Jamal Lewis (2 Viewers)

[Kiddnets]

Couldn't see the game - stat line was decent but interested in how he ran along with what situations. Were there any GL carries involved?

Interested in him as a #2 RB for the stretch - whats the consensus on him? Is he back and a legit #2 in most leagues? Still has yet to post a monster game but has looked better than I thought so far

Any comments from homers or owners keeping an eye on him?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

He ran hard, and when there were holes he hit them. The Ravens O-line, unfortunately for JLewis owners, is not at the same level of dominance that it was a few years back. I noticed a few plays, when there was no obvious hole to run through, that Jamal repeated last year's patented "stutter step", where he simply fails to run forward and instead shuffles his feet repeatedly.

Still, Jamal looks to be good for 90-110 total yards each week, probably 6-8 TDs for the year. Not bad for RB2, but he won't be an every week stud. McNair is running the offense efficiently and making defenses pay for stacking the line. Over the season, Jamal will benefit.

 

[Warhogs]

I have not seen the Ravens play but have followed the live scoring on nfl.com

One thing that worries me is that it seems like he has been running OK but the Ravens have been throwing the ball a lot and stalling out when they get in the red zone. I'm not sure if this is accurate but it seems that way. I would like to hear what any Ravens homers have to say. Jamal seems to be running OK by looking at the stats but are they not using him to pound it in when they get close?

 

[Kiddnets]

He ran hard, and when there were holes he hit them. The Ravens O-line, unfortunately for JLewis owners, is not at the same level of dominance that it was a few years back. I noticed a few plays, when there was no obvious hole to run through, that Jamal repeated last year's patented "stutter step", where he simply fails to run forward and instead shuffles his feet repeatedly. Still, Jamal looks to be good for 90-110 total yards each week, probably 6-8 TDs for the year. Not bad for RB2, but he won't be an every week stud. McNair is running the offense efficiently and making defenses pay for stacking the line. Over the season, Jamal will benefit.

Thanks man - any vulturing from Musa or Anderson? No GL opportunities to see who was in?

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

I watched some of the game and it seemed to me that McNair is not playing up to his potential. To me the offence should be much better than what is currently on the field.

I agree with what the other posters have said but would like to also add that the Ravens have hit Heap twice (in the past two games) within the 2 yard line instead of running it in with Jamal.

In my opinion this is a situation that you have to be patient on cause if and when the offence gets rolling Jamal could be good for 90yds and a TD every week.

 

[Kiddnets]

I watched some of the game and it seemed to me that McNair is not playing up to his potential. To me the offence should be much better than what is currently on the field.I agree with what the other posters have said but would like to also add that the Ravens have hit Heap twice (in the past two games) within the 2 yard line instead of running it in with Jamal.In my opinion this is a situation that you have to be patient on cause if and when the offence gets rolling Jamal could be good for 90yds and a TD every week.

Was J LEwis in the game during the GL situation or was it Musa?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I watched some of the game and it seemed to me that McNair is not playing up to his potential. To me the offence should be much better than what is currently on the field.I agree with what the other posters have said but would like to also add that the Ravens have hit Heap twice (in the past two games) within the 2 yard line instead of running it in with Jamal.In my opinion this is a situation that you have to be patient on cause if and when the offence gets rolling Jamal could be good for 90yds and a TD every week.

Completely agree on Jamal. The biggest worry for Jamal owners is that the Ravens continue to throw on 1st and goal from the 3-yd line. But unless the o-line improves, they cannot bust open holes against a 9-man front. Billick is smart to throw to Heap from the 3.......he was wide open.I thought McNair played pretty well.....in the 2nd half. First half he was missing open receivers and didn't do a great job of managing the offense. Although frankly, I saw the play calling of "offensive genius Brian Billick" to be the bigger issue. Their offense continues to lack any creativity. The guy made his name by play-calling for Randy Moss and has since proven to be anything but an offensive genius.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I watched some of the game and it seemed to me that McNair is not playing up to his potential. To me the offence should be much better than what is currently on the field.I agree with what the other posters have said but would like to also add that the Ravens have hit Heap twice (in the past two games) within the 2 yard line instead of running it in with Jamal.In my opinion this is a situation that you have to be patient on cause if and when the offence gets rolling Jamal could be good for 90yds and a TD every week.

Was J LEwis in the game during the GL situation or was it Musa?

Jamal was.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Jamal Lewis was in for GL's

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

He ran hard, and when there were holes he hit them. The Ravens O-line, unfortunately for JLewis owners, is not at the same level of dominance that it was a few years back. I noticed a few plays, when there was no obvious hole to run through, that Jamal repeated last year's patented "stutter step", where he simply fails to run forward and instead shuffles his feet repeatedly. Still, Jamal looks to be good for 90-110 total yards each week, probably 6-8 TDs for the year. Not bad for RB2, but he won't be an every week stud. McNair is running the offense efficiently and making defenses pay for stacking the line. Over the season, Jamal will benefit.

Thanks man - any vulturing from Musa or Anderson? No GL opportunities to see who was in?

Musa played mainly on 3rd down. He had 1 or 2 carries on 1st down, mainly to spell Jamal. Anderson didn't touch the ball.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I have Jamal, and I'm just going to be patient. He's putting up decent numbers as far as yardage goes, and the TD's will come.

 

[Kiddnets]

Just checked out his schedule - very tough - SD next week - Pitt twice during end of the season/FF playoffs.

Still looks to be a solid #2RB despite schedule? At least it looks like McNair is not going to be doing those 1 yd sneaks anymore!

 

[cowboy homer]

Just checked out his schedule - very tough - SD next week - Pitt twice during end of the season/FF playoffs. Still looks to be a solid #2RB despite schedule? At least it looks like McNair is not going to be doing those 1 yd sneaks anymore!

Pitt can be run on. See Fred Taylor. Im trying to trade for him also in one of my leagues. Watched the entire game and he looked good. He got the GL carries and Musa doesnt seem to be a factor in the offense. I think as the season goes on andMcnair gets the O going he will start to score TDs. 1300 7-9 tds is my guess. Not going to be Jamal of old but still a very good RB2.

 

[lod2005]

Couldn't see the game - stat line was decent but interested in how he ran along with what situations. Were there any GL carries involved? Interested in him as a #2 RB for the stretch - whats the consensus on him? Is he back and a legit #2 in most leagues? Still has yet to post a monster game but has looked better than I thought so farAny comments from homers or owners keeping an eye on him?

As an owner, I have come to the conclusion that he has absolutely no vision to see a hole. Only once did he just say screw the play, I am bouncing this outside and away he went. Many times he just ran right into whoever was in front of him. One time he had a gaping hole about 3 feet to the right of the pile he ran into. How could he not see that???? 1 yard for him = 15 pitter patter steps.He's on notice.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Just checked out his schedule - very tough - SD next week - Pitt twice during end of the season/FF playoffs. Still looks to be a solid #2RB despite schedule? At least it looks like McNair is not going to be doing those 1 yd sneaks anymore!

Don't be so sure, On the 2 pt attempt they ran a rollout play that, if not covered well by the browns could have easily been a run or quick dump-off for McNair (it was eventually an incomplete to Heap). They have a fair number of non-power-running plays in the repertoire for short yardage situations.The big problem I see is that the line is not opening many holes, particularly in short yardage. If one opens up, Lewis can hit it and rumble fairly well. Once he got in the open he showed decent speed and power. But he seemed to be getting hit in the backfield more that I like. If the defense is really looking to stop the inside run, I think they can do it most of the time.

 

[Kiddnets]

well just picked up Lewis - hope he pans out. Most of my research shows that he is the man so far - if Balt puts together a nice offensive run I expect him to be worthy of a #2 RB slot.

Thanks for the info here and post any more if you have it

 

[cowboy homer]

well just picked up Lewis - hope he pans out. Most of my research shows that he is the man so far - if Balt puts together a nice offensive run I expect him to be worthy of a #2 RB slot. Thanks for the info here and post any more if you have it

What did you give up for him? I think Lewis is a great number 2 RB. I have him in two leagues and cant wait till he starts tearing it up

 

[gman8343]

well just picked up Lewis - hope he pans out. Most of my research shows that he is the man so far - if Balt puts together a nice offensive run I expect him to be worthy of a #2 RB slot. Thanks for the info here and post any more if you have it

What did you give up for him? I think Lewis is a great number 2 RB. I have him in two leagues and cant wait till he starts tearing it up

Not sure he's ever going to 'tear it up' this season. He could end up being a solid #2, as he seems to be getting between 70-90 yds a game with a TD here and there. I was very high on Jamal this year but I've tempered my enthusiasm somewhat - I think 1200 yds and 7 TDs is a reasonable expectation.

 

[Kiddnets]

well just picked up Lewis - hope he pans out. Most of my research shows that he is the man so far - if Balt puts together a nice offensive run I expect him to be worthy of a #2 RB slot. Thanks for the info here and post any more if you have it

What did you give up for him? I think Lewis is a great number 2 RB. I have him in two leagues and cant wait till he starts tearing it up

Its a 2 yr keeper league $500 cap - traded Bush ($126) and L White ($40) for Lewis ($85), H Ward ($50)and Akers ($12)Our league rewards TD's more than yds and just didn't think Reggie would see enough of the endzone to justify keeping him at that price. Dying for a #2 RB with Willis and Lamont (0 RB TDs so far this year!)- taking a risk that either Lewis or Jordan pans out as a #2. Needed some ins.

 

[Sweetness_34]

With the Baltimore Defense looking really good, and with the Bengals and Browns again stinking on run D, Jamal makes for a great Flex starter every week. The opportunities to run the ball will be there thanks to the Balt D and some of the defenses will be stinky enough to a point where his production at the flex will be enough to win you games on those weeks. Having said that, I would definitely be careful of starting him against San Diego this weekend.

 

[saintfool]

I watched some of the game and it seemed to me that McNair is not playing up to his potential. To me the offence should be much better than what is currently on the field.I agree with what the other posters have said but would like to also add that the Ravens have hit Heap twice (in the past two games) within the 2 yard line instead of running it in with Jamal.In my opinion this is a situation that you have to be patient on cause if and when the offence gets rolling Jamal could be good for 90yds and a TD every week.

Completely agree on Jamal. The biggest worry for Jamal owners is that the Ravens continue to throw on 1st and goal from the 3-yd line. But unless the o-line improves, they cannot bust open holes against a 9-man front. Billick is smart to throw to Heap from the 3.......he was wide open.I thought McNair played pretty well.....in the 2nd half. First half he was missing open receivers and didn't do a great job of managing the offense. Although frankly, I saw the play calling of "offensive genius Brian Billick" to be the bigger issue. Their offense continues to lack any creativity. The guy made his name by play-calling for Randy Moss and has since proven to be anything but an offensive genius.

I believe that Jim Fassel is the current offensive coordinator. he was a special consultant last year too. Billick hasn't been calling the plays for years, i think.

 

[SigEp316]

I think Jamal's numbers are just going to improve as the year goes...As McNair begins to settle in and get that offense moving.

 

[thecardiackid]

well just picked up Lewis - hope he pans out. Most of my research shows that he is the man so far - if Balt puts together a nice offensive run I expect him to be worthy of a #2 RB slot. Thanks for the info here and post any more if you have it

What did you give up for him? I think Lewis is a great number 2 RB. I have him in two leagues and cant wait till he starts tearing it up

Related:Working a deal now to get JLewis / E. Wilford (JAX)for A. BryantI've been struggling w/ Caddy @ RB2 and now have FWP and Caddy on byes, so time to spend some WR $.

 

[Kiddnets]

well just picked up Lewis - hope he pans out. Most of my research shows that he is the man so far - if Balt puts together a nice offensive run I expect him to be worthy of a #2 RB slot. Thanks for the info here and post any more if you have it

What did you give up for him? I think Lewis is a great number 2 RB. I have him in two leagues and cant wait till he starts tearing it up

Related:Working a deal now to get JLewis / E. Wilford (JAX)for A. BryantI've been struggling w/ Caddy @ RB2 and now have FWP and Caddy on byes, so time to spend some WR $.

I would jump on that deal - solid RB like Lewis is worth way more than Bryant!

 

[Rhino802]

Couldn't see the game - stat line was decent but interested in how he ran along with what situations. Were there any GL carries involved? Interested in him as a #2 RB for the stretch - whats the consensus on him? Is he back and a legit #2 in most leagues? Still has yet to post a monster game but has looked better than I thought so farAny comments from homers or owners keeping an eye on him?

As an owner, I have come to the conclusion that he has absolutely no vision to see a hole. Only once did he just say screw the play, I am bouncing this outside and away he went. Many times he just ran right into whoever was in front of him. One time he had a gaping hole about 3 feet to the right of the pile he ran into. How could he not see that???? 1 yard for him = 15 pitter patter steps.He's on notice.

Good observation - although even more pronounced in prior 2 games. For Jam to succeed, McNair is going to have to be more effective in medium term passing game. At this point, it is apparant that McNair just doesn't know the plays or at least where the routes well enough so teams are able to move at least 1 safety into the box and the line isn't good enough to do more than get the initial push.Once McNair masters the playbook and/or demonstrates that he can consistently throw the 12-14 yard passes, then Jam ought to have more success. Jam does look better this year as last year he was too indecisive when hitting the line so at least he is picking up positive yardage. However, he has yet to demonstrate any vision, which could be do in part to the fact that he prefers to run out of a traditional I and they just aren't running as many I formations this year as Dan Wilcox has been the lead blocking instead of a fullback.As the season progresses, I think his #s can go up in terms of yardage to average in the 80-85 range with him not getting more than 20-23 carries.

 

[thecardiackid]

well just picked up Lewis - hope he pans out. Most of my research shows that he is the man so far - if Balt puts together a nice offensive run I expect him to be worthy of a #2 RB slot. Thanks for the info here and post any more if you have it

What did you give up for him? I think Lewis is a great number 2 RB. I have him in two leagues and cant wait till he starts tearing it up

Related:Working a deal now to get JLewis / E. Wilford (JAX)for A. BryantI've been struggling w/ Caddy @ RB2 and now have FWP and Caddy on byes, so time to spend some WR $.

I would jump on that deal - solid RB like Lewis is worth way more than Bryant!

Yea, it's done... but in a keeper league, it's debatable. If Bryant and A Smith keep it up, AB will be a late 2nd rounder (ADP wise - top 10 WR) next year, but in most cases could be kept for "less" since he wasn't taken early this year (or held). (i.e. we can keep 3 guys drafted from the first 5 rounds, and 5 of the rest)But :getsbackontopic: I do like Jamal as a #2 this year, even w/ a tough rushing schedule. Mainly b/c that defense will be getting the ball back a lot. And McNair will do enough to keep the oposition honest.Also grabbed musa smith for some insurance.