That was just a plot to motivate....oh forget it...I am now wondering how ProFootballTalk will spin this, they had Gholston as the guy, and thought the Jake Long talk was just to lowball Gholston.
see my signatureThat was just a plot to motivate....oh forget it...I am now wondering how ProFootballTalk will spin this, they had Gholston as the guy, and thought the Jake Long talk was just to lowball Gholston.![]()
That was quick:http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/Good move by the Fins.
I am now wondering how ProFootballTalk will spin this, they had Gholston as the guy, and thought the Jake Long talk was just to lowball Gholston.
I love this. Its Tuesday and we already have 1 pick off the board... wonder how many will go before Sat?!?!?The St. Louis Rams are now free to negotiate with any incoming rookie. Except left tackle Jake Long
I can't recall that anytime where the first overall has signed that the 2nd pick is also signed before the draft.I love this. Its Tuesday and we already have 1 pick off the board... wonder how many will go before Sat?!?!?The St. Louis Rams are now free to negotiate with any incoming rookie. Except left tackle Jake Long
I would settle for the information of who the Rams choose to talk to. They have been a big mystery all spring. Dorsey/Long/Gholston?I can't recall that anytime where the first overall has signed that the 2nd pick is also signed before the draft.I love this. Its Tuesday and we already have 1 pick off the board... wonder how many will go before Sat?!?!?The St. Louis Rams are now free to negotiate with any incoming rookie. Except left tackle Jake Long
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that tackle Jake Long will receive $30 million guaranteed as part of his five-year, $57 million deal with the Miami Dolphins.Long will get $2 million less in guaranteed money and $4 million less in total money than Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell received a year ago, but Long is tied up for one less season.And since different people interpret the term “guaranteed” differently, the only way to compare Long’s deal to Russell’s is to line ‘em up and parse the language.For Parcells, it’s a win because he paid less money. For Long (and his agent), it’s a win because the deal covers one less season.We’d still love to know whether Vernon Gholston had a meaningful chance to take less money than that.
Wow, I think I'd rather cough up 4 mill more, and have the guy for another year.the money per profootballtalk.com
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that tackle Jake Long will receive $30 million guaranteed as part of his five-year, $57 million deal with the Miami Dolphins.Long will get $2 million less in guaranteed money and $4 million less in total money than Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell received a year ago, but Long is tied up for one less season.And since different people interpret the term “guaranteed” differently, the only way to compare Long’s deal to Russell’s is to line ‘em up and parse the language.For Parcells, it’s a win because he paid less money. For Long (and his agent), it’s a win because the deal covers one less season.We’d still love to know whether Vernon Gholston had a meaningful chance to take less money than that.
Now that the 1st teams deal has been agreed upon, yes pick 2 can begin negotiations.Can St. Louis begin negotiating now? I thought it was just the #1 team that could do that.
They certainly can.Really, they can talk to guys whenever they want, and probably even discuss contract with them.I am guessing when Long signs his deal, they could even sign someone to a deal, but I doubt they would have that much time. This is good news for the top 5, as the market has become set, and especially the Rams, as they can get a head start, and see how sign-able their guy is.Can St. Louis begin negotiating now? I thought it was just the #1 team that could do that.
Kind of eliminates one of the major excuses for the Dolphin's ineptitude these last few seasons. While depth on the OL might still be a concern, it shouldn't be the standby reason for floundering. Now, about the DL... the secondary.... QB....LT LongLG MorminoC SateleRG SmileyRT Carey![]()
In theory there is nothing; as long as the agrements are in place. Would make Saturday very anti-climactic though.IS there anything preventing the Rams from signing the no. 2? I know they will want to get a deal done before the draft to avoid the all-too-common rookie holdout. Seems like if they get the right deal with the guy they want they could declare their pick as well. What's to stop this from snowballing well into the first round?
You have many questions Mr. Sparkle...COWBOY TOM CRUISE BLUE JEANS!!if the Rams take Dorsey...that would mess up alot of boards. If Dorsey goes to Rams, do the Falcons take Matt Ryan?Is is Saturday yet....good stuff!!!!!
except that w/the additional cap space this year, the total package would have been more than Russell's....that 6th yr would have made Long's deal close to $70M, which no owner wants to seeWow, I think I'd rather cough up 4 mill more, and have the guy for another year.the money per profootballtalk.com
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that tackle Jake Long will receive $30 million guaranteed as part of his five-year, $57 million deal with the Miami Dolphins.
Long will get $2 million less in guaranteed money and $4 million less in total money than Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell received a year ago, but Long is tied up for one less season.
And since different people interpret the term “guaranteed” differently, the only way to compare Long’s deal to Russell’s is to line ‘em up and parse the language.
For Parcells, it’s a win because he paid less money. For Long (and his agent), it’s a win because the deal covers one less season.
We’d still love to know whether Vernon Gholston had a meaningful chance to take less money than that.
I don't understand your post.except that w/the additional cap space this year, the total package would have been more than Russell's....that 6th yr would have made Long's deal close to $70M, which no owner wants to seeWow, I think I'd rather cough up 4 mill more, and have the guy for another year.the money per profootballtalk.com
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that tackle Jake Long will receive $30 million guaranteed as part of his five-year, $57 million deal with the Miami Dolphins.
Long will get $2 million less in guaranteed money and $4 million less in total money than Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell received a year ago, but Long is tied up for one less season.
And since different people interpret the term “guaranteed” differently, the only way to compare Long’s deal to Russell’s is to line ‘em up and parse the language.
For Parcells, it’s a win because he paid less money. For Long (and his agent), it’s a win because the deal covers one less season.
We’d still love to know whether Vernon Gholston had a meaningful chance to take less money than that.
I agree, but then he probably would have been asking for more than that for another season as they were probably wanting more than Russell got.Wow, I think I'd rather cough up 4 mill more, and have the guy for another year.the money per profootballtalk.com
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that tackle Jake Long will receive $30 million guaranteed as part of his five-year, $57 million deal with the Miami Dolphins.Long will get $2 million less in guaranteed money and $4 million less in total money than Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell received a year ago, but Long is tied up for one less season.And since different people interpret the term “guaranteed” differently, the only way to compare Long’s deal to Russell’s is to line ‘em up and parse the language.For Parcells, it’s a win because he paid less money. For Long (and his agent), it’s a win because the deal covers one less season.We’d still love to know whether Vernon Gholston had a meaningful chance to take less money than that.
i dont either but with 4 days to go and the bar set, we could ses something done. I doubt it but it would be fun to see Goodell up there rattling off names since a few players are already signed.I can't recall that anytime where the first overall has signed that the 2nd pick is also signed before the draft.I love this. Its Tuesday and we already have 1 pick off the board... wonder how many will go before Sat?!?!?The St. Louis Rams are now free to negotiate with any incoming rookie. Except left tackle Jake Long
In theory there is nothing; as long as the agrements are in place. Would make Saturday very anti-climate though.IS there anything preventing the Rams from signing the no. 2? I know they will want to get a deal done before the draft to avoid the all-too-common rookie holdout. Seems like if they get the right deal with the guy they want they could declare their pick as well. What's to stop this from snowballing well into the first round?
Yes.I'm surprised by this as I really did think they'd take Gholston. But think Long is the better pick anyway.if the Rams take Dorsey...that would mess up alot of boards. If Dorsey goes to Rams, do the Falcons take Matt Ryan?
The carbon footprint of the NFL draft is decidedly anti-climate.In theory there is nothing; as long as the agrements are in place. Would make Saturday very anti-climate though.IS there anything preventing the Rams from signing the no. 2? I know they will want to get a deal done before the draft to avoid the all-too-common rookie holdout. Seems like if they get the right deal with the guy they want they could declare their pick as well. What's to stop this from snowballing well into the first round?![]()
corrected.In theory there is nothing; as long as the agrements are in place. Would make Saturday very anti-climate though.IS there anything preventing the Rams from signing the no. 2? I know they will want to get a deal done before the draft to avoid the all-too-common rookie holdout. Seems like if they get the right deal with the guy they want they could declare their pick as well. What's to stop this from snowballing well into the first round?![]()
I think that we'll know more on Sunday. With Long in the fold at OT, they absolutely HAVE to be hoping a guy like Groves drops to them in rd. 2.Does Beck start the year at QB in Miami? I heard on NFL network after revieviwing the film from last season that Tuna is excited about Beck as a prospect going forward. Anyone know how high they are on Beck?
We'll take Mcfadden, the patriots will take Gholston, and I'll start drinking HEAVILY>Theoretical:1. J. Long2. Dorsey3. Ryan4. C. Long5. Alberts...What if the Jets get to pick between Gholston and McFadden?
Tuna isnt a 1st round quarterback guy. Beck will be the man to get the job done. If he fails they have a capable Backup in McCown. Beck is signed for dirt cheap. Beck has not had a real opportunity. Beck is VERY smart. By the way - a while back Bill Parcells when he was an analyst offered a look into how he operates. He said his 11 Quarterback commandments were : Ignore other opinions Clowns can't run a huddleFat QBs can't avoid the rush Know your job coldKnow your own players Be the same guy every dayThrowing the ball away is a good play Learn to manage the game: clock, clock, clock - Get your team in the endzone Don't panic Don't be a celebrity quarterback Round 2 I expect the Phins to look at defense.Does Beck start the year at QB in Miami? I heard on NFL network after revieviwing the film from last season that Tuna is excited about Beck as a prospect going forward. Anyone know how high they are on Beck?
Only if KC takes him; otherwise I think he'll be that guy who goes in the mid 1st round and people wonder, "what happened?" when the reality is that's where he probably slotted in the first place.Has Albert really ascended to Top 5 status?
Albert/Clady/whatever. I just put him there because he's the hot name. It was just intented to be anybody but Gholston.Has Albert really ascended to Top 5 status?
Only if KC takes him; otherwise I think he'll be that guy who goes in the mid 1st round and people wonder, "what happened?" when the reality is that's where he probably slotted in the first place.Has Albert really ascended to Top 5 status?