. Lucky, yes, but not garbage.

 

[CalBear]

He's talking about your week 1 performance, Jahvid.

You mean when he I scored the TD that made it 7-3 Detroit, and the TD that made it 14-3? That kind of garbage?

fixed...I didn't write it, but I believe those are the two TD's he was referring to.

So what's your point? You think that first-half TDs shouldn't count? Or that scoring from 4 and 7 yards out against Chicago in a competitive game is easy? (Felix Jones, 7/7/0, Marion Barber 11/31/0, Tashard Choice 1/-1/0).

 

[fightingillini]

This dude is reaching Jermichael Finley-esque hype levels.

exactly. When Best has one of those 30 yard games without 2 garbage TDs things will quiet down and I will be bumping a few threads.

Garbage TDs? You do realize that two of Best's TDs were in the first half this week, right? And that Detroit only lost by 3 points, and had the ball at the end of the game?If you're going to bump threads, you should come up with a prediction so you can be dead wrong in public. Where do you think Best ends the season?

My prediction is that he doesn't finish the season in the top 10 RBs in a ppr league. These people boasting I wouldn't trade Best for Rice, Peterson, or MJD are laughable. Will he be a solid RB2 for fantasy teams? Yes he is talented enough for that. People are failing to remember that he plays for the Lions. That in itself is a lot to overcome.

You understand that Best had 14 targets last game. 14. Assuming Best stays healthy, he's a lock for 4-5 catches a game. DET is going to be behind a lot, so Best is going to get his dumpoff passes. Even if he gets only 50-60 yards rushing, adding 4-5 receptions for 30-40 yards and he has 13-15 points, before any TDs. Top 10 easy.Who are your ten that will finish ahead of him?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Best is one of the only backs in the NFC Central that doesn't have the Lions on his schedule twice as well. Food for thought.

But he does have Bucs twice on the schedule...oh wait