James Hardy may be in trouble (1 Viewer)

[GroveDiesel]

Awesome. Nothing a fan likes to see more than one of their big draft picks pulling a gun on his father (allegedly).

LINK

News article.

 

[mattyt]

I take a some exception to the PFT writeup that accompanies the article.

1) Hardy had a permit to carry the gun (no mention of that). 2) Nowhere is it reported that he actually pointed the gun at his father.

Still not a good thing though.

 

[redman]

1) Hardy had a permit to carry the gun (no mention of that).

If you're driving recklessly, what does it matter that you have a driver's license?

2) Nowhere is it reported that he actually pointed the gun at his father.

Reaching much? The article says he "pulled a gun on his father". What does that mean to you?

 

[zadok]

Per PFT:

NOT THE FIRST INCIDENT FOR HARDY

Posted by Mike Florio on May 13, 2008, 9:49 a.m.

In response to the news that Bills receiver James Hardy, a second-round pick in last month’s draft, allegedly pulled a gun on his father on Mother’s Day (his mom would be wise to avoid Hardy on Father’s Day), a league source has alerted us to the fact that this wasn’t the first domestic incident involving the former Indiana standout.

Two years ago, Hardy spent three nights in jail after allegedly committing battery against his girlfriend. He was charged with domestic battery and interfering with the reporting of a crime. Hardy eventually was released on bond.

When his girlfriend called 911, an operator heard the woman say that Hardy had “hit her and her baby.” The line then disconnected, apparently because Hardy had yanked the phone out of the wall.

The source described Hardy to us as a “scary dude,” and said that the reports of Hardy striking a baby scared many teams away from him.

But not the Bills.

http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=...2&comview=1

 

[mattyt]

1) Hardy had a permit to carry the gun (no mention of that).

If you're driving recklessly, what does it matter that you have a driver's license?

2) Nowhere is it reported that he actually pointed the gun at his father.

Reaching much? The article says he "pulled a gun on his father". What does that mean to you?

It just seems like an awfully small amount of info to go on for PFT to start banging the drums for suspensions for crimes that were allegedly committed.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

uh oh.

with Levy still around, I doubt they would have taken this guy.

hope he can turn things around for his sake and the teams.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

 

[Jason Wood]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

Wellllll...let's not pretend that interview dropped him to the 3rd. That interview was an illustration of what dropped Manningham.

 

[redman]

The source described Hardy to us as a “scary dude,” and said that the reports of Hardy striking a baby scared many teams away from him.But not the Bills.

The magnitude of the pick is not the same, but as with Ryan Leaf when the Chargers apparently missed or ignored his personal issues that made teams question his character, it baffles me that a team could miss this info or deem it unimportant.

 

[mdog1967]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

I think there was a Little More to Manningham than a Bad Interview, Talent and just being rather unintelligent in general( the chances of him absorbing a play book is not looking good) all my have had something to do with it. Doesn't detract from the Fact that if this is all true with Hardy, then thats a big bummer.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

Wellllll...let's not pretend that interview dropped him to the 3rd. That interview was an illustration of what dropped Manningham.

I know. I was just taking a cheap shot.I'm just getting reaaaaaalllly tired of the prima donna wide receiver position in general.

 

[mdog1967]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

Wellllll...let's not pretend that interview dropped him to the 3rd. That interview was an illustration of what dropped Manningham.

I know. I was just taking a cheap shot.I'm just getting reaaaaaalllly tired of the prima donna wide receiver position in general.

I agree with you on that point!

 

[Jason Wood]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

Wellllll...let's not pretend that interview dropped him to the 3rd. That interview was an illustration of what dropped Manningham.

I know. I was just taking a cheap shot.I'm just getting reaaaaaalllly tired of the prima donna wide receiver position in general.

Agreed!I guess I can take solace in that as an Eagles fan. Our WRs may not be studs, but they're not prima donnas. Yep, that's the ticket!

 

[Orgazmo]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

That didn't help him, but I thought it was because he lied at the combine about drug use.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

The source described Hardy to us as a “scary dude,” and said that the reports of Hardy striking a baby scared many teams away from him.

But not the Bills.

The magnitude of the pick is not the same, but as with Ryan Leaf when the Chargers apparently missed or ignored his personal issues that made teams question his character, it baffles me that a team could miss this info or deem it unimportant.

they didn't miss it. they just thought it was behind him.

HARDY NOT A CHARACTER RISK AS BILLS SEE IT: The Bills have done their due diligence on upwards of 500 players for the past 10 months and that includes Indiana WR James Hardy, who has a domestic incident and two-game team suspension in his college career. Said Hardy at the combine about his transgressions.

"As a young man I never had anyone to actually sit me down and tell me things I've done wrong, so I've learned from my mistakes," said Hardy. "I can honestly tell you as a man right here that I've made mistakes in the past and I've learned from them and they won't happen again in any other area I'm at. That's all I can do and just show them the actual person that I am. That's what coach Hep (Terry Hoeppner) talked about a lot. He told me to just show the world the type of man you are. That's all I can do."

The Bills don't believe Hardy to be a character risk.

“I think he had a rough upbringing," said Bills scout Tom Roth. "I don’t think he’s a bad kid at all. He just had a rough upbringing and that’s the way I see it. You can’t knock him for that. You have to give him some credit just for what he’s been through. I wouldn’t say he’s a character risk.”

http://buffalobills.com/blog/index.jsp?post_id=3364http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/332962.html

Hardy has risen from tough past

By Allen Wilson NEWS SPORTS REPORTER

Updated: 04/27/08 6:55 AM

The Buffalo Bills have made character an important quality when evaluating players.

At first glance, their second-round draft pick, Indiana wide receiver James Hardy, would seem to have character issues. He was charged with domestic battery in 2006 for allegedly attacking his girlfriend. The case was settled out of court. He also served a two-game suspension that season for reasons not related to the arrest.

But considering what Hardy overcame in his life, character is not a weakness.

His father, James Hardy Jr., spent nine years in prison for dealing drugs. Young Hardy lived with his mother until he was 13, and then began living with other relatives. As a high school freshman, his bed was an air mattress in the living room of a one-bedroom apartment shared with an uncle, who was fresh out of prison.

“I would just stay at school, in the gym or on the field so I wouldn’t have to go home,” Hardy said Saturday. “That’s what got me here and I’ll be able to go home to my own house and eat right and just be able to focus on being a professional. I take this very seriously. Besides my faith and family this is the most important thing to me. I just want to make everybody proud.”

Hardy has been very open about his arrest and he convinced the Bills that there was nothing to it.

“The issue he had was dismissed,” Bills Chief Operating Officer Russ Brandon said. “We talked to him about it, and we felt very comfortable with James Hardy.”

On the field, there is a lot to like. During a three-year career at Indiana that ended when he decided to forgo his senior season, Hardy set school career records with 191 receptions, 2,740 yards and 36 touchdowns. He has at least 10 TDs each season.

He came to Indiana as a heavily recruited basketball player from Elmhurst High School in Fort Wayne, Ind. Called a poor man’s LeBron James, Hardy was an all-state selection. He started three basketball games as a freshman at Indiana, but the late football coach Terry Hoeppner convinced him to give up hoops.

“He showed me some things on tape that he thought I could do on the football field and he said if I just focused on them that I could be a great receiver at the next level,” Hardy recalled. “When he told me that I knew there was no point to play basketball anymore and that football was my calling.”

The Bills are getting a big (6-foot-6, 217 pounds), athletic receiver with good hands and deceptive speed. They also got a guy who is hungry to rise above his humble beginnings.

“I feel that there’s nothing I can’t be prepared for now,” Hardy said. “God puts things in your life for a particular reason. It’s just up to you . . . to figure out how to handle them. I had a couple of bumps in the road, but I also had no one teaching me things. I had to learn a lot of things on my own.

“Now I’m a man and I admit to my mistakes and look at them in the eye, say that’s in the past and I’m moving forward. It’s a new beginning in Buffalo and we’re going to get off to a good start and we will get in that end zone.”

 

[Jason Wood]

I figured him for the top producing rookie WR

 

[redman]

they didn't miss it. they just thought it was behind him.

HARDY NOT A CHARACTER RISK AS BILLS SEE IT: The Bills have done their due diligence on upwards of 500 players for the past 10 months and that includes Indiana WR James Hardy, who has a domestic incident and two-game team suspension in his college career. Said Hardy at the combine about his transgressions.

"As a young man I never had anyone to actually sit me down and tell me things I've done wrong, so I've learned from my mistakes," said Hardy. "I can honestly tell you as a man right here that I've made mistakes in the past and I've learned from them and they won't happen again in any other area I'm at. That's all I can do and just show them the actual person that I am. That's what coach Hep (Terry Hoeppner) talked about a lot. He told me to just show the world the type of man you are. That's all I can do."

The Bills don't believe Hardy to be a character risk.

“I think he had a rough upbringing," said Bills scout Tom Roth. "I don’t think he’s a bad kid at all. He just had a rough upbringing and that’s the way I see it. You can’t knock him for that. You have to give him some credit just for what he’s been through. I wouldn’t say he’s a character risk.”

http://buffalobills.com/blog/index.jsp?post_id=3364

Fair enough, but how you can attribute a guy punching a baby or a woman with a baby to "never [having] anyone to actually sit me down and tell me things I've done wrong" seems like a reach, no? If it's a guy hanging out with the wrong crowd, punching a bouncer at 2 a.m., or getting caught with a joint, maybe you can say that stuff. Punching a woman with a baby? Who does this?

 

[brock]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

Wellllll...let's not pretend that interview dropped him to the 3rd. That interview was an illustration of what dropped Manningham.

pretty much every expectation with mario wasn't met.

 

[Todem]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

I think there was a Little More to Manningham than a Bad Interview, Talent and just being rather unintelligent in general( the chances of him absorbing a play book is not looking good) all my have had something to do with it. Doesn't detract from the Fact that if this is all true with Hardy, then thats a big bummer.

Mario will end up being a major steal for the Giants IMO. Major. Kid has all world talent and does not have the pressure of being pushed into a starting role this season so he has time to absorb the playbook and develop rapport with Eli this summer without worrying about starting. I am one who is very high on his natural abilities making the transition to the NFL level.

 

[redman]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

I think there was a Little More to Manningham than a Bad Interview, Talent and just being rather unintelligent in general( the chances of him absorbing a play book is not looking good) all my have had something to do with it. Doesn't detract from the Fact that if this is all true with Hardy, then thats a big bummer.

Mario will end up being a major steal for the Giants IMO. Major. Kid has all world talent and does not have the pressure of being pushed into a starting role this season so he has time to absorb the playbook and develop rapport with Eli this summer without worrying about starting. I am one who is very high on his natural abilities making the transition to the NFL level.

Enough with the Manningham talk, please. This isn't about the guy you drafted, it's about Hardy. TIA.

 

[Todem]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

:(

I think there was a Little More to Manningham than a Bad Interview, Talent and just being rather unintelligent in general( the chances of him absorbing a play book is not looking good) all my have had something to do with it. Doesn't detract from the Fact that if this is all true with Hardy, then thats a big bummer.

Mario will end up being a major steal for the Giants IMO. Major. Kid has all world talent and does not have the pressure of being pushed into a starting role this season so he has time to absorb the playbook and develop rapport with Eli this summer without worrying about starting. I am one who is very high on his natural abilities making the transition to the NFL level.

Enough with the Manningham talk, please. This isn't about the guy you drafted, it's about Hardy. TIA.

Sheesh...temper temper. This is a public message board is it not? I am merely responding to a post about Manningham.Threads do evolve into other discussions.

Relax jack life is good.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

I think there was a Little More to Manningham than a Bad Interview, Talent and just being rather unintelligent in general( the chances of him absorbing a play book is not looking good) all my have had something to do with it. Doesn't detract from the Fact that if this is all true with Hardy, then thats a big bummer.

Mario will end up being a major steal for the Giants IMO. Major. Kid has all world talent and does not have the pressure of being pushed into a starting role this season so he has time to absorb the playbook and develop rapport with Eli this summer without worrying about starting. I am one who is very high on his natural abilities making the transition to the NFL level.

Enough with the Manningham talk, please. This isn't about the guy you drafted, it's about Hardy. TIA.

calming down down?

 

[bcr8f]

Fair enough, but how you can attribute a guy punching a baby or a woman with a baby to "never [having] anyone to actually sit me down and tell me things I've done wrong" seems like a reach, no? If it's a guy hanging out with the wrong crowd, punching a bouncer at 2 a.m., or getting caught with a joint, maybe you can say that stuff. Punching a woman with a baby? Who does this?

People with anger problems so severe they lose control. The NFL really needs to get this guy into anger management classes as a first step. If he won't admit he has a problem his career is going to be very short imo.

 

[LBH]

I still think Hardy will be the most productive rookie WR in fantasy football this year. The news didnt change my opinion on that

 

[Beefeaters]

Does this news drop Hardy on your rookie draft boards at all?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Bills Speak With Hardy

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 5/13/2008 11:22 AM ET

The Buffalo Bills released a statement Tuesday in response to a published report in the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette that Bills second-round pick James Hardy was allegedly involved in a verbal altercation with his father last Sunday in which police were called to the scene.

The team statement confirmed that the Bills have spoken with Hardy about the alleged incident, in which Hardy was accused of brandishing a licensed firearm. The statement reads as follows.

“We have spoken to law enforcement officials and they have informed us that they looked into this and have no plans to pursue the matter any further. We also spoke to James last night and will continue to speak with him today, but indications are that this matter has been resolved.”

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?NEWS_ID=6074

 

[Jason Wood]

Bills Speak With Hardy

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 5/13/2008 11:22 AM ET

The Buffalo Bills released a statement Tuesday in response to a published report in the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette that Bills second-round pick James Hardy was allegedly involved in a verbal altercation with his father last Sunday in which police were called to the scene.

The team statement confirmed that the Bills have spoken with Hardy about the alleged incident, in which Hardy was accused of brandishing a licensed firearm. The statement reads as follows.

“We have spoken to law enforcement officials and they have informed us that they looked into this and have no plans to pursue the matter any further. We also spoke to James last night and will continue to speak with him today, but indications are that this matter has been resolved.”

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?NEWS_ID=6074

Raises a red flag for dynasty owners potentially, but doesn't do much to change my hopes for him in redraft leagues.

 

[Banger]

good negotiating leverage for the Bills....

 

[teamroc]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

I think there was a Little More to Manningham than a Bad Interview, Talent and just being rather unintelligent in general( the chances of him absorbing a play book is not looking good) all my have had something to do with it. Doesn't detract from the Fact that if this is all true with Hardy, then thats a big bummer.

Mario will end up being a major steal for the Giants IMO. Major. Kid has all world talent and does not have the pressure of being pushed into a starting role this season so he has time to absorb the playbook and develop rapport with Eli this summer without worrying about starting. I am one who is very high on his natural abilities making the transition to the NFL level.

Enough with the Manningham talk, please. This isn't about the guy you drafted, it's about Hardy. TIA.

Uhh, an Admin in this thread was discussing Mario. Maybe you should PM him? Or at least reply to the original person who brought it up. You should probably let the staff run the boards, seeing as, you know, it’s their job? Keep it to yourself, TIA.

 

[GroveDiesel]

good negotiating leverage for the Bills....

Yeah, if I'm the Bills, I'm making sure that his contract has lots of roster bonuses rather than a big fat signing bonus. I don't care that the "issue is resolved." He still 1) was carrying a gun with him and 2) had no problem pulling the gun out during a verbal altercation with a family member. I really just don't want to hear about James Hardy being at a club, getting into an altercation and getting into a gunfight. This guy is starting to sound like bad news. And I agree completely with Rudnicki, no way does he get drafted by the Bills if Levy was still around. Limas Sweed would probably be a Bill IMO.

 

[redman]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

I think there was a Little More to Manningham than a Bad Interview, Talent and just being rather unintelligent in general( the chances of him absorbing a play book is not looking good) all my have had something to do with it. Doesn't detract from the Fact that if this is all true with Hardy, then thats a big bummer.

Mario will end up being a major steal for the Giants IMO. Major. Kid has all world talent and does not have the pressure of being pushed into a starting role this season so he has time to absorb the playbook and develop rapport with Eli this summer without worrying about starting. I am one who is very high on his natural abilities making the transition to the NFL level.

Enough with the Manningham talk, please. This isn't about the guy you drafted, it's about Hardy. TIA.

Uhh, an Admin in this thread was discussing Mario. Maybe you should PM him? Or at least reply to the original person who brought it up. You should probably let the staff run the boards, seeing as, you know, it’s their job? Keep it to yourself, TIA.

We went from a one phrase mention of a bad interview that another player had to expounding on the other players' attributes. Stuff it. TIA.

 

[renesauz]

Bills Speak With Hardy

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 5/13/2008 11:22 AM ET

The Buffalo Bills released a statement Tuesday in response to a published report in the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette that Bills second-round pick James Hardy was allegedly involved in a verbal altercation with his father last Sunday in which police were called to the scene.

The team statement confirmed that the Bills have spoken with Hardy about the alleged incident, in which Hardy was accused of brandishing a licensed firearm. The statement reads as follows.

“We have spoken to law enforcement officials and they have informed us that they looked into this and have no plans to pursue the matter any further. We also spoke to James last night and will continue to speak with him today, but indications are that this matter has been resolved.”

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?NEWS_ID=6074

:fingers crossed:Hoping this report is accurate, as I just took him in a dynasty. Remembering also that his father spent years in the joint, and there is at least a chance there'd be a legit reason for Hardy to protect himself from a felon.

 

[OC Zed]

good negotiating leverage for the Bills....

Yeah, if I'm the Bills, I'm making sure that his contract has lots of roster bonuses rather than a big fat signing bonus. I don't care that the "issue is resolved." He still 1) was carrying a gun with him and 2) had no problem pulling the gun out during a verbal altercation with a family member.

I really just don't want to hear about James Hardy being at a club, getting into an altercation and getting into a gunfight. This guy is starting to sound like bad news.

And I agree completely with Rudnicki, no way does he get drafted by the Bills if Levy was still around. Limas Sweed would probably be a Bill IMO.

I don't think Sweed was ever seriously considered by Buffalo (at least in comparison to the other rookie WRs). There are still plenty of scouts and front office people at OBD negative on any Texas players after the Mike Williams debacle. I remembered Chris Brown talking about this last season...Given the Bills' track record for brining in "character guys", I am still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on Hardy. Afterall, their background check on him was far more extensive than the mere headlines that the fans have access to. But yes, this latest incident does not get himself off on the right foot in the NFL.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

good negotiating leverage for the Bills....

If there's a silver lining for the Bills, they now have some negotiating leverage and a guy who really needs to prove himself, all with no charges filed for the incident.

 

[Dope]

Bills Speak With Hardy

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 5/13/2008 11:22 AM ET

The Buffalo Bills released a statement Tuesday in response to a published report in the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette that Bills second-round pick James Hardy was allegedly involved in a verbal altercation with his father last Sunday in which police were called to the scene.

The team statement confirmed that the Bills have spoken with Hardy about the alleged incident, in which Hardy was accused of brandishing a licensed firearm. The statement reads as follows.

“We have spoken to law enforcement officials and they have informed us that they looked into this and have no plans to pursue the matter any further. We also spoke to James last night and will continue to speak with him today, but indications are that this matter has been resolved.”

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?NEWS_ID=6074

:fingers crossed:Hoping this report is accurate, as I just took him in a dynasty. Remembering also that his father spent years in the joint, and there is at least a chance there'd be a legit reason for Hardy to protect himself from a felon.

Exactly. People tend to take events and place themselves in similar situations. "I would never pull a gun on my dad."

Well, no duh. Your dad didn't just get out of jail after a 9 year stint.

But, you would pull a licensed firearm on an ex-con who threatened you (and may have been threatening you your entire life).

I know I would.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

I think there was a Little More to Manningham than a Bad Interview, Talent and just being rather unintelligent in general( the chances of him absorbing a play book is not looking good) all my have had something to do with it. Doesn't detract from the Fact that if this is all true with Hardy, then thats a big bummer.

Mario will end up being a major steal for the Giants IMO. Major. Kid has all world talent and does not have the pressure of being pushed into a starting role this season so he has time to absorb the playbook and develop rapport with Eli this summer without worrying about starting. I am one who is very high on his natural abilities making the transition to the NFL level.

Enough with the Manningham talk, please. This isn't about the guy you drafted, it's about Hardy. TIA.

Sheesh...temper temper. This is a public message board is it not? I am merely responding to a post about Manningham.Threads do evolve into other discussions.

Relax jack life is good.

When threads evolve into different discussions, it's called It makes it difficult for the rest of us trying to follow a thread if we have to weed through a bunch of excess crap. This thread hasn't gone there quite yet, but go check out the Winslow thread if you need an example.

 

[teamroc]

When threads evolve into different discussions, it's called It makes it difficult for the rest of us trying to follow a thread if we have to weed through a bunch of excess crap. This thread hasn't gone there quite yet, but go check out the Winslow thread if you need an example.

It was hardly a hijack. And it was an Admin bringing it up.Hardy HAD red flags. It was interesting he didn't fall. But Mario did, and it seems his red flags were not as bad.It's very germane to the discussion. We don't know Hardy, we weren't there, there's not much reported, so what else do you want to discuss? Lets lock and make it a sticky since 99% of the replies are just opinion without any real knowledge of the situation. In fact lets just disable posting totally, let Joe post articles, let us take it in, then we can move onto the next locked sticky thread.Hijack, lol. A rumor about Hardy, can't be hijacked. Discussing another rookie WR w/ flags is well within the scope of this thread. No one here knows him personally. No one knows his dad. No one has seen his gun. No one was there. Ohhhh lets all toss out random uninformed theories on Hardy. Phew, that would really keep the thread rolling. Every nut with a computer can come chime in “I love my Dad, I just don’t see how anyone would ever do this”. That’s great discussion. 99% people stuff out of their ###. Thanks forum cop.If you have problems following this thread, you should probably check out hooked on phonics.

 

[cstu]

I figured him for the top producing rookie WR

Producing arrest warrants.

 

[Steel Dillo]

I was all set to take him at 1.08 had I not traded the pick away.

I think this incident would have made me change my mind and I bet it pushes him down most dynasty league draft boards also.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Answer = Limas Sweed

 

[Spike]

Funny. Manningham gives a bad interview and he falls to the bottom of the 3rd whereas Hardy goes top 2nd.

Wellllll...let's not pretend that interview dropped him to the 3rd. That interview was an illustration of what dropped Manningham.

I know. I was just taking a cheap shot.I'm just getting reaaaaaalllly tired of the prima donna wide receiver position in general.

Agreed!I guess I can take solace in that as an Eagles fan. Our WRs may not be studs, but they're not prima donnas. Yep, that's the ticket!

Sig worthy?

 

[Tommy Collins]

Bills Speak With Hardy

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 5/13/2008 11:22 AM ET

The Buffalo Bills released a statement Tuesday in response to a published report in the Fort Wayne Journal Gazette that Bills second-round pick James Hardy was allegedly involved in a verbal altercation with his father last Sunday in which police were called to the scene.

The team statement confirmed that the Bills have spoken with Hardy about the alleged incident, in which Hardy was accused of brandishing a licensed firearm. The statement reads as follows.

“We have spoken to law enforcement officials and they have informed us that they looked into this and have no plans to pursue the matter any further. We also spoke to James last night and will continue to speak with him today, but indications are that this matter has been resolved.”

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?NEWS_ID=6074

:fingers crossed:Hoping this report is accurate, as I just took him in a dynasty. Remembering also that his father spent years in the joint, and there is at least a chance there'd be a legit reason for Hardy to protect himself from a felon.

Exactly. People tend to take events and place themselves in similar situations. "I would never pull a gun on my dad."

Well, no duh. Your dad didn't just get out of jail after a 9 year stint.

But, you would pull a licensed firearm on an ex-con who threatened you (and may have been threatening you your entire life).

I know I would.

I have a feeling that if Hardy took it this far, he had reason to. He's had a hard life, father being a con. For some reason I have a feeling that his father popped back up on the radar after Hardy was drafted. Looking for money? Attempting to damage his career? Who knows, but I doubt it was a little disagreement. Especially considering the his father's criminal history.

 

[Beefeaters]

Anyone else dropping Hardy on your draft boards because of this? It makes me nervous, but not sure if it should change his current Dynasty value. Looking for more opinions.

 

[The Man With No Name]

No charges were filed against him, but it is something to remember for the future. I drafted him with the #8 rookie pick.

 

[OC Zed]

Hardy speaks publicly about the incident with his father...

Link

Hardy Clears The Air

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 5/19/2008 1:43 PM ET

James Hardy wasn't shy about explaining the events concerning his much publicized altercation with his father on Mother's day weekend, as he came off the field following the Bills first OTA practice Monday.

"A woman came outside and believed something else was happening and it wasn't," said Hardy. "That's why my father didn't know what was going on and honestly I didn't know what was going on until later that evening. I called and let coach (Jauron) know and everybody know what definitely happened and it's definitely in the past right now."

According to published reports Hardy allegedly brandished a firearm during his argument based on a witness, but the Bills rookie wideout dismisses that claim.

"No gun was involved," said Hardy. "I don't know where she got that from. That's something that me and my father discussed. The only problem is I feel even if I'm at home and I feel I have to protect myself he actually convinced me to go get one, but there wasn't one at the time there."

Hardy quickly saw the negative perception the incident created about him publicly and it was troublesome to him that he could not rectify that perception.

"The only thing is I shouldn't have been there," Hardy admitted. "It sort of feels like every time I go home something negative, I'm always on the end of it. Now I'm in Buffalo and this is the best thing to happen to me since the birth of my son and I just want to get on the right track in Buffalo. This is something that will never happen again and nothing will ever be blown out of proportion again because I will never be in this situation."

As a result of this latest situation Hardy also made it sound as if he will not be spending as much time in his hometown of Fort Wayne, IN moving forward.

"A lot of guys from Fort Wayne they actually never come back and I never understood that growing up," said Hardy. "I felt being in this position I could change that, but it's bigger than me. I have an organization that I have to represent in the best way possible and I just can't put myself in these situations. And now I understand why they don't go back."

Hardy has apparently already made changes with respect to the people he keeps close to him. And he's is hopeful that will prevent any other potentially negative instances from surfacing.

"For the most part, I've never been the type of person to go out," he said. "I've never been the type of person to hang around the wrong crowd. Unfortunately when I go home I have to watch myself and I can't put myself in that type of positions. Family or no family I have to make my circle even smaller."

 

[GroveDiesel]

Hardy speaks publicly about the incident with his father...

Link

Hardy Clears The Air

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 5/19/2008 1:43 PM ET

James Hardy wasn't shy about explaining the events concerning his much publicized altercation with his father on Mother's day weekend, as he came off the field following the Bills first OTA practice Monday.

"A woman came outside and believed something else was happening and it wasn't," said Hardy. "That's why my father didn't know what was going on and honestly I didn't know what was going on until later that evening. I called and let coach (Jauron) know and everybody know what definitely happened and it's definitely in the past right now."

According to published reports Hardy allegedly brandished a firearm during his argument based on a witness, but the Bills rookie wideout dismisses that claim.

"No gun was involved," said Hardy. "I don't know where she got that from. That's something that me and my father discussed. The only problem is I feel even if I'm at home and I feel I have to protect myself he actually convinced me to go get one, but there wasn't one at the time there."

Hardy quickly saw the negative perception the incident created about him publicly and it was troublesome to him that he could not rectify that perception.

"The only thing is I shouldn't have been there," Hardy admitted. "It sort of feels like every time I go home something negative, I'm always on the end of it. Now I'm in Buffalo and this is the best thing to happen to me since the birth of my son and I just want to get on the right track in Buffalo. This is something that will never happen again and nothing will ever be blown out of proportion again because I will never be in this situation."

As a result of this latest situation Hardy also made it sound as if he will not be spending as much time in his hometown of Fort Wayne, IN moving forward.

"A lot of guys from Fort Wayne they actually never come back and I never understood that growing up," said Hardy. "I felt being in this position I could change that, but it's bigger than me. I have an organization that I have to represent in the best way possible and I just can't put myself in these situations. And now I understand why they don't go back."

Hardy has apparently already made changes with respect to the people he keeps close to him. And he's is hopeful that will prevent any other potentially negative instances from surfacing.

"For the most part, I've never been the type of person to go out," he said. "I've never been the type of person to hang around the wrong crowd. Unfortunately when I go home I have to watch myself and I can't put myself in that type of positions. Family or no family I have to make my circle even smaller."

Well, that sounds pretty good, but it's still possible that this is just the cover story. He had plenty of time to work one out. Hopefully he'll be just fine going forward. I'm willing to give him the chance to prove that he's not a bad guy and will be a fan until shown otherwise. But I think it's going to be a one straw type of deal.

 

[Max Power]

Three Bills players and a high-ranking team official have been subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury looking into the hit-and-run accident involving Marshawn Lynch's SUV.

They didn't release names, but the Buffalo News has reported that rookie WRs James Hardy and Steve Johnson and second-year offensive lineman Christian Gaddis were the three players. Ralph Wilson is also expected to be called to testify. Hardy has already pulled a gun on his father since getting drafted, so being involved with this is another unfortunate black mark.

This kid has been in the NFL for a little over a month and already has 2 "incidents"

I had him ranked high for dynasty purposes, at this point, I'll just stay away.

 

[pizzatyme]

Three Bills players and a high-ranking team official have been subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury looking into the hit-and-run accident involving Marshawn Lynch's SUV.They didn't release names, but the Buffalo News has reported that rookie WRs James Hardy and Steve Johnson and second-year offensive lineman Christian Gaddis were the three players. Ralph Wilson is also expected to be called to testify. Hardy has already pulled a gun on his father since getting drafted, so being involved with this is another unfortunate black mark.This kid has been in the NFL for a little over a month and already has 2 "incidents"I had him ranked high for dynasty purposes, at this point, I'll just stay away.

Jump to conclusions much? So does make the first black mark against Ralph Wilson?

 

[FightingWombat]

The only way I see this being a problem is if Hardy was driving. Being subpoenaed does not mean he did anything, just that he saw something or knows something.

 

[T Bell]

Agreed though about the last guy you'd want in this situation if you're the Bills is Hardy.